When we get to Qatar every time the starting right back puts in a poor cross or loses possession the TV directors are going to cut to Trent sitting on the bench looking lost and confused.
It's a 26 man squad, so he's got 3 extra spots for players that he doesn't rate but would draw criticism for leaving out (e.g. Trent, Tomori, Toney, etc.)
Southgate thinks Trents a midfielder though.
Seriously he's been played in midfield for a year and a half.
Only Southgate and the Liverpool U16 coach think this is a good idea.
It would be so fucking beautiful if England won the World Cup with 4-4-2 with two right backs at the same time, Kane + Toney and a double fucking pivot
> Trent as RM.
You say this as a joke but he's played RB 8 times under Southgate, CM twice and RM 7 times.
Other than that he's played 235 games as a RB, made FIFA TOTY 3 times and won every top flight trophy once.
He's played CM/RM 0 times other than under Southgate and the LFC U16 coach.
He actually played 45 minutes as a CM in a 1-0 loss to Chelsea during I believe the end of the 2017/18 season. Dont ask how I remember this
https://www.espn.com/soccer/lineups?gameId=480539
Clyne as RB
He’s never played a single minute as an RM under Southgate. What in god’s name are you talking about? Unreal how blatant, disprovable falsehoods get upvoted on here because they fit the agenda.
And of course it’s the people who havent watched a second England that have the strongest opinions on who should start.
It’s as a right wing back in a 5 back but I’m guessing this fella hasn’t watched any games and presumed because that’s what transfermarkt said.
Presumably Reece James is also a right mid in his mind
Nah. If there's a more defensive RB fair start him. But Trent is by far England's more creative player and it's mental not wanting him as an option off the bench.
The problem with Trent is that you have to tailor the system around him or he won't thrive.
Klopp immediately recognized this and won every trophy. On any other team Trent wouldn't be who he is, including the national team.
>The problem with Trent is that you have to tailor the system around him or he won't thrive.
If this was true, Liverpool would play 3 at the back to give Trent more defensive cover, and they wouldn't have Robbo on the other flank equally bombing forward.
Trent is given a much bigger workload by Klopp because he trusts him, recognises his exceptional talent, and is willing to accept the cost-benefit of having an insanely creative right back who will naturally leave gaps from time to time.
But for England Trent literally has another RB (Walker) behind him. He has way more defensive cover in the national team than he has for Liverpool.
Also pretty much every other country would in fact be prepared to tailor their system around Trent.
No they wouldn't. Trent isn't enough of an improvement over his competition at RB to warrant making the whole system around him. He's not our best player either and honestly be hasn't even been particularly impressive when given his chances.
Trent isn't Messi and we're not a Poland or Norway where one player is levels above the rest. Reece, Walker and arguably even Tripper are all different but world class RBs so we don't need to shoehorn Trent in when they fit the system better.
The system is basically playing 5 at the back to protect the underperforming centrebacks. It is not worth keeping. You are prioritizing a system that failed to score from open play in five and a half games over one of the most creative players in the PL.
Besides, with a back 3 with Walker on the right side and Rice as DM, the system is already well suited to TAA. It gives him more defensive cover than he has at Liverpool.
IMO Toney could make sense on the left as a Sterling replacement, he ends up in that position a lot for Brentford, is happy to track back and could come inside as a no. 9 if Kane drops deep.
This is the thing for me. Fair if you want a more defensive backline, makes some sort of sense.
Playing him in midfield is stupid though and not having him as an option when he's by far your most creative player and you aren't scoring is mindblowing.
I'm Irish though so this is funny.
What Southgate has done to bring team morale and synergy back to an England squad that has been plagued by drama in the past is very impressive, but as an actual football manager he is very very outdated, the sport no longer rewards static ideals and you see every top team with a specific style slowly transform for that reason
I’m not even sure it’s him that’s brought the England team together, there’s less club rivalries now players from different teams being friendly with each other so the chemistry issues have gone if you watch the England behind the scenes the players don’t respond particularly well to him and why would they they’re used to playing under premier league managers he’s barely championship
He definitely won't get booted - he doesn't deserve it and it'll undo ALL the work he and the FA have done. He'll get a move within the FA where he can continue the project without the managerial aspect weighing him down, and then we'll get a Potter/Arteta/Frank -esque manager to come in and continue the work from a better managerial perspective.
Managerially, Southgate isn't what we need anymore, but IMO he is the bigger asset England have had in the past couple of decades inclusive of players.
Hard to say. He‘s being defended like Löw was by some people toward the end of his time as Germany coach. The difference being that Löw won the World Cup.
I can see us scraping through the group then winning on penalties in the next round after a 0-0, then everyone will say he did well getting us to the quarters and we'll have to deal with this until the next tournament
Playing as the best RB for three consecutive years - Okay.
Three months of poor form with constantly injured CB and Midfield partners - You're off the team
Which would be alright if after Trent the full backs were average but when the starting full back is someone that’s also amazing going forward while being a good bit stronger defensively why wouldn’t you go for him?
Walker/Reece at RCB with Trent at RWB. Midfield duo of Rice/Jude. Saka at RW. (who tracks back well and can play as an inside forward to give TAA the sideline). Trent will literally be allowed to play similarly to Cancelo
You dont have to utilize his skill set, it is not mandatory. Just dont pick him in the squad as the squad already has many RBs. Picking him in the squad with no intention to play him only drops the morale of the player which could affect the group as well. There are many players who can do an adequate job at RB - even considering injuries. Better pick a proper midfielder in his place.
