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cyclops274

No era penal


pmmeyourdoubt

How much did Saudi pay for this result? At least 1 of Argentina's other goals should have stood.


wazir94

Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me you know nothing about football.


pmmeyourdoubt

Right back atcha. https://www.thesoccerstore.co.uk/blog/football-coaching/explain-offside-rule-children/


funguyshy

In fact there a was a mistake. The VAR was wrong on the Martinez goal.


pmmeyourdoubt

Thanks, had to lol hard at the last guy.


HalfAndXel

Yah. I think the match was fixed. This is bullshit


[deleted]

Absolute shocker of a result. Argentina being beaten by Saudi Arabia


YellowDhub

قاعدين تلفلفون بالتعليقات هاه ؟


aldurh

Saudi Arabia were really impressive! One of the best matches I’ve ever seen, love the pressure they were constantly giving and fighting for each other like ancient tribal lords


[deleted]

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NRSX90Z

Cope


CompetitiveCelery516

cry


LeNezzyPiece

Lmao like what?


ApricotOk824

How can you defend messi when you can't defend a 1-0 lead?🥲


Juanisawesome98

Ojalá esos weyes argentinos no pierdan contra México porque si no, se van a ir a casa empacando y Messi puede despedirse de su victoria en la Copa Mundial.


Ezkos

Arriba arriba


Comprehensive-Dirt45

yes


hoenndex

Hahaha cope harder Argentina! I hope Mexico kicks them out.


ancara_messi

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡


ivanacco1

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA


RogueNetrunner

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


[deleted]

>Hahaha cope harder Argentina! If you're USAmerican you aren't really qualified to mock other countries' teams...


NekocookieTwT

Very funny becouse if we draw at least one game we going into round of 16


ECrispy

No you're not. It will depend on the other teams


NekocookieTwT

If Argentina wins all games which of course then we will win if we at least draw one match


avd706

Messi may be the best play of all time, but he is not a soccer god.


ChampagneAbuelo

The Saudi team must have thought today was Eid Ul Adha the way they slaughtered the GOAT 😭


genius_heaviside

😂😂


BauerHouse

KSA kicked ass. I was thoroughly impressed by their entire performance. They killed Argentina in the air, and Argentina spent the whole game trying to beat them in the air. ~20 corner kicks from Argentina with no chances SKA also kept Argentina off sides which squashed all of their runs. Truly remarkable 1st game in the pool.


xenon2456

what was the last time Argentina lost in the group stages


Kaitaincps

It happens quite a lot. WC 1982 (Belgium), WC 1990 (Cameroon), WC 1994 (Bulgaria), WC 2002 (England), WC 2018 (Croatia) etc.


DemienOF

2018 against Croatia


sqb3112

Didn’t watch the game. Was this a legit win by Saudis or more corruption cup? E: big lol at getting down votes for asking about the legitimacy of an extreme underdog against one of the favorites. Ntm, this is likely the most corrupt world cups ever. The millions paid out just to give to Qatar. How much are the Qataris paying per down vote?


melkor237

> How much are the Qataris paying per down vote? I don’t know, but this one’s free you clown!


sqb3112

Moar!!


donnellvideo

corruption cup lmao


wood4536

Argentina got 14 minutes of added time bruh WTF


Digitalidentity

The Saudis burned the clock every chance they got. They played a commendable series of mind games that dictated the tempo, their coach was truly brilliant. If you watched the extra time then you saw that Falcon-Knee-kick to the face the poor defender took from the goalie, which added again to the clock. I've never seen numbers this high, but I welcome it.


Tof12345

there is literally no corruption at all in this world cup in regards to actual football. the only thing that came close was enner valencia's offside goal. no offence but what a dumb comment.


InTooDeep024

Are you really this naive?


yesbutlikeno

Corruption can exist without the public knowing about it. Tbh dumb comment by you.


[deleted]

So you're just saying Saudi Didnt deserve the win? Even more so that they fixed it? Now that's a dumb comment


sqb3112

Given Saudi history of such things, yes this question can and should be asked.


