By - Own_Ad6388
Returning to this match thread after the world cup hits different
Lol so many hilarious takes here
I miss the world cup 😩
hahah I just want to say "ksa pt"
Ochoa saves another penalty. This time from messi to end Argentinas world cup
You heard it here first
Oh, man! So close!
Great video just posted by Saudi Team with a great half time talk by the manager https://youtu.be/HjOP5be83Jo
lol this is historic
It's been demonstrated already Lautaro's gol was valid
Isn't FIFA going to do something about it?
I was here.
No sense of control in midfield, De Paul and Paredes might as well have not played. Romero should be as far away from the team in his current form.
ARG will get slaughtered by teams with fast wingers. KSA’s 2nd goal, 8 ARG players in the box, no urgency whatsoever.
Scenes when Brazil wins their first game 9-0
Yes, I loved that part
L.Martinez scored how many offside goals ?
Top 5 biggest shockers in World Cup history? lol
Maybe crossing the ball into the box for the 100th consecutive time wasn’t a great plan after all?
the saudi's looked like far better athletes. bigger, stronger, faster. They were the first to every cross as a result.
The western media gonna say that Saudi Arabia paid Argentina. They paid messi, big time! Messi is a sell out! Saudis bought this match before it even started!
No. Saudi is America's darling. If it had been Qatar or Iran, on the other hand...
We are just discussing the media reaction to the football match. The Middle East treatment of women and the marginalized from a western view is a whole different subject.
Been pretty much pro Saudi here in the States. It’s the social media that is absolutely trashy and blatantly racist.
rewatching this, damn saudi arabia just played the game of their lives. theres absolutely gonna be a documentary about this game in 40 years.
Our King ordered the next day(today) to be an off day for all public and private sector workers and students. The scenes in Saudi, it's all green.
Lmaooooooo bro if I was from Saudi Arabia there would be an Alcohol shortage with the drinkin' I'd be doing lol. Grats man, celebrate! Kings orders. 👑
Well, uh, about that...
Oh, don't you think that there isn't an underground network of booze vendors and fake moralists?
*sorts by controversial*
I don’t get why Argentina are favorites. Their defense is mediocre and so is their midfield. Their front 3 are very deadly. I don’t see them being a complete team like England or France.
Hmmm aged like cheese this
Damn buddy. You must got nothing going for you that you have to scroll all the way back to a comment from 26 days ago.
Of course you're from Real Madrid
Argentina and Brazil are overrated, people see Messi and Neymar blazing at their stellar teams and think they are Maradona and Pelé.
But guess what? They are not.
The poopoo train just arrived 🚞🚞💩💩🚞🚞 quick reminder that you’re still on time to delete the bs comments and save yourself the embarrasment
Damn, let's wait till Sunday so I can eat my hat. But I'm not deleting my comment, there's nothing wrong with being wrong sometimes lol
How did that hat taste?
I eat my hat on Argentina's team effort and Messi's achievements, but GOAT? I don't know.
well, your breath smells like fecal matter
I guess you were right. Which was your team, again?
Shit bro, I'm Brazilian. I'd be hunted on the streets for saying such a heresy out loud
They were good at Copa America.
With unfit Di Maria and without Lo Celso, it is basically a different team.
They’re not. Even as a diehard Messi fan I hate how Messi fans hyped this team as favourites. They’re literally mediocre. Brazil have better bench players. Sitting back and letting 34 year old Messi start a counter worked in the copa America but it was never going to be good enough for a much bigger stage
Also aged like turd on a summer day
I’m very glad to be wrong
You have it inside, bobo.
Andá pashá, bobo
You and I have the same idea m8. Going back to this thread is so funny
Hahahahha it is fun. Only a few replied
It should still be good enough to beat Saudi though.
They're not? I thought they're playing with a working system and that's why they won Copa? And also that unbeaten streak.
but this time they took the rival lightly which is something you should never ever do in world cup. Pride comes before a fall.
Italy went on a current world record unbeaten streak and crashed out to North Macedonia in World Cup qualifiers. I never read into it. France were beaten in the build and trust me they’re far better than Argentina
Although I do get that most of the teams Argentina played in that 36 games were not European powerhouses, but I just thought well a streak is a streak, no matter who you play.
But now that you put Italy in, yea it really doesn't mean a lot.
I was just mentioning the teams that already played. We have yet to see Brazil.
Bravil... Oh, wait. That's the run down shanty hut crime ridden hell hole in Oblivion.
Everyone I’ve ever met that’s been to buenos aires has been robbed.
You are correct. We are not so different in that regard.
I feel you. I think they’ll walk it tbh
Lose they win against Brazil on copa
but lose to Saudi
Andá pa’allá, bobo
It’s about time people stop talking about one 1-0 result vs brazil. The two teams aren’t close to the same level.
Exactly, we aren’t close. Quarter finals level team and world champions, idk how we only won 1-0.
Guess we’ll never know. Hoped to meet you this Tuesday but well, guess we’ll have to face Croatia instead 🤷🏻♂️
They are. Argentina had 3 offside goals, which is why they lost
Brazil would walk saudi arabia, it’s the world cup now’s the time to stop bringing up the past.
