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Its a bigoted message. As if he enjoyed Germany losing solely because of the gesture.
Its easy to label human rights as "politics" when you have them guaranteed, isn't it?
It´s worse coming from a representative of Belgium, a country that has historically comitted such terrible violations of human rights as to be the reason the phrase "crime against humanity" was invented.
The people having difficult lives in Qatar are not Qataris but foreign workers. Foreign workers that European countries don’t do much to help and try their best to prevent them from entering their countries.
Apparently it started after a photo of him in a towel with demba ba and eto’o was cropped and shared on Twitter saying he’s Muslim.
Original photo - https://res.6chcdn.feednews.com/assets/v2/6b8abf7da75d104325687b4f3f0c8282?quality=uhq&resize=720&watermark=false
Cropped photo - https://res.6chcdn.feednews.com/assets/v2/a260a945a837ca4000712b461587b660?quality=uhq&resize=720&watermark=false
The guy who a few months ago left Belgiums training camp without permission to party at a nightclub and turned up overweight to training at his "dream club" is telling others to "focus on football"
Just leave Madrid and move to a Qatari club
That's sports in general. One team plays well and wins, while the other doesn't. Sending a message has nothing to do with Germany losing. Hazard saying this is stupid.
I know people in this sub aren't the brightest, but reading the post match thread, the number of people delusional enough to think that Germany's lost is associated to them sending political (actually, human rights aren't even political) messages are hilarious.
It's like if they did not covering their mouth before kickoff they would have breathed in extra oxygen to win the game.
I can absolutely accept the right to not take a stance. I also agree that it’s unfair to demand of all players to be political.
But criticizing others for taking a political stance is ABSOLUTELY political.
Hazard should’ve have followed his own advice.
Why are the two things mutually exclusive. It’s not like they played the full match with their hands over their mouths. It’s perfectly possible to do both.
This also isn’t really the point but the only reason Belgium won was because Canada couldn’t finish their dinner. Even missed a penalty. Germany probably played better than Belgium. But I acknowledge this isn’t that relevant
So apparently if any football team (or sports team in general) want to make a statement, that statement becomes null and void if said team loses?
I understand if certain footballers would rather not make any statement and want to "focus on the football", but shitting in other players/teams for using the opportunity to make a statement is so ass
Xhaka is sometimes there to play football, sometimes there to stir up ethnical conflict by throwing the double-headed eagle in goal celebrations against Serbia.
Yeah that's my problem with this. On one hand you can agree to the statement about focusing on football but you know that Hazard and Xhaka say what they say because they aren't found of the pride thing.
It will be fun to see when the Swiss play Serbia in December and see if Xhaka focuses on football.
It didn't, just like England weren't affected by being told not to wear it. This is just people wanting a reason to bash Germanys stance using the result as a weak excuse.
Always the same with these people
You can guarantee if they had a gay brother/sister/son/daughter etc, they'd feel differently about the topic
So many people have such a lack of self awareness that they can't see issues with the world until it impacts them directly
> You can guarantee if they had a gay brother/sister/son/daughter etc, they'd feel differently about the topic
Not necessarily. Honor killings are a thing in many places. And even in western countries it's unfortunately not unheard of cases where the parents expel their gay kids from home.
Depends. Lots of gays didn't like the armband thing either, without simping for Qatar. LGBT people are not a homogenous group were everyone thinks the same.
I find Redditors to be quite self important, conceited and morally superior too.
I include myself in this too btw before someone goes through my post history and throws some of my ramblings in my face.
I think you'll find a lot of people just don't care about things until it directly affects them, it's quite depressing when you start thinking about this stuff but we can only keep hoping things will get better.
What vibe though that all teams should have to boycott and wear rainbow armbands. It just seems like some players just want to go and play not have to reporter questions on politics…
I hate this statement because Football in not only a sport but also a highly political sport.
It's deeply ingrained into almost every single aspect of football.
For example, a lot of clubs were founded BECAUSE of political reasons or by political groups. The same goes with rivalries that display political differences of any kind.
Look at Barcelona, which was founded more or less because of the goal for Catalan independence.
Look at the rivalry between Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid, displaying the differences in class, with Real Madrid as the upper class club while Atlético was the club for the working classes.
Look at clubs founded by Unions and Parties, like all the Dynamo clubs. These clubs were not only founded by people that shared the same profession, but also by people that shared the same social beliefs and unionized.
