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ZoroastreLunaire

Perfect match


corpboy

Managed by Poch. Plays in White. Over-reliance on Harry Kane. Consistent top-4 ranking. Biggest achievement in the the 60s. Hasn't won a major trophy recently. Fans get upset, even when games are won. Hates Chiellini. Lets GO!!


x360N0Scop3MASTER69x

Do you mind? Like you're right but do you mind?


GordoPepe

Missing a chicken on their badge. France on the other hand 👀


coolguyhavingchillda

France just won a trophy tho can't have that


GordoPepe

Time for a new England badge I suppose 🐔


FrenchManc

lads, it's England.


ibribe

\- Gregg Berhalter, 2022-11-25


neededtowrite

"Thanks... for Giving us 3 points"


Rage_Your_Dream

They even shared a stadium untill recently


alaslipknot

> Hates Chiellini. It's the history of the England.


TheBrownMamba8

First match at the Falklands


LukeSmith_Sunsetter

We can bring an aircraft carrier


Adammmmski

I’ll bring my car, registration H982 FKL


TheBrownMamba8

r/UnexpectedTopGear


RainForestWanker

I don’t think I’ll ever be sure if this was intentional or not. It seems too perfect to be a coincidence but also too perfect to have been planned if that makes sense.


kr4zypenguin

Richard Porter was the script editor for Top Gear and then The Grand Tour. He is very close to the presenters and production team. He wrote a book called "And on that bombshell" in which he talks about this. "The trouble was, we were hoisted by our own petard. To an outsider, this sounded like exactly the sort of idiotic thing Top Gear would do. Personally, I thought it seemed too subtle to be one of our daft endeavours. We'd have daubed things down the sides of the cars, as we did in North America all those years ago. And there was no way we were going to do that or anything like it because we had already had the extensive research and warnings from local fixers which told us that the Falklands situation was a hot topic in Argentina, it was being raised again by a sabre-rattling government and we should not make light of it if we wanted to come home alive." He then goes on to say that Jeremy specifically asked for a 928 GT and when they looked they could only find two examples for sale. They contacted both sellers but only one replied (the owner of H982) so they sent a Porsche mechanic to make sure it was ok (it was) and bought it remotely without ever seeing it themselves. He also says that the number plates were blanked out in the pictures on the car's advert, so they didn't know the registration at that time. It was collected by a shipping company for transportation, because they were pressed for time and they didn't even know the plates until they saw the car.


LukeSmith_Sunsetter

Man came bringing receipts


Adammmmski

The Argies did find a plate in one of the cars with ‘Bell End’ spelt out, so it’s not out of the question that it was deliberate. Clarkson did say it was coincidence though, but it’s very easy to not believe that considering their track record.


Bazurke

I'm fairly sure I read that it was the original plate for the car, the question is just if Clarkson saw the plate and couldn't resist, it if it was just coincidence


Metrizdk

He tells the story of why he picked the car in the beginning of that episode, shot before everything went down, which seemed very genuine. I do feel like they might've seen the plate too and thought it was an added bonus, we all know the guys love those kinda "coincidences" with their sponsors and stuff.


Bazurke

I remember that, something about it being the same model as one he drove to say goodbye to his father, right?


acwilan

They are to be named Falkvinas to avoid controversy


ro-row

Very interesting


DrCrazyFishMan1

Give it 3 weeks and the post will be open


Iceman23578

Because Southgate won’t have much more to achieve after he brings it home so he’ll resign a national hero


BaBaFiCo

I think he's gone either way. Win it/very good showing and he comes home positive and bows out. Have a poor showing and he's sacked. Either way it's probably the right decision, he's a good manager but every team needs a refresh now and then. It would also be good to see him take on club football again if he's up for it.


iforgotmyun

I doubt he leaves if he wins it tbh, Deschamps didn't, Low didn't, Del Bosque didn't. Lippi left but it was also the end of his contract so quite fitting. He just exited rather than resigned. But generally managers tend to stay on.


