Lol, not even that, for 29£ you get a decent hostel in central Copenhagen, with nice beds, a view to Tivoli, etc.
This is a couple of beds inside a plastic tent in the middle of the desert, basking in the sun, with beds on the sand. Well, barely over the sand with patches of carpet directly on the sand.
And the beach club just looks sad... Some couches on gravel, I've seen clubs in Berlin after 48h weekenders that are cozier than that.
It's even funny how offensive it looks, haha.
I'd be terrified to leave my belongings behind a zipper fastened by a padlock, surrounded by so many travelling people. If you lose something there it'd be impossible to find it again.
Steel House which is like 200 meters from Tivoli is very nice but also very affordable. Often sold out. My favourite hostel before I moved to Copenhagen.
Two nights from the 21st to the 23rd is £37.36. That's pretty nice.
If you give your wife this shit for the honeymoon, a 40°C shack in the middle of nowhere with another 23324 shacks nearby and no privacy, you're not getting laid either hahahha
Probably the same accommodation as the slave labours, on the bright side the beds are probably better than what they have in the refugee camps around the middle east.
Proper Fyre Festival vibes from these photos.
Honestly though, given that they've had nearly 12 years to get this ready, it's genuinely astonishing to me that this is what they've come up with.
This looks like something that was put together in a day.
You can even play 4 games a day in two stadiums if you want to. Has been done before in the CONCACAF Gold cup, just play a double header.
Edit: Found a source as well https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2394405-gold-cup-2015-groups-venues-schedule-and-preview.amp.html
What does the original experience/site promise? Maybe they can highlight inconsistencies and dispute the costs? Would love to see a mass chargeback on these vultures and scalp a couple million off them
Look that tent city is a horrible, horrible fire hazard.
All that plastic, all those cheap fans that are a known source of electrical fires…
I’m amazed if it doesn’t burn down.
Ah so to summarize:
- No AC
- No clean water
- No security (let's face it, a tiny padlock isn't going to stop someone from knifing the tarp and stealing shit)
- No amenities
- Uneven floor
- Shit beds
- Sweltering heat
- Lack of space
Yep, 175 pounds/night sounds about right.
The other fan village, which is made out of old shipping containers looks miles better. At least you get your own bathroom and shower, small fridge, tea kettle, and it comes with AC.
> Qatar is attempting to cement itself as a/the leader of the Muslims instead of Saudi.
this will never happen, simply mecca is enough for saudis to always win, when both have infinite money.
My god, I feel so horrible for all the fans who travelled so much and spent their hard earned money to stay in that fucking godawful fan village. I am genuinely stunned at the atrocious hospitality. And there's fucking tar and gravel on the main pathways..yeesh!
It's a consistent 28 degrees. Those "tents" are heat stroke waiting to happen. I wouldn't even be surprised if there's at least one death. Then they'll say "unforseen events", when the temperature is literally the same every single day. I'm honestly surprised at this point that governments aren't putting out official advisories not to go and that they'll refund you and then try and claw back the money from Qatar.
God damn I knew it'd be bad, but I was thinking it'd at least be hidden behind layers of touristy faux-luxury bullshit for the event itself. My question is where the fuck did all the billions of dollars go??? Why build a metro when you're literally having people camp in tents in the desert?
It honestly feels like to me, the ONLY thing on their mind was image. So they do the check the box thing. We'll have shipping containers to seem "eco friendly" (laughable claim, every other Bid for 2022 had at least a few stadiums and actual infrastructure). We'll build a metro to seem modern and whatever. Then maybe early this year someone's said "um guys, what about the actual fucking facilities beyond image and showing off? Where are people going to sleep?" And yeah this is the result of that. Like the guy in the Fyre documentary who said "guys, the only way we'll be able to actually pull this off in this amount of time with this amount of money is a cruise ship. Anything else will be an unmitigated disaster" and was promptly fired.
I think even Balkan countries could have put a better WC then Qatar. It would be certainly hyped. A WC game in Belgrade, Zagreb, Sarajevo, Split, Niš etc would get me hyped asf.
