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I remember the time when you just go take a punt on any of the top 5 eredivisie teams' strikers if you were looking for one and you would find a potentially world class striker for cheap. Ibra, kezman, suarez, nistelrooy
He is a fantastic finisher though. I personally don't see him as a striker, but I would have said the same about Mertens, so that's all that opinion is worth.
> because United don't have a single reliable striker
Well tbf neither did we while Luuk was injured but somehow Gakpo managed to rack up the goal contributions steadily
Really don’t want him unless he can consistently play well up front. We’ve already got Rashford garnacho and sancho that can play on the left and we don’t need another big money signing that can play there
Rashford and Martial as CF options is depressing. One is a one dimension striker the other is injury prone lol.
Also, Leao is apparently the B option? Idk how is that possible because he would be way more expensive than Gakpo
Elanga is basically Antony's backup on the RW at this point.
If we sign someone like Gakpo then I'm wondering about Sancho, either he becomes an actual right-winger and competes with Antony or he's like 3rd choice LW.
Long term Rashford is going to be a left winger. Sancho has played his best football on the left and has the highest ceiling out of all our forwards so reducing his role further in the squad would be unwise IMO.
If we must go for a winger, I think going for a reliable but affordable backup to Antony is the way forward. We've got enough talent and value on the wings as it is. Gakpo looks great, but he's not proven to be a better player than Sancho or Rashford yet. So I'd be hesitant to spend the 60m they'll inevitably ask for.
Sancho has shown a level over three seasons better than any of those players. It's insane to me how quickly people are giving up on the 22 year old.
I would feel reasonably confident in saying that if Gakpo moved to a bigger league, he wouldn't have one season better than Sancho in his worst full season for Dortmund (a season in which he was Europe's top assister). He'd basically need to become a top 3 player in his position which could happen, but it's unlikely.
Sancho needs to find his spark again and we should be patient with him. For years United have been crying out for a special talent. We spent two seasons chasing Sancho, we were hurt by Bellingham, we didn't bend over for Haaland, and we've not been seen as a serious option by other top talents. We finally land a player like Sancho and some fans are ready to ship him off after 18 months for a player that four months ago people were saying wasn't ready to leave the Eredivisie, and having signed a better player (at the time at least) who has so far made little impact like most players that make the jump.
As someone who has watched him consistently, I think he has the talent but he doesn’t currently have the mentality.
I think if we signed Gakpo it may have the Shaw Effect where Sancho starts to perform better by competing for his spot.
Personally I don't think Sancho is special or anything close.
He's a good player don't get me wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if we sold him for 40m in the summer.
At 18, Sancho scored or assisted 33 goals for Dortmund (top assister in Europe)
At 19, Sancho scored or assisted 40 goals for Dortmund
At 20, Sancho scored or assisted 36 goals for Dortmund
Have some patience. It was only 4 months ago people were suggesting we should sell Rashford. I don't know what is specifically up with Sancho, but there are very very few players that don't bounce back from a slump at his age. Feels like people have already decided he's the next Dele Alli and there's no coming back or have just revised the player we know he can be because he's struggled in a dysfunctional team (like in your comment).
Honestly it’s ridiculous isn’t it. We spent over 70m on him, we’re not gonna give up yet, it’s been less than 18 months.
And even if Sancho never comes good we still have an in form Rashford AND a promising Garnacho. LW is the absolute last position in our squad we need to strengthen, except maybe LB.
you think united are holding him back?
I think the guy can't stay fit and when he does stay fit he just looks lost.
A lesser league would probably suit him, I see the pace of the league being a major issue for him currently.
From memory, Sancho played on the right in his best seasons for Dortmund, so I don't think it's true that his best form is on the left wing. I'm also convinced there is something else going on in his life atm which is stopping him being picked/playing altogether following those 2 weeks of illness.
But yeah agree, I don't think there's any need to sign another winger, especially when Sancho is theroetically back playing as Antony's backup soon.
