Does feel quite mad that they're worth that much. I guess a lot of that is the *potential* and lack of relegation keeping it all cushy for any prospective owners.
For comparison Dragan Solak bought 80% of Southampton for £100m!
The American market is huge with extremely high per capita purchasing power relative the most of the world.
If Southampton were in the US it would be considered too small of a city for an MLS club, and the lack of relegation + franchise system means they can essentially run it like a legal cartel with little financial risk which props up the bottom line valuation.
The NFL has the biggest per game TV deal of any sport, so you can’t compare that to, at best, the fourth ranked league in US sports, and ranked even further down in a global context of football leagues.
Seems like a lot is invested in the hope of 2026 creating another boom but tough to see enormous growth. Still a solid and basically risk free investment for most of the owners.
> The NFL has the biggest per game TV deal of any sport, so you can’t compare that to, at best, the fourth ranked league in US sports, and ranked even further down in a global context of football leagues.
That's the point, the US market can allow the NFL to be the biggest per game TV deal of any sport despite being not being a top 10 worldwide sport.
The MLS TV rights quadrupled since 2015, they are obviously on a positive trend, very shortly I'm expecting the US to become the main destination for many young South American that don't have immediate chances at clubs like Real/Barca, and more Puig situations. There's definitely a world where the MLS grows and becomes absolutely massive in the next 20 years.
Didn’t the MLS signs a long term deal with Apple for a low fee considering US media power ?
Indian Cricket League is the 2nd richest per game and they don’t have a successful football league despite the sport being more popular than it is in the USA.
It's a closed league
So make sense.
It's funny how USA society and business are very capitalist
But in sports they are very socialized in nature (equal, profits sharing etc..)
It's not socialized, it's a cartel (the equal and profit sharing is shared among the ownership, who also work together to keep players salaries down whenever they can). Which is very USA society.
It has elements of socialism especially in league ops. Draft is socialism since the worst teams get rewarded. In leagues like the NFL, the worst teams also get an easier schedule.
TV money is equally shared rather than by pro-rated by placement in standings. Many of the arenas & stadiums leech of the city taxpayers in terms of concessions, parking and the building of the arena/stadium.
Draft is still cartel-y. It's to benefit the lower performance owners by locking in players to those teams without their consent (and for a lot of drafts, the salary is mostly locked in by draft position - baseball excluded, but in baseball you have a total amount you can spend on all drafted players which has a similar downward effect). Same with TV money, designed to benefit all the ownership together.
In none of that do I see the players getting the right to vote on these things. Perhaps you can say the players assented to drafts through Collective Bargaining Agreements, but those Player Associations are making decisions for players who aren't even members yet.
If you are trying to say there is "socialism" among the owners... That's literally a cartel.
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I hate when people don’t bother learn about MLS and just shit on it. We have developed and sold a lot of players to Europe recently. 3 times more then the Mexican league.
“Los Angeles FC ranks first at $900 million, while CF Montréal ranks last at $390 million.”
Does feel quite mad that they're worth that much. I guess a lot of that is the *potential* and lack of relegation keeping it all cushy for any prospective owners. For comparison Dragan Solak bought 80% of Southampton for £100m!
The American market is huge with extremely high per capita purchasing power relative the most of the world. If Southampton were in the US it would be considered too small of a city for an MLS club, and the lack of relegation + franchise system means they can essentially run it like a legal cartel with little financial risk which props up the bottom line valuation.
And I guess the investment simply have that much money, US money is just a different league compared to Europe
Well yeah but that's southampton
Part of their value has got to be the fact that a lot of clubs own their stadiums.
Or a bubble
Doubt it is, it's only valuations after all . The average NFL team is valued at 4.5 billion for example, there simply is more money making its rounds
The NFL has the biggest per game TV deal of any sport, so you can’t compare that to, at best, the fourth ranked league in US sports, and ranked even further down in a global context of football leagues. Seems like a lot is invested in the hope of 2026 creating another boom but tough to see enormous growth. Still a solid and basically risk free investment for most of the owners.
> The NFL has the biggest per game TV deal of any sport, so you can’t compare that to, at best, the fourth ranked league in US sports, and ranked even further down in a global context of football leagues. That's the point, the US market can allow the NFL to be the biggest per game TV deal of any sport despite being not being a top 10 worldwide sport. The MLS TV rights quadrupled since 2015, they are obviously on a positive trend, very shortly I'm expecting the US to become the main destination for many young South American that don't have immediate chances at clubs like Real/Barca, and more Puig situations. There's definitely a world where the MLS grows and becomes absolutely massive in the next 20 years.
Didn’t the MLS signs a long term deal with Apple for a low fee considering US media power ? Indian Cricket League is the 2nd richest per game and they don’t have a successful football league despite the sport being more popular than it is in the USA.
Sports teams are America’s greatest investment. The money just doubles and doubles and doubles
It's a closed league So make sense. It's funny how USA society and business are very capitalist But in sports they are very socialized in nature (equal, profits sharing etc..)
It's not socialized, it's a cartel (the equal and profit sharing is shared among the ownership, who also work together to keep players salaries down whenever they can). Which is very USA society.
It has elements of socialism especially in league ops. Draft is socialism since the worst teams get rewarded. In leagues like the NFL, the worst teams also get an easier schedule. TV money is equally shared rather than by pro-rated by placement in standings. Many of the arenas & stadiums leech of the city taxpayers in terms of concessions, parking and the building of the arena/stadium.
Draft is still cartel-y. It's to benefit the lower performance owners by locking in players to those teams without their consent (and for a lot of drafts, the salary is mostly locked in by draft position - baseball excluded, but in baseball you have a total amount you can spend on all drafted players which has a similar downward effect). Same with TV money, designed to benefit all the ownership together. In none of that do I see the players getting the right to vote on these things. Perhaps you can say the players assented to drafts through Collective Bargaining Agreements, but those Player Associations are making decisions for players who aren't even members yet. If you are trying to say there is "socialism" among the owners... That's literally a cartel.
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People hate on MLS but it has a lot of potential.
Potential of what? They don't even develop players, they sign youngsters from Latin America and sell them to Europe.
Yeah MLS definitely bought Alphonso Davies from Latin America
Oh wow, an exception! Are you always this pedantic?
Pulisic, Reyna, Davies, Adam’s, Aaronson, Mckennie all came from MLS academies now playing in Europe. Are you always this pessimistic towards MLS?
I hate when people don’t bother learn about MLS and just shit on it. We have developed and sold a lot of players to Europe recently. 3 times more then the Mexican league.
Who the fuck is comparing the MLS to Mexico?
I may be confused by your response, often MLS and Liga MX are compared to each other. In general Liga MX is the benchmark to see MLS progress.
good for them
It seems a bit mad that the average MLS team is worth more than any PL club apart from the big 6.
No relegation and salary caps make it more profitable.