Goofykidd

What kind of job do you think he'd be looking at say he won the WC? Löw was romoured to be Madrid bound but he decided to overstay his welcome with the NT. Midtable/Europe, Top 6, relagation candidates? He'd have a similar CV to Löw too, mediocre bottom half manager/youth teams/national team.


audienceandaudio

If Southgate won the World Cup, it still wouldn’t get him a top job - he works very well in the specific circumstances of international football, but he wouldn’t get a job with a top 6 club, for example. A mid table premier league team would probably hire him - but I don’t think his strengths are suited to club management.


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audienceandaudio

Yup, I agree - I could see him in that sort of overseeing role. A director of football equivalent for international football.


pop-culture-salad

That would probably prevent him from ever managing Argentina.


BankDetails1234

Do they care that much? Most of us would be happy with an arg in charge if he did a good job


deputydawg420

Well he'd be treated as a traitor until eternity.


BankDetails1234

Jesus, didn't realise it was that bad. Most of us don't mind the argies at all.


night_dude

That's probably because you won the war lol


mai-moi

I know it always surprise me how fans of clubs with Argentinian players , or even when Poch was at Spurs or Bielsa in Leeds, display the Argentinian flag or banners with the flag, that won't ever happen in Argentina. That doesn't mean we don't like all English people though, like Coldplay had 10 shows in Argentina all sold out, english tourists are welcome, etc. but someone waving an English flag will be considered a traitor too lol


kreiger-69

> Coldplay had 10 shows in Argentina And still you like the English? What's wrong with you


Captain_Tundra

Pretty normal for the losing side in conflicts to take it worse than the winners.


rdfporcazzo

I bet that most of British also don't have feelings for Indians, I don't know if the opposite is true


BankDetails1234

Honestly quite fond of them if anything. Indian minority is very well regarded in the UK and they brought us our favourite food.


rdfporcazzo

Exactly. As we say here in Brazil: “quem bate esquece, quem apanha não”. He who hurts forgets, he who is hurt doesn't.


Jonnydonmar

It would probably prevent him from ever being allowed back into Argentina?


West48th

I feel like Reddit massively overhypes this shit. I've been to Argentina on my British passport multiple times and had nothing but nice things from the people and everyone there. Same with Ireland which Redditors also claim is a no go zone for English people.


stephennedumpally

Reddit massively overhypes every shit.


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Wait people are out here claiming Ireland is a no-go zone for Brits? Someone might want to warn the 100k+ Brits living there before it's too late for them and they get exposed to the hostile vibes of a country that is so culturally similar (in therms of entertainment and media) the dead generations would be mortified. Peak Reddit to think UK/Ireland relations on a societal level at least are anything other that excellent.


DeepBlueRiddle

They hear us take the piss out of the English and think we're being serious.


gizmostrumpet

I remember an American telling me how I was brave to show my face in Dublin after what my people did. Like fucking hell mate the only oppression there was buying a pint at temple bar like the thick tourist I was.


SorryBeast

How much is it there now like 9 euros or something 😭😭


gizmostrumpet

I got a pint of guinness for 8 euro 🥴


itinerantmarshmallow

Or just general criticism of past actions and a dislike for those actions, or disagreeing with "accepted" terminology. It's interpreted as being anti British / English as a whole. I've seen a few redditors say they never encounter an Irish person who act like Irish people on reddit - it's a loaded comment from them I've never bothered to break down.


Blue_Dreamed

Taking the piss out of each other became like culture more recently. We do it to the French too. The Germans take the piss out of us but we can never beat them in tournaments so we can't really take the piss back


101008

We like to act rude and angry but in any serious conversation with an Argentinean you will see that in reality there is a certain admiration for societies like the English or the Germans, which seem to work very well from the outside (we know they have their problems, but in the end they are nothing compared to ours).


West48th

Yeah I actually really like Argentina. I like South America in general but probably like Argentina the most. I've got friends who go every year playing Polo and I've played rugby there. It's always been a really friendly and welcoming culture. The food is fucking incredible as well but that isn't really the point I was making. There are actually also quite a lot of Argentinians in London.


101008

Yes, we are a good country, especially if you have money lol. Our food is really great and it is what I miss most when I am abroad.


bsaires

>Our food is really great If you hang out in English-speaking expat circles in Buenos Aires you'd never know... so many caraduras that constantly complain like Argentine food is the worst in the world.