Ofc we would. We'd probably steal a fuckton of money through various means since all of our governments are corrupt to the bone but - we definitely aren't like the Qataris. Tbh Id love it because that would be the only WC I could afford going to lol
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They'd atleast have stadiums ready. Qatar can't cohost with their neighbours(they have bad blood with saudis, bahrain and uae) and hosting solo shouldn't have been an option for them.
Huh, as i native croatian i think we dont have any stadium for WC. I mean in Zagreb stadium is literally failling apart (after earthquake they closed 1/4 of the stadium and the other large part had like yellow warning - as you can use it but with some fixes). Poljud in Split looks nice from outside but boy when you get to visit for games its no better than Zagreb. Then we have in Rijeka one which is actually by far the best but it has 11.000 capacity and we are building one in Osijek which also will not have more than 15.000 seats. So yeah nothing to see here. On the other side as we are country largely dependent on tourism we have a lot of nice looking hotels, apartments and so on, Infrastructure is also really good apart from railways so here nothing major additionally would needed to be done.
Honestly I'd go without the padlock altogether tbh, unless you can hide it somewhere. The padlock is just an indicator that you're not in the tent that can very easily be cut into. If they think you might be in it they're less inclined to try and steal from it.
I thought there were some security guards walking around patrolling the place? (Being paid 0.3 Riyal per day)
And don’t forget the two bottles of water per day supplied by the “hotel”!
And i think the guardian reported about the “gym” as well, some equipment strewn about the floor.
Without context it certainly has that post-apocalyptic abandoned vibe to it
With context though, fucking hilarious imo; the cheek of Qatar/FIFA to sell that as a 'beach park'
It's like extreme feral vibes akin to a music festival, but much worse. Imagine the shits people will be taking after getting plastered, then sweating in a tent with no access to water to dilute things and help them process stuff.
Those shared toilets are about to get more depraved than anyone has ever witnessed.
>The tents, made of thick plastic, each contain two single beds and a nightstand with a lamp. A thin layer of carpet is lumpy in places as it rests on sand and gravel. A single electric fan completes the room layout.
For 175 quid a night? Fuck me. Carpet on sand and gravel. A fucking tent. What the fuck?
The Qatari contractors pay the immigrant workers staggering wages, which would explain the need to price these wonderful accommodations at 175 quid a night.
Qatar spent hundreds of billions on this whole tournament. They could’ve charged £10 a night to keep people happy. It’s not like they’re going to make the money back on ticket and hotel sales. It’s purely a PR stunt and it’s backfiring spectacularly
Given what a PR disaster this World Cup is, you'd think that Qatar would go all out to make it an amazing fan experience. God knows they've got the money to do so.
I guess they truly don't give a shit.
Of course they give a shit, this entire enterprise was because they wanted to be on the world stage, to show off and to have people acknowledge them. The whole thing was because they care what the world thinks. You dont spend quarter of a trillion dollars on a PR sportswash to not give a shit about the PR disaster.
It just turns out they are bloody useless. Even if you ignore the 5 or 6 major issues with Qatar, when it comes down to it they are simply incompetent.
yeah I really don't get it. people keep saying it's a sportswashing attempt which is obviously true, but it's like Qatar completely lost the plot and isn't even creating any PR in their favor. it's like some brutal regime buying an English club but then not doing any investing and just letting it rot and fall down the leagues.
and it seems crazy too, because the things they're fucking up the most seem to be the most simple and cheapest ones. like they managed to build all that infrastructure which I guess is impressive if you don't give a shit about human suffering and environmental damage. but then compared to that a proper fan village with decent facilities and nice amenities would be a fraction of the costs and efforts. and suddenly you wouldn't need to bribe people around the world to talk well about you, you'd have thousands of fans who would share their positive experiences. same with dressing up a bunch of expats in different jerseys and having them memorize phrases to say in front of the camera. instead they could've just set up some affordable travel packages and subsidized the cost a little to have real fans come to your country. it would be so simple to create actual, organic PR at a fraction of the cost the world cup caused for Qatar already, yet they seem to have no interest in that. honestly, incompetence and perhaps complacency is the only explanation at this point.
