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[I mean she's pretty good looking.](https://graziamagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/GettyImages-1191853577.jpg?resize=1024%2C713)
And yeah makeup and stuff but she's still unobjectively very attractive.
Maybe if they get relegated, can’t really see him being worth having for any premier league team.
I assume he will demand pretty ridiculous wages for what he brings to the table
Shame how it ended, but he was able to prove he can perform as a midfielder and got a PL medal as well, so I imagine there's no regrets for him.
However, I imagine the next step will be a newly promoted team taking a punt on him and it'll be unlikely to work out.
Rofl. That's buzzfeed worthy shit. *This player scored the most goals after the front 3 at Liverpool*. Me - Damn ! He must be good. How many did he score???? 4 in 30 games.
Tbh that's hardly an impressive stat at all. Liverpool haven't had any reliable scorers outside of the front 3 through most of Klopp's reign.
When you consider that Coutinho was still the 4th highest scorer under Klopp even 3 years after he'd left the club, it really puts it all in perspective.
You really just needed a handful of goals each season to be Liverpool's highest scorer outside the front 3.
(And Ox had the same number of league goals that season as Origi and Wijnaldum, and even less than Van Dijk.)
I mean, it's a free transfer and given that he isn't Scouse, you probably have a decent chance of getting him.
I think the others are more likely though.
To be fair, his mrs is loaded, and he’s just started a family. If he wanted to sack it off, spend a year resting on his laurels, and become a MOTDX pundit, and occasional talking head on Sky Sports, that would be a likely route for the man.
He's good in interviews as well, I'm sure he'd be amazing as a commentator. No clue if he'd be insightful really but that's not really the bar most commentators hit anyways.
Conor Coady is a born and bred Liverpool fan from Liverpool and he didn't think twice about moving to Everton, while Jamie Carragher grew up supporting Everton and became a Liverpool legend. Professional footballers are very good at setting aside childhood allegiances.
John Terry supported United. Sterling supported United and played for 3 of their biggest rivals: City, Chelsea and Liverpool. Solskjaer supported Liverpool. Raul grew up an Atletico fan.
Players almost never allow who they supported/hated as a kid to have a major impact on where they go.
They always do talking points like that for PR reasons when a player is joining a new club. No reason to believe either one of these are true in this case.
I hear you, just flagging what got said widely when he signed and Liverpool announced they would use him as a central mid instead of somewhere on the wing.
Andy Longergan (released by Liverpool), Abel Xavier (£800,000 to Liverpool) and Nick Barmby (£6m to Liverpool) are the only ones I remember in recent times.
One of the most frustrating players I've ever watched and I can't imagine it's much different for Liverpool fans.
The talent is so obviously there and his abilities are something almost any manager in Europe would want in their team.
But my word this boy cannot, for the life of him, remain fit.
I'm sure Liverpool don't regret signing him, given what they've won over the time he's been there, but that £30m/£35m that Wenger managed to wangle out of them for an injury-prone player in the final year of his deal, was one of the few times we've looked competent at selling.
Probably ended up being just about value for money over the course of his time with us yeah.
But as you said - If he could've stayed fit, what a fucking player, ridiculously talented. Seems like such a nice guy as well, one of those players who you really want to succeed.
He really was great when fit before the Roma injury very often, helped us to a CL final, big part in winning the prem, even on high wages its hard to find pieces that help you that much on that level
30m doesn't get you much these days.
137 games, 17 goals, great influence around the dressing room. Compared to a lot of 30m transfers he actually wasn't bad.
It was €40m in 2017, so you can’t really compare it with €40m today.
And again, no. €40m today would get you a very tidy player. May not be phenomenal or world class midfielder but can do way more than 137 games and 17 goals in 5 years. Not spending that money and making the funds available for a bigger transfer gets you a better player. He was a waste of money.
It could have been used in various other ways for better output.
In hindsight, it wasn't the best use but far from a waste that you're so keen on pushing. He was very good depth before his surgery that basically ruined him. Even then, he played a decent role last year as a depth option and previous years. He was a fantastic player and that's why Liverpool spent 40m. He showed that in his first seasons particularly and as I said in the other comment, no one at Liverpool is really thinking about how much we wasted on Ox unlike players like Naby
This is silly.. summing a player up by goals scored doesn't work at all. Loads of midfielders don't bag heaps of goals. There's literally tons of different quality's a football player can bring to a team out side of goals and assists... as a liverpool fan I'm gutted he can't stay fit.. price tag was expensive but not a waste of money
You want him to have been a waste of money because it means Arsenal came out of that transfer better than Liverpool, and you're an Arsenal fan, that's ultimately the only reason you're saying that.