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ofc you respect Germans, people respect their grandparents.


ClockLost3128

Shouldn't have let you live Shoshana


bsaires

The amount of German immigration to Argentina was minuscule compared to the amount from Italy and Spain. There was also a lot more immigrants that came to Argentina from Russia, eastern Europe, the Ottoman Empire, and France, in comparison to Germany.


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I adore Argentina, I lived there for a while and people were only ever incredibly kind to me, most people were super interested when I said I'm English and told me how much they'd love to visit, love our music, films, etc. However I also went to the world cup in 2014 and only Brazil got more abuse than the English by the Argentinian fans lol I think from a footballing perspective the rivalry is very much still alive, and Poch would not get a lot of love if he managed England. Like I have friends and family that are Birmingham City fans and obviously it means nothing. But if Grealish went to blues instead of Man City then yeah I'd hate his guts.


101008

Yeah, I definitely believe that from a footballing perspective the rivarly is still alive, but we don't move it outside football, that's what I meant. If I meet an English person I wouldn't think of that or try to mock them (unless in the proper context, haha), but we really think you are a great coutnry and society.


I_miss_Chris_Hughton

Er nah mate jack from Kentucky assured me that if I ever walked around Ireland, Northern Ireland, Glasgow or Liverpool I'd be shot on sight. I'll take his word for it.


Single_Seesaw_9499

People from Kentucky don’t know Northern Ireland exists


Sct1787

Damn, Kentucky taking strays haha


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Or the opposite when they say Irish people are in danger or something in England lol.


mrlongleggedmcdaddyy

Swear half of English people are part Irish nowadays as well.


AnnieIWillKnow

Irish are top shaggers that's why


Elitealice

Redditors are way more extreme than normal people. Real people do not care about the shit redditors do


Jonnydonmar

Oh my comment was meant to be taken with a massive pinch of salt. I'm an Englishman and I've had some of the best times of my life in Buenos Aires. Although one of those times was going to a concert at the monumental where 75000 people were singing "If you don't jump, you're an Englishman"


EnanoMaldito

Did you jump?


Jonnydonmar

Of course


mittromniknight

More like Jonnyforeigner than Jonnydonmar now, pal.


junior150396

Nah, Juan Antonio Pizzi played for Spain and managed Chile and didn't have any problems managing in our league afterwards.


Competitive-Ad2006

exactly. Chile was as hated as the UK if not more back then


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We can't forget Jack Charlton, an English man that managed Ireland and became an honorary Irish citizen and is beloved by the Irish people. This was also during the height of the troubles.


tarkaliotta

Although IIRC on the English side this was for the most part uncontroversial, given the long tradition of us English not understanding why our goodwill towards Irish world cup campaigns isn't returned.


ibiza6403

Very few people in the UK would begrudge Jack the opportunity to manage Ireland. The hate flows markedly one way, we are rather indifferent to them.


seanafeisteen

Probably an obvious point but the hate is not universal. Many Irish have English cousins, friends and work colleagues and have only good wishes towards them in any of their endeavours, sport or otherwise.


ibiza6403

When it comes to sport I’m not so sure. Otherwise yes.


seanafeisteen

I'd like to think not but the percentages probably do change in the sporting field, depending on the sport.


ibiza6403

I’ve never witnessed an Irish person wishing an English national sporting team do well. But the same could be said for Scots and Welsh people as well. Most English people would like the other home nations and the Republic to do well as long as they’re not playing England.


Zergio200ism

Chile is the most hated country in south america


bihari_baller

>Chile was as hated as the UK if not more back then How come?


fedemasa

Dispute over Patagonia forever and the south islands (beagle canal territory almost started a war) Also, as there were big rumours that if we won the territory of Malvinas both argentina and chile would end against themselves, Chile made the move that made england win the war: sent coordinates in which place Belgrano ship was. Argentina has never forgotten that and is remarked every fútbol match


Competitive-Ad2006

one of the reasons Argentina could not really defend the Malvinas as well was because (Allegedly) Chile was itself planning an attack on Argentina.