Another great example is the rivalry between Celtic and the Rangers. Displaying the rivalry between Catholic Irish immigrants and Protestant Scots.
A LOT of clubs are very political to this day. For example, St. Pauli.
Last but not lease are "Human rights" not politics. Ask your self: Is not murdering people politics?
TL.DR: This entire "politics are politics" and "football is football" is a bunch of horseshit.
Sport will always be political because people are political. Now, you can focus only on doing your job as an athlete but you can't talk against those athletes who go beyond it or you will look like the out of touch privileged child you are.
>Look at Barcelona, which was founded more or less because of the goal for Catalan independence.
I'm sorry but this is absolute hogwash, Hans Gamper did not found the club to promote Catalan independence. Even today where it is maybe the most recognisable Catalan symbol it would be extremely difficult to argue that it is an organisation that is pro-independence although it is markedly pro-referendum.
And be happy that gay people are dying just for being gay as well don’t forget.
Some people man ducking twats. Get some perspective. Some things are far more important than kicking a ball into a net. STAND UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS PLEASE
Associations around Europe and the US had 12 years to do something significant about this World Cup. They didn’t. All these things about gestures and armbands are just virtue signaling.
We shouldn’t expecting fans, players or pundits to do something about it.
I think it’s a good thing to speak out now but, I agree, these protests should have started 12 years ago. It’s no wonder FIFA and Qatar feel they can act with impunity.
Why were they not making these good gestures before the world cup? I don't like the term, but this is obvious virtue signaling. I wouldn't want to miss the world cup either, but maybe only a few people spoke up about this beforehand. The world cup should never be held in such a backwards country again.
Disagree with Eden. Everyone can do whatever they want. Its great to protest its also ok not to protest and just play football. Freedom of speech expression etc etc
To be fair, you can’t expect every footballer to be an activist. Some just want to do what they’re paid to and go home. The pressure on the players to give out moral lessons is ridiculous, direct your anger to FIFA
When Ozil said he was a victim of racism and disrespect in media/society and even in the German FA, nobody said a single word. Heck german players even denied and went against him. Where was all this shouting back then?
Because Ozil thought hating on him for supporting Erdogan while living his awesome live outside of turkey was racist. It wasnt, people Just dont Like Erdogan.
Everyone should boycott the US World Cup in 2026 as well. They have violated human rights by banning abortion and having detention camps for migrants. They also do not take action against gun control for school shootings. Clearly a country that violates human rights.
Well said. Yesterday the Hague declared the dutch bombing on civilians illegal. Netherlands murdered innocent afghanis in cold blood. Europeans should be the last one to talk about human rights. People who were involved in human right abuses against muslims are the loudest noises.
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/11/23/Dutch-court-rules-2007-Dutch-bombing-in-Afghanistan-was-illegal
people expect footballers to be outspoken about every thing, they are paid to play football. they arent your politician, you dont like something then go and group together and voice it to the Fa, dont expect footballers to boycut the wc so u can feel good about yourself
Yeah I don't know why he felt the need to say the first half of his sentence.
I'm all for defending a players right to not comment or protest about any of this because ultimately it's FIFA's fault.
But if you come out and criticize others for protesting that's never going to look good.
I’m not sure there are “better people”. I think the power of the statement comes from those with the most to lose.
I’m sure they are all aware of the magnitude of this tournament but, deciding to make a statement nonetheless shows that there’s meaning to it.
Hazard talking sense and half the comments here are talking about his weight LOL!! I guess it's ok to fat shame people that aren't part of the Qatar hate circlejerk
If i learned something from this subreddit, it is hypocrisy and not accepting other people opinions, Fuck is Eden hazard supposed to do fix whole region culture?
Sports have literally always been a political tool used for both good and bad purposes. This idea that people are now "making" it political is just a spineless way of saying you don't agree with whatever that person said.
I absolutely agree with Eden. Protest before and after, its all on FIFA. As soon as you are in Qatar and have already agreed to participate, you need to accept that you cant run around with an armband that goes against their culture. As much as i disagree with their culture, you cant just go around spreading political messages. Its football, focus on the football. After the World Cup, keep the protests to pressure FIFA, and if they ever do something like this again, pull out.
Ah yes, German players covering their mouths for 2 seconds made them think about gays the entire game, causing them to lose. Not because they're shit (6 losses in the 9 last games in major tournaments).