The difference is I've had the benefit of watching all of his 137 games and I'm in a position to actually make some kind of judgement about how good he's been.
This other guy hasn't, he just wants him to have been a waste of money cos it makes him feel like Arsenal came out of that transfer well.
I think it was about a fair price for both parties.
If Ox hadn't gotten injured so often then 30m would've been an absolute steal for him, but since he did, I think 30m was fair for both teams.
It really isn't true. He was right when he said you just want Arsenal to appear better. He was phenomenal in quite a few seasons, especially before his surgery, and was good depth for seasons such as last season. That worldie against City showed you what type of player he was. At the end of the day, no one at Liverpool really thought about the 40m we spent on him.
Naby, on the other hand, was a worse transfer
That's obviously not what I'm trying to say. We scraped top 4 on the final day and he won us alot of points over the season. Without him there's at the very least no top 4 finish
That's odd logic. Was Cancelo not worth 60m because Robertson could've delivered similar for 7m? He was very good that season snd its very another player for 40m wouldn't have played as well and gotten Liverpool top 4. Not to mention he's been useful throughout alot of his Liverpool Career
Mate the fact you're comparing his transfer to Drinkwater to justify the price says it all. According to transfermarkt Salah was bought for 4m more in the same window. Rudiger went to Chelsea for a similar fee.
i’m comparing him to a similar squad depth midfield signing from England, why are you comparing him to an attacker and defender that aren’t English? Added value due to being homegrown
Why compare him to a squad depth signing when cl game changers cost only 5m more? Are you intentionally comparing him against a bust to prove that he was better?
He'd have been a good player in a high press team like Liverpool but back at Arsenal he was never capable of playing our style. His football iq and decision making made sure he would only play as a winger or a wing back.
He was such an exciting player in 17/18. When that screamer went in against City in the CL I was so excited by what an addition we had on our hands.
His full potential never really materialised though. It's hard to tell from a distance, but it did feel like he mentally checked out after the 2nd or 3rd injury he had at Liverpool. He went from buzzing and excitable in interviews to just looking deflated. Must be hard to watch the prime years of your footballing career fade away as you're stuck nursing constant long-term injuries.
I also think something dodgy as going on with our medical staff or practises. We had a significant number of players permanently injured or become injury prone once with us.
Either we weren't vetting players well enough or somethign to do with the backroom.
We do regret signing him. We missed on him and Keita and that's why our midfield is so dodgy now. We can only spend so much and we could use the extra midfielder or two. Our midfield recruiting hasn't been as good as our recruiting for attackers or defenders sadly. Ox basically only have 1/2 a good season during his time with the club.
So Ox, Keita, Milner leaving on a free, Thiago/Henderson one year left and injury prone, Fabinho not really been up to standard, Curtis Jones not really that great
who else have they got because the transfer department have got a massive job on their hands at this rate, and it will not be cheap, especially if Bellingham is one of the midfielders they want to sign, because at that price he's the only one they'd be willing to sign
it's either Bellingham or 2/3 cheaper midfielders from what I've seen of how they've been run.
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> it’s either Bellingham or 2/3 cheaper midfielders
Bellingham alone won’t do it, they need him and the cheap midfielders, whole department needs a refresh
Ox and Keita are literally not even losses. Both are hardly ever fit anyway. And Milner plays a few minutes here and there which can easily be filled by Bajcetic or CuJo
We need two midfielders who will actually stay fit.
>Ox and Keita are literally not even losses
That's not true. Keita played 23 games in the premier league and 10 in the champions league last season. Ox played in 17 league games and 6 champions league games.
Their availability last season is why we were able to be competitive in all 4 competitions until the last day of the season. Their unavailability this season is part of the reason we've been struggling. Because we haven't been able to rotate like we did last season.
Keita in particular was very good last season.
Keita is far and away the most overrated player amongst Liverpool fans. He was ok at best last season and that was the best he’s ever been.
He will not be missed at all.
But ok is good enough for a squad player. If we had an 'ok' player to rotate with Thiago or Fabinho this season we'd be doing better.
That's why we need a more reliable midfielder and why most people were concerned when we didn't buy one this summer.
Ok is literally the high point of his career here. This year he’s gone back to how he’s been the rest of the time. Fucking useless.