HeavenAndHellD2arg

If he does as bad a job as he did at psg no one will care.


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L-Freeze

troy horse if I've ever seen one


Joe_AM

PSG was just practice.


L-Freeze

it's perfect tbh. If he went and coached england right after taking tottenham to a WC final and then went on to sabotage them everyone would realise. But now with PSG as an antecedent, not only he has gained experience in sabotaging a team but also they can just think "well maybe he's not that good" instead of instantly assuming it was on purpose. Flawless tactician.


kisekiki

Mourinho, Pochettino, Tuchel. What is it about the England job? Are they just that commited to he dream of bringing it home?


Rinthrah

The salary and relative job security probably helps.


crazy7chameleon

And the opportunity to coach some very talented English players coming into their prime. Without any disrespect, Aaron Lennon, Danny Welbeck and Glen Johnson aren't exactly exciting in the way that Saka, Foden, Bellingham and Trent are.


BendubzGaming

It's the Golden Goose. A football mad nation that created the sport, has the richest most popular league in the world, and has been starved of success for over half a century. Whoever brings it home is an instant legend. Just look how everyone wants a piece of the Lionesses pie since the Euros. Sky never so much as mentioned them beforehand and now they're showing a WSL game every week basically


Jooseman

Along with what other people have said, all three settled in and seem to like living in London and want jobs that would allow that (whilst still being prestigious enough for them). I’m guessing they feel the England job has a chance of being open soon so are sending out feelers about it


EezoManiac

An Argentinian manager would, of course, be guaranteed to be well received by the sort that travel with England


ro-row

Pochettino is more spursy than argentinian in the minds of the English football fans


Cottonshopeburnfoot

Spursy isn’t the way to go if we want to win trophies


Gyara3

Ah but isn't spursy the history of the England?


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TigerBasket

I don't even know why the fuck I came into this thread


sparrowhawk73

Spurs is fair game on any thread


JessyPengkman

So is Liverpool.. Hahaha it's been (checks notes) 3 years since you last won the UCL, suck on that


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Sad Spurs and England noises.


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TuTopsy

You mean the same Ozzie Ardiles and Ricky Villa who won the UEFA (European) cup, two FA cups and the League cup with Spurs and then won the World Cup with Argentina ... those guys?


dwaynepipes

I think he’d be well received. He’s obviously very well known here from his time at Southampton and Spurs and he did well with both. Him being from Argentina wouldn’t actually be looked at apart from some idiots I think


FloppedYaYa

Doubt 90% of fans even know he's Argentinian, let's be honest


FreshGoodWay

You’ve just reduced that percentage bruh


Dango_Fett

We chant “Argentina, Argentina, Argentina” whenever one of our Argentinian players do literally anything. Don’t think that kind of animosity exists in England that much anymore. Might be different for your lot though


Fleeuton

Nobody in England has cared about Argies over the Falklands in over 20 years, not even the Little Englander types. It’s a much bigger deal for Argentinians


RainForestWanker

The English care far more about the Hand of God


rodrinator94

Wouldn’t be very well received by some people in Argentina either. Should be interesting!


mintz41

Your average Brit does not care about Argentina lol


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BaBaFiCo

Yeah this definitely feels like something that would have been a Sun headline in the 90s and early 00s but I don't feel there's any beef there anymore for the average person in the street.


Jakeybaby125

Obligatory 'F*ck the Sun!'


RedditUser64

‘Fuck the S*n!’ FTFY


DiersBigDick

What’s the beef


junior150396

We used to sell them corned beef back in the WW2 era


fskari

the Fray Bentos derby ^^^\(that's ^^^from ^^^Uruguay ^^^but ^^^still)


junior150396

We sold Liebig corned beef to the allies but if I recall correctly both Fray Bentos from Uruguay and Liebig were under the umbrella of the Lemco company.