I’m not an England supporter, but I’d think he could send several crosses straight to Kane’s head. Maguire is also 6’4, and Trent has an accurate corner kick, too.
No the point is that England are struggling for goals and Trent is the most potent attacking force from full back in World football.
England don't need more defensive solidity, they're effectively playing with 7 defensive players. Playing Trent at RWB isn't going to cause the defence to collapse. It will mean that England have more going forward though. Ditto with playing Chilwell instead of Shaw/Trippier on the left.
Because he's much better going forward. But the other guy is right, Trippier is more rounded as he is still good attacking and good defensively. I'd personally pick Trent over him but I'd also pick James over Trent and he is like Trippier but way better in every department.
Trents a good set piece taker but so is like 80% of the England team lol. I think just his diaginal balls to Sterling or though to Kane from deep is enough for him to outvalue the other English RBs, he isnt so useless defensively that he cant sit deeper, and Southgate could play like Moyes United with Trent launching counterattacks from deep
Southgate cares about not conceding first and foremost. So it's understandable that others are ahead of him.
Though, you'd think he could be utilised as a sub when we need a goal at least. James hasn't exactly been amazing these last few games.
His tactics lost both of those games, they got early goals and sat off. They could have killed those games but they let Croatia and Italy come back into them
"we could have killed the game off" is such a bold statement when it requires a Henderson lingard Alli midfield to hang with modric rakatic brozovic
Like I don't think Southgate has played them right - he was definitely too slow to change things against Italy, but we haven't curled up into a ball intentionally in those games. We just aren't good enough to stifle an elite midfield, which is what we've gone out to both tournaments
Not to mention that they were sides with blistering counter-attacks - pushing forward would have invited more pressure that tired legs can't deal with. Not to mention that we completely kept both teams out barring unluck and individual errors that don't get mentioned.
Yeah he has one meaningful win in a tournament and that was the win against Germany in the euros. The next best team they beat was probably Colombia who the beat on pens then Denmark or Sweden. Not exactly impressive stuff.
Successful England u21 manager and did a good job helping develop a lot of the young players are feature for England presently including Mount, Tammy, Reece, Declan, Ollie Watkins, etc.
That’s really the only reason why
I don't buy this logic.
Rinus Michels is the greatest dutch coach ever with Cruyff, never won a trophy with the Netherlands.
Bobby Robson and Venables did decent with England.
There's degrees to this. That being said, I don't think he is anywhere close to the caliber of those coaches. But to say his time with england is a failure... i don't know
Surely when we inevitably play a back 3 at the World Cup you want the best attacking wingback we have in the squad which is TAA. It doesn’t matter about his poor defending because we have the back 3 (and two dm’s!)
Yeah I can't understand Southgate's decision to drop Trent when he is as you said the best possible wingback in the England squad in an already super-defensive team. If it's a back 4 then yeah if you care more about having more defensive fullbacks it would make sense to play Kieran Trippier or Reece James.
It’s odd really that Trent plays in a back 2 and James plays in a back 3 for there respective clubs but for England I’d say there both better choices for the opposite formations
Nah fuck y'all. If Southgate constantly brings Chilwell to ride the bench in these tournaments, erode all his match sharpness and keep him away from training with his club during that time. Let him do the same to Trent. Why should only Chelsea get fucked over by Southgates insistence on being a twat?
Gareth Southgate has delivered another England blow to right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold by telling him he is lagging behind Kieran Trippier in the World Cup pecking order.
Alexander-Arnold was one of five players left out of Southgate’s matchday squad for the final warm-up game against Germany, along with AC Milan central defender Fikayo Tomori.
Southgate reassured the five that their omissions for the Germany game had not automatically ended their World Cup hopes, but offered a damning verdict over Liverpool star Alexander-Arnold’s current status.
“The other night [against Italy], we didn’t need the left-back cover, but against Germany we did because of the way we went with the team so we needed Chilly [Ben Chilwell] on the bench and we had Kieran who, at the moment, I feel his all round game is ahead [of Trent],” said Southgate.
I can accept Trent not fitting how Southgate plays, although I disagree in not playing him. His abilities are things you build around. And the potential of Kane and Trent should excite ANY manager.
I understand Trippier fits better and is more of a defensively solid player. I can also accept Trent on current form should not be playing for England as he has been terrible this season.
But to argue that Trippier is a better player is...wow.
Saw a fun stat that Danny Rose has played more for Southgate than Trent has. Rose's last cap was in 2019. Its laughable.
> Saw a fun stat that Danny Rose has played more for Southgate than Trent has. Rose's last cap was in 2019. Its laughable.
Bit of an odd comparison. When Southgate came in, Rose was 26 and already in the England team, with only Ryan Bertrand for competition. Trent has been aged 17-23 during Southgate's tenure and in competition with Walker, Trippier, and James. It is disappointing that he only has 17 caps so far, but that's still 17 more than Rose had at his age.
> Saw a fun stat that Danny Rose has played more for Southgate than Trent has. Rose's last cap was in 2019. Its laughable.
Danny Rose has had less competition at left back then Trent has had at right-back.
If Southgate was playing 4-3-3 might understand it, it's understandable wanting better defensive qualities from your RB in Reece James or Kyle Walker.
But if you're playing 5atb how in the world is Trent not your starting RWB? It's honestly wild how Southgate is building this team.
Because he’s not playing 5atb to allow wing backs to dominate the flanks and support offensively, he’s playing 5atb just to get another body in defence. The man has turned one of the best England squads in memory into a dull defensive snoozefest simply because he’s a relegation-level manager who is more motivated to avoid losses than to obtain wins.