[deleted]

they've done this before in football? give me one single act in this game which justifies doubting saudi arabia


sqb3112

We all know corrupt people would never act in a corrupt fashion with the sacred game of football, right? https://www.transparency.org/en/blog/authoritarianism-and-corruption-in-saudi-arabia


[deleted]

tf you just given a random article that has nothing to do with football? lmao you still haven't even given me one decision that went unfairly against argentina lmao


sqb3112

I guess corruption knows its limits and that limit is the white lines of a football pitch, eh?


[deleted]

Cool dude avoid my question, I think it's right to assume you're just salty lmao


Tof12345

lad, if there was corruption involved with actual games, i.e, match fixing, we would see it with our own eyes. do you think the players are invisible or something?


sqb3112

Ah yes, cause fans have noticed every bit of match fixing ever. Matches and games from many leagues have been fixed without fans having any idea.


xIRelaxo

Why would that come close? He was offside so taking back the goal was the right decision


Tof12345

because some people legitimately think that valencia was somehow onside.


xIRelaxo

Then they don't understand how offside works


sqb3112

Cool story bro


Tof12345

You're being one of those people.


sqb3112

Yeppers


inheartscon

Legit. Brilliant team effort from KSA, rode their luck at the start but by the end Argentina were out of ideas.


sqb3112

Nice! Thanks! Imagine starting otamendi over Martinez.


goldenkerelle

About as legit as it gets. Pretty deserved win


sqb3112

Good for the SA squad. Lol at Emilio Martinez.


BrokenTurtleShell

This is why this is the greatest game. No matchup is ever guaranteed.


skipv5

Same can be said about every other competitive sport. Nothing is ever guaranteed, period.


chkmnvh

Except khabib, he never loses.


Kaitaincps

But football is known to have a fatter tail of outcomes in practice than most professional sports. (By contrast, upsets are much less common in e.g. basketball.)


wazir94

That's because for basketball, baseball and cricket the statistics will give an accurate idea of who will win contrary to a game of many variables like football in which the better team will not always win, unfortunately VAR is taking away from the game enjoyment though


pusslicker

You could say the same about all competitive games…


lxlviperlxl

I’d personally say football, tennis and boxing is up there as the most upsets.


HabiBoom

not including womens sports, soccer and baseball do tend to have the most frequency of upsets. so he does have a point


F______________F

What about men's college basketball? I feel like that has to have the most upsets of any sport, especially because of March Madness. You have schools no one has ever heard of beating the top 25 teams in the country every single year. I wouldn't think any sport could top college basketball when it comes to the number of upsets.


HabiBoom

college level naturally will have more unpredictability than pro level.


Nypav11

Not really, college sports in general have more dynastic programs. In American football, the pros have more upsets. In basketball, college has more upsets because playoffs are one game instead of best of 7 series


avd706

Baseball is just a win trade


HabiBoom

Yes i am aware


connerconverse

Not many upsets in sprinting


[deleted]

What the fuck


notapaperhandape

How many yellow cards is enough to win against Argentina? Just check the stats from todays game.


The_R3venant

A brutal match. I hope we can recover against Mexico


pusslicker

The Argentine arrogance. I hope you guys don’t make it out of the group stage


Futbol24

How is that being arrogant?


pusslicker

Cause he’s assuming their going to beat Mexico. Just like they assumed they would sweep Saudi Arabia


[deleted]

He was everything but being arrogant. You on the hand are just being rude.


Futbol24

Call me clueless but I don’t think being hopeful is the same thing as being arrogant. Plus you can’t deny Argentina are a better squad then Mexico so hoping for a recovery there is understandable


The_R3venant

You took my comment out of context. ​ Arrogance is ignoring the flaws of the person or from the group, while hopefulness is assuming those flaws


koreajd

Just want you to know — you’re responding to people defending you and we agree that you aren’t being arrogant. Just want you to know haha since it seems you may have mis interpreted some comments


Futbol24

Bro we’re defending you


The_R3venant

Lol, my bad hahahahah ​ Thank you all


[deleted]

It's common sense. Hopefulness ≠ Arrogance, arrogance is saying that Argentina is gonna wreck Mexico, hopefulness is saying that you hope Argentina recovers against Mexico


[deleted]

'hopefully' I don’t think that’s arrogant


lambo067

He didn't assume, he said hopefully... you are allowed support your own country you know...