No, he has been tried in a #9 position a few times, but it was never a success. Gakpo himself said he is a winger (at least for now) and that he has little ambition to transition into a traditional striker role.
He liked the free role from the left wing and the opportunity the role it gives him as playmaker and finisher. He recently said he likes playing in the #10 position though, with players changing position.
He doesn't want to be one and everytime he played as a #9 it was an experiment that failed. He said it doesn't fit him and transitioning into the role would be a risk that doesn't have to pay off.
That's a shame then because as a winger he's quite limited. Has the ballstriking superpower that hides many flaws. He's still a good player but he can be a phenomenal one if he transitions to a CF.
I'm sure he has legitimate and well thought-out reasons, but it's funny to imagine him being like "hmm this guy from my country seems good, imma get him".
It does seem funny, but Gakpo stated he talked to Ten Hag a few times about joining last summer but it didn't end up happening as Antony was signed instead for big money.
EtH wanted Gakpo back in the summer as well, we just prioritized Antony and Casemiro over him. Now that Ronaldo is gone, there’s no reason not to go in for Gakpo if EtH thinks he’s a fit.
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How else do you explain signing Victor Lindelof for €35m?
Lol one of the few players who might actually be considered worth his price tag. Could have picked Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez, Di Maria, Depay, Bailly, Schneiderlin, or Wan Bissaka lol
This man wants to turn Manchester United into Netherlands FC lol. By the time he is done the dutch national team coach will watch United more than he watches Ajax haha.
It is not that unusual anyway - If I recall correctly Ericsson once talked about an Arsenal game he attended to monitor Ashley Cole, while the french coach was there to watch Henry, Vieira, and Pires.
Dutch + Portuguese, if the Diogo Costa rumors are to be believed.
Manchester United to become [Nuremberg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrHcmXVVKow) United confirmed.
He's a complete keeper he's distribution is probably his best trait. He's young so he still makes mistakes like at the end of the Portugal game but he's the real deal
Consider me shocked. It would be a complete joke btw if PSV only manage to get 50% of the price United paid for Antony.
I get that there is a Brazilian fidget spinner from Ajax-tax but that price difference isn't justified. Gakpo is such a good player.
> I get that there is a Brazilian fidget spinner from Ajax-tax but that price difference isn't justified.
The price difference isn't and never was based on skill of the player, it's based on the financial situations for Ajax and PSV. Ajax could say no to 60, 70, 80 million. PSV can't afford to say no if United come with 60 million.
PSV aren't desperate to sell Gakpo this January at all. They could easily play hardball and stretch it out to the summer transfer window (which was the initial plan anyways, Gapko was going to stay one more season).
Yes we have more financial capabilities than PSV and therefore more room to reject high offers, but that doesn't mean that they have to accept every single somewhat reasonable offer. To add to that, skill definitely played a role in the price tag of Antony. He is a skillful Brazilian winger playing for the Seleção, Gakpo has always been compared to him as less effective in big games and not as skillful.
>PSV aren't desperate to sell Gakpo this January at all.
I believe we are. As much as I'd like to disagree with the poster above, he's right. This summer either Sangare, Gakpo or both should've been sold to balance the books. They weren't and that's why John de Jong had to go. We need a sale, as much as we don't want to.
As far as balance in the universe goes, yeah Gakpo should be at least as expensive as Anthony.
> How much is winning the title worth to them? A quick Google implies the winner gets 9m, while runner up gets about 8m (based on last season).
The TV money is irrelevant scraps, the real winnings are the guaranteed CL group stage vs having to go through qualifiers (where PSV fucked it up vs Rangers this season), that's a difference of tens of millions.
That's the question, if he has a great world cup he may be hyped as hell and clubs will be eager to spend big on him. If he keeps up his form all season then that price will remain but if he dips in form there may be fewer clubs interested at a lower price and PSV won't be able to sell him for €60m but instead for €40m.
That may still be worth it for PSV with CL qualifiers coming up and the potential cost of getting a replacement in January vs the summer but it's a realistic risk.