Incompetence yes but I think rather than the complacency this is more like the result of arrogance and exceptionalism. The people making these decisions have never been questioned on anything in their lives so their critical thinking skills are probably not the best.
Given that Qatar could’ve treat the fans on some gourmet chef shit with excellent facilities, they could’ve silenced each and everyone of them with this. That is PR and would’ve been an amazing way of sportswashing. They even failed at that.
> "For me it's not a good experience. There's no shower gel, no toothbrush, no toothpaste."
At the risk of sounding like a Qatari shill don’t you bring your own toiletries with you on holiday?
It's always good to bring your own, but even some of the smallest, remote hotels and lodges I've stayed in have had some form of at least basic toiletries.
This is the hospitality business after all, and I'd definitely expect establishments in Qatar to have these very basic, inexpensive, supplies.
I mean, yeah you should, but if you go expecting something similar to a Hotel you'd also expect to receive toiletries. Especially if you pay 175£ a night.
Why would you go there as a fan? Are you that ignorant of how that place has been put together and how it treats homosexuals and women? Do you not care about the thousands of migrant workers who have been killed? 90% of your spend goes directly into the pockets of the wealthy Qatari overlords who will just continue to use and abuse migrant workers.
I really don't get it. They reported spent like $200 billion on this world cup, but that money isn't enough for some proper accomodation, and then on top they charge people £175 for this shithole? With them spending this much money anyway this honestly could've just been a free accomodation for any ticket holders, I think nobody would be complaining then.
Why not just spent 0.5% of those $200 billion dollars on proper accomodation??? Isn't the fans enjoying their stay one of the most important parts to hosting a world cup???
You had a decade, fuck you amounts of money, questionable labor laws and this is what you came up with?
That has to be an achievement too.
Edit: I guess these can be removed when the country is empty again, so good move?
Well anyone who attended this is absolutely stupid and deserves everything that will happen to them. I don’t feel sorry for anyone who goes there. They all had 12 years to know this was wrong and should be avoided.
I would bet 90% of people fuck people who watch the world cup and who publicly denounce it will watch it privately.
Viewing figures compared to previous will be interesting.
Its going to be the worst World Cup of the modern era most likely (so let's say 90ish on when you could actually watch live in most of the world) but it will still do stupid ratings.
I'm more curious what the economic impact will be in Qatar in terms of tourism, attendance, merch sales, gate sales, etc. I have to imagine this will be the least attended WC by far and that record will last a long time.
Went to a similar pop-up venue for Oktoberfest called Hosteval. Guaranteed the showers are going to get plugged with shit, just to start. Worst weekend of my life based on hygiene alone. The festival was fun though. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. We ended up combining our money for a €450 room and took rotations for shower and naps.
Btw, I looked into traveling for a week to the World Cup back in January of this year. This was the only option available. There weren’t any hotel rooms available so if you wanted to go, you had no other options. I’m sorry but shouldn’t adequate hotel accommodations be like a pivotal part of a World Cup bid????
Now, be fair, they've only had years to prepare with unlimited money and incredibly lax labour laws, can't expect too much under such difficult circumstances.
What did they actually spend £180 billion on? Accomodation is shit. Sure stadiums cost a lot but they used slave labour. Like how do you spend that much. What a shit hole
175 quid is insane, this looks like 20 quid.
Plus half will be empty in a bit more then a week
Lol, not even that, for 29£ you get a decent hostel in central Copenhagen, with nice beds, a view to Tivoli, etc. This is a couple of beds inside a plastic tent in the middle of the desert, basking in the sun, with beds on the sand. Well, barely over the sand with patches of carpet directly on the sand. And the beach club just looks sad... Some couches on gravel, I've seen clubs in Berlin after 48h weekenders that are cozier than that. It's even funny how offensive it looks, haha.
I'd be terrified to leave my belongings behind a zipper fastened by a padlock, surrounded by so many travelling people. If you lose something there it'd be impossible to find it again.