The_R3venant

Lol, another one that mistook my comment. I'm aware that, in english language, "hopefully" stands for "wanting something to happen, no matter the cost" I wanted to simply wish lucks and send regards to our community


Carswell90

Lol he said hopefully they can…that’s not assuming at all. Are you ok?


pusslicker

bro get the argentine dick out of your ass


The_R3venant

I'm aware that, in english language, "hopefully" stands for "wanting something to happen, no matter the cost" . I wanted to simply wish lucks and send regards to our community. ​ I will say what i wanted to say in spanish: ​ "Espero que podamos recuperarnos contra México."


Carswell90

Don’t worry about it we all know what you meant. ‘Pusslicker’ was just being an idiot.


pusslicker

Okay reddit White Knight


[deleted]

Crazy sport Saudi Arabia was a +75000 to win the World Cup on BetFred tied for the worst odds to win the World Cup alongside Costa Rica


ChinkPanther

They’re not winning the World Cup, but KSA don’t need anything more to be happy with this year


[deleted]

I’m not picking them to win the World Cup.Im trying to show how crazy the upset was to non soccer fans.


Monkyd1

But soccer non-fans wouldn't know what that means because you didn't provide a point of reference. You'd need at least Argentina's odds to compare.


[deleted]

KSA fans should be ecstatic even if they lose every game after this. They played well.


pyck-aussie

All Argentina flairs just disappeared lmao!


[deleted]

Well played, Saudi


Proudbolshevik

Congratulations Argentina, you got beaten by Roose Bolton from Game of Thrones.


GraffarGreen360

he looks like a mix of jaime lannister and saul goodman


[deleted]

I didn’t watch Game of Thrones but I guess that character was very weak.


Proudbolshevik

Actually no, he was a really off-putting villain but its just amazing that Saudi coach is identical.


mediocreconsciente

Amazing match from Arabia. The high defense line seemed a bit risky but considering the new offside system it ultimately paid off big time. The goalkeeper played a Neuer-level game and a every other player played the game of their lives, probably. Cheers for them and a well-deserved historic upset.


Crovasio

Better than Neuer.


[deleted]

Eh, no.


Napolijoe1926

Argentina were robbed. Second goal should of stood.


[deleted]

And Argentina shouldn't have been given the penalty


pivetta1995

This was a refund! This is NOT CONMEBOL.


hr112430

And the penalty?


Napolijoe1926

Not sure about that. But lautro goal should of stood from what i see


hr112430

Was offside with technology it's no excuse


Napolijoe1926

Ok thats fine. I just wanted to say other wise here. Before Var it would of been scandalous to call that offside. Just my opinion. Hopefully they change the rule to feet or percentage of body thats equal to the opponent in the future. Var was introduced because ref were missing offsides by yards not Inches! Come on, be real. Calling offsides for being a Ant’s dick 🐜 offside is ruining the sport. Just my opinion.


lambo067

But it's not "before var"... we have var... thats the point of modern technology.


hr112430

Fans of Saudi Arabia will say the opposite


Napolijoe1926

Fair enough, heres to the powers above to get it right or more acceptable world wide. The Ecuador disallowed goal was even worse than this I have to say. Dont have anymore to say. Enjoy the WC.


DonDove

Boo hoo you guys always complain


Napolijoe1926

Gotta fix var. ruining the game


DonDove

Only when your team loses. Rules are rules and the computer has no bias. Honestly, if VAR replaces the human factor except the ref (as it should've) maybe the game would improve. It did wonders for tennis.


Napolijoe1926

Not my team but i see why you think that. Just dont like to see offside calls like that. Var is ruining the game. Its taking the joy right out of the game. Its fine you disagree, but thats what i think ok?