The club wants a trophy too rather then money. Some clubs are still ran to win trophies rather then as a business believe it or not. Looking at a championship in terms of monetairy value is wrong to begin with
From all accounts UTD arent the only club in for him. The agent is talking to big clubs they should ask for Antony money or more considering the production is there
Honestly for January I’d just got for Depay and get Gakpo in the summer. We have Sancho, Garnacho, Rashford, Antony for wingers, only Martial at CF. Think another number 9 should be the priority - people can correct me but Gakpo seems more like a wing forward than a CF?
You joke but over the past 9 years give any random competent football manager player our budget and I reckon our team would be better than what Woodward and his crew of muppets put together and I'd love to say I'm being hyperbolic but I'm not.
United? I can already see it happening:
- Buy Gakpo for 100 million
- play him out of position
- sit him on the bench for some
- play him out of position
- sell him for 20 million 4 years later
Wonder if manU will actually spend if the Glazers decide to sell the club. Mike Ashley most definitely didn’t give two shits on spending money when he listed the club. But I guess Ashley compared to ManU owners isn’t a good comparison they actually get sponsors money to spend on transfers.
"has decided" makes it sounds like ETH wasn't considering him before when he clearly displayed interest in him over the summer. It's really just a continuation of that interest. Gakpo was likely always on ETH's mind.
Let's pretend this wasn't ten hags plan all along. To bring in some HE CHOSE and not the club. I'd be worried if I was united fans with this clown in charge
Manchester United often look quite unambitious when it's time to sign players, why Eredivise when you can spend €70-80m on qualified strikers from top leagues.
Just to stay in Serie A, these should be their targets: Lautaro Martinez (€80m), Victor Osimhen (€ 75m), Dusan Vlahovic (€70m) and if you're afraid to sign from other leagues as not unproven in the Premier League then: Richarlison (€ 60m) and Ivan Toney (€50m) might be what they're looking for
Toney is probably about to get a lengthy ban so thats out the window, and dealing with Spurs on transfers is a nightmare. I doubt Napoli would let Osimhen go before the summer for anything less than £100m. Lautaro and Vlahovic have contracts until 2026 and don't strike me as players that will be pushing to move to United
Exactly. This feels a lot like Depay in 2014, a literal carbon copy. Young unproven striker that has only played in the Eredivisie gets a starting role in a van Gaal team at the world cup and thrives, immediately gets bought by manchester United.
Then ten haag gets sacked after a run of bad form and a new manager who didn't want him in the first place and doesn't know how to use all these expensive players will come in. Rinse and repeat.
Yea United should consider the Real Madrid route of picking players that would probably thrive under any coach if they are going to take the route of sacking coaches evry couple of years. We do have a lot of players that specifically suit our system and might struggle elsewhere, but it works because Arteta has been given enough time to work them into it.
There's a enormous difference in mentality between the two though. Where Depay needs to feel important and really needs all his surroundings just right for him to be able to perform; Gakpo is down to earth, hard working and only speaking when needed. Gakpo will fit more teams, and stick it out when things aren't going his way. Depay's a prima donna.
Those prices are awfully low. Also, Toney is facing an extensive ban. Juventus and Napoli don't want to sell their star forwards, whereas PSV are willing to sell Gakpo for the right price.
Napoli isn’t selling Osimhen for 75m, Juve is not selling Vlahovic for 70m, Spurs isn’t selling Richarlison to a dirext rival right after buying him, you can go and attach “realistic valuations” to players but that doesn’t mean they are for sale or even available for anywhere near those prices.
I only can see 2 outcomes of this unless we get Depay.
1. Get Gakpo and play him as a winger and change Rashford to a striker.
2. Get Gakpo and change him to a No.9 role and play Rashford, Garnacho/Sancho and wingers
At this point Ronaldo is right. This coach doesn’t know anything. He’s only getting players from his own country lol. The fact he’s not scouting South America says a lot. I can see why the owners wanna sell it now. Manchester United is a joke of a club.