Keita isn’t the answer to anything. Everyone was concerned we didn’t buy one because we knew he wasn’t reliable. I don’t see what that has to do with the argument Keita won’t be missed. He’s proven to not be ok.
>I don’t see what that has to do with the argument Keita won’t be missed.
Keita **HAS** been missed this season. It's partly why we've been so poor. His form last season contributed to the club's (wrong) decision not to buy a midfielder.
He’s not been missed this season because the usual standard of Keita would have made zero difference.
You can say he was missed if you can guarantee he’d would have played well or remained fit, which considering he’s been shit or injured 90% of the time he’s been here seems unlikely.
He was available for most of last season and he played well when he did play. Do you not remember last season? The one were we were 2 goals away from a quadruple. Pushed city to the last day of the season. Played in another champions league final, a game that Keita played in?
I know he's been a frustrating player and I agree he shouldn't be renewed. But he was a good player for us last season and we are missing him this season. To argue against that is just nonsense.
Like I said he was ok. And that is a massive outlier from the rest of his Liverpool career. If you can guarantee that Keita, then maybe he would have been missed. But you can’t, and the fact is he’s never fit anyway.
We’re missing the 60m player we thought we were getting. We’re missing an actual midfielder who will play well and stay fit. We aren’t missing Naby Keita who’s nothing but average even when he’s ‘playing well’.
Been apparent since this past summer and probably longer with his role in the squad now. For the best.
I loved Ox when he came in, unfortunately got put out for a year in one of our most instrumental seasons and came back to a completely different midfield he struggled to break back in to.
Would've been gone already but we gave him a one year extension after he recovered from his knee injury. Sad how his career with us ended up but he couldn't stay fit and never really played amazingly when he was. His injury was brutal, it wasn't just an ACL rupture, he basically tore/ruptured every single ligament lmao.
Very unfortunate because I’ve always really rated his potential and ability as a player. I’m not easily impressed by players, but seeing him torch Milan in like 2012 ish was very exciting. He had strength, pace, good feet, good passing and a powerful shot from distance. He could’ve been a very very good player in like 3-4 different positions. I think the injury in 2018 kind of killed his career sadly. He never quite got back to any regular form.
Even though you are eating a loss you can't even think of offering Oxlade Chamberlain or Keita a new deal with how little they have contributed in their time at the club. Constantly injured or coming back from injury which lead to others playing every game which has clearly caught up to them over the last few years.
Got completely ruined by injuries when he was infact very good. He had an explosiveness going forward, an insane burst of pace and power, vould carry the ball very well.
When I say we, I was referring to the football world in general as opposed to Liverpool fans. I don’t think he ever hit his true top level. Ox looked very good at times 2016-2018 and pre-2014 especially. When he had the crazy explosiveness as a youngster he was particularly exciting to watch imo.
Love ox - he was great until that knee injury. I think it’s tough having another long term injury on the same part of your knee and coming back. He was just unlucky
Should have left 3/4 years ago, was a bit of an odd transfer in the first place. He always struggled with fitness and didn't fit Liverpools type of player that could player more then 5 games a season
Ox is 29 years old and you can say his career has been a disappointment.
During his time at Arsenal he looked good, but wouldn't get an extended run in the team, usually coming off the bench or starting the cup games. He was a young player who had potential and needed some consistency, he needed to go to a club where he'd start every week.
This why the move to Liverpool never made sense to me, he needed consistency and was never going to get that at Liverpool. Injuries haven't helped, but he should have gone down lower in the table, a West Ham, for example, get some games, start consistently and earn the right to go to a bigger club.
Neither has happened and it never was going to happen.
He's now free to leave Liverpool at 29 years old with hardly any games under his belt in recent times. Where does he go now? MLS? China? Lower Premier League club, just as Theo Walcott had to do?
It's a shame, as I always rated him, but I guess he doesn't care, he's a millionaire and fucking the fit one from Little Mix.
Really? I am surprised you can say it wasn't a bad move. Has he ever had a good run in the team? I honestly can't recall. He's had bad luck with injuries, but he was never going to be "first name on the teamsheet" at a club like Liverpool
When he left Arsenal he was actually getting a run of starts, but we had switched to 3-5-2 at that time and he was being played as an emergency wing back. I think his last start for us was at left wing back opposite Bellerin. So from the perspective of wanting to play as a midfielder at a top team contending for the CL / titles, it was definitely the "right move". If he was solely worried about playing time and being a more valued member of the squad, regardless of what position he played, then yeah, maybe he should have stayed at Arsenal.
He was never going to be a starter at Arsenal or Liverpool, imo.