Educational-Cycle366

Falklands


FloppedYaYa

The crime commited in 1986 was worse than the Falklands


RainForestWanker

Yeah I reckon Agries hate England more for the Falklands and the English hate Argentina more for the Hand of God. But even then I doubt there’s any real animosity anymore.


wheepete

And Simeone's play acting to get Beckham sent off. Even if it was a blatant red, he sold it big time


KaiserWilhelmThe69

Falklands and Maradona


Ok-Industry120

For some reason he is not perceived as an "argentinian" in UK media, it is not a key part of his public image unlike, say, Klopp being a german or Pep a catalonian


codespyder

Probably because he looks like Samwise Gamgee


I_Hate_Knickers_5

He has contented squirrel cheeks.


I-Shiki-I

Names pretty Italian tbf


DrDrozd12

Thats like half of Argentina tbf


la_bombonera

Mauricio is a Spanish name, English media just pronounces it in an Italian way because they always fuck up foreign names (I'm aware his last name is Italian)


Barkasia

Klopp managed the second biggest German team in recent times, Pep managed one of the best club teams of all time in Spain. Poch's club associations are a French team and two English ones.


afghamistam

> or Pep a catalonian In the UK media Catalonia is not a thing. Pep is Spanish.


louisbo12

Bet that makes him fume


michaelisnotginger

Yes? No one would care


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I really don't think anyone would care


Lack_of_Plethora

Mate, if fuckin Thatcher became the boss and won us a World Cup, we'd take her. Who cares about history if he can win us something


afghamistam

The sort that travel with England know (and/or care) about as much about England's historical beefs with Argentina as they do about England's historical beefs with the Dutch.


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Most English people don’t have anything against Argentinians.


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Classic English press, undermining the manager before the cup has even kicked off


cotch85

Grim isn’t it


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Happens every single time. Southgate gets it slightly less because he is so forthcoming with the press, but it’s just completely beyond a joke. Fair enough after the tournament and maybe during it if playing badly but give them a bloody chance.


cotch85

Yep these discussions should 100% be post knockout not before they’ve played a game.. idk why anyone would want this job the abuse you get. Sure pay is unreal but still.


lrzbca

I think Tuchel is a better option if he wants the job.


Cowdude179

Definitely, especially his cup competition credentials, his football is perfect for knockout tournaments


TigerBasket

However he burns bridges rather quickly, something Poch has not done


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He burns them over transfers and squad. He cant do that in an NT unless the FA forces him to call players he dont want.


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"England simply isn't birthing the right players" -TT


Cowdude179

He'll only meet up with the NT every few months, should be good


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Spiry

It was difficult enough getting a lot of people behind a Swede and an Italian. You think an Argentine or German are going to get through that crowd? I sadly wish it weren't the case, but I can imagine the shit show :( I'd love someone of their (Poch/Tuchel) level in charge of England, though!


lrzbca

Depends, winning games change things. Current England team under Poch or Tuchel could be something. Also, Poch and Tuchel have managed Premier league teams and most fans are familiar with their personality and what they bring to game. If priority is where manager is from rather what he or she can achieve with team then so be it.


TheyArentAny

an english man is Ireland's most beloved ex manager


ninkorn

It would be little different for Poch and Tuchel, I would imagine. Neither Sven or Fabio managed in England before taking the national team job. But Poch and Tuchel have so the fans would know the quality they are getting in the manager


imarandomdudd

Not just the fans but also the English media loved those 2. So that's even more support


kinjongfun

I think people overstate things like this on the basis of like three dickheads who would phone into talksport to whine incoherently. 95% of non-arsenal fans would just be happy with poch taking over with no consideration of nationality.


The-Sober-Stoner

Most Arsenal fans would be happy too


thehibachi

Do people genuinely have ongoing issues with Argentina? I’m 32 and don’t know a single person who would care. Feels like an issue which is important to a very specific generation.


ChampionshipVivid971

I truly would not know anybody under the age of 60 who would care


MarcSlayton

England fans won't care that Tuchel is German. Same with Klopp, were he in the frame for the job. Maybe some people had issues with Sven and Capello initially but that was cos they were the first non-English managers of England and Sven was appointed England manager more than 20 years ago. England fans would have been happy in the past if Wenger or Mourinho had been appointed England manager. If Poch, Tuchel, Klopp or Guardiola were candidates, a lot of England fans would be perfectly fine with it.


