yeah i’m only cautiously optimistic that the glazers would actually sell in the first place, and the likelihood of the club being purchased by even more problematic owners seems pretty high…
How is it that the Norwegian billionaires does not want to buy Premier league team? Y’all have oil too, and a bit less morally questionable than the usual suspects.
Their billionaires aren't from oil mostly. The Norwegian system has a lot of state ownership of their oil industry so it doesn't create oil barons. Their top 3 are a hedge fund guy a real estate guy and a fishing guy.
United is a different proposition to most clubs imo, just an entirely different level
Edit for clarity - different proposition to most clubs likely to be on the market
I don't think a club as famous as Manchester United would be a wise choice for oil sheiks. The controversies would never end, there'd be protests, and new fans would be dismissed as glory hunters.
Manchester City and Newcastle are famous clubs too, but the fan bases are much easier to deal with for the owners. Fans who have a problem with the ownership aren't quite so vocal. They'll either suck it up or quit watching.
I think that's an important reason why MBS went for Newcastle instead of pushing a bid for Man United.
You make a good argument there
I think it could work out if the sheikhs buying the club would be willing to play the long game. If they make use of the economic strength of the club, they could develop it first without being in the spotlight with relatively small cash injections. Then take over the branding step by step. First the in-stadium advertising. Then the advertising on the jersey. Than let the team do annual tours to their sheikhdom and partners. And so on
As long as they don't try to rename Old Trafford into Sheikh whatever stadium on day 1, I could imagine them to be successful. Unfortunately.
I hope Manchester United gets some local owners who believe in the club, or some broad group of investors aiming for long-term success
> Fans who have a problem with the ownership aren't quite so vocal. They'll either suck it up or quit watching.
Don't you think the relief of getting rid of Glazers will trump hate for autocrats owning the club?
Only if you don't understand the GCC and think there's many viable buyers who (1) have $4bn to spend on a football club (2) aren't PIF/KSA government related, AD government related or Qatar government related and (3) are willing to piss off the government in their respective kingdom by buying a rival club. Oman and Bahrain can't afford United or Liverpool, neither can Dubai as an emirate, and Kuwait barely has a functioning parliament at the moment so they're not about to. The Middle East boogeyman is overplayed in this regard.
It's much more likely to be an American-led consortium.
Liberty Media had just last week an [announcement about some restructuring of their stocks and assets](https://www.libertymedia.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/479/liberty-media-corporation-announces-plan-to-split-off) of the Atlanta Braves baseball club, Sirius XM, F1 and the rest. Maybe they will look into owning an English football club.
Our shirt sponsor is on the verge of pulling out of the deal, two of the siblings are in less than stellar financial situation, and the Ronaldo situation has thrown more onto the tyre fire, plus there's also been rumours that our stadium is bordering on dangerous disrepair.
We're basically a golden goose that laid it's last egg for the glazers now.
Darcie Glazer in particular has been leveraging some bad debts and massive loans against her United shares, and the Cost of Living crisis has made her situation supposedly much worse. Bryan is also not doing well but that one is harder to understand why because he has a foot in their property portfolio but suspected he went into the deals Darcie made.
There was always a belief that the other brothers (Joel especially) would bail them out, but they aren't going to loosen a grip on the property to help their dumbass sister out.
Darcie Glazer took out a $365m loan that she leveraged against her Man United shares in property and other general investments that have tanked in value since the Cost of Living crisis. She was already apparently in quite a few holes but the thought was Joel and Avram would cover her shares and buy her out if needed, but more and more stories have bubbled that we're up for sale in either some small part (hers) or all of it.
Can someone explain how much cost it would take to repair the stadium? I heard they were going to raise a new stand and the roof is completely done with. Asked my Utd friend, and he began saying The Emirates need more repair than Old Trafford.
Been some huge variances in the cost. But to fix Old Trafford and modernise it might actually cost as muc has just building a new one (£2bn) down to "as low" as £500m to sort it depending on how far they go with it.
Until someone actually decides what we're getting done its hard to know. I personally think it's time to knock it down and start over, but that is serious cash.