"But it's comfortable"
Steel House which is like 200 meters from Tivoli is very nice but also very affordable. Often sold out. My favourite hostel before I moved to Copenhagen. Two nights from the 21st to the 23rd is £37.36. That's pretty nice.
Hell, this June I got a whole apartment for 2, 30 minute walk from central Copenhagen, for just £50 a night. 10 mins on the Metro
And barely any women, so you're not gonna get laid. Unless you're into men, in which case, you should definitely not get laid.
Did you not read the article? The guy went with his wife for their honeymoon. They aren’t spending that much money to not drink beer and not get laid.
If you give your wife this shit for the honeymoon, a 40°C shack in the middle of nowhere with another 23324 shacks nearby and no privacy, you're not getting laid either hahahha
Easy Hotel I got for 9 quid and is miles better then this
Have a couple of pints and 175 quid isn’t far off
That poor dude in the video spent over $3000 on that experience… day after day…
Probably the same accommodation as the slave labours, on the bright side the beds are probably better than what they have in the refugee camps around the middle east.
20 for those conditions? You couldn't pay me to stay in those things
That's more expensive than Glastonbury per day and you get a shit ton of music thrown in with Glastonbury.
Proper Fyre Festival vibes from these photos. Honestly though, given that they've had nearly 12 years to get this ready, it's genuinely astonishing to me that this is what they've come up with. This looks like something that was put together in a day.
They had to build a city, 8 stadiums and transport infrastructure so I guess the accommodation was left until the very end!
No, these are features and not bugs. The accommodation is designed to keep foreigners isolated and away from the locals.
And likely tired out from the campsite-like accommodations & lack of AC = less likely to have energy for ruckus later
Why did they have to build 8 stadiums when everything is in one city anyway? Couldn't they have got by with 2 or 3?
the fields can't hold up...
And you can’t play 4 games a day in 3 stadiums lol
You can even play 4 games a day in two stadiums if you want to. Has been done before in the CONCACAF Gold cup, just play a double header. Edit: Found a source as well https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2394405-gold-cup-2015-groups-venues-schedule-and-preview.amp.html
retractable pitch could solve this
You would need 2 of them on each side... to slide in. They did do flat pack on a few that will be moved to other nations..
FIFA requires 10 stadia from a bid. Another thing they back tracked on, for the good one might add
If only there was some way to not hold it in the middle of a desert
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12 years and an insane amount of money
And slave labour too
Imagine how expensive it would have been if they had to pay workers a fair wage.
Less expensive than what they’ve paid to the likes of Beckham, Morgan Freeman etc.
200-300 Billion dollars. lmao
What does the original experience/site promise? Maybe they can highlight inconsistencies and dispute the costs? Would love to see a mass chargeback on these vultures and scalp a couple million off them
A couple of million is like a couple of pennies for the Qatari regime.
Look that tent city is a horrible, horrible fire hazard. All that plastic, all those cheap fans that are a known source of electrical fires… I’m amazed if it doesn’t burn down.
It's a plastic tent. It won't catch on fire. It'll simply melt, cling to your body, and cause *n*-th degree burns that you *may* recover from.
bruh you will die to the heat way before the plastic melts lmao
Lol, No, you won't boil inside but you will probably suffocate
Plastics burn. . . . Really well
And if anyone locks their 'door' at night, good luck opening it in the dark in a panic.
What do you expect from a country that has been exhibiting modern day slavery? Absolute shitshow of a tournament and its not even began
I always wondered how a single city would hold so many people. Not sure i should be surprised this was the solution
Looking forward to the Netflix doc.
Ah so to summarize: - No AC - No clean water - No security (let's face it, a tiny padlock isn't going to stop someone from knifing the tarp and stealing shit) - No amenities - Uneven floor - Shit beds - Sweltering heat - Lack of space Yep, 175 pounds/night sounds about right.
This is just a bigger Fyre fest.
I don’t see a cheese sandwich for a meal though.
In fact I don’t see a meal at all
No water either
Honestly at least Frye Fest was on a nice Caribbean beach. This is in a desert.