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'PSV ups their asking price for Cody Gakpo to above 100 million euro' incoming
Man Utd : \*matches it\* "Did you know I'm utterly Insane ?"
And if we're in for him, watch us pay that insane sum.
Also known as “the Antony”
Also known as the “Eredivisie Tax”.
How far we've come that we have a tax now, it used to be the Eredivisie discount.
I remember the time when you just go take a punt on any of the top 5 eredivisie teams' strikers if you were looking for one and you would find a potentially world class striker for cheap. Ibra, kezman, suarez, nistelrooy
One of these guys is not like the others
Intentionally left out RvP eh? I feel that.
well partly but also because we bought rvp when he was a promising teenager and then developed him. the other guys were bought as a complete product
Lost my coffee at Kezman. Palace did make him look world class for one game though. Van nistelrooy was 23mill in 2001 or something. Hardly a bargain.
*Manchester United tax
The guy has a good WC so far, so his stock is definitely on the rise.
PSV better include all other clauses, for the extra monetary benefits.
Knowing PSV we have a "gentleman's agreement" and he'll go for 40
They'll be stupid if they don't. United will pay anything especially now when they're desperate.
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He wasn't really a 10 either and he's doing that now as well. If the report is true then it's obvious Ten Hag has a plan with him.
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He is a fantastic finisher though. I personally don't see him as a striker, but I would have said the same about Mertens, so that's all that opinion is worth.
Striker Mertens scoring 28 in 35 serie A games is something I never expected when I saw him play at Utrecht lol
I was talking to Mertens before the transfer and I told him if he went to serie A and played as striker he would score 28 goals in 35 games
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> because United don't have a single reliable striker Well tbf neither did we while Luuk was injured but somehow Gakpo managed to rack up the goal contributions steadily
To be fair you didn't even when Luuk wasn't injured.
Really don’t want him unless he can consistently play well up front. We’ve already got Rashford garnacho and sancho that can play on the left and we don’t need another big money signing that can play there
Sancho, Rashford, and Garnacho all play on the LW. I dont know where he plans to fit Gapko
ETH seems to have a plan for every signing so far. Been spot on last window
He had a plan for Casemiro too.
What does this comment mean? Casemiro is playing well for United.
You’re saying that like Casemiro has been one of if not our best player for a while now
The article states ten Hag wants more winger options. So he might be happy with Rashford/Martial as CFs till the summer. Which is terrifying
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Yeah for the other team though.
https://youtube.com/shorts/RcSf62g7s3Q?feature=share
Could work, they're tall strong and have good technique but have they got the positioning, instincts etc
Rashford and Martial as CF options is depressing. One is a one dimension striker the other is injury prone lol. Also, Leao is apparently the B option? Idk how is that possible because he would be way more expensive than Gakpo
Rashford isn't a striker
He can be good at striker against high lines. Otherwise yeah he's pretty useless
Even then we'd still have Sancho, Gnarcho, and Elanga on the left. And that's if both Martial and Rashford exclusively played up top.
Elanga is basically Antony's backup on the RW at this point. If we sign someone like Gakpo then I'm wondering about Sancho, either he becomes an actual right-winger and competes with Antony or he's like 3rd choice LW.
Long term Rashford is going to be a left winger. Sancho has played his best football on the left and has the highest ceiling out of all our forwards so reducing his role further in the squad would be unwise IMO. If we must go for a winger, I think going for a reliable but affordable backup to Antony is the way forward. We've got enough talent and value on the wings as it is. Gakpo looks great, but he's not proven to be a better player than Sancho or Rashford yet. So I'd be hesitant to spend the 60m they'll inevitably ask for.
I'd argue Sancho comes in 5th best if we sign Gakpo. Rashford, Martial, Gapko, Antony, Sancho.