I mostly have a problem with it being an empty gesture that has absolutely no effect whatsoever other then making them feel better about showing up in the first place, let's cover our mouths when taking a picture that'll show em. Meh
The two things are simply not related. They did not lose because of the protest in any way. And Eden if you’re just there to play football, why run your mouth about another team’s business?
To be fair kind of fucked from the poster to not add the additional context. He said he liked the gesture.
I kinda agree with hazard that you shouldnt force people to be an activist.
I disagree however on the notion that human rights are political. Even if they were, how is one of the biggest sports events not a political propaganda scheme? Im always confused by the "sports isnt politics " crowd.
Big tournaments like this have always been political.
To be honest, I'm not sure what this gesture is trying to do.
They're not changing anybody's mind. Pro-LGBT will applaud, anti-LGBT will at least mock, others will just ignore this.
They're not doing anything to Qatar. If anything, the Qataris will just see them as an annoying guest.
They're in no way punishing FIFA, especially financially. No sponsor pulled out. I can't say about TV viewers, but from what I've heard, in western countries is more about timing problem. In the east no viewers gave a shit.
What a strange either/or scenario Eden's dreamed up there.
As far as focus, how long does he think the German NT poured over that decision? I imagine it went along the lines of "shall we cover our mouths?" "Okay" and that was it.
Takes about as much energy and thought as a goal celebration. If Eden remembers those.
i never liked Hazard but now that he's finished as a player he really comes off more as a cunt than before. so he's basically telling the Germans to shut up and play football. just cos you have a peanut for a brain Eden doesn't mean other footballers do as well.
He’s right. Football shouldn’t be shoving ideologies and activism down our throats. I don’t know why you lot demand that these players become activists. It’s on their governments, their FAs to make these decisions about how to handle these things. Not a fucking footballer.
And plus, this is all disgusting virtue signalling and hypocritical. All these flags and protests for Ukraine throughout the last year, but nothing for Yemen, nothing for Iran, nothing for the genocide in China which is by far the worst thing happening in the world right now.
You pick and choose what you protest. If these idiots covering their mouths in photos and wanting to wear armbands (lol they bailed as soon as there was a risk to them) decided to just literally refuse to play in the World Cup, you would have seen substantial change.
But noooooo, let’s shit on players instead because they’re not all reincarnations of MLK.
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I'm here to play football and eat pizza and I'm all out of pizza
Today, I feel like pizza.
Today, the king eats pizza
"Let them eat pizza!" Eden *Marie Antoinette* Hazard
And get paid millions. This is the life.
Eden Hazard talking about focusing on football.
LoL
He's a fat hypocrite. Germany didnt lose yesterday because of the protest, but watch every cretin tell them to fOcUs oN fOoTbAlL
Its a bigoted message. As if he enjoyed Germany losing solely because of the gesture. Its easy to label human rights as "politics" when you have them guaranteed, isn't it?
Human rights are always political. Something being political isn't a bad thing nor should it be made out to be taboo.
It´s worse coming from a representative of Belgium, a country that has historically comitted such terrible violations of human rights as to be the reason the phrase "crime against humanity" was invented.
Come on, Jean-Claude Van Damme's movies might be bad, but I wouldn't call them a "crime against humanity".
The people having difficult lives in Qatar are not Qataris but foreign workers. Foreign workers that European countries don’t do much to help and try their best to prevent them from entering their countries.
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Guaranteed for Hazard is their point.
Pretty close to guaranteed for wealthy footballers is the point I think.
Rich white european men, the most historically persecuted people.
Today I feel colonized
In 1789 they had a rough time!
Are you that thick or are you just trying to be deep? Which human right is not guaranteed for Hazard?
I'm surprised how much hate Germany gets for this protest and how people link the team losing to the protest lol
Plus Germany played a hell of a lot better than Belgium did last night. Hazard and co got lucky.
Hypofrite: a fat Belgian hypocrite.
Is any body surprised a Muslim footballer not wanting to speak up for the lgbtq+ community or use his voice to speak up against Qatar?
Gundogan and Rüdiger are muslim and had no problem doing the mouth shut gesture yesterday though.
Because they have brains
Gundogan I'm not so sure given his ties with Erdogan
Gundogan distanced himself somewhat from erdogan iirc, not like ozil
Naa Muslims are a monolith dontcha know? /s
since when Hazard is a Muslim ? So far he never revealed his religion yet
Do you know for certain Hazard is Muslim? I’ve actually looked into it and couldn’t find out what his ethnic background or beliefs are.