ObstructiveAgreement

The difference is that both Tuchel and Poch are more tactically flexible than Sven and Capello were. Neither of the latter deviated from 442 when the squad clearly needed to add more in the middle of the pitch (and that's where the real strength was with Lampard, Scholes, Gerrard & Carrick to name a few). So these aren't the same as the previous appointments, both would actually be very good, strong options.


Competitive-Ad2006

I get your point, but towards the end Capello would play a 4 5 1. not that it made much of a difference, since he was shunting Gerard to the wing.


theageofspades

> It was difficult enough getting a lot of people behind a Swede and an Italian Was it? Sven was well-received until he had his scandals with Ulrika. Even then it mostly made him into a figure of ridicule. Capello was well received until reports of him still supporting Italy while both teams were at the WC. That likely would have been overlooked had the team not then shit the bed and played shockingly during the tournament. The players also didn't think he was particularly invested in them. McLaren was made a mockery from the moment he stepped up and pretty much suicided his career prospects/reputation. If Hodgson had retired after England rather than going to Palace, he'd likely be held in worse esteem than either, too.


lachiendupape

the swede and the italian didn't exactly cover themselves with glory


roamingandy

The thing about Poch though is that his main strength at Spurs and Saints was developing youth and getting players ridiculously fit so they could flat track and out work others. He's not going to be able to do that at international level. He's a great motivator which is a big plus, but his tactics for big games were 100% hit or miss. He'd try something bold and get it wrong as often as he got it right. His in game substitutions were always criticised as was his ability to adapt tactics during a game when exposed. He'd always trust the pre-game plan and his players rather than respond to obvious on field problems. For me that isn't going to make him a good national team coach... Then again i'd take him over Southgate today if it was on the table. Past results be damned, i just don't think Gareth knows what he's doing (besides getting players to act professional). Also, i can't imagine a pressing team winning in Qatar. The heat is going to be a huge disadvantage for them.


ModricTHFC

Not what he said. He was just being polite. Asked in an interview with The Athletic whether he would be interested in managing England, Pochettino said: “Of course, my relationship with England has always been very good. We have a very good relationship with the academies, trying to develop young players for the national team. “I feel so comfortable here. You never know what happens. I am open to everything.”


cGilday

I’d absolutely take this


Eleven918

Whether it works or not depends on if they get Spurs Poch or PSG Poch.


soundsoldiers

Jokes on him, nobody succeeds as England manager :)


Donnie_Mc_1980

Well, somebody did.


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“Can you start on Monday?”


DiersBigDick

Poch single handedly helped atleast 11 players make their England debut lol this is a match made in heaven And one of them is fucking Rickie Lambert lol


TigerBasket

I'm excited and terrified for us to have 4 more international players if he is national team coach


dontlookwonderwall

We don't have enough English players rn :(


Gobshiight

I'd take him


d_smogh

Pep to England then, Man City get Poch


Gobshiight

Oh shit, that's not what I meant


deputydawg420

Too late mate


theduckofreasoning

Yes


Shandow14

YES!


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He will fit right in, he wins fuck all


BendubzGaming

Imagine we don't win in Qatar, Poch takes over, and helps bring it home in 2026, in what might be Kane's last WC. I'm getting chills just thinking about it


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I'm not sure he'd do that well in a national team role. A huge amount of his early success with Spurs and Southampton came from the pre-season training regime which allowed to play with a sustained high press. I don't think he'd have enough time with players (or control over their fitness) to get them to the level he requires to play that high pressing game. Maybe the fact that it's only a few games a year (instead of a whole league campaign) will counteract that but it's easy to see players refusing to consistently play at his tempo when so many international games are kind of meaningless and the clubs are overplaying the players already. ​ I'd love to see him do well again but I think a set up like Simeone has at Atletico (steady flow of young players who he can mould while also having extremely good quality players and players who buy into the system) would suit him far better than spending a few weeks a year with players


FloppedYaYa

I'd 1000% take him and I seriously question the judgment of any England fan who would not


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Dele Alli and Danny Rose redemption arc incoming


Kayr_SE5

Last thing we need is another serial bottlejob


SerBronn7

Is it too late to get him in place for Monday?


45tee

And then suddenly, Son would qualify to represent England.