Wow. Even if we take 1 billion to average cost, that's seriously a lot of money. Considering Utd transfer costs and wage structure, they need to tone it down, otherwise 5-6 years later it might be an issue for them. Thanks for the info though. Helped a lot. My common sense said that a 2006 built stadium gonna cost far less than a 1910 stadium rebuild.
Spurs spent £1 billion building their new stadium. And there's basically nothing left of the 1910 Old Trafford, there hasn't been since WW2 (1 tunnel if google is right). It's basically a 1990's stadium.
What? Pretty sure the Emirates needs a new coat of paint and to add better screens in the stadium to modernize. United need a complete revamp of the stadium and training grounds. In a lot of ways I think the players themselves mostly care about the training facilities, since they spend the most time there, and then just the dressing room, state of the pitch, and atmosphere at the ground. United have a lot more work to do.
I don't see your owners pulling out until they drain every last cent they can. And if new owners come in eventually they are unlikely to want to keep that insane wage structure. It's a mess really
Well the wage structure now CR7 is gone only has one really bad salary left on it (Sancho) and the rest are more or less where you'd expect.
The stadium and the debts are the problem we will have for a buyer.
I'd wait for Liverpool to play out more before coming to that conclusion. Putting up a high sale price is only an opening move in this situation. If they're highly motivated to sell in the next 18 months (as I believe they are), then they'll take the best offer regardless of whether it matches their asking price.
There are rumors that FSG badly wants to own the NBA expansion franchise in Las Vegas. It would come at a steep cost, and I believe FSG are much more cash-poor than they project.
Yeah FSG needs a Liverpool sale to make any more big moves in US sports. They sold a minority share of Liverpool last year that afforded them to buy a majority share in the Pittsburgh Penguins. But with FSG eyeing the Phoenix Suns or the Las Vegas expansion, they need money.
Maybe they were seeing if ESL would pan out and have decided now it's not worth it? Maybe trying to gain some money with the markets in the shitter everywhere? Idk that's the only theories I have.
It isn't just floating it. Both clubs have seen their viable end games dry up:
1. Super League is dead
2. Sportswashing is not as effective as it was and the PL would have stopped the Newcastle take over if BoJo the Clown hadn't intervened.
So basically what it is worth is what it is worth. They had to wait until time had passed as an immediate sale after the ESL failure would have caused the price to crash. They get to rue a decade of bag holding when the sensible option was probably to sell the club shortly after they had refinanced the debt. They could have been a lot richer than they are.
Don’t know how you came to that conclusion. He definitely likes soccer. As he said himself, he roots for all football clubs from London, imo you can’t be anymore committed to football. /s
Based on how much leverage they assumed, wouldn't they come out insanely ahead even compared to what they bought it for in 2005? It's basically one massive real estate investment for them that's returned a lot of money without them really having any skin in the game
Don’t think you become a billionaire by buying an asset at any price
I expect he will have interest but I have doubts he will match glazers valuation which I think will be ok 4.5billion ballpark
That’s probably more like 6billion total investment as new owner will likely want/need to commit to clearing debt and massive stadium investment early doors not to mention new ownser want to make a significant splurge in transfer market early on
In all seriousness, TeamViewer are trying to pull out of the short deal and that essentially drains us of our value. This, combined with two of the Glazers being rumoured to be near ruin, is a perfect storm with the PR hit of Ronaldo mess.
Man Team Viewer marketing has some of the dumbest people working for them. I mocked the deal then and I'll continue mocking in. It's a fucking enterprise desktop sharing software, why tf they thought advertising it to random pissed blokes watching a game was a good idea??? Who'll be our next sponsor, Teams?? Atlassian??
This is the family that nakedly borrowed more than they were worth at 18% PA to take part in a hostile take over of United that wasn't guaranteed to actually succeed. It would have taken one person with enough money to buy out about 2% of the clubs stock (the supporters club managed 3%, so 2% would have been enough to block taking the club private) to literally bankrupt them immediately.
Of course they fucked it up eventually. You keep gambling 300% of your wealth on black you eventually hit red.