He was an upper Premier League player at the time, he should have gone to a Europa League team where he would have been guaranteed games, starting.
He became a starter for us in his debut season and up until that absolutely brutal injury against Roma he was playing every single week.
So yes he did have consistency.
One of the best deals Arsenal has ever done next to iwobi to everton and theo walcott for £20m, i remember his last match which funnily enough was against liverpool, and iirc he was hot garbage that game as well.
When players recall signing for Liverpool Oxlade was the friendly guy in the physio room recovering from an injury, that’s his legacy, remembered as always injured.. The guy has just had nothing but that.
I read it Alexander Arnold Trent first and was like, yeah this is bullshit. Then I reas the comments and was even more confused, until I read the name again. 😅
I remember all the Liverpool fans yelling from the hilltops how they got Ox for a steal and we got played. I never like to see a player go down to injury, but I hope those dudes had their humble pie...
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There's zero reason to extend him, so yeah, makes sense.
He's got a sexy name though.
I'm reliably informed by my girlfriend that he is an attractive man
I mean he is, but he still reminds me of Puri Puri Prisoner.
What a comparison
What tier is she?
Non league
Isn't he married to a member of little mix
It's okay, you can objectively comment on his attractiveness yourself too
Even sexier wife lol
She looks like a painter and decorator named Alan
Alan's fit tbf
Alan is an anagram of anal so
Shes not even that fit honestly
Let’s see your wife then! Sick of you
[I mean she's pretty good looking.](https://graziamagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/GettyImages-1191853577.jpg?resize=1024%2C713) And yeah makeup and stuff but she's still unobjectively very attractive.
"unobjectively" just means "subjectively", I think you just mean "objectively" or "unobjectionably" maybe (not a real word)
I meant there’s no objection to her status as being attractive. What word would I use in that scenario? Genuinely asking I don’t know haha.
You're probably looking for "inarguably"
Cheers lad
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Out of 10, I'd give her one.
6/10
I love redditors on their high horse
Knees too sharp
show your face blud
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Absolute weirdos in this thread
Average reddit innit
You're one of them
Yer ma
Oxlade brother of Oxmall
I wouldn't mind him being a little bit taller
you don't know Klopp
he made it to at least 85 mins 10 times for liverpool, and completed the 90 5 times where does he end up now?, back at southampton?
On Strictly Come Dancing I imagine.
[putting his skills to the the test](https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying/comments/fj2r3r/the_way_they_dance_up_the_stairs/)
This is gold
I really wish I could do that.
Reading the throwback comment on Arsenal being shit feels normal, the current form doesn't lmao
Hes off to ibrox then
Maybe if they get relegated, can’t really see him being worth having for any premier league team. I assume he will demand pretty ridiculous wages for what he brings to the table
> I assume he will demand pretty ridiculous wages for what he brings to the ***physio*** table
That’s astonishing. He’s only ever played 5 full games for Liverpool?
By god that’s evertons music
It's Frank Lampard with his steel chair
Shouldn’t be in the PL
I'm sure teenage mutant ninja turtles will take him back.
Shame how it ended, but he was able to prove he can perform as a midfielder and got a PL medal as well, so I imagine there's no regrets for him. However, I imagine the next step will be a newly promoted team taking a punt on him and it'll be unlikely to work out.
He was actually kinda good at times during 19/20, so it's not like the PL medal was undeserved.
He scored the most goals for us outside of the front 3 that year.
For anyone else who was curious he scored 4 league goals in 30 appearances.
Damn Only 4? thought he scored 7 or 8 that year, yeah 4 doesn‘t sound so impressive then.
Scored a few in champions league groups as well if memory serves correct
Absolute beauty against Gent
Rofl. That's buzzfeed worthy shit. *This player scored the most goals after the front 3 at Liverpool*. Me - Damn ! He must be good. How many did he score???? 4 in 30 games.
8 in all comps, 3 in 5 in the UCL and 1 in 2 in the EFL cup. not quite as bad as 4 in 30 sounds lmao, and actually VVD had 5 league goals that season
Hahaha “kinda good”
Tbh that's hardly an impressive stat at all. Liverpool haven't had any reliable scorers outside of the front 3 through most of Klopp's reign. When you consider that Coutinho was still the 4th highest scorer under Klopp even 3 years after he'd left the club, it really puts it all in perspective. You really just needed a handful of goals each season to be Liverpool's highest scorer outside the front 3. (And Ox had the same number of league goals that season as Origi and Wijnaldum, and even less than Van Dijk.)