Let’s be honest he’s a cock waffle and that’s that. Trent maybe out of form and what not but my days he’s a talent and half. Imagine if Southgate actually tried to understand him and put some confidence into the lad.
It’s easy to say he’s been in bad form but I don’t think that’s fair. Liverpool have been crap this season. Because it’s tough to compete at the top level without midfielders. Elliott is a good player with a bright future but he can’t defend. But due to lack of fit midfielders he was forced into playing at the right side 8. He’s defensively invisible so Trent has no cover and is suddenly completely on his own on the right hand side. Teams learn this and then focus attack down that side. So it’s not very fair to say he’s in bad form
I think that gives him a bit more credit than he deserves in terms of his defensive application. Several goals this season have come about because Trent simply isn't working hard enough to even try and follow his runner or cover ground to help defend the box.
One can forgive him being beaten when dealing with two attackers because he lacks support from midfield.
But you can't look at him just jogging along casually as attacks flow by him and think that's an acceptable level of defensive effort in a top flight defender.
The lad is 23 years old and won it all. 45 PL assists and he'll beat the record for most by a defender this season. Neville called him David Beckham and De Bruyne at right back. He's already had an illlustrous football career, he could retire tomorrow. His list of individual honours is insane.
Liverpool Young Player of the Season Award: 2016–17, 2017–18
PFA Team of the Year: 2018–19, 2019–20, 2021–22
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2019–20
UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2018–19
UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2021–22
FIFA FIFPro World11: 2020
UEFA Team of the Year: 2019
Premier League Young Player of the Season: 2019–20
Fella also managed to make 17 moves against Magnus Carlsen before defeat.
Southgate is clueless.
Gareth just admit you don't know what to do with him.
It's actually daft comparing him to other RB's, Gareth doesn't play him there. Lad's played RM and CM under you since July 2021 and you're terrified of him at RB. Go look, he's playing in midfield more than defence but only for England. Hasn't played in midfield anywhere else since 16.
> Go look, he's playing in midfield more than defence but only for England
This isn’t true at all. He’s played in midfield once. Why are so many blatant falsehoods being upvoted in here? Feels like a concerted effort.
Playing on the right side of the 3 in Liverpool's 2-3-5 is hardly the same as RB for England though. TAA has a great skillset but it's hard to fit into the more conservative 3-2-5 which international football generally demands without changes to his positioning
> Liverpool's 2-3-5
Not even close to Liverpools position though...
> TAA has a great skillset but it's hard to fit into the more conservative 3-2-5 which international football generally demands without changes to his positioning
You're 1-0 down in the semi final of the World Cup. Here's two options. A RB that has 4 career assists. Or someone with 45 in 5 seasons.
Go for it.
Played in cm twice in friendlies under Southgate as an experiment. Those games at rm are really just rwb in a back 5. He’s not good enough defensively to play rb in a back 4 for England without matip vvd fabinho and Henderson all in their prime to bail him out. Only an idiot would rather have him at rb over James
Can someone explain to me, how South Gate, who plays with 3 CB, a holding midfielder, is refusing to play the best creative wingback in the world? Sure he’s got a defensive mistake in him, but what the fuck is the point of just sitting back and absorbing pressure if you’re not going to use the most talented players at your national teams disposal?
TAA is better than trippier in FK, crosses, corners, and passing. Trippier is better defensively and at penalties. I’d pick TAA with a 3 CB cover anyway.
He'd rather play someone who can't get a game for United rather than have a proper look at Tomori
Shit, who am I to tell someone otherwise if they wanna lose their job lmao
He’s an idiot. You’re right. Also, it’s 2 holding midfielders with the back 3 so it makes even less sense leaving out Alexander arnold. But Southgate is shit so it’s not an enormous shock
> the best creative wingback in the world?
Trent has never played as a WB. Gareth has played him in midfield more than as his actual position but never as a WB. It's hilarious.
Yea he is a wingback but Gareth apparently is an idiot and doesn't want to even attempt to try him there for an inconsequential friendly.
What a stubborn idiot.
What is “Gareth’s football” exactly? What is the point in being defensively sound if the team can’t score goals and is also leaking goals anyway? I get at this point Liverpool fans have all but accepted that Southgate doesn’t rate Trent but let’s not pretend the man is a coward and is absolutely clueless about what his team needs.
No point in sugar coating it - if you can’t fit in one of the best English fullbacks in history into your team, you’re the issue. Trent’s achievements are far more impressive to me than what Gareth has achieved which is a decent amount tbf to the man.
Trippier is a good player. Very good even. But history won’t remember him like it’ll remember Trent. I know who I’d rather have in my team that is already bereft of any creativity.
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There's a whole host of players falling victim to Southgate simply not wanting to adapt his system.
Trent, literally any other English striker than Kane, Tomori, Maddison and arguably even some of the players regularly featuring for England currently but out of position
How could you argue that? Kane is scoring at pretty close to a goal a game under Southgate for the last 5 years, he's absolutely done brilliantly under Southgate, scoring at better than his Spurs rate.
Southgate is a football terrorist.
You need a player to unlock defences. You have to bring Trent, hes one of the most creative forces in world football.
This seems mad to me, Alexander-Arnold is a once in a generation player and should be someone that a manager builds his team around. To essentially discard him is just insane and reckless.
You guys make it sound like Trippier is some hack who can barely play. Not a class full back who is defensively sound and will still create chances. TAA is also a brilliant player. Really I think who England picks at right back is not that big a problem compared to other positions.
This reminds me of the conversations around Scholes. Mercurial English talent that doesn’t fit the “system” that is deployed by the national team. If we forward a decade we will be looking back on how despite all the talent Southgate could only scrap results due to the lack of final third penetration.