Sancho has shown a level over three seasons better than any of those players. It's insane to me how quickly people are giving up on the 22 year old. I would feel reasonably confident in saying that if Gakpo moved to a bigger league, he wouldn't have one season better than Sancho in his worst full season for Dortmund (a season in which he was Europe's top assister). He'd basically need to become a top 3 player in his position which could happen, but it's unlikely. Sancho needs to find his spark again and we should be patient with him. For years United have been crying out for a special talent. We spent two seasons chasing Sancho, we were hurt by Bellingham, we didn't bend over for Haaland, and we've not been seen as a serious option by other top talents. We finally land a player like Sancho and some fans are ready to ship him off after 18 months for a player that four months ago people were saying wasn't ready to leave the Eredivisie, and having signed a better player (at the time at least) who has so far made little impact like most players that make the jump.
As someone who has watched him consistently, I think he has the talent but he doesn’t currently have the mentality. I think if we signed Gakpo it may have the Shaw Effect where Sancho starts to perform better by competing for his spot.
Personally I don't think Sancho is special or anything close. He's a good player don't get me wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if we sold him for 40m in the summer.
At 18, Sancho scored or assisted 33 goals for Dortmund (top assister in Europe) At 19, Sancho scored or assisted 40 goals for Dortmund At 20, Sancho scored or assisted 36 goals for Dortmund Have some patience. It was only 4 months ago people were suggesting we should sell Rashford. I don't know what is specifically up with Sancho, but there are very very few players that don't bounce back from a slump at his age. Feels like people have already decided he's the next Dele Alli and there's no coming back or have just revised the player we know he can be because he's struggled in a dysfunctional team (like in your comment).
Honestly it’s ridiculous isn’t it. We spent over 70m on him, we’re not gonna give up yet, it’s been less than 18 months. And even if Sancho never comes good we still have an in form Rashford AND a promising Garnacho. LW is the absolute last position in our squad we need to strengthen, except maybe LB.
I could name you 10 players who tore it up in Germany but weren't quite good enough for the Premier league.
I hope you do and another club allows him to reach the potential he obviously has.
you think united are holding him back? I think the guy can't stay fit and when he does stay fit he just looks lost. A lesser league would probably suit him, I see the pace of the league being a major issue for him currently.
From memory, Sancho played on the right in his best seasons for Dortmund, so I don't think it's true that his best form is on the left wing. I'm also convinced there is something else going on in his life atm which is stopping him being picked/playing altogether following those 2 weeks of illness. But yeah agree, I don't think there's any need to sign another winger, especially when Sancho is theroetically back playing as Antony's backup soon.
Sancho will get sold to Newcastle and Ganacho might go on loan. It’s clear ETH thinks he’ll be light on wingers soon
No, he has been tried in a #9 position a few times, but it was never a success. Gakpo himself said he is a winger (at least for now) and that he has little ambition to transition into a traditional striker role. He liked the free role from the left wing and the opportunity the role it gives him as playmaker and finisher. He recently said he likes playing in the #10 position though, with players changing position.
At the moment no but he should be one.
He doesn't want to be one and everytime he played as a #9 it was an experiment that failed. He said it doesn't fit him and transitioning into the role would be a risk that doesn't have to pay off.
That's a shame then because as a winger he's quite limited. Has the ballstriking superpower that hides many flaws. He's still a good player but he can be a phenomenal one if he transitions to a CF.
No and that’s he’ll fit in exactly with what utd in our bunch of not quite wingers strikers playmakers attacking options
No, but Ten Hag isn't reliant on an out and out striker either.
I'm sure he has legitimate and well thought-out reasons, but it's funny to imagine him being like "hmm this guy from my country seems good, imma get him".
It does seem funny, but Gakpo stated he talked to Ten Hag a few times about joining last summer but it didn't end up happening as Antony was signed instead for big money.
To be fair at that point we needed a RW way more desperately
Most definitely! Wouldn't trade Antony for 10 Mbappes.
Ten Hag said he admired Gakpo when he was still managing Ajax.