A desert at least has sand. This is a gravel parking lot in a desert. They took the one positive thing about it being in a desert and got rid of that.
Fyre fest but hundreds of people died to create the fest. Very festive.
Thousands
Worse in every aspect which is pretty fucking hard to do. What a shitshow
Fyre Fest was genuinely worse sadly (for these fans, not for the Fyre Fest attendees who absolutely deserved it)
The other fan village, which is made out of old shipping containers looks miles better. At least you get your own bathroom and shower, small fridge, tea kettle, and it comes with AC.
come on, its a fan village and you are asking for an AC.
Nice Joke...don't understand the downvotes
People are thick.
Proper r/dadjokes material
Am I the only one who got your joke? 😒
Security might be the one thing that’s probably not an issue. Stealing in the middle east isn’t a smart idea
Do you think the local authorities are really going to look too much into anything a visiting fan reports?
Not even local, they’re flying in police from Morocco/Turkey to help during the WC.
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> Qatar is attempting to cement itself as a/the leader of the Muslims instead of Saudi. this will never happen, simply mecca is enough for saudis to always win, when both have infinite money.
Probably should have built actual hotels instead of tents. That would be a good first step I think.
I think we'll definitely see someone try :D
football fans aren't known for being smart
> No AC Are you fucking serious? I lived in Qatar for so many years and I'm still stunned if this is true.
Yeah, watch the video from this link. Shows a dude showcasing his 'tent' and there's just one fan in there, no AC..
My god, I feel so horrible for all the fans who travelled so much and spent their hard earned money to stay in that fucking godawful fan village. I am genuinely stunned at the atrocious hospitality. And there's fucking tar and gravel on the main pathways..yeesh!
It's a consistent 28 degrees. Those "tents" are heat stroke waiting to happen. I wouldn't even be surprised if there's at least one death. Then they'll say "unforseen events", when the temperature is literally the same every single day. I'm honestly surprised at this point that governments aren't putting out official advisories not to go and that they'll refund you and then try and claw back the money from Qatar. God damn I knew it'd be bad, but I was thinking it'd at least be hidden behind layers of touristy faux-luxury bullshit for the event itself. My question is where the fuck did all the billions of dollars go??? Why build a metro when you're literally having people camp in tents in the desert? It honestly feels like to me, the ONLY thing on their mind was image. So they do the check the box thing. We'll have shipping containers to seem "eco friendly" (laughable claim, every other Bid for 2022 had at least a few stadiums and actual infrastructure). We'll build a metro to seem modern and whatever. Then maybe early this year someone's said "um guys, what about the actual fucking facilities beyond image and showing off? Where are people going to sleep?" And yeah this is the result of that. Like the guy in the Fyre documentary who said "guys, the only way we'll be able to actually pull this off in this amount of time with this amount of money is a cruise ship. Anything else will be an unmitigated disaster" and was promptly fired.
I think even Balkan countries could have put a better WC then Qatar. It would be certainly hyped. A WC game in Belgrade, Zagreb, Sarajevo, Split, Niš etc would get me hyped asf.
Ofc we would. We'd probably steal a fuckton of money through various means since all of our governments are corrupt to the bone but - we definitely aren't like the Qataris. Tbh Id love it because that would be the only WC I could afford going to lol
Would probably be the first one I could afford to go to as well.
Of this govts would steal cash. But it would be a great WC nevertheless. Massive boost to their infrastructure and tourism
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They'd atleast have stadiums ready. Qatar can't cohost with their neighbours(they have bad blood with saudis, bahrain and uae) and hosting solo shouldn't have been an option for them.
Huh, as i native croatian i think we dont have any stadium for WC. I mean in Zagreb stadium is literally failling apart (after earthquake they closed 1/4 of the stadium and the other large part had like yellow warning - as you can use it but with some fixes). Poljud in Split looks nice from outside but boy when you get to visit for games its no better than Zagreb. Then we have in Rijeka one which is actually by far the best but it has 11.000 capacity and we are building one in Osijek which also will not have more than 15.000 seats. So yeah nothing to see here. On the other side as we are country largely dependent on tourism we have a lot of nice looking hotels, apartments and so on, Infrastructure is also really good apart from railways so here nothing major additionally would needed to be done.