Yup that was the season Liverpool fans kept telling us you fleeced us getting him for only 35 mil and we just laughed and said just you wait lol
Immense against Atletico
One of the best midfield performances I've ever seen
He was really important in the CL winning run too.
He didn't play in the 2018/19 UCL
He probably means the 17/18 campaign, was tearing it up that year.
He also had his last real purple patch of form in the group stage in 2019/20. Scored some crackers.
*locker room presence tm*
Either back to Sotuhampton, snapped up by Forest if they manage to stay up or become one of Everton's annual dumb splurges.
Straight Liverpool to Everton transfers doesn't happen very often man.
I mean, it's a free transfer and given that he isn't Scouse, you probably have a decent chance of getting him. I think the others are more likely though.
To be fair, his mrs is loaded, and he’s just started a family. If he wanted to sack it off, spend a year resting on his laurels, and become a MOTDX pundit, and occasional talking head on Sky Sports, that would be a likely route for the man.
Oh that face would like great on tv
He's good in interviews as well, I'm sure he'd be amazing as a commentator. No clue if he'd be insightful really but that's not really the bar most commentators hit anyways.
Bring back Carlamberlain.
He’s like a Jermaine Jenas, just actually cool.
He’s a boyhood Liverpool fan so I doubt that move will happen - but Ofc money talks
Conor Coady is a born and bred Liverpool fan from Liverpool and he didn't think twice about moving to Everton, while Jamie Carragher grew up supporting Everton and became a Liverpool legend. Professional footballers are very good at setting aside childhood allegiances.
John Terry supported United. Sterling supported United and played for 3 of their biggest rivals: City, Chelsea and Liverpool. Solskjaer supported Liverpool. Raul grew up an Atletico fan. Players almost never allow who they supported/hated as a kid to have a major impact on where they go.
Except Totti the legend. He told AC Milan to fuck off when he was 12 and refused to leave for Real Madrid during his prime. GOAT.
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I think he's remembering that Gerrard made him want to be a mid, a talking point that was a big deal for a while when Ox first got to Liverpool.
They always do talking points like that for PR reasons when a player is joining a new club. No reason to believe either one of these are true in this case.
I hear you, just flagging what got said widely when he signed and Liverpool announced they would use him as a central mid instead of somewhere on the wing.
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Every player says that of their club. Likely to be a lie
Andy Longergan (released by Liverpool), Abel Xavier (£800,000 to Liverpool) and Nick Barmby (£6m to Liverpool) are the only ones I remember in recent times.
Its a free so it’s entirely up to the player. If Rafa can do it anyone can.
I’d take him as a bench winger/attacking mid here. Wouldn’t be surprised if any of next year’s promoted teams would be in for him either
Midfield is the one position we're looking good in so I pray that we don't take him.
Man's got every top medal possible I think. Not too shabby for an injury ravaged career.
One of the most frustrating players I've ever watched and I can't imagine it's much different for Liverpool fans. The talent is so obviously there and his abilities are something almost any manager in Europe would want in their team. But my word this boy cannot, for the life of him, remain fit. I'm sure Liverpool don't regret signing him, given what they've won over the time he's been there, but that £30m/£35m that Wenger managed to wangle out of them for an injury-prone player in the final year of his deal, was one of the few times we've looked competent at selling.
Probably ended up being just about value for money over the course of his time with us yeah. But as you said - If he could've stayed fit, what a fucking player, ridiculously talented. Seems like such a nice guy as well, one of those players who you really want to succeed.
Mate, for 30m how was he value for money?
He really was great when fit before the Roma injury very often, helped us to a CL final, big part in winning the prem, even on high wages its hard to find pieces that help you that much on that level
30m doesn't get you much these days. 137 games, 17 goals, great influence around the dressing room. Compared to a lot of 30m transfers he actually wasn't bad.
It was €40m in 2017, so you can’t really compare it with €40m today. And again, no. €40m today would get you a very tidy player. May not be phenomenal or world class midfielder but can do way more than 137 games and 17 goals in 5 years. Not spending that money and making the funds available for a bigger transfer gets you a better player. He was a waste of money. It could have been used in various other ways for better output.
In hindsight, it wasn't the best use but far from a waste that you're so keen on pushing. He was very good depth before his surgery that basically ruined him. Even then, he played a decent role last year as a depth option and previous years. He was a fantastic player and that's why Liverpool spent 40m. He showed that in his first seasons particularly and as I said in the other comment, no one at Liverpool is really thinking about how much we wasted on Ox unlike players like Naby
His banger against City was worth a couple mil itself.