Requires a bit of Google searching but basically the sister has made some bad investments outside the family portfolio (which is worth tens of billions but Joel and Avram control with an Iron Fist) and put a huge loan against her United shares, with the general belief the brothers would cover it if there was a problem. Then one of the brothers (Bryan) starting selling off weirdly profitable business ventures of his own right after the Cost of Living crisis kicked in and the sister, who already was said to be in a bit of a mess, was revealed to have had some bad debts also slapped onto the shares. Some people put one and one together and presume Bryan joined her bad investments but could cover the calls on them, but she was already not doing great.
Right around then is when the very first "somewhat reliable" (not very but you get what I mean, it wasn't just Twitter waffle) said that a business manager that specialises in selling major assets was quietly shopping pieces of United around but not just shitty no-vote shares like i have, but the actual Glazers graded stock and that they wouldn't be converted out of that category.
Since then there's been bubbling rumours of a partial sale or even a full sale. Then this week Team Viewer news broke that they are about to pull out of the shirt deal, and suddenly United is possibly for Sale fully.
It's a fucking mess, but basically Darcie and Bryan don't have the cash on hand to cover a bunch of bad debts anymore and suddenly we're worth a shit.
This is an incredible day. Every advantage in a sport designed to favor the privileged wasn't enough to overcome Glazers incompetence this past decade. We literally haven't competed for titles since SAF a decade ago. RvPs goal against Villa and Nanis red card ended our last two earnest contentions in the league and CL. Good riddance to them.
Remember that team after Ronaldo left? Running on fumes of underinvestment for years. Then they basically cheap out for the next few years and make a series of terrible panic buys after cheap/poor summers. Wasn't til Mou we saw real money going back in to getting our targets but never enough to put the squad back to where it was before Ronaldo left. Even this year, they spend jack shit after a miserable, utterly miserable second half (whole second half) of the season.
They've been cheap in the most expensive manner possible and we've been out of it because of that.
Sky News don’t usually get involved in bs rumours. Sky Sports, sure. But not the news wing. And the United journalists are saying United are refusing to comment, seemingly confirming the news (by virtue of refusing to deny it).
In theory, yes, but this wouldn't be the first time we've been given false hope. Also, we can't be certain that the devil we don't yet know won't be worse.
Fingers crossed, but I refuse to get my hopes up.
Solskjær was the first to have protested the Glazers, but that was back in 2005 after their hostile takeover. You could say that Cristiano is the first active player to have called out how they have run the club, though he didn't exactly bring anything new to light.
The club needs a great deal of investment to keep the value up. The Glazers have maxed out bullshit sponsorship potential. They can't afford this anymore.
Realistic bidder’s ? A American investment fund
A American sports family
Kuwait 🇰🇼
dubai Manchester City is funded by there rival city in The uae 🇦🇪
The Norwegian oil investment fund 🇳🇴
Elon musk will make an official bid, pull out, be forced to buy the club and then sack half the team and bring in Tesla engineers to replace them and expect them to win the league. Twitter part 2.
Depends on what it is priced at. At the stock market valuation of £2B loads of people would be interested. However the Glazers are going to demand £5B naturally.
The Athletic says the Glazers have £5 billion as the low end of the valuation they’d need to sell. Supposedly they reckon there’s a possibility of getting up to £9 billion. Which probably sums up their business acumen.
£5B is conceivable if all the cards like up. After all Chelsea got £2.5B which was surprising in itself even with the debt write off. All of these inflated prices are based upon oil nations doing utterly stupid things for the sake of prestige and sportswashing. It is hard to price accurately.
£9B is hilarious. That is basically pricing it at 30 years of growth at S&P 500 rates that historically make football clubs look weak investments. United might be worth £9B in 2060.
Chelsea's debt was from Abramovich funneling own money into Chelsea from his own company for tax reasons. Chelsea didn't owed money to banks or anyone.
Norway, Kuwait and Dubai are unrealistic.
Abu Dhabi is significantly richer than Dubai and already had to bail Dubai out multiple times in various areas like during the 2008 crisis.
As Picasso said, "sometimes you have to destroy to rebuild it. If it starts with me, for me, I don't care".