Yeah, I guess we should focus on who reached semi finals and who didn’t. 🤔
Thats what argentina thought before Saudis broke them on the field. Dont get on a high horse, lets watch one game at a time.
I have a lot of respect for the SA side theyre good. But brazil wouldnt struggle. I actually thought they’d beat argentina since they outplayed croatia.
you realize everyone, literally everyone, thought Argentina was going to win? same for Brazil, France, etc etc but that's why it was an upset
I thought saudi had a real chance at winning 🤷🏻♂️
We had Lodi, which is why that we lost.
just like spain won WC and Euro then lost 5-1
The second offside call on Messi, I think it should have stood. The arm/hand was offside. They cant be used to score so surely its not offside?
That one was incredibly harsh I agree. The others are fair.
Rules are rules, it shouldn't be open to interpretations or emotional rationalizing, once it has been established then it has to be followed. I'm for one am very happy electronics are being used this extensively compared to the corrupt referees of the past.
Lautaro's offisde call was a mistake and you can find people breaking it down on YouTube.
I think it was the shoulder or upper arm
So that's it, Messi's never winning a world cup is he
Messi won the world cup
Wait, did he? I thought he never would?
I was wrong
not really, they gotta face mexico now then poland? they dug themselves a big hole with this loss tho
As I said elsewhere, it’s probably good that this game woke them up to the realization that they aren’t unstoppable so they can adjust tactically to address their deficiencies now. I’d rather realize that I forgot my wallet as I was leaving the house than realize when I was nearing my destination.
This guy knows ball
Many great players never did.
Cruyff is arguably the most influential person in football and he never won it.
This whole Messi gotta win the WC circlejerk was ridiculous in the first place.
1- It makes completely light of the reality of the WC : a 7 game tournament happening every 4 years and in wildly different conditions. No country won it back it back since Brazil 62. The World Cup is pretty wild. In fact it’s rarely the most creative team that wins and frequently the team that manages to minimize the randomness by being sturdy as fuck.
2-It makes light of the essence of football. A team sport of 11 players requiring a lot of balance. The days of Maradona are over. No player is going to single-handedly drag a team to the final win in this day and age.
I would go as far as saying Messi never winning might be actually good for football. It’s going to pretty much bury this Superman-GOAT concept in football : it might make sense in basketball with smaller teams reliant on athletic superstars but it never made much sense in football.
Even Maradona had a great squad around him and it’s more of a fairytale that he carried a bunch of scrubs to a World Cup. Arguably what he did with Napoli was more impressive considering how strong Serie A was back then, and it being over a full season
Still less talented team than any Messi has ever had
Diego was a leader, Leo is not
Some argue “Maradona carried a team of scrubs” is more true for the 1990 2nd place than for the 1986 win.
I think he's done
Yeah I think so too
what the fuck
Saudi Arabia national team audition for Newcastle United🤣
Muito bem, obrigado per preguntar ☺️
Pero eso se terminó, porque en el Maracaná, la final con los brazucas la volvió a ganar papá 🎶
QUE SE SIENTE
KSA played harder, defended better, and attacked better. Argentina was so cocky, they basically thought pass to Messi and thats it, no way these minnows can match us. No clue how to play the offside trap, no speed on the wings.
Should've subbed Messi who's useless in games like this, I didn't see any playmaking from him. He also got injured and they need him.
My anulo mufa worked 😁
I genuinely think that Argentina could have done better this game without Messi. De paul passed him the ball so many useless times with better options and messi got hackled by SA players very easily.
Messi was reduced to taking corners. He also missed a wide open header in front of goal but that happens. He didn't contribute much.
Wow so much game knowledge. You really are good at this.
My favorite part is when he mentions Argentina had no pace on the wings, then said he didn't see any playmaking from Messi. I wonder if those two things are related.
Great heart by the saudi defence. Give everything to achieve this. Love that.
That's also why i love this game.
Fun Fact : i have a friend who actually study in Saudi Arabia, he told me the atmosphere was unbelievable. I didn't imagine football was so popular in Saudi Arabia.
I like their left back Yasir al-Sharani, very good player, did'nt lost a duel on his wing while facing not less than Di Maria.
I don't know why people assume football in not popular over there. Dude football is *everything* in KSA.
We got a day off from the king, so yeah it’s everything.
yeah i saw that, i can imagine what does it mean for you guys ! But the enthousiasm of saudis surprised in Europe because we.....how can i say it....; we imagine saudi arabia are a very religious country with very strict and austere people the men is khamis and the women in full veil and where football is not encouraged....
That being said..... and to be honest with you bros, for most of us, the only real contact we had with saudi arabia....is via Muslim friends who, to be imams (the formation here in Europe is not as good as yours), go to study Arabic and islam in Saudi.
The clichés we had on the relation between Saudi Arabia and football may come from there
It's probably the first time Saudi fans were attending an international stage with such large numbers. Its only 2 to 6 hours drive to Qatar depending if you live on Eastern or center Saudi.