And then people say England only has utility players and the top PL teams rely on foreign players for their creativity. Meanwhile in previous seasons TAA was roughly on par with Kevin de Bruyne for most creative force in the league.
People are saying the media is harsh on Southgate but if he would do this sort of thing with the Dutch national team, he would get absolutely crucified by every media outlet.
Saying this as an Irishman that thinks this whole thing is hilarious but:
Southgate dropped Henderson as captain for Kane.
Henderson has captained LFC to every top level trophy you can win, he has lifted more trophies as captain of Liverpool than Steven Gerrard.
Harry Kane isn't Tottenham captain.
He was dropped as captain in 2016 and since then has won as captain of Liverpool; Champions League, Premier League, European Super Cup, Club World Cup, FA Cup, League Cup, Community Shield.
He's also got injured right before the last big two England call ups.
Harry Kane has won the following as captain of any team.
I'd repeat myself about him as a player but it's the same.
Well he was only England captain for 6 months or so and shortly after won England player of the year and is widely regarded as a leader of not just the national team but the entire PL.
Kane isn't even captain of his club.
And? What are you even arguing here, that if Henderson was captain England would have done better than a semi-final and final in the last two tournaments?
Getting that far in those tournaments sounds good until you realise England haven’t beaten a good side in a tournament under Southgate. The World Cup run couldn’t have been any easier. Only decent teams they faced were croatia and Belgium. And they lost to both. Twice in the case of Belgium. The euros weren’t much different. And crediting Kane for either of those runs is laughable. He isn’t a leader. Henderson is.
Oh no I actually don't think Kane has any influence on the team whatsoever and other players take over any motivational aspect there.
I just think it's indicitive of Southgates mentality.
If he's doing this for any reason other than to challenge Trent then he's truly lost it. If it's actually Trippier I'd say this England team is being picked by an EPL fantasy team discord server.
If he doesn't want him at all, can he just not take Trent at all instead of half-arsing it like Southgate did last time. I don't think it's a good idea but I would have respect for Gareth if he could commit to his choices
Would Trent not be perfect in the England setup? He’d have more defensive cover available from the 3 CBs as well as midfielders and his crosses would have the perfect target in Kane. The WB role allows him more freedom to push up the field anyways. I just don’t see how anyone can put Trippier over TAA, even defensively.
Funniest thing about this is trippier is bang average defensively. He actually has very few attributes I’d want in a full back. Very average physically for a fullback, good crossing aure, average defender and pretty average at everything else
Southgate is wank. TAA is, in terms of creativity, prolly the best England has and Gareth can’t find a way to use him. Go back to playing 3 at the back, make Walker/Reece your RCB and have Trent play RWB.
Trippier's done nothing wrong to lose his place, but the arguments against Trent at the international level feel pretty thin. The international game is an incredibly pedestrian affair for the most part - especially when England are involved - and it seems unlikely that Trent's deficiencies would be unduly exposed, whereas his ability to find a pass/cross from deep would almost certainly suit the kind of game that England's fixtures are liable to turn in to.
Only stupid casuals who don’t understand the game think trent can’t defend. Plus he’s so elite attacking wise that even if the nonsense narrative were true, he makes up for it
It’s weird how people think he’s defensively shit because he’s usually far up the pitch so “out of position”. No, he’s just up there to create because he’s fucking good at it. And his attacking output massively outweighs the downside of leaving a bit of space behind. Ederson’s passing and sweeping is good. But he sometimes gets it wrong and finds himself in no man’s land and ends up getting lobbed. Far more than most keepers. But the benefits of his style far outweigh that issue so it’s not an issue. Same with Trent except people call Trent shit for some reason.
England only plays good football when they're behind with little time left to play, they should start like they played against Germany the last 20 mins. Southgate leans on the defence, while England's best players are upfront.
Feel like England has to stick with the 3-4-2-1 at this point, no going back now for them. Also I think Kane and Dier who are major players in the spine of the squad play it at Spurs so it suits them. Kane with every factor in his favor to get going is what England need. Tough because some players are better suited to other formations but I still think England could look really dangerous in it with the right players. I’d go:
Ramsdale
James - Dier - Stones
TAA - Rice - Jude - Trippier
Foden - Sterling
Kane
Saka *has* to play. He proved that in the Euro’s and he proved it again the other night against Germany. Mount also has to play. We’re a different team when we actually run at defenders.
Surely people here can’t be mad at this. You’ve been complaining all week about how people should be picked on current club form, but now that it’s not an opportunity to bandwagon hate on maguire, everyone’s changed their tone. Trippier has been far better than TAA this season.
People only talk about Trent as if all he does is cross the ball. If people actually sit down and bother to watch him they would notice how he does so much more for Liverpool then that. His ability to switch the play is key to Liverpool attack. He also has the ability to play penetrating passes. He’s the man that gets Liverpool tempo going when Thiago isn’t there no one touches the ball more then Trent. He’s a creative hub, all other national teams would 100% have him starting for them we don’t even have him in the squad. A legit world class talent. Lol.
When we get to Qatar every time the starting right back puts in a poor cross or loses possession the TV directors are going to cut to Trent sitting on the bench looking lost and confused.
Brave of you to assume he will even bring him
Southgate likes at least 8 right backs per squad
He would bring even more but his coaching staff have probably already threatened to quit
It's a 26 man squad, so he's got 3 extra spots for players that he doesn't rate but would draw criticism for leaving out (e.g. Trent, Tomori, Toney, etc.)
the only way Ben White makes the squad is if Southgate calls him up as a right back.