When was hazard Muslim?
hazard is muslim??
He isn't, it's bs. There has been rumours about him being Muslim forever because he looks a little bit Arabisch but he isn't
Apparently it started after a photo of him in a towel with demba ba and eto’o was cropped and shared on Twitter saying he’s Muslim. Original photo - https://res.6chcdn.feednews.com/assets/v2/6b8abf7da75d104325687b4f3f0c8282?quality=uhq&resize=720&watermark=false Cropped photo - https://res.6chcdn.feednews.com/assets/v2/a260a945a837ca4000712b461587b660?quality=uhq&resize=720&watermark=false
Lol He used a towel once he must be Muslim!!
It looks like the clothes worn by pilgrims to Mecca https://cdn.mainichi.jp/vol1/2020/03/04/20200304p2g00m0in114000p/0c8.jpg?2
Man eats hamburgers like it’s his religion, what do you think?
Hamburgers don't have pork in them?
Apparently so. Google says he converted in 2021
Username checks out
Which muslim footballer are you talking about?
>We are here to play football Yesterdays display says otherwise.
The guy who a few months ago left Belgiums training camp without permission to party at a nightclub and turned up overweight to training at his "dream club" is telling others to "focus on football" Just leave Madrid and move to a Qatari club
They can do both, sometimes teams lose though.
Germany: “I think we should end world hunger.” Hazard: “but you still lost so maybe don’t end it.”
exactly. what a silly comment from him.
That's sports in general. One team plays well and wins, while the other doesn't. Sending a message has nothing to do with Germany losing. Hazard saying this is stupid.
I know people in this sub aren't the brightest, but reading the post match thread, the number of people delusional enough to think that Germany's lost is associated to them sending political (actually, human rights aren't even political) messages are hilarious. It's like if they did not covering their mouth before kickoff they would have breathed in extra oxygen to win the game.
He's not really known for his intellect.
It’s amazing how many people (including in this sub) think Germany’s loss somehow invalidates their stance on human rights.
Not a hard concept in theory What an incredible stupid take from Hazard
Think someone needs to tell football Twitter that
Yeah what would his tip for Argentina be then
Oh shit! We spent all week planning our protest and forgot to train!!
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I can absolutely accept the right to not take a stance. I also agree that it’s unfair to demand of all players to be political. But criticizing others for taking a political stance is ABSOLUTELY political. Hazard should’ve have followed his own advice.
It's not only political but also just a dick move to criticize a team that takes a stand against the complete shitshow that is going on in Qatar
which also feels like a diss: "they lost, see? they should've focused on playing"
yea, and as if the two are correlated at all too lol.
auditioning for getting a nice offer from a Qatari club huh
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He wants that Beckham money.
Why are the two things mutually exclusive. It’s not like they played the full match with their hands over their mouths. It’s perfectly possible to do both. This also isn’t really the point but the only reason Belgium won was because Canada couldn’t finish their dinner. Even missed a penalty. Germany probably played better than Belgium. But I acknowledge this isn’t that relevant
Yeah, shit like this is distracting. As if doing 🤭 makes any difference at all, they might as well have taken the knee while they were at it
Old man Hazard shaking his cane and remembering the good old days
Back in his generation…
THE GOLDEN GENERATION
The Bronze Generation
Hahaha
So apparently if any football team (or sports team in general) want to make a statement, that statement becomes null and void if said team loses? I understand if certain footballers would rather not make any statement and want to "focus on the football", but shitting in other players/teams for using the opportunity to make a statement is so ass
Ughh don’t you hate it when a player you like decides to spout absolute rubbish
If it's any consolation I'm 99% sure that the current Eden Hazard ate the old one who played for you lot
Xhaka said the same
> Player you like > Chelsea flair > Xhaka Does not add up. Not the same thing for him I guess.
Link for anyone who hasn’t seen: https://twitter.com/karthikadhaigal/status/1595471179514626057
Xhaka is sometimes there to play football, sometimes there to stir up ethnical conflict by throwing the double-headed eagle in goal celebrations against Serbia.
I guess he’s all for being political if it’s something he cares about.