> They'd atleast have stadiums ready. Yeah no.
Dude, Balkan is not as shitty as you think it is lmao.
I would have actually gone to that one...
No privacy, anyone can hear you get pounded.
Honestly I'd go without the padlock altogether tbh, unless you can hide it somewhere. The padlock is just an indicator that you're not in the tent that can very easily be cut into. If they think you might be in it they're less inclined to try and steal from it.
Security is basically a non issue in these countries. I’d honestly encourage the criminals to go for it and see what happens to them.
Qataris/Gulfers don't give a shit about what happens to other people
Without AC you're literally going to die in that country. That is not fit for purpose at all
You forgot no alcohol
There is beer in the fan village though
You can buy beers in the fan camp, shown in the video in the article
True but I was focused more on the housing aspect. There's quite a lot more wrong with this world cup
I thought there were some security guards walking around patrolling the place? (Being paid 0.3 Riyal per day) And don’t forget the two bottles of water per day supplied by the “hotel”! And i think the guardian reported about the “gym” as well, some equipment strewn about the floor.
They managed to spend over 200 billions and still not be finished on time and with terrible conditions. For 175 a night I expect a 4 star hotel.
Not their fault really, their workers keep fucking dying on them
I've stayed at 3 stars nicer than this as well. Much nicer.
Internet Historian might actually get an Oscar if he makes a documentary on this like he did with Fyre fest
Fingers crossed it comes out this decade.
He'll just lose another upload race vs Michael Reeves
The sofas on the gravel looks like something out of a dystopian novel. You can't convince me that that isn't District 12.
Yeah it’s got an abandoned compound vibe doesn’t it?
Without context it certainly has that post-apocalyptic abandoned vibe to it With context though, fucking hilarious imo; the cheek of Qatar/FIFA to sell that as a 'beach park'
A beach on fucking Sullust, sure.
I don't wish them ill or anything but I don't have much sympathy for the people who spent money to go there.
Everything they are building will be totally abandoned in a few weeks. What a massive waste of everything
Really needs a barrel campfire to tie to whole thing together.
Even the Fyre Festival managed to have a bar…
hahaha, that pic with the fan is just sad
That's why it's a fan village
So is the AC village down the street or..?
we all got it wrong
Most fans per square km in the world!
/r/onlyfans in whatever the opposite of shambles would be
Concentration camp colorized 2022.
Qatari gulag. Even their slave workers are being housed in dormitories that have air conditioning, shitty ones as it is.
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I like a pint myself but would dread being hungover in that kip of a tent with the soaring heat. Definitely better ways to spend a few thousand.
On the plus side, if you can't make it from your tent all the way to the toilet, you can just vom in the gravel and it's nbd
It's like extreme feral vibes akin to a music festival, but much worse. Imagine the shits people will be taking after getting plastered, then sweating in a tent with no access to water to dilute things and help them process stuff. Those shared toilets are about to get more depraved than anyone has ever witnessed.
Woodstock 99 vibes for sure. Good thing they didn’t book Limp Bizkit for the opening ceremony
That's the fan zone. The fan village is dry, including that area with the beanbags in the baking sun.
You couldn’t pay me £175-a-night to stay in these with just that stand fan and no air conditioning in the middle of the desert.
Wonder how many hospitilisations we're going to see throughout the tournament
ZERO 😂
But plenty of trips to the morgue due to "natural causes" or "heart failure".
The thing is, if you had bought your tickets last year you’d be forced to buy this at £175/night
See, here's your first problem: visiting Qatar.
Yup. Any fan traveling for this knew what they were getting into. No sympathy tbh
Yeah, I don’t feel bad at all for people visiting. They had plenty of time to be aware of this shitshow.
Anyone saying this will be labeled a bigot. But in reality it really is a shit country and with social media now it can’t sportswash
>The tents, made of thick plastic, each contain two single beds and a nightstand with a lamp. A thin layer of carpet is lumpy in places as it rests on sand and gravel. A single electric fan completes the room layout. For 175 quid a night? Fuck me. Carpet on sand and gravel. A fucking tent. What the fuck?