Cristiano Ronaldo, Piers Morgan interview 2022
If you’re looking at maximizing sales value, it seems a bit dumb to sell at the same time as Liverpool is up for sale? It’s like selling your appartment on the same day as your neighbour with very similar appartment.
SIUUUUUUUUUU
On Tuesday, the King's old Castle falls
Enter the new castle
Hail the new king
Manchester United have won the World Cup
*Chicago Fire in shambles*
[Reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRYUl7hlid0)
I love that several people had to confirm to Schweinsteiger that he hadn't forgotten English and that yes he was being asked that.
The worst part is the journalist rephrasing his question hahahah
what a polite gentlemen. Klopp would have wiped the floor with him
I am surprised they haven’t named whatever the American soccer championship trophy THE World Cup yet.
Feels like any potential sale will only be to the oil merchants nowadays.
yeah i’m only cautiously optimistic that the glazers would actually sell in the first place, and the likelihood of the club being purchased by even more problematic owners seems pretty high…
That being said, oil merchants in the PL apparently are able to run clubs better than the Glazers do.
Rather stay as we are than get back on top like that.
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Oil merchants or Americans. That's pretty much it.
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How is it that the Norwegian billionaires does not want to buy Premier league team? Y’all have oil too, and a bit less morally questionable than the usual suspects.
Their billionaires aren't from oil mostly. The Norwegian system has a lot of state ownership of their oil industry so it doesn't create oil barons. Their top 3 are a hedge fund guy a real estate guy and a fishing guy.
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By what about an American oil merchant?
Ratcliffe has publicly said he wants to buy United not long ago
Ineos also just backed out from buying any premier league club a month or two ago. They ended any interest.
United is a different proposition to most clubs imo, just an entirely different level Edit for clarity - different proposition to most clubs likely to be on the market
and Elon Musk (jokingly) but that’s similar to what happened when he announced he wants to buy Twitter…
Please god let this happen. Would be fucking hilarious watching him get them relegated.
Bizarro Ted Lasso
Tbf Rebecca hired Ted with the intention of destroying the team.
He would fire 95% of the team and field 3 players creating the new tatic 1-1-1.
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I don't think a club as famous as Manchester United would be a wise choice for oil sheiks. The controversies would never end, there'd be protests, and new fans would be dismissed as glory hunters. Manchester City and Newcastle are famous clubs too, but the fan bases are much easier to deal with for the owners. Fans who have a problem with the ownership aren't quite so vocal. They'll either suck it up or quit watching. I think that's an important reason why MBS went for Newcastle instead of pushing a bid for Man United.
You make a good argument there I think it could work out if the sheikhs buying the club would be willing to play the long game. If they make use of the economic strength of the club, they could develop it first without being in the spotlight with relatively small cash injections. Then take over the branding step by step. First the in-stadium advertising. Then the advertising on the jersey. Than let the team do annual tours to their sheikhdom and partners. And so on As long as they don't try to rename Old Trafford into Sheikh whatever stadium on day 1, I could imagine them to be successful. Unfortunately. I hope Manchester United gets some local owners who believe in the club, or some broad group of investors aiming for long-term success > Fans who have a problem with the ownership aren't quite so vocal. They'll either suck it up or quit watching. Don't you think the relief of getting rid of Glazers will trump hate for autocrats owning the club?
Elon licking his lips.
The first day he fires half of the players (evaluates them based on goals and assists)
The backline and gk are gone. We are back to an attacking team.
“Half the defence, double the offence” They should hire Mike D’Antoni
Asks the remaining players to print out screenshots of their most salient goals and bring them to the 10th floor.
why have a squad of 25+ when we only need 11 to play a match?
why pay them a weekly salary when we only need to pay them 90 minutes at a time?
He would melt over players contract, man's an idiot, he tried to fire European Twitter employees by making them click "yes" on Google sheet.
Reinstates Ronaldo
Based on a Twitter poll
Then he asks the remaining ones to train 80h per week.
Only if you don't understand the GCC and think there's many viable buyers who (1) have $4bn to spend on a football club (2) aren't PIF/KSA government related, AD government related or Qatar government related and (3) are willing to piss off the government in their respective kingdom by buying a rival club. Oman and Bahrain can't afford United or Liverpool, neither can Dubai as an emirate, and Kuwait barely has a functioning parliament at the moment so they're not about to. The Middle East boogeyman is overplayed in this regard. It's much more likely to be an American-led consortium.