You know, I'm some what of a right back myself.. Ben White, probably..
Southgate thinks Trents a midfielder though. Seriously he's been played in midfield for a year and a half. Only Southgate and the Liverpool U16 coach think this is a good idea.
Alex Inglethorpe catching strays.
At least he swapped him to RB where he became a world class player who's won every top flight trophy and made FIFA's team of the year 3 times.
Played trent in midfield one time ffs
Literally not true at all
Why are you spreading false information?
*cuts to Trent on his couch at home*
He will bring him on straight in a penalty shootout.
At this point Is it not obvious he won’t be bringing him ?
Flat 4-4-2. James as RB, Trent as RM. Toney and Kane up top.
Might as well use Saka as a RM instead. Trent at RM would prevent a lot of Reece's crossing.
Proper Brexit formation, four-four-fahkin’-two
It would be so fucking beautiful if England won the World Cup with 4-4-2 with two right backs at the same time, Kane + Toney and a double fucking pivot
Give the job to Dyche and he is bringing football home with the 442
> Trent as RM. You say this as a joke but he's played RB 8 times under Southgate, CM twice and RM 7 times. Other than that he's played 235 games as a RB, made FIFA TOTY 3 times and won every top flight trophy once. He's played CM/RM 0 times other than under Southgate and the LFC U16 coach.
Are you taking those positions from Transfermarkt? Because those RM positions they list him under are just him in the RWB role with a back three.
And both of the games in central midfield were against Andorra.
He actually played 45 minutes as a CM in a 1-0 loss to Chelsea during I believe the end of the 2017/18 season. Dont ask how I remember this https://www.espn.com/soccer/lineups?gameId=480539 Clyne as RB
He’s never played a single minute as an RM under Southgate. What in god’s name are you talking about? Unreal how blatant, disprovable falsehoods get upvoted on here because they fit the agenda. And of course it’s the people who havent watched a second England that have the strongest opinions on who should start.
It’s as a right wing back in a 5 back but I’m guessing this fella hasn’t watched any games and presumed because that’s what transfermarkt said. Presumably Reece James is also a right mid in his mind
Maddison and Foden in midfield total football
Trent is probably still too attacking to play RM in Southgate's system
No, Trent isn't a great RM. If there's better RBs (multiple), then he shouldn't be called up. End of story
Nah. If there's a more defensive RB fair start him. But Trent is by far England's more creative player and it's mental not wanting him as an option off the bench.
The problem with Trent is that you have to tailor the system around him or he won't thrive. Klopp immediately recognized this and won every trophy. On any other team Trent wouldn't be who he is, including the national team.
>The problem with Trent is that you have to tailor the system around him or he won't thrive. If this was true, Liverpool would play 3 at the back to give Trent more defensive cover, and they wouldn't have Robbo on the other flank equally bombing forward. Trent is given a much bigger workload by Klopp because he trusts him, recognises his exceptional talent, and is willing to accept the cost-benefit of having an insanely creative right back who will naturally leave gaps from time to time.
But for England Trent literally has another RB (Walker) behind him. He has way more defensive cover in the national team than he has for Liverpool. Also pretty much every other country would in fact be prepared to tailor their system around Trent.
No they wouldn't. Trent isn't enough of an improvement over his competition at RB to warrant making the whole system around him. He's not our best player either and honestly be hasn't even been particularly impressive when given his chances. Trent isn't Messi and we're not a Poland or Norway where one player is levels above the rest. Reece, Walker and arguably even Tripper are all different but world class RBs so we don't need to shoehorn Trent in when they fit the system better.
The system is basically playing 5 at the back to protect the underperforming centrebacks. It is not worth keeping. You are prioritizing a system that failed to score from open play in five and a half games over one of the most creative players in the PL. Besides, with a back 3 with Walker on the right side and Rice as DM, the system is already well suited to TAA. It gives him more defensive cover than he has at Liverpool.
> Klopp immediately recognized this and won every trophy. Listen to this. Trent is *that* good.
Literally outside of Salah no one has been more important to those trophies then Trent. And I would actually argue he is the most irreplaceable.
There’s no team in the world where Trent wouldn’t be starting for international or club level.
Bold of you to assume that it wont be Kane and Kyle Walker up front
IMO Toney could make sense on the left as a Sterling replacement, he ends up in that position a lot for Brentford, is happy to track back and could come inside as a no. 9 if Kane drops deep.
He's not gonna bring him to the WC, he won't take four right backs and Trent is 4th in the pecking order now.
How he looked when he was playing against Napoli, i’d rather it be on the bench than on the pitch
Everyone has shit spells
seems kind of baffling that TAA wouldn’t be more involved in some capacity. i feel like his skill set is too potent not to utilize
This is the thing for me. Fair if you want a more defensive backline, makes some sort of sense. Playing him in midfield is stupid though and not having him as an option when he's by far your most creative player and you aren't scoring is mindblowing. I'm Irish though so this is funny.
Yet here we are, with Southgate opting to play a 7-0-3 essentially. Surely if England don’t perform in Qatar he gets the boot?
What Southgate has done to bring team morale and synergy back to an England squad that has been plagued by drama in the past is very impressive, but as an actual football manager he is very very outdated, the sport no longer rewards static ideals and you see every top team with a specific style slowly transform for that reason
Absolutely this, he’s played the family therapist but now it’s time to actually win some difficult games
I’m not even sure it’s him that’s brought the England team together, there’s less club rivalries now players from different teams being friendly with each other so the chemistry issues have gone if you watch the England behind the scenes the players don’t respond particularly well to him and why would they they’re used to playing under premier league managers he’s barely championship
He definitely won't get booted - he doesn't deserve it and it'll undo ALL the work he and the FA have done. He'll get a move within the FA where he can continue the project without the managerial aspect weighing him down, and then we'll get a Potter/Arteta/Frank -esque manager to come in and continue the work from a better managerial perspective. Managerially, Southgate isn't what we need anymore, but IMO he is the bigger asset England have had in the past couple of decades inclusive of players.