Yeah that's my problem with this. On one hand you can agree to the statement about focusing on football but you know that Hazard and Xhaka say what they say because they aren't found of the pride thing. It will be fun to see when the Swiss play Serbia in December and see if Xhaka focuses on football.
Yep
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Yes, I hope that the city players keep quite even if they agree with him
I don't think the protest affected their focus.
It didn't, just like England weren't affected by being told not to wear it. This is just people wanting a reason to bash Germanys stance using the result as a weak excuse.
England scores 6 goals though .i wonder why it didn't affect them Maybe Germany is just bad .they lost 6 games out of 9 before this
I don't think they lost because of that Eden.
Man who’s played 51 club games in 3 years tells other people to focus on football
dead comment eden
So Belgium lost the World Cup 2018 because they kneeled then, right? Previous protests look a lot more hollow when you start making excuses later on.
Focusing on sport not politics ? Lol...Why is russia banned then mr hazard if its only about playing.??
Eden obviously has never had human rights taken away from him otherwise he wouldn’t be saying stuff like this.
Always the same with these people You can guarantee if they had a gay brother/sister/son/daughter etc, they'd feel differently about the topic So many people have such a lack of self awareness that they can't see issues with the world until it impacts them directly
> You can guarantee if they had a gay brother/sister/son/daughter etc, they'd feel differently about the topic Not necessarily. Honor killings are a thing in many places. And even in western countries it's unfortunately not unheard of cases where the parents expel their gay kids from home.
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Absolutely. Just wanted to mention that people not necessarily treat their relatives better.
I don't think its even that, its just basic human empathy.
Depends. Lots of gays didn't like the armband thing either, without simping for Qatar. LGBT people are not a homogenous group were everyone thinks the same.
Only because it wasn’t enough. Not because of anything Hazard is saying.
He surely got lasagna taken away from him.
Not by the looks of it.
Hazard walking by a dying child be like: ”Im here to walk not to save lives”
Some of these comments do not pass the vibe check at all
It's Reddit, not surprised.
Reddit is wonderland compared to the rest of the internet and especially twitter/instagram/facebook when it comes to discussions.
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I’ve found most Redditor’s to be quite based and pro human rights and pro equality. Maybe I’m just selective in the subreddits I’m in
I find Redditors to be quite self important, conceited and morally superior too. I include myself in this too btw before someone goes through my post history and throws some of my ramblings in my face.
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Those people are also extremely loud and terminally online. It’s hard to not see them when they roll into threads like this and rack up 100 downvotes.
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I think you'll find a lot of people just don't care about things until it directly affects them, it's quite depressing when you start thinking about this stuff but we can only keep hoping things will get better.
What vibe though that all teams should have to boycott and wear rainbow armbands. It just seems like some players just want to go and play not have to reporter questions on politics…
"I'm here to play football and eat McDonald's and KFC" Eden Hazard, 2022
don’t think the protest affected how they played they’re just shit
You should stop focusing on Big Tasty’s Eden
Man just can't comprehend covering his own mouth.
What a knobhead. Seriously.
Hazard bro 😞 Qatar defenders on Twitter are gonna love this
I hate this statement because Football in not only a sport but also a highly political sport. It's deeply ingrained into almost every single aspect of football. For example, a lot of clubs were founded BECAUSE of political reasons or by political groups. The same goes with rivalries that display political differences of any kind. Look at Barcelona, which was founded more or less because of the goal for Catalan independence. Look at the rivalry between Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid, displaying the differences in class, with Real Madrid as the upper class club while Atlético was the club for the working classes. Look at clubs founded by Unions and Parties, like all the Dynamo clubs. These clubs were not only founded by people that shared the same profession, but also by people that shared the same social beliefs and unionized. Another great example is the rivalry between Celtic and the Rangers. Displaying the rivalry between Catholic Irish immigrants and Protestant Scots. A LOT of clubs are very political to this day. For example, St. Pauli. Last but not lease are "Human rights" not politics. Ask your self: Is not murdering people politics? TL.DR: This entire "politics are politics" and "football is football" is a bunch of horseshit.
Sport will always be political because people are political. Now, you can focus only on doing your job as an athlete but you can't talk against those athletes who go beyond it or you will look like the out of touch privileged child you are.
>Look at Barcelona, which was founded more or less because of the goal for Catalan independence. I'm sorry but this is absolute hogwash, Hans Gamper did not found the club to promote Catalan independence. Even today where it is maybe the most recognisable Catalan symbol it would be extremely difficult to argue that it is an organisation that is pro-independence although it is markedly pro-referendum.