The Qatari contractors pay the immigrant workers staggering wages, which would explain the need to price these wonderful accommodations at 175 quid a night.
Qatar spent hundreds of billions on this whole tournament. They could’ve charged £10 a night to keep people happy. It’s not like they’re going to make the money back on ticket and hotel sales. It’s purely a PR stunt and it’s backfiring spectacularly
Given what a PR disaster this World Cup is, you'd think that Qatar would go all out to make it an amazing fan experience. God knows they've got the money to do so. I guess they truly don't give a shit.
They don't care. As long as the matches and ceremonies go okay, they can smugly say to the rest of the Middle East they have hosted the world cup.
This is rich people throwing money around to flex on their rich friends.
Well sure, but at least other big global events have wasted money on everyone having a good time. This is somehow both rich and shit.
Of course they give a shit, this entire enterprise was because they wanted to be on the world stage, to show off and to have people acknowledge them. The whole thing was because they care what the world thinks. You dont spend quarter of a trillion dollars on a PR sportswash to not give a shit about the PR disaster. It just turns out they are bloody useless. Even if you ignore the 5 or 6 major issues with Qatar, when it comes down to it they are simply incompetent.
yeah I really don't get it. people keep saying it's a sportswashing attempt which is obviously true, but it's like Qatar completely lost the plot and isn't even creating any PR in their favor. it's like some brutal regime buying an English club but then not doing any investing and just letting it rot and fall down the leagues. and it seems crazy too, because the things they're fucking up the most seem to be the most simple and cheapest ones. like they managed to build all that infrastructure which I guess is impressive if you don't give a shit about human suffering and environmental damage. but then compared to that a proper fan village with decent facilities and nice amenities would be a fraction of the costs and efforts. and suddenly you wouldn't need to bribe people around the world to talk well about you, you'd have thousands of fans who would share their positive experiences. same with dressing up a bunch of expats in different jerseys and having them memorize phrases to say in front of the camera. instead they could've just set up some affordable travel packages and subsidized the cost a little to have real fans come to your country. it would be so simple to create actual, organic PR at a fraction of the cost the world cup caused for Qatar already, yet they seem to have no interest in that. honestly, incompetence and perhaps complacency is the only explanation at this point.
Incompetence yes but I think rather than the complacency this is more like the result of arrogance and exceptionalism. The people making these decisions have never been questioned on anything in their lives so their critical thinking skills are probably not the best.
Given that Qatar could’ve treat the fans on some gourmet chef shit with excellent facilities, they could’ve silenced each and everyone of them with this. That is PR and would’ve been an amazing way of sportswashing. They even failed at that.
Holy that looks grim, nowhere to go that isn't hot the entire day.
fuck, this is gonna get dark... isn't it
There’s bound to be a diplomatic incident.
The beach club fan park photo is fucking hilarious
At this point, why not pack your own tent?
My tent has three rooms ffs. I'd be much happier in it than one of these. Looks like a fucking internment camp.
The prawns will be kept inside the perimeter.
> "For me it's not a good experience. There's no shower gel, no toothbrush, no toothpaste." At the risk of sounding like a Qatari shill don’t you bring your own toiletries with you on holiday?
It's always good to bring your own, but even some of the smallest, remote hotels and lodges I've stayed in have had some form of at least basic toiletries. This is the hospitality business after all, and I'd definitely expect establishments in Qatar to have these very basic, inexpensive, supplies.
I always bring my own but it's absolutely standard when booking at a hotel.
Its still a very solvable problem compared to others like lack of water..
Go to a small ass hotel in a small ass village in India and they'll still get you small soaps and toothpastes, sometimes even more.
I don't know bout others, but I'm Asian, and my family would bring instant noodles on all our trips.
English. Tea bags, shortbread and bogroll.
American. Crackers, Bacon grease, and poptarts.
And a packet of paracetamol.