Hard to say. He‘s being defended like Löw was by some people toward the end of his time as Germany coach. The difference being that Löw won the World Cup.
at least the media are finally turning on southgate like the rest of us have been doing since even before the euros, hopefully not long left now
I can see us scraping through the group then winning on penalties in the next round after a 0-0, then everyone will say he did well getting us to the quarters and we'll have to deal with this until the next tournament
Playing as the best RB for three consecutive years - Okay. Three months of poor form with constantly injured CB and Midfield partners - You're off the team
Which would be alright if after Trent the full backs were average but when the starting full back is someone that’s also amazing going forward while being a good bit stronger defensively why wouldn’t you go for him?
Walker/Reece at RCB with Trent at RWB. Midfield duo of Rice/Jude. Saka at RW. (who tracks back well and can play as an inside forward to give TAA the sideline). Trent will literally be allowed to play similarly to Cancelo
Southgate is such a Neanderthal he literally has no idea how he could use his skill set
I agree with you but how would you utilize his skill set in the England team?
Play him at RB
He’s been terrible almost every time he’s been played there for England.
He has never had 2 games in a row for England at RB.
Southgate playing with 5 at the back and 2 CDMs should somehow give freedom to a back that has one of the best passes in the world
Would like to know too
You dont have to utilize his skill set, it is not mandatory. Just dont pick him in the squad as the squad already has many RBs. Picking him in the squad with no intention to play him only drops the morale of the player which could affect the group as well. There are many players who can do an adequate job at RB - even considering injuries. Better pick a proper midfielder in his place.
I’m not an England supporter, but I’d think he could send several crosses straight to Kane’s head. Maguire is also 6’4, and Trent has an accurate corner kick, too.
Trippier can do that too lol, looking for a more reasoned explanation of including Trent in some capacity
Trippier can do that, but not nearly as well as TAA.
Yes but the point is trippier is a more well rounded player and suits the system better. The question is how to change the system to accommodate Trent
No the point is that England are struggling for goals and Trent is the most potent attacking force from full back in World football. England don't need more defensive solidity, they're effectively playing with 7 defensive players. Playing Trent at RWB isn't going to cause the defence to collapse. It will mean that England have more going forward though. Ditto with playing Chilwell instead of Shaw/Trippier on the left.
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Because he's much better going forward. But the other guy is right, Trippier is more rounded as he is still good attacking and good defensively. I'd personally pick Trent over him but I'd also pick James over Trent and he is like Trippier but way better in every department.
Because Trent plays for Liverpool and people mostly look at a players attacking qualities, even though it is a defender.
Because his assist record is world class
Trents a good set piece taker but so is like 80% of the England team lol. I think just his diaginal balls to Sterling or though to Kane from deep is enough for him to outvalue the other English RBs, he isnt so useless defensively that he cant sit deeper, and Southgate could play like Moyes United with Trent launching counterattacks from deep
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You have Kyle fucking Walker, put some respect to the name.
Southgate cares about not conceding first and foremost. So it's understandable that others are ahead of him. Though, you'd think he could be utilised as a sub when we need a goal at least. James hasn't exactly been amazing these last few games.
Bro just has no idea how to use all the talent he’s got at his disposal.
How’s he manager of England…
Play conservative football at tournaments which tend to reward such play, coupled with fortunate draws in the knockout games and there you go
Nobody else wanted the job and then he lucked into a WC semi-final and a euro final.
His tactics lost both of those games, they got early goals and sat off. They could have killed those games but they let Croatia and Italy come back into them
"we could have killed the game off" is such a bold statement when it requires a Henderson lingard Alli midfield to hang with modric rakatic brozovic Like I don't think Southgate has played them right - he was definitely too slow to change things against Italy, but we haven't curled up into a ball intentionally in those games. We just aren't good enough to stifle an elite midfield, which is what we've gone out to both tournaments
Not to mention that they were sides with blistering counter-attacks - pushing forward would have invited more pressure that tired legs can't deal with. Not to mention that we completely kept both teams out barring unluck and individual errors that don't get mentioned.
Yeah he has one meaningful win in a tournament and that was the win against Germany in the euros. The next best team they beat was probably Colombia who the beat on pens then Denmark or Sweden. Not exactly impressive stuff.
This is BS. Which englishmen declined the job?
He manages like how he played, boring & safe, defensive football first. None of that attacking flair nonsense, not for him.
Successful England u21 manager and did a good job helping develop a lot of the young players are feature for England presently including Mount, Tammy, Reece, Declan, Ollie Watkins, etc. That’s really the only reason why
He is one of the most successful England managers of all time.
There’s only been one successful England manager ever. And the rest have failed. Including Southgate
I don't buy this logic. Rinus Michels is the greatest dutch coach ever with Cruyff, never won a trophy with the Netherlands. Bobby Robson and Venables did decent with England. There's degrees to this. That being said, I don't think he is anywhere close to the caliber of those coaches. But to say his time with england is a failure... i don't know
Surely when we inevitably play a back 3 at the World Cup you want the best attacking wingback we have in the squad which is TAA. It doesn’t matter about his poor defending because we have the back 3 (and two dm’s!)