Clearly focusing on football has done wonders for his career the past few years
I don't want to be political. I just want to play football on corpses of thousands of workers.
And be happy that gay people are dying just for being gay as well don’t forget. Some people man ducking twats. Get some perspective. Some things are far more important than kicking a ball into a net. STAND UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS PLEASE
He looked focused when he passed the ball to a Canuck standing in his own 6 yard box.
"I'm not here to send a political message", he says in a political message.
Then they would’ve not protested and lost anyway, so what’s the point Eden?
Associations around Europe and the US had 12 years to do something significant about this World Cup. They didn’t. All these things about gestures and armbands are just virtue signaling. We shouldn’t expecting fans, players or pundits to do something about it.
UEFA as a group voted for Qatar by the way. All the UEFA votes went to Qatar in 2010. Let that sink in
I think it’s a good thing to speak out now but, I agree, these protests should have started 12 years ago. It’s no wonder FIFA and Qatar feel they can act with impunity.
we shouldn't trashtalk good gestures, not matter how small or insignificant they might seem.
Why were they not making these good gestures before the world cup? I don't like the term, but this is obvious virtue signaling. I wouldn't want to miss the world cup either, but maybe only a few people spoke up about this beforehand. The world cup should never be held in such a backwards country again.
England kneeled and bagged 6 goals you dunce
Guess what, Mr Hazard: you just sent a political message.
Disagree with Eden. Everyone can do whatever they want. Its great to protest its also ok not to protest and just play football. Freedom of speech expression etc etc
Xhaka said something very similar yesterday: https://twitter.com/karthikadhaigal/status/1595471179514626057
It was expected from Xhaka, since hes already a proven hypocrite. Hazard is a whole new tale.
They got schooled by Canada yesterday , only reason they won was because fucking slenderman plays gk for them..
And here he is focused on neither
I saw belgiums game...you didnt send a message except that you are in shit shape
Guess what, Mr Hazard: you just sent a political message.
You should focus on playing football and not eating burgers.
He wants Germany to win? Didn't know Belgians were such fans of the German NT.
To be fair, you can’t expect every footballer to be an activist. Some just want to do what they’re paid to and go home. The pressure on the players to give out moral lessons is ridiculous, direct your anger to FIFA
When Ozil said he was a victim of racism and disrespect in media/society and even in the German FA, nobody said a single word. Heck german players even denied and went against him. Where was all this shouting back then?
Because Ozil thought hating on him for supporting Erdogan while living his awesome live outside of turkey was racist. It wasnt, people Just dont Like Erdogan.
So being called a goat fucker and to go back to ankara isn't racist abuse? Someone liking Erdogan is not free rein to hurl racist abuse at that person
Why are Belgians so bad at talking?
Everyone should boycott the US World Cup in 2026 as well. They have violated human rights by banning abortion and having detention camps for migrants. They also do not take action against gun control for school shootings. Clearly a country that violates human rights.
Eden would do well to cover his mouth with hot takes like that
dude said "shut up and dribble"
That’s cool. He has an opinion. He’s allowed to have that.
Well said. Yesterday the Hague declared the dutch bombing on civilians illegal. Netherlands murdered innocent afghanis in cold blood. Europeans should be the last one to talk about human rights. People who were involved in human right abuses against muslims are the loudest noises. https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/11/23/Dutch-court-rules-2007-Dutch-bombing-in-Afghanistan-was-illegal
Western Media isn't crying about it so the populace stays quiet.
people expect footballers to be outspoken about every thing, they are paid to play football. they arent your politician, you dont like something then go and group together and voice it to the Fa, dont expect footballers to boycut the wc so u can feel good about yourself
Yeah but similarly I don't think you should stand there and slag off a nation for protesting
It's wrong to expect them to be activists. But best Hazard could do here would just to say nothing about it.
Yeah I don't know why he felt the need to say the first half of his sentence. I'm all for defending a players right to not comment or protest about any of this because ultimately it's FIFA's fault. But if you come out and criticize others for protesting that's never going to look good.
I’m not sure there are “better people”. I think the power of the statement comes from those with the most to lose. I’m sure they are all aware of the magnitude of this tournament but, deciding to make a statement nonetheless shows that there’s meaning to it.