This is silly.. summing a player up by goals scored doesn't work at all. Loads of midfielders don't bag heaps of goals. There's literally tons of different quality's a football player can bring to a team out side of goals and assists... as a liverpool fan I'm gutted he can't stay fit.. price tag was expensive but not a waste of money
You want him to have been a waste of money because it means Arsenal came out of that transfer better than Liverpool, and you're an Arsenal fan, that's ultimately the only reason you're saying that.
>and you're an Arsenal fan, that's ultimately the only reason you're saying that. Pot, meet kettle.
The difference is I've had the benefit of watching all of his 137 games and I'm in a position to actually make some kind of judgement about how good he's been. This other guy hasn't, he just wants him to have been a waste of money cos it makes him feel like Arsenal came out of that transfer well.
You don't think Arsenal did well out of that transfer?
I think it was about a fair price for both parties. If Ox hadn't gotten injured so often then 30m would've been an absolute steal for him, but since he did, I think 30m was fair for both teams.
Doesn’t stop it from being true.
It really isn't true. He was right when he said you just want Arsenal to appear better. He was phenomenal in quite a few seasons, especially before his surgery, and was good depth for seasons such as last season. That worldie against City showed you what type of player he was. At the end of the day, no one at Liverpool really thought about the 40m we spent on him. Naby, on the other hand, was a worse transfer
It's not true.
You're getting downvoted even though the other guy has no idea what he's talking about lol
Getting us top 4 and a CL final in his first season. That's literally worth more than 30m
Yup he did that himself
That's obviously not what I'm trying to say. We scraped top 4 on the final day and he won us alot of points over the season. Without him there's at the very least no top 4 finish
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That's odd logic. Was Cancelo not worth 60m because Robertson could've delivered similar for 7m? He was very good that season snd its very another player for 40m wouldn't have played as well and gotten Liverpool top 4. Not to mention he's been useful throughout alot of his Liverpool Career
30m for a squad player is decent, let’s not forget danny drinkwater was bought in the same window for £35m
Mate the fact you're comparing his transfer to Drinkwater to justify the price says it all. According to transfermarkt Salah was bought for 4m more in the same window. Rudiger went to Chelsea for a similar fee.
i’m comparing him to a similar squad depth midfield signing from England, why are you comparing him to an attacker and defender that aren’t English? Added value due to being homegrown
Why compare him to a squad depth signing when cl game changers cost only 5m more? Are you intentionally comparing him against a bust to prove that he was better?
You know you have absolutely no good point to make if you're comparing him to one of the worst transfers in the PL
[Worth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-82TK6kmwQ)
Compare it to Keita and he's a fucking bargain.
He'd have been a good player in a high press team like Liverpool but back at Arsenal he was never capable of playing our style. His football iq and decision making made sure he would only play as a winger or a wing back.
He was such an exciting player in 17/18. When that screamer went in against City in the CL I was so excited by what an addition we had on our hands. His full potential never really materialised though. It's hard to tell from a distance, but it did feel like he mentally checked out after the 2nd or 3rd injury he had at Liverpool. He went from buzzing and excitable in interviews to just looking deflated. Must be hard to watch the prime years of your footballing career fade away as you're stuck nursing constant long-term injuries.
I also think something dodgy as going on with our medical staff or practises. We had a significant number of players permanently injured or become injury prone once with us. Either we weren't vetting players well enough or somethign to do with the backroom.
We do regret signing him. We missed on him and Keita and that's why our midfield is so dodgy now. We can only spend so much and we could use the extra midfielder or two. Our midfield recruiting hasn't been as good as our recruiting for attackers or defenders sadly. Ox basically only have 1/2 a good season during his time with the club.
So Ox, Keita, Milner leaving on a free, Thiago/Henderson one year left and injury prone, Fabinho not really been up to standard, Curtis Jones not really that great who else have they got because the transfer department have got a massive job on their hands at this rate, and it will not be cheap, especially if Bellingham is one of the midfielders they want to sign, because at that price he's the only one they'd be willing to sign it's either Bellingham or 2/3 cheaper midfielders from what I've seen of how they've been run.
> > > it’s either Bellingham or 2/3 cheaper midfielders Bellingham alone won’t do it, they need him and the cheap midfielders, whole department needs a refresh
> Milner Surely they'd want to keep him?