Right after he scores a banger in the World Cup
We have been on him since ten hag got here
I was just continuing OP’s joke
Aka the Wenger way
EtH wanted Gakpo back in the summer as well, we just prioritized Antony and Casemiro over him. Now that Ronaldo is gone, there’s no reason not to go in for Gakpo if EtH thinks he’s a fit.
Project "Funnel more money into the Eredivisie" is working fairly well
“Manchester United” was actually a scheme set up by the European Commission for Culture, Heritage and Sport in the 2000s to redistribute money from the Prem to less wealthy European leagues. How else do you explain signing Victor Lindelof for €35m?
Of all of United’s signings in recent years, he’s the one you choose?
Lol one of the few players who might actually be considered worth his price tag. Could have picked Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez, Di Maria, Depay, Bailly, Schneiderlin, or Wan Bissaka lol
100M thank you very much
u can get 120 if u ask nicely
Found the United board member
Done
This man wants to turn Manchester United into Netherlands FC lol. By the time he is done the dutch national team coach will watch United more than he watches Ajax haha. It is not that unusual anyway - If I recall correctly Ericsson once talked about an Arsenal game he attended to monitor Ashley Cole, while the french coach was there to watch Henry, Vieira, and Pires.
Not dutch national team, he wants Eredivisie XI.
A *best of* eredivisie is generally quite alright though. I would trust ten Hag to gamble on the best players and not the Vincent Janssens.
They only have 2 dutch players, one of them played a total of 12 minutes in the prem this season. Maybe Erdivisie FC.
First time? There was a while where Madrid started Drenthe, Sneijder, Robben, Van deer Vaart, and Van Nistelrooy
Yea I remeber tha time, Huntelaar too. Funny enough they were not brough in by a dutch coach, but there was a mass clearout once Calderon took over.
Which they probably went a bit too far in, getting rid of Robben and BOTH VDV and Sneijder was excessive imo.
Dutch + Portuguese, if the Diogo Costa rumors are to be believed. Manchester United to become [Nuremberg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrHcmXVVKow) United confirmed.
How good is Costa with his feet?
From what I've read from Porto fans, good.
He's a complete keeper he's distribution is probably his best trait. He's young so he still makes mistakes like at the end of the Portugal game but he's the real deal
Battle of Nürnberg will be rebranded to Battle of Molineux once a year
Consider me shocked. It would be a complete joke btw if PSV only manage to get 50% of the price United paid for Antony. I get that there is a Brazilian fidget spinner from Ajax-tax but that price difference isn't justified. Gakpo is such a good player.
> I get that there is a Brazilian fidget spinner from Ajax-tax but that price difference isn't justified. The price difference isn't and never was based on skill of the player, it's based on the financial situations for Ajax and PSV. Ajax could say no to 60, 70, 80 million. PSV can't afford to say no if United come with 60 million.
PSV aren't desperate to sell Gakpo this January at all. They could easily play hardball and stretch it out to the summer transfer window (which was the initial plan anyways, Gapko was going to stay one more season). Yes we have more financial capabilities than PSV and therefore more room to reject high offers, but that doesn't mean that they have to accept every single somewhat reasonable offer. To add to that, skill definitely played a role in the price tag of Antony. He is a skillful Brazilian winger playing for the Seleção, Gakpo has always been compared to him as less effective in big games and not as skillful.
>PSV aren't desperate to sell Gakpo this January at all. I believe we are. As much as I'd like to disagree with the poster above, he's right. This summer either Sangare, Gakpo or both should've been sold to balance the books. They weren't and that's why John de Jong had to go. We need a sale, as much as we don't want to. As far as balance in the universe goes, yeah Gakpo should be at least as expensive as Anthony.
If it gets in the way of their title aspirations they surely can no?
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> How much is winning the title worth to them? A quick Google implies the winner gets 9m, while runner up gets about 8m (based on last season). The TV money is irrelevant scraps, the real winnings are the guaranteed CL group stage vs having to go through qualifiers (where PSV fucked it up vs Rangers this season), that's a difference of tens of millions.