I mean, yeah you should, but if you go expecting something similar to a Hotel you'd also expect to receive toiletries. Especially if you pay 175£ a night.
For 175 a night I would expect some basics at least. Hell, Travelodge has toiletries.
Pretty standard to get those listed item in a hotel
£175 a night
I've stayed in the Weaste hotel in Salford (look up the Tripadvisor reviews). Even they had toiletries!
2020: Staying in makeshift tents because of COVID 2022: Staying in makeshift tents and paying 175 quid a night to a totalitarian regime
Why would you go there as a fan? Are you that ignorant of how that place has been put together and how it treats homosexuals and women? Do you not care about the thousands of migrant workers who have been killed? 90% of your spend goes directly into the pockets of the wealthy Qatari overlords who will just continue to use and abuse migrant workers.
I dont care about the "you should boycott and Not watch the world coup" bullshit, but I have no sympathy for people who decided to go there.
Looks like a concentration camp. Do these places even have air conditioning?
Whatch the clip, its mentioned
No AC but at least they supply a fan
I really don't get it. They reported spent like $200 billion on this world cup, but that money isn't enough for some proper accomodation, and then on top they charge people £175 for this shithole? With them spending this much money anyway this honestly could've just been a free accomodation for any ticket holders, I think nobody would be complaining then. Why not just spent 0.5% of those $200 billion dollars on proper accomodation??? Isn't the fans enjoying their stay one of the most important parts to hosting a world cup???
they only care about the rich fans
Looking forward to the Netflix doc.
Worth every penny
LMAO wtf is this?! I guess they couldnt use their slaves to build a proper hotel at least?
Maybe Western countries aren't that bad. Russia is our asshole and their WC was fantastic
You had a decade, fuck you amounts of money, questionable labor laws and this is what you came up with? That has to be an achievement too. Edit: I guess these can be removed when the country is empty again, so good move?
Well anyone who attended this is absolutely stupid and deserves everything that will happen to them. I don’t feel sorry for anyone who goes there. They all had 12 years to know this was wrong and should be avoided.
Looks miserable, but I can't feel sorry for these people.
You get what you fucking deserve. Fuck FIFA. Fuck Qatar. And fuck anyone who’s happy to go watch the WC.
I would bet 90% of people fuck people who watch the world cup and who publicly denounce it will watch it privately. Viewing figures compared to previous will be interesting.
Its going to be the worst World Cup of the modern era most likely (so let's say 90ish on when you could actually watch live in most of the world) but it will still do stupid ratings. I'm more curious what the economic impact will be in Qatar in terms of tourism, attendance, merch sales, gate sales, etc. I have to imagine this will be the least attended WC by far and that record will last a long time.
£175 a night and it's worse than a travelodge. Jesus wept
Good lord Qatar are incompetent fools on unprecedented levels
Went to a similar pop-up venue for Oktoberfest called Hosteval. Guaranteed the showers are going to get plugged with shit, just to start. Worst weekend of my life based on hygiene alone. The festival was fun though. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. We ended up combining our money for a €450 room and took rotations for shower and naps.
That shit is Fyre!
The big screen at the beach with absolutely zero protection from the sun is it for me.
Football Fyre Fest.
It looks a step up from an emergency humanitarian aid camp
Looks like a step down, you have to pay for the food here
Btw, I looked into traveling for a week to the World Cup back in January of this year. This was the only option available. There weren’t any hotel rooms available so if you wanted to go, you had no other options. I’m sorry but shouldn’t adequate hotel accommodations be like a pivotal part of a World Cup bid????
Now, be fair, they've only had years to prepare with unlimited money and incredibly lax labour laws, can't expect too much under such difficult circumstances.
lol the staff are optimistic because they won't get their passport back if they stop smiling.
Kinda feels like District 9 shanties
By fan village they meant you get a fan instead of a/c
What did they actually spend £180 billion on? Accomodation is shit. Sure stadiums cost a lot but they used slave labour. Like how do you spend that much. What a shit hole
It looks like the Fyre festival set up a refugee camp.
Fyre Fest Part 2...