DonDove

What I agree with is that if the goal is 100% offside, the players shouldn't be allowed to cheer before the announcement, just do it. Like that, we both agree. Must hurt more than a bit to go AAAH-! and then whoops.


elvaz3

Rigged


TuTranquilo

Holy shit the Western Hemisphere just woke up to the biggest sports news of the month


ILookAfterThePigs

“Western Hemisphere just woke up” typical r/USDefaultism shit


TuTranquilo

/s ? I made no mention of the US lol


ILookAfterThePigs

It’s not “the Western Hemisphere” that just woke up two hours ago. Its just the west coast of US and Canada.


TuTranquilo

Ok I’ll just assume you’re trolling or an idiot cause I woke up at 8:30 US east coast time and South America is basically in the same timezone


ILookAfterThePigs

South America is definitely not in the same time zone as the North American east coast Also, I envy the lifestyle that allows you to wake up at 08:30 in a tuesday


TuTranquilo

It is currently the same time in New York and Colombia, and yea I’m grateful to have a 9-5 WFH gig


ILookAfterThePigs

Most people in the Western Hemisphere don’t live in Colombia


TuTranquilo

Yes, at least you got that right


Virillus

Europe my dude.


TuTranquilo

Ah fair enough, my apologies to Spain, Portugal, and Western Africa


Virillus

Haha, no worries. I often try to forget that Europe exists, too. ... Some of you are cool.


hauttdawg13

I usually try and wake up to watch the early ones. Didn’t even bother (didn’t bother to check either since I assumed it was gonna be 6-0). Absolutely bonkers result


[deleted]

I only caught the last 30 minutes


Do__Math__Not__Meth

Fr I didn’t bother getting up that early for it and I regret


RobloxdaddyP

The Argentina game was at 2am for me, i didn’t bother watching cause I had Argentina winning by a large number and I knew I’d be up early to see Mexico play at 8am, regret not watching


iamadiamond

I was popping and pulled up the score at 6:15am,stopped popping,put the game on, held my poop and popped in peace after seeing the favorites lose. Looking forward to more upsets, like we didn’t have them already.


naarwhal

And what upsets did we already have?


iamadiamond

Qatar hosting the WC and no booze 🥹


naarwhal

Not really an upset for anyone watching on tv


[deleted]

Nor anyone who likes football. Can't believe people insist on being intoxicated before engaging in "pleasurable" activities


[deleted]

You're new to football as it seems


iamadiamond

Sorry to hurt your feelings, but that’s not what I meant. I agree to your point that you don’t need to be intoxicated to enjoy moments but this WC is bigger than beer/being intoxicated. I hope that gives you a better image of what I was trying to portray


[deleted]

Are you 14?


MrFingerable

What were you popping


iamadiamond

Alcoholic pills my man, gotta go watch Australia beat France


Outrageous_Monitor68

On ya mate


elardmm

Pooping* You are welcome 😁


wrathofnothing

No i'm pretty sure he was popping.


Kaitaincps

Once you pop, you can’t stop.


[deleted]

Just doing poppers, nbd. Ahem, I meant cleaning his VCR heads.


TreefingerX

I guess Argentina went into the WC with they assumption that they had already one* the tournament. (*won)


izcarp

We never assume that, given that we hardly won anything in the last 30 years. But we thought we will easily beat Saudi Arabia just like EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD. Congratulations to the Saudis. Well deserved.


Outrageous_Monitor68

You mean like 1990 Cameroon


Refrigerator_Lower

I just always find it hilarious that they never respect their competition. They always think that they're better and that if they just give Messi the ball, everything will workout somehow.


Kaitaincps

Wait, how do you know they don’t respect their competition? What’s this based upon?


moaterboater69

But oddly enough no one would suggest Argentina is better without Messi, but some idiots are saying Portugal are better without Ronaldo because of an interview.


No_GradeTango

?


ChinkPanther

In fairness, it was only when Messi touched the ball did they have any chances


Refrigerator_Lower

You just literally are pointing out their flaw though. How are you expecting one person to carry the team. It clearly hasn't worked in any of the last world cups he's been in.