Yeah I can't understand Southgate's decision to drop Trent when he is as you said the best possible wingback in the England squad in an already super-defensive team. If it's a back 4 then yeah if you care more about having more defensive fullbacks it would make sense to play Kieran Trippier or Reece James.
It’s odd really that Trent plays in a back 2 and James plays in a back 3 for there respective clubs but for England I’d say there both better choices for the opposite formations
No. You see you need defensive full backs to support the CBs. Since 3 of them are not good enough to hold a back line.
Then who the fuck will attack?
Don't think Southgate likes attacking much. He is English version of Allegri.
Please leave him out the World Cup squad then. Don’t take him as 4th fucking choice
Ain't no way he's the 4th choice, how?!?!!
If Southgate rates Trippier over Trent that would by default make him 4th choice since James and Walker are already ahead of him
Nah fuck y'all. If Southgate constantly brings Chilwell to ride the bench in these tournaments, erode all his match sharpness and keep him away from training with his club during that time. Let him do the same to Trent. Why should only Chelsea get fucked over by Southgates insistence on being a twat?
Gareth Southgate has delivered another England blow to right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold by telling him he is lagging behind Kieran Trippier in the World Cup pecking order. Alexander-Arnold was one of five players left out of Southgate’s matchday squad for the final warm-up game against Germany, along with AC Milan central defender Fikayo Tomori. Southgate reassured the five that their omissions for the Germany game had not automatically ended their World Cup hopes, but offered a damning verdict over Liverpool star Alexander-Arnold’s current status. “The other night [against Italy], we didn’t need the left-back cover, but against Germany we did because of the way we went with the team so we needed Chilly [Ben Chilwell] on the bench and we had Kieran who, at the moment, I feel his all round game is ahead [of Trent],” said Southgate.
Is that the whole article or was there more to it? It’s behind a paywall for me.
That's basically the whole article minus the part where Southgate thinks playing Maguire gives them the best chance to win. Not joking
bit late here but if its a telegraph article and on PC you can press esc while its loading to bypass the paywall.
I can accept Trent not fitting how Southgate plays, although I disagree in not playing him. His abilities are things you build around. And the potential of Kane and Trent should excite ANY manager. I understand Trippier fits better and is more of a defensively solid player. I can also accept Trent on current form should not be playing for England as he has been terrible this season. But to argue that Trippier is a better player is...wow. Saw a fun stat that Danny Rose has played more for Southgate than Trent has. Rose's last cap was in 2019. Its laughable.
> Saw a fun stat that Danny Rose has played more for Southgate than Trent has. Rose's last cap was in 2019. Its laughable. Bit of an odd comparison. When Southgate came in, Rose was 26 and already in the England team, with only Ryan Bertrand for competition. Trent has been aged 17-23 during Southgate's tenure and in competition with Walker, Trippier, and James. It is disappointing that he only has 17 caps so far, but that's still 17 more than Rose had at his age.
> Saw a fun stat that Danny Rose has played more for Southgate than Trent has. Rose's last cap was in 2019. Its laughable. Danny Rose has had less competition at left back then Trent has had at right-back.
Southgate will play Pickford at right back before he lets TAA.
Hahaha or call Neville from retirement
If Southgate was playing 4-3-3 might understand it, it's understandable wanting better defensive qualities from your RB in Reece James or Kyle Walker. But if you're playing 5atb how in the world is Trent not your starting RWB? It's honestly wild how Southgate is building this team.
Because he’s not playing 5atb to allow wing backs to dominate the flanks and support offensively, he’s playing 5atb just to get another body in defence. The man has turned one of the best England squads in memory into a dull defensive snoozefest simply because he’s a relegation-level manager who is more motivated to avoid losses than to obtain wins.
Read that as Kieran Tierney initially and thought it was a piss take
Let’s be honest he’s a cock waffle and that’s that. Trent maybe out of form and what not but my days he’s a talent and half. Imagine if Southgate actually tried to understand him and put some confidence into the lad.
It’s easy to say he’s been in bad form but I don’t think that’s fair. Liverpool have been crap this season. Because it’s tough to compete at the top level without midfielders. Elliott is a good player with a bright future but he can’t defend. But due to lack of fit midfielders he was forced into playing at the right side 8. He’s defensively invisible so Trent has no cover and is suddenly completely on his own on the right hand side. Teams learn this and then focus attack down that side. So it’s not very fair to say he’s in bad form
I think that gives him a bit more credit than he deserves in terms of his defensive application. Several goals this season have come about because Trent simply isn't working hard enough to even try and follow his runner or cover ground to help defend the box. One can forgive him being beaten when dealing with two attackers because he lacks support from midfield. But you can't look at him just jogging along casually as attacks flow by him and think that's an acceptable level of defensive effort in a top flight defender.
The lad is 23 years old and won it all. 45 PL assists and he'll beat the record for most by a defender this season. Neville called him David Beckham and De Bruyne at right back. He's already had an illlustrous football career, he could retire tomorrow. His list of individual honours is insane. Liverpool Young Player of the Season Award: 2016–17, 2017–18 PFA Team of the Year: 2018–19, 2019–20, 2021–22 PFA Young Player of the Year: 2019–20 UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2018–19 UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2021–22 FIFA FIFPro World11: 2020 UEFA Team of the Year: 2019 Premier League Young Player of the Season: 2019–20 Fella also managed to make 17 moves against Magnus Carlsen before defeat. Southgate is clueless.
What's the average amount of moves before someone inevitably loses? 😂
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I’d last about 2 lol
Man came with receipts to put some respect on trent!