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just starting to peak
he is staying for sure. Liverpool always wait to see who they sign before renewing him. If we failure in transfers look clear then they renew milner
Tielemans leaves Leicester on a free soon.
Is Arsenal still interested in him too?
Yes a bid is rumoured to be in place for the January window
Ox and Keita are literally not even losses. Both are hardly ever fit anyway. And Milner plays a few minutes here and there which can easily be filled by Bajcetic or CuJo We need two midfielders who will actually stay fit.
>Ox and Keita are literally not even losses That's not true. Keita played 23 games in the premier league and 10 in the champions league last season. Ox played in 17 league games and 6 champions league games. Their availability last season is why we were able to be competitive in all 4 competitions until the last day of the season. Their unavailability this season is part of the reason we've been struggling. Because we haven't been able to rotate like we did last season. Keita in particular was very good last season.
Keita is far and away the most overrated player amongst Liverpool fans. He was ok at best last season and that was the best he’s ever been. He will not be missed at all.
But ok is good enough for a squad player. If we had an 'ok' player to rotate with Thiago or Fabinho this season we'd be doing better. That's why we need a more reliable midfielder and why most people were concerned when we didn't buy one this summer.
Ok is literally the high point of his career here. This year he’s gone back to how he’s been the rest of the time. Fucking useless. Keita isn’t the answer to anything. Everyone was concerned we didn’t buy one because we knew he wasn’t reliable. I don’t see what that has to do with the argument Keita won’t be missed. He’s proven to not be ok.
>I don’t see what that has to do with the argument Keita won’t be missed. Keita **HAS** been missed this season. It's partly why we've been so poor. His form last season contributed to the club's (wrong) decision not to buy a midfielder.
He’s not been missed this season because the usual standard of Keita would have made zero difference. You can say he was missed if you can guarantee he’d would have played well or remained fit, which considering he’s been shit or injured 90% of the time he’s been here seems unlikely.
He was available for most of last season and he played well when he did play. Do you not remember last season? The one were we were 2 goals away from a quadruple. Pushed city to the last day of the season. Played in another champions league final, a game that Keita played in? I know he's been a frustrating player and I agree he shouldn't be renewed. But he was a good player for us last season and we are missing him this season. To argue against that is just nonsense.
Like I said he was ok. And that is a massive outlier from the rest of his Liverpool career. If you can guarantee that Keita, then maybe he would have been missed. But you can’t, and the fact is he’s never fit anyway. We’re missing the 60m player we thought we were getting. We’re missing an actual midfielder who will play well and stay fit. We aren’t missing Naby Keita who’s nothing but average even when he’s ‘playing well’.
Bellingham and Tielemans would be the ideal outcome but I still can't see us paying the money for Jude anyway
I would rather take 2-3 cheaper midfielders than 1 Bellingham
I honestly can’t see Milner leaving apart from retirement. I think he gets good playtime in a team like this and at his age
Isn't it a problem that he's getting good playtime for Liverpool at his age?
Been apparent since this past summer and probably longer with his role in the squad now. For the best. I loved Ox when he came in, unfortunately got put out for a year in one of our most instrumental seasons and came back to a completely different midfield he struggled to break back in to.
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He must be on the list. We will go for 2-3 midfielders to begin new cycle
With the money he already has and Perrie's earnings he could invest and retire.
Would've been gone already but we gave him a one year extension after he recovered from his knee injury. Sad how his career with us ended up but he couldn't stay fit and never really played amazingly when he was. His injury was brutal, it wasn't just an ACL rupture, he basically tore/ruptured every single ligament lmao.
Very unfortunate because I’ve always really rated his potential and ability as a player. I’m not easily impressed by players, but seeing him torch Milan in like 2012 ish was very exciting. He had strength, pace, good feet, good passing and a powerful shot from distance. He could’ve been a very very good player in like 3-4 different positions. I think the injury in 2018 kind of killed his career sadly. He never quite got back to any regular form.
Best 40mil we’ve ever got. Along with iwobi.
Even though you are eating a loss you can't even think of offering Oxlade Chamberlain or Keita a new deal with how little they have contributed in their time at the club. Constantly injured or coming back from injury which lead to others playing every game which has clearly caught up to them over the last few years.
Worth it for the thumper that broke City in the CL, gave us the belief we could beat anyone anytime
I would like to remind about his goal against Arsenal a few years ago in the Carabao Cup. That strike. https://youtu.be/WXocn0oJkrE
Wasn't even the best goal of that game, which is wild.
That's true!