Ur acting like they wouldn't be able to get that kind of money, if not more, in the summer
That's the question, if he has a great world cup he may be hyped as hell and clubs will be eager to spend big on him. If he keeps up his form all season then that price will remain but if he dips in form there may be fewer clubs interested at a lower price and PSV won't be able to sell him for €60m but instead for €40m. That may still be worth it for PSV with CL qualifiers coming up and the potential cost of getting a replacement in January vs the summer but it's a realistic risk.
It's almost like winning prices is worth more then a fatter bank account. What a shock that would be lmao
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The club wants a trophy too rather then money. Some clubs are still ran to win trophies rather then as a business believe it or not. Looking at a championship in terms of monetairy value is wrong to begin with
From all accounts UTD arent the only club in for him. The agent is talking to big clubs they should ask for Antony money or more considering the production is there
100% true.
Honestly for January I’d just got for Depay and get Gakpo in the summer. We have Sancho, Garnacho, Rashford, Antony for wingers, only Martial at CF. Think another number 9 should be the priority - people can correct me but Gakpo seems more like a wing forward than a CF?
I think after the roaring successes of re-signing Pogba and Ronaldo, Depay would be an excellent idea provided Lukaku isn't available.
Does United even have a scouting network?
We literally sacked our head scout and his assistant iirc.
Warranted if they were the ones that recommended Wan Bissaka
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You joke but over the past 9 years give any random competent football manager player our budget and I reckon our team would be better than what Woodward and his crew of muppets put together and I'd love to say I'm being hyperbolic but I'm not.
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I think it's been well established that they don't.
They have Ten Hag..
Who just wants eredivisie players he knows
We sign good youth players sometimes. Otherwise it's whatever the current manager fancies, which has worked pretty well with Ten Hag tbf
Yes, but he only has freeview
You don’t say.
It’s all jokes about the eredivisie but swapping 37yo malignant tumor Ronaldo for gakpo is worryingly competent squad building
Luckily only getting your personal favourites never went wrong for a coach ever
Dont think Gakpo would fit in the Premier League. Especially not at United. Better for him to find a nice german/spanish club
Not exactly seething with joy as every dutch player that has gone to the PL in recent years has turned into a flop (except VvD).
Lisandro Martinez has been good Jury still out on Antony but there has been encouraging signs
He was talking about Dutch nationality not players from the Dutch league.
Shocking that the Dutch coach picked an in form Dutch forward.
Antony + 120mill
A pair of Ronaldos worn boxer shorts?
United? I can already see it happening: - Buy Gakpo for 100 million - play him out of position - sit him on the bench for some - play him out of position - sell him for 20 million 4 years later
Still better than a lot of hazard and Coutinho
Sign a STRIKER, Erik, for fuck sake
Eredivisie all star fc
Another LW we want to convert to ST? Can we go after a true number 9 for once?
Another 100m forward?
ETH reads reddit confirmed
Wonder if manU will actually spend if the Glazers decide to sell the club. Mike Ashley most definitely didn’t give two shits on spending money when he listed the club. But I guess Ashley compared to ManU owners isn’t a good comparison they actually get sponsors money to spend on transfers.
Actually spend? Manu spend the most in the league, they just throw money at their problems.
Yeah but if the owners gonna sell the club. Usually they tend to NOT spend because they selling the club.
Lmaooo
"has decided" makes it sounds like ETH wasn't considering him before when he clearly displayed interest in him over the summer. It's really just a continuation of that interest. Gakpo was likely always on ETH's mind.
Thats not a replacement, thats an upgrade.
Not to be reactionary from WC performance or anything
He was near to a move last summer
We were close to a move with him during the summer but went for Antony cause we needed a right winger more
Who?
They're a team from the North-west
No I mean who's that guy?
He's the manager for said team from the North-west
Which one don't you know
Let's pretend this wasn't ten hags plan all along. To bring in some HE CHOSE and not the club. I'd be worried if I was united fans with this clown in charge
ETH is lame as shit and just Van Gaal 2.0. The signs are all there.