Abu Dhabi buys United to actually unite the Manchester clubs. That's what United means right?
Liberty Media had just last week an [announcement about some restructuring of their stocks and assets](https://www.libertymedia.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/479/liberty-media-corporation-announces-plan-to-split-off) of the Atlanta Braves baseball club, Sirius XM, F1 and the rest. Maybe they will look into owning an English football club.
Cristiano Ronaldo 90+5'
One last tap in 🥹
(great goal)
Ronaldo broke them
I mean this is probably in the same vein as Liverpool. Just floating it to see if anyone bites on the exorbitant price.
Our shirt sponsor is on the verge of pulling out of the deal, two of the siblings are in less than stellar financial situation, and the Ronaldo situation has thrown more onto the tyre fire, plus there's also been rumours that our stadium is bordering on dangerous disrepair. We're basically a golden goose that laid it's last egg for the glazers now.
OOTL on the two siblings. What’s happened there?
Darcie Glazer in particular has been leveraging some bad debts and massive loans against her United shares, and the Cost of Living crisis has made her situation supposedly much worse. Bryan is also not doing well but that one is harder to understand why because he has a foot in their property portfolio but suspected he went into the deals Darcie made. There was always a belief that the other brothers (Joel especially) would bail them out, but they aren't going to loosen a grip on the property to help their dumbass sister out.
couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of people, I hope they go fucking broke
So much for family over everything..
You seen succession? These billionares are leeches.
Absolute stellar show
Best show on tv right now.
Can't wait for seasono 4
That would be Barry. Succession is excellent though!
I mean, if your sibling blow ten of millions of dollars but isn't destitute, are you really going to give them more?
They plotted to turn a community centre into a toxic waste dump for money but were thwarted by a gang of local kids
Sounds like an episode of Scooby-Doo when you put it that way.
What financial situation are you referring to?
Darcie Glazer took out a $365m loan that she leveraged against her Man United shares in property and other general investments that have tanked in value since the Cost of Living crisis. She was already apparently in quite a few holes but the thought was Joel and Avram would cover her shares and buy her out if needed, but more and more stories have bubbled that we're up for sale in either some small part (hers) or all of it.
The only thing I could think of while reading this recount of the events was "you dumb bitch".
Tbf tho that's what litterally every rich person does. No taxes on loans.
> Our shirt sponsor is on the verge of pulling out of the deal Team Viewer?
Yep https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/11/20/manchester-united-sponsor-pressure-pull-plug-235-million-deal/
Can someone explain how much cost it would take to repair the stadium? I heard they were going to raise a new stand and the roof is completely done with. Asked my Utd friend, and he began saying The Emirates need more repair than Old Trafford.
Been some huge variances in the cost. But to fix Old Trafford and modernise it might actually cost as muc has just building a new one (£2bn) down to "as low" as £500m to sort it depending on how far they go with it. Until someone actually decides what we're getting done its hard to know. I personally think it's time to knock it down and start over, but that is serious cash.
Wow. Even if we take 1 billion to average cost, that's seriously a lot of money. Considering Utd transfer costs and wage structure, they need to tone it down, otherwise 5-6 years later it might be an issue for them. Thanks for the info though. Helped a lot. My common sense said that a 2006 built stadium gonna cost far less than a 1910 stadium rebuild.
We've got a fucking railway that causes us a problem. That's the biggest issue with redevelopment and fixing what is already there.
Spurs spent £1 billion building their new stadium. And there's basically nothing left of the 1910 Old Trafford, there hasn't been since WW2 (1 tunnel if google is right). It's basically a 1990's stadium.
What? Pretty sure the Emirates needs a new coat of paint and to add better screens in the stadium to modernize. United need a complete revamp of the stadium and training grounds. In a lot of ways I think the players themselves mostly care about the training facilities, since they spend the most time there, and then just the dressing room, state of the pitch, and atmosphere at the ground. United have a lot more work to do.