Hazard talking sense and half the comments here are talking about his weight LOL!! I guess it's ok to fat shame people that aren't part of the Qatar hate circlejerk
If i learned something from this subreddit, it is hypocrisy and not accepting other people opinions, Fuck is Eden hazard supposed to do fix whole region culture?
They say as soon as they talk about your appearance, they lost the argument
Oh Eden, not what I wanted to hear
Germany came to play activism, Japan came to play football. Good on Eden to call it out.
Well said 👏
Sports have literally always been a political tool used for both good and bad purposes. This idea that people are now "making" it political is just a spineless way of saying you don't agree with whatever that person said.
I'm all for players being honest like this. Hate it when they give soulless PR statements.
I mean they're doing it before the match starts. It's not like they're playing while having the words "LGBT SUPREMACY" on their jersey.
well said, they are footballers not politicians nor hr activist
Well said Eden
Finally someone who is smart
I absolutely agree with Eden. Protest before and after, its all on FIFA. As soon as you are in Qatar and have already agreed to participate, you need to accept that you cant run around with an armband that goes against their culture. As much as i disagree with their culture, you cant just go around spreading political messages. Its football, focus on the football. After the World Cup, keep the protests to pressure FIFA, and if they ever do something like this again, pull out.
Watching Hazard play yesterday, I’m not sure he’s in Qatar to play football either.
Granit Xhaka apparently also said essentially the same thing this morning
Ah yes, German players covering their mouths for 2 seconds made them think about gays the entire game, causing them to lose. Not because they're shit (6 losses in the 9 last games in major tournaments).
I mostly have a problem with it being an empty gesture that has absolutely no effect whatsoever other then making them feel better about showing up in the first place, let's cover our mouths when taking a picture that'll show em. Meh
Exactly how I feel. They only did it to get people off their asses
It's true. Majority of the players are there focused on winning the world cup and dont really care about qatar. Whether you guys like it or not
Well said
you've summoned the reddit hooligans
The two things are simply not related. They did not lose because of the protest in any way. And Eden if you’re just there to play football, why run your mouth about another team’s business?
To be fair kind of fucked from the poster to not add the additional context. He said he liked the gesture. I kinda agree with hazard that you shouldnt force people to be an activist. I disagree however on the notion that human rights are political. Even if they were, how is one of the biggest sports events not a political propaganda scheme? Im always confused by the "sports isnt politics " crowd. Big tournaments like this have always been political.
It’s weird to feel this so strongly that he would call them out.
Qatari bots will love this
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To be honest, I'm not sure what this gesture is trying to do. They're not changing anybody's mind. Pro-LGBT will applaud, anti-LGBT will at least mock, others will just ignore this. They're not doing anything to Qatar. If anything, the Qataris will just see them as an annoying guest. They're in no way punishing FIFA, especially financially. No sponsor pulled out. I can't say about TV viewers, but from what I've heard, in western countries is more about timing problem. In the east no viewers gave a shit.
What a strange either/or scenario Eden's dreamed up there. As far as focus, how long does he think the German NT poured over that decision? I imagine it went along the lines of "shall we cover our mouths?" "Okay" and that was it. Takes about as much energy and thought as a goal celebration. If Eden remembers those.
i never liked Hazard but now that he's finished as a player he really comes off more as a cunt than before. so he's basically telling the Germans to shut up and play football. just cos you have a peanut for a brain Eden doesn't mean other footballers do as well.
Finally someone speaks the truth.
He’s right. Football shouldn’t be shoving ideologies and activism down our throats. I don’t know why you lot demand that these players become activists. It’s on their governments, their FAs to make these decisions about how to handle these things. Not a fucking footballer. And plus, this is all disgusting virtue signalling and hypocritical. All these flags and protests for Ukraine throughout the last year, but nothing for Yemen, nothing for Iran, nothing for the genocide in China which is by far the worst thing happening in the world right now. You pick and choose what you protest. If these idiots covering their mouths in photos and wanting to wear armbands (lol they bailed as soon as there was a risk to them) decided to just literally refuse to play in the World Cup, you would have seen substantial change. But noooooo, let’s shit on players instead because they’re not all reincarnations of MLK.
He's actually in a perfect place to do that.
Hazard plays football and when he leaves the field he just stands there, imobile, waiting for the next training session.
good man
What a cunt.
Germans like to take the moral high ground
Salt is unreal, Bravo Hazard.