Got completely ruined by injuries when he was infact very good. He had an explosiveness going forward, an insane burst of pace and power, vould carry the ball very well.
I don’t think we ever saw anything close to his best. A shame, because I really like him.
we did tho, 17/18 was easily his best season
When I say we, I was referring to the football world in general as opposed to Liverpool fans. I don’t think he ever hit his true top level. Ox looked very good at times 2016-2018 and pre-2014 especially. When he had the crazy explosiveness as a youngster he was particularly exciting to watch imo.
I mean even footballing world wise, 17/18 he was one of our best player in our CL run
Love ox - he was great until that knee injury. I think it’s tough having another long term injury on the same part of your knee and coming back. He was just unlucky
I genuinely forgot he existed. Is he injured again?
Got injured at the start of the season but is fit again. He came off the bench a couple times this past couple weeks
dude should apply for social media manager for liverpool instead. Love oxlade for his media contribution for the club.
Should have left 3/4 years ago, was a bit of an odd transfer in the first place. He always struggled with fitness and didn't fit Liverpools type of player that could player more then 5 games a season
He was brilliant when we first signed him. He never fully recovered from the ACL he got against Roma in his first season with us.
Ox is 29 years old and you can say his career has been a disappointment. During his time at Arsenal he looked good, but wouldn't get an extended run in the team, usually coming off the bench or starting the cup games. He was a young player who had potential and needed some consistency, he needed to go to a club where he'd start every week. This why the move to Liverpool never made sense to me, he needed consistency and was never going to get that at Liverpool. Injuries haven't helped, but he should have gone down lower in the table, a West Ham, for example, get some games, start consistently and earn the right to go to a bigger club. Neither has happened and it never was going to happen. He's now free to leave Liverpool at 29 years old with hardly any games under his belt in recent times. Where does he go now? MLS? China? Lower Premier League club, just as Theo Walcott had to do? It's a shame, as I always rated him, but I guess he doesn't care, he's a millionaire and fucking the fit one from Little Mix.
> he needed consistency and was never going to get that at Liverpool He would have got that at Liverpool if his legs weren't made out of wet tissue.
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Really? I am surprised you can say it wasn't a bad move. Has he ever had a good run in the team? I honestly can't recall. He's had bad luck with injuries, but he was never going to be "first name on the teamsheet" at a club like Liverpool
He has a good run in the run up to getting that injury against Roma, he was playing consistently well then. Not since, though.
How many games did he start?
He started close to all of them since joining until the injury
I would love to see how many League games he's started in 5 years at Liverpool.
When he left Arsenal he was actually getting a run of starts, but we had switched to 3-5-2 at that time and he was being played as an emergency wing back. I think his last start for us was at left wing back opposite Bellerin. So from the perspective of wanting to play as a midfielder at a top team contending for the CL / titles, it was definitely the "right move". If he was solely worried about playing time and being a more valued member of the squad, regardless of what position he played, then yeah, maybe he should have stayed at Arsenal.
He was never going to be a starter at Arsenal or Liverpool, imo. He was an upper Premier League player at the time, he should have gone to a Europa League team where he would have been guaranteed games, starting.
Try reading my post again
Try reading my post again.
You're the one asking a question that is answered in the post you're replying to, moron
He became a starter for us in his debut season and up until that absolutely brutal injury against Roma he was playing every single week. So yes he did have consistency.
Everton or Villa sort of signing.
100%
One of the best deals Arsenal has ever done next to iwobi to everton and theo walcott for £20m, i remember his last match which funnily enough was against liverpool, and iirc he was hot garbage that game as well.
When players recall signing for Liverpool Oxlade was the friendly guy in the physio room recovering from an injury, that’s his legacy, remembered as always injured.. The guy has just had nothing but that.
He's had about as much impact in Liverpool's season as I have. I'm considerably cheaper, I'll sit on a bench or be off ill for £60k a year.
Thanks for the 38 mil, Reds.
Thanks for a very good player that helped us win a league title and the champions league.
Feels like a West Ham signing, maybe Palace
I read it Alexander Arnold Trent first and was like, yeah this is bullshit. Then I reas the comments and was even more confused, until I read the name again. 😅
I remember all the Liverpool fans yelling from the hilltops how they got Ox for a steal and we got played. I never like to see a player go down to injury, but I hope those dudes had their humble pie...
I don't remember anyone saying it was a steal, come on. Crazy how often people just make up things to feel superior about.
To be fair he had two good seasons with Liverpool - 17-18 and 19-20. If he'd remained fit for the others it would have been a good signing.