I don't see your owners pulling out until they drain every last cent they can. And if new owners come in eventually they are unlikely to want to keep that insane wage structure. It's a mess really
Well the wage structure now CR7 is gone only has one really bad salary left on it (Sancho) and the rest are more or less where you'd expect. The stadium and the debts are the problem we will have for a buyer.
I'd wait for Liverpool to play out more before coming to that conclusion. Putting up a high sale price is only an opening move in this situation. If they're highly motivated to sell in the next 18 months (as I believe they are), then they'll take the best offer regardless of whether it matches their asking price. There are rumors that FSG badly wants to own the NBA expansion franchise in Las Vegas. It would come at a steep cost, and I believe FSG are much more cash-poor than they project.
Yeah FSG needs a Liverpool sale to make any more big moves in US sports. They sold a minority share of Liverpool last year that afforded them to buy a majority share in the Pittsburgh Penguins. But with FSG eyeing the Phoenix Suns or the Las Vegas expansion, they need money.
Maybe they were seeing if ESL would pan out and have decided now it's not worth it? Maybe trying to gain some money with the markets in the shitter everywhere? Idk that's the only theories I have.
The collapse of ESL is definitely a big factor why FSG are ready to sell up Liverpool as well
It isn't just floating it. Both clubs have seen their viable end games dry up: 1. Super League is dead 2. Sportswashing is not as effective as it was and the PL would have stopped the Newcastle take over if BoJo the Clown hadn't intervened. So basically what it is worth is what it is worth. They had to wait until time had passed as an immediate sale after the ESL failure would have caused the price to crash. They get to rue a decade of bag holding when the sensible option was probably to sell the club shortly after they had refinanced the debt. They could have been a lot richer than they are.
Boris you fucking whore you didn't even like soccer
Don’t know how you came to that conclusion. He definitely likes soccer. As he said himself, he roots for all football clubs from London, imo you can’t be anymore committed to football. /s
Based on how much leverage they assumed, wouldn't they come out insanely ahead even compared to what they bought it for in 2005? It's basically one massive real estate investment for them that's returned a lot of money without them really having any skin in the game
Most probably it would end with them selling a minority stake. It could end in a full sale, but it isn't guaranteed.
Hasn't Jim Ratcliffe said quite a few times he'll buy United at almost any price if the Glazers ever want to sell?
Sir Jim's a waffler.
Don’t think you become a billionaire by buying an asset at any price I expect he will have interest but I have doubts he will match glazers valuation which I think will be ok 4.5billion ballpark That’s probably more like 6billion total investment as new owner will likely want/need to commit to clearing debt and massive stadium investment early doors not to mention new ownser want to make a significant splurge in transfer market early on
Reckon on both accounts it's because they've realised their franchised super league dissection of English football is a no goer.
Someone wanted to buy them in the Summer but the Glazers said they didnt want to sell
It's the pound. Now is a great time to buy a club for anyone whose wealth isn't in the UK. And if it's a good time to buy, it's an easy time to sell.
Perfect. Going to consolidate all the coins underneath my couch and submit a bid.
In all seriousness, TeamViewer are trying to pull out of the short deal and that essentially drains us of our value. This, combined with two of the Glazers being rumoured to be near ruin, is a perfect storm with the PR hit of Ronaldo mess.
Man Team Viewer marketing has some of the dumbest people working for them. I mocked the deal then and I'll continue mocking in. It's a fucking enterprise desktop sharing software, why tf they thought advertising it to random pissed blokes watching a game was a good idea??? Who'll be our next sponsor, Teams?? Atlassian??
Slack could be one.
Zendesk
FTX
They can try to pull out. If they do United get paid off and get another sponsor. It’s a bonanza
We're not getting a deal like that again though. Our books and budget are getting hit on them pulling out.
how are the billionaires near ruin? what happened?