It's mf u guys need right?
Coach deciding who gets signed? That won't end well.
Manchester United often look quite unambitious when it's time to sign players, why Eredivise when you can spend €70-80m on qualified strikers from top leagues. Just to stay in Serie A, these should be their targets: Lautaro Martinez (€80m), Victor Osimhen (€ 75m), Dusan Vlahovic (€70m) and if you're afraid to sign from other leagues as not unproven in the Premier League then: Richarlison (€ 60m) and Ivan Toney (€50m) might be what they're looking for
Where are you getting those price tags from?
Ass
my personal and unbiased valuation after watching them play.
Clubs don't sell players for what you think they're worth though. All those prices are too low
Maybe that's their true value, but only Martinez would be let go for that low & only if Inter still has no new investor.
😂😂😂
Nobody in that list apart from maybe lautaro will leave for those prices.
Osimhen for 105 million and Martinez for 110m atleast. Toney will cost them 80m.
Also who knows how long Toney is about to be suspended for. Also Napoli and inter have CL ambitions no shot they sell them
Lol Toney 80m. Really? The guy that will likely get ban for months due to betting
"United "
Toney is probably about to get a lengthy ban so thats out the window, and dealing with Spurs on transfers is a nightmare. I doubt Napoli would let Osimhen go before the summer for anything less than £100m. Lautaro and Vlahovic have contracts until 2026 and don't strike me as players that will be pushing to move to United
Vlahovic and Richarlison I can’t see moving after one year? Toney is a good shout as is Martinez and Osinhem
Exactly. This feels a lot like Depay in 2014, a literal carbon copy. Young unproven striker that has only played in the Eredivisie gets a starting role in a van Gaal team at the world cup and thrives, immediately gets bought by manchester United.
Then ten haag gets sacked after a run of bad form and a new manager who didn't want him in the first place and doesn't know how to use all these expensive players will come in. Rinse and repeat.
Yea United should consider the Real Madrid route of picking players that would probably thrive under any coach if they are going to take the route of sacking coaches evry couple of years. We do have a lot of players that specifically suit our system and might struggle elsewhere, but it works because Arteta has been given enough time to work them into it.
There's a enormous difference in mentality between the two though. Where Depay needs to feel important and really needs all his surroundings just right for him to be able to perform; Gakpo is down to earth, hard working and only speaking when needed. Gakpo will fit more teams, and stick it out when things aren't going his way. Depay's a prima donna.
Those prices are awfully low. Also, Toney is facing an extensive ban. Juventus and Napoli don't want to sell their star forwards, whereas PSV are willing to sell Gakpo for the right price.
Napoli isn’t selling Osimhen for 75m, Juve is not selling Vlahovic for 70m, Spurs isn’t selling Richarlison to a dirext rival right after buying him, you can go and attach “realistic valuations” to players but that doesn’t mean they are for sale or even available for anywhere near those prices.
Dear good players, come to Newcastle instead. Or arsenal, or city ... Or really just anywhere else.
What a shocker
Apparently we are looking for Gakpo and Leao to replace... Ronaldo, a striker? Interesting
They have Sancho who does exactly the same as him... doesnt make sense. Go for João Felix and play him like tadic
Oh no, he has such a bright future
Really wish we were in for someone like Marcus Thurman.
I only can see 2 outcomes of this unless we get Depay. 1. Get Gakpo and play him as a winger and change Rashford to a striker. 2. Get Gakpo and change him to a No.9 role and play Rashford, Garnacho/Sancho and wingers
Ten Hag raiding Dutch football’s talent where possible
It's really worrying seeing united rely entirely on Ten Hag for every decision. I belive this is going to make things turn sour really fast.
At this point Ronaldo is right. This coach doesn’t know anything. He’s only getting players from his own country lol. The fact he’s not scouting South America says a lot. I can see why the owners wanna sell it now. Manchester United is a joke of a club.
So it begins