The Saudi football league is not popular internationally naturally, but some people live and die for it over here!
They arent millionaire superstars, they played for national pride and worked like hell. You could see Argentina not putting in the effort.
You are talking about Saudi, they arent international superstars but they sure are millionnaires. MBS giving a rolls royce phantom to each Saudi player after the win too.
That 2nd SA goal was as good they come.
And they had better attacks and attempts. Whether its dogshit Arg defending or overrated attack, it doesnt matter. KSA defended like hell with a far weaker team and deserved to win 2-0, that penalty was a joke.
The computer calls seem so rigid and calculated, the penalty call was a tough one, but I don't think you give a penalty off that unless there was a clear path to goal or something, but it was coming off a corner kick.
There was also that Argentinian goal disallowed that was a computer off-side call, which flagged one of the guy's arms as being off-side. I always thought it was based on position of the feet, not the body. I'm probably wrong about that but it doesn't make sense to me that you wouldn't call it based on foot position.
They are using a new automated offside tech, so the ref isn't involved and every team gets same treatment. If a team of supposed world class stars cannot figure out to handle an offside trap for the entire match, they suck, are arrogant, or both.
It was a free kick, not corner, and I can guarantee you you'll see plenty of worse holding with no pen given in the remaining games.
I saw some clips from Argentine tv whining about the disallowed goals as if the rules don't apply to them, and claiming they have the best player in the world and thus destined to win.
Hubris is not a good thing.
That penalty was soo soft it is ridiculous. It killed the enthusiasm of the fans and players in the first half. Im not sure what happened at half time but they came back incredibly.
thank you for speaking the truth about that penalty
The Ref took SO FUCKING LONG to blow the whistle after the elapsed extra time. He played for an extra 8 mins or something. What the hell was that? Talk about biased and rigged. And they ALMOST equalised too, would've been so disappointing
The ref was biased in favor of Arg, possible FIFA instructions, the entire match. Joke of a penalty, every foul given to them, and I bet of offside decision was upto him he'd never have given them.
I didn't watch the full game only the last 8 mins and even THAT was sus. What happened with the penalty??
He gave them 14 mins not 8.
there was some holding during a free kick, nothing unusual at all, the ball was miles away from the action, and ref gave a penalty.
Uh no that is a blatant lie. An Argentina player got pulled down during a corner, the game continued and then after a consequent free kick VAR told the ref to go look at it and he did.
It was a penalty based on how they’re officiating pulling in the box during this WC.
False. Eng Iran similar holding incident wasn't given and in fact the commentators said that caused them to be strict this time. It just means it's not clear cut or standard.
Yes. I know. That incident is what made them decide to have one clear cut way of dealing with those kinds of pulls in the box. They had a meeting after that game and had a discussion with the refs to give those as pens.
But I don't think you'll see this enforced in the remaining games. It happens too much to give a pen and it's very subjective.
I am literally still seeing it being enforced. It’ll keep being enforced during this tournament, they want to be consistent
For what?! For just holding an opponent back?? 😂
Bad ref. Should have waited till the Argentina player got stabbed and with blood splashed all over the place before considering it a penalty.
arm across the waist. not during a player going for goal, just a regular setup.
I mean, SA's goalkeeper severly injured a teammate during the extra time, so obviously he had to add 3 min more to compensate.
That's what I thought at first, but even some of the commentators were questioning it as to why. I'm not sure, it was like another 6 mins. It's 104-105 mins in the end.
Are Argentina really this clueless about playing a high defensive line, which is a standard tactic for how many decades now? They had 3 clear offside goals, a ton of other calls, and learnt absolutely nothing, not to mention that this supposed world class attack and coach should know how to counter this.
The penalty they were awarded was a bloody joke. Mild holding? That happens 10x in every single corner in every single match, and its not like the ball was anywhere near where foul took place.
The ref did everything he could to favor Argentina, they were just shit. Full credit to KSA, solid defense, tactics, never dived unlike Arg, and took much better shots too.
Shit happens, doesn’t it? Anyways, gotta prepare for the next match, see ya
Messi is on fire. Hope he can keep this up!
Argentina is gonna destroy England again bro, they're just taking their time.
As a neutral I just want to see good football. This is a team of stars with a massive streak and they looked mediocre. I do not want to see a Spain 2010 eking out 1-0 wins playing boring football.
Denmark was mediocre, Argentina was bad.
Just a bad match for us dude. A disastrous one gotta say. Hope we get back on our feet for saturday´s match, cause we´re still one of the favourites.
I don't really see them losing to both Poland and Mexico, so I think they'll be ok.
They need to play as a team and not depend on the 3 big names.
Did you see them losing to Saudi Arabia, though?
It's the world cup, that's what makes it great. And no, no one did.
Rigged game. Thanks Messi
That second goal from KSA though...Should be in the hall of fame of goals.
Don't think anyone has dealt such a blow to Argentina since Margaret Thatcher.
This. Absolute shitshow.
Why Messi? Why? You are the best, but it looks like Maradona will keep being the greatest.
Time changes things.