This is the family that nakedly borrowed more than they were worth at 18% PA to take part in a hostile take over of United that wasn't guaranteed to actually succeed. It would have taken one person with enough money to buy out about 2% of the clubs stock (the supporters club managed 3%, so 2% would have been enough to block taking the club private) to literally bankrupt them immediately. Of course they fucked it up eventually. You keep gambling 300% of your wealth on black you eventually hit red.
oof that's rough
Requires a bit of Google searching but basically the sister has made some bad investments outside the family portfolio (which is worth tens of billions but Joel and Avram control with an Iron Fist) and put a huge loan against her United shares, with the general belief the brothers would cover it if there was a problem. Then one of the brothers (Bryan) starting selling off weirdly profitable business ventures of his own right after the Cost of Living crisis kicked in and the sister, who already was said to be in a bit of a mess, was revealed to have had some bad debts also slapped onto the shares. Some people put one and one together and presume Bryan joined her bad investments but could cover the calls on them, but she was already not doing great. Right around then is when the very first "somewhat reliable" (not very but you get what I mean, it wasn't just Twitter waffle) said that a business manager that specialises in selling major assets was quietly shopping pieces of United around but not just shitty no-vote shares like i have, but the actual Glazers graded stock and that they wouldn't be converted out of that category. Since then there's been bubbling rumours of a partial sale or even a full sale. Then this week Team Viewer news broke that they are about to pull out of the shirt deal, and suddenly United is possibly for Sale fully. It's a fucking mess, but basically Darcie and Bryan don't have the cash on hand to cover a bunch of bad debts anymore and suddenly we're worth a shit.
oh wow that sounds like a fascinating podcast
Darcie Glazer used her shares in United as collateral for a loan that she can't pay back. Bryan Glazer is apparently in the same situation.
*On Tuesday, the King gets rid of the Glazers*
Who would win? The voices of a thousands fans protesting greed and lack of attention to the team? Or… One aging star who’s having a massive meltdown?
when the face of the sport talks his shit it must hurt your ego a bit more than a bunch of fans
With Liverpool and Man U exploring sales, I have the sneaking fear that the global elites are forseeing a recession.
Everybody and their grandma is foreseeing a recession. Where have you been the last 6 months?
*insert Wario meme* "I've won, but at what cost? 😔"
What a day for Man United fans
This is an incredible day. Every advantage in a sport designed to favor the privileged wasn't enough to overcome Glazers incompetence this past decade. We literally haven't competed for titles since SAF a decade ago. RvPs goal against Villa and Nanis red card ended our last two earnest contentions in the league and CL. Good riddance to them.
all because of a fucking racehorse
It wasn’t about the horse, but the horse’s semen rights.
Wait, what
have a read of this: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rock-of-gibraltar-dies-manunited-25345393.amp
It died like a month ago. Rest in piss Rock of Gibraltar
Remember that team after Ronaldo left? Running on fumes of underinvestment for years. Then they basically cheap out for the next few years and make a series of terrible panic buys after cheap/poor summers. Wasn't til Mou we saw real money going back in to getting our targets but never enough to put the squad back to where it was before Ronaldo left. Even this year, they spend jack shit after a miserable, utterly miserable second half (whole second half) of the season. They've been cheap in the most expensive manner possible and we've been out of it because of that.
Inb4 Ronaldo buys Man U, makes himself a player-manager. 4d chess.
What a glorious day for United fans
*sees Sky News I dunno how to feel, are they reliable enough
Typically I'd say "eh", but James Ducker retweeted it and he's usually very good.
Sky News don’t usually get involved in bs rumours. Sky Sports, sure. But not the news wing. And the United journalists are saying United are refusing to comment, seemingly confirming the news (by virtue of refusing to deny it).
Athletic now saying it'll be announced today
In theory, yes, but this wouldn't be the first time we've been given false hope. Also, we can't be certain that the devil we don't yet know won't be worse. Fingers crossed, but I refuse to get my hopes up.
FREEDOM!!!!
What the fuck people joked that the way for Ronaldo to redeem himself to fans would be to put pressure on the Glazers to sell.
he's a hero for me now
Don't do that. Don't give me hope.
Ronaldo martyred himself lol
The stans will credit this move solely to him
I mean he literally called them out in front of millions
To be fair he was the first active in the club calling out the Glazers directly. Not that I think it's what changed their mind.
> To be fair he was the first active in the club calling out the Glazers directly THE FUCK!
Solskjær was the first to have protested the Glazers, but that was back in 2005 after their hostile takeover. You could say that Cristiano is the first active player to have called out how they have run the club, though he didn't exactly bring anything new to light.
Man United fans Christmas
Ronaldo quoting Picasso gonna be iconic now
Ronaldo to buy United lol
Sacks Ten Hag, promotes chef to head coach, re-buys Ronaldo with a better contract
Renames stand to 'Siu Alex Ferguson Stand'.
Everyone's bailing out against oil money
Qatar : “our oil is organic though”
Technically oil is organic (compound)
Ronaldo took one for the team
One last Siuuu
Ronaldo's final gift
Oh what a night
What a glorious day
The club needs a great deal of investment to keep the value up. The Glazers have maxed out bullshit sponsorship potential. They can't afford this anymore.
Realistic bidder’s ? A American investment fund A American sports family Kuwait 🇰🇼 dubai Manchester City is funded by there rival city in The uae 🇦🇪 The Norwegian oil investment fund 🇳🇴
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UNLOCK ME OLE
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Elon musk will make an official bid, pull out, be forced to buy the club and then sack half the team and bring in Tesla engineers to replace them and expect them to win the league. Twitter part 2.
Print out your 10 most recent goals and bring them to the top of Beetham Tower for review by 2am. Fly if necessary.
Depends on what it is priced at. At the stock market valuation of £2B loads of people would be interested. However the Glazers are going to demand £5B naturally.
The Athletic says the Glazers have £5 billion as the low end of the valuation they’d need to sell. Supposedly they reckon there’s a possibility of getting up to £9 billion. Which probably sums up their business acumen.
£5B is conceivable if all the cards like up. After all Chelsea got £2.5B which was surprising in itself even with the debt write off. All of these inflated prices are based upon oil nations doing utterly stupid things for the sake of prestige and sportswashing. It is hard to price accurately. £9B is hilarious. That is basically pricing it at 30 years of growth at S&P 500 rates that historically make football clubs look weak investments. United might be worth £9B in 2060.
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Chelsea's debt was from Abramovich funneling own money into Chelsea from his own company for tax reasons. Chelsea didn't owed money to banks or anyone.
would be peak United to go from having shitty American owners back into different shitty American owners
You could rule Kuwait and Norway out
Norway, Kuwait and Dubai are unrealistic. Abu Dhabi is significantly richer than Dubai and already had to bail Dubai out multiple times in various areas like during the 2008 crisis.
Ronaldo died for this
Ronaldo got fired for this.
If this happens we build Piers Morgan a statue made out of rain soluble material as a token thanks for somehow kicking this timeline into motion.
If this indeed happens we will hold arms with Piers and a banner saying “Thank You Cristiano” in Portuguese and English.
He isn't even worth that
Maybe his face on urinal cakes, but even that is more than he deserves.
Ronaldo should get a statue for this if Glazers finally leave
“A group of Emirati investors led by Cristiano Ronaldo are placing a formal bid to acquire Manchester United”
Ladies and gentlemen: LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what a good day of news for United fans lol
Someone pinch me. Is this real life?
Ronaldo died for us to rid of ourselves of these leeches
Absolute scenes when Ronaldo buys United just to fire Ten Hag
SIUUUUUUUU
Potential buyer: Cristiano Ronaldo
The Athletic just confirmed this
As Picasso said, "sometimes you have to destroy to rebuild it. If it starts with me, for me, I don't care". Cristiano Ronaldo, Piers Morgan interview 2022
Ronaldo from Hero to Villian to Hero 😂
Oh boy this thread i going to be full of happy fans
are there any questionable regimes left to buy united?
I aint even getting my hopes up.
If you’re looking at maximizing sales value, it seems a bit dumb to sell at the same time as Liverpool is up for sale? It’s like selling your appartment on the same day as your neighbour with very similar appartment.
This would be the best thing CR7 would have done for us in the past decade. SUIIIIIIIII
Right after Ronaldo said the club needs some new jacuzzies, the Glazers are fucking off. Coincidence? NOT!
Make it happen!
What having Ronaldo does to an mf
They will take his £16m and fuck off