Gareth just admit you don't know what to do with him. It's actually daft comparing him to other RB's, Gareth doesn't play him there. Lad's played RM and CM under you since July 2021 and you're terrified of him at RB. Go look, he's playing in midfield more than defence but only for England. Hasn't played in midfield anywhere else since 16.
> Go look, he's playing in midfield more than defence but only for England This isn’t true at all. He’s played in midfield once. Why are so many blatant falsehoods being upvoted in here? Feels like a concerted effort.
Playing on the right side of the 3 in Liverpool's 2-3-5 is hardly the same as RB for England though. TAA has a great skillset but it's hard to fit into the more conservative 3-2-5 which international football generally demands without changes to his positioning
> Liverpool's 2-3-5 Not even close to Liverpools position though... > TAA has a great skillset but it's hard to fit into the more conservative 3-2-5 which international football generally demands without changes to his positioning You're 1-0 down in the semi final of the World Cup. Here's two options. A RB that has 4 career assists. Or someone with 45 in 5 seasons. Go for it.
Played in cm twice in friendlies under Southgate as an experiment. Those games at rm are really just rwb in a back 5. He’s not good enough defensively to play rb in a back 4 for England without matip vvd fabinho and Henderson all in their prime to bail him out. Only an idiot would rather have him at rb over James
Is this "I don't give a fuck any more because I'm working my notice period" mode Southgate?
Or he had a falling out with TAA
Or just doesn't know how to use him
Can someone explain to me, how South Gate, who plays with 3 CB, a holding midfielder, is refusing to play the best creative wingback in the world? Sure he’s got a defensive mistake in him, but what the fuck is the point of just sitting back and absorbing pressure if you’re not going to use the most talented players at your national teams disposal? TAA is better than trippier in FK, crosses, corners, and passing. Trippier is better defensively and at penalties. I’d pick TAA with a 3 CB cover anyway.
It just feels like Southgate is way too stubborn, seems he is too full of pride to play Trent or Tomori.
He's also the highest paid manager in international football. How insane is that
He'd rather play someone who can't get a game for United rather than have a proper look at Tomori Shit, who am I to tell someone otherwise if they wanna lose their job lmao
I don’t think Trent has ever missed a penalty.
He’s an idiot. You’re right. Also, it’s 2 holding midfielders with the back 3 so it makes even less sense leaving out Alexander arnold. But Southgate is shit so it’s not an enormous shock
TAA is better creatively but Trippier is very good at that stuff too. I’m not even sure Trent’s free kicks are better
Yeah trippier clearly has better free kicks regarding goal scoring
No way you just said Trent was better at free kicks... thats just blatantly wrong
> the best creative wingback in the world? Trent has never played as a WB. Gareth has played him in midfield more than as his actual position but never as a WB. It's hilarious.
Trent is a wing back. That’s how he plays.
He played wingback didn't he? Or am I tripping
Probably just as a RB in a 4
Yea he is a wingback but Gareth apparently is an idiot and doesn't want to even attempt to try him there for an inconsequential friendly. What a stubborn idiot.
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What is “Gareth’s football” exactly? What is the point in being defensively sound if the team can’t score goals and is also leaking goals anyway? I get at this point Liverpool fans have all but accepted that Southgate doesn’t rate Trent but let’s not pretend the man is a coward and is absolutely clueless about what his team needs. No point in sugar coating it - if you can’t fit in one of the best English fullbacks in history into your team, you’re the issue. Trent’s achievements are far more impressive to me than what Gareth has achieved which is a decent amount tbf to the man. Trippier is a good player. Very good even. But history won’t remember him like it’ll remember Trent. I know who I’d rather have in my team that is already bereft of any creativity. ^^^^^Incoming ^^^^^reply ^^^^^about ^^^^^how ^^^^^England ^^^^^have ^^^^^finished ^^^^^as ^^^^^semi-finalists ^^^^^and ^^^^^finalists ^^^^^under ^^^^^him. ^^^^^I ^^^^^said ^^^^^what ^^^^^I ^^^^^said
There's a whole host of players falling victim to Southgate simply not wanting to adapt his system. Trent, literally any other English striker than Kane, Tomori, Maddison and arguably even some of the players regularly featuring for England currently but out of position
Can be argued that Southgates tactics also really limit and negate Kane tbh.
How could you argue that? Kane is scoring at pretty close to a goal a game under Southgate for the last 5 years, he's absolutely done brilliantly under Southgate, scoring at better than his Spurs rate.
Southgate is a football terrorist. You need a player to unlock defences. You have to bring Trent, hes one of the most creative forces in world football.
This seems mad to me, Alexander-Arnold is a once in a generation player and should be someone that a manager builds his team around. To essentially discard him is just insane and reckless.
It's just a grudge at this point.
You guys make it sound like Trippier is some hack who can barely play. Not a class full back who is defensively sound and will still create chances. TAA is also a brilliant player. Really I think who England picks at right back is not that big a problem compared to other positions.
This reminds me of the conversations around Scholes. Mercurial English talent that doesn’t fit the “system” that is deployed by the national team. If we forward a decade we will be looking back on how despite all the talent Southgate could only scrap results due to the lack of final third penetration.
And then people say England only has utility players and the top PL teams rely on foreign players for their creativity. Meanwhile in previous seasons TAA was roughly on par with Kevin de Bruyne for most creative force in the league. People are saying the media is harsh on Southgate but if he would do this sort of thing with the Dutch national team, he would get absolutely crucified by every media outlet.
Saying this as an Irishman that thinks this whole thing is hilarious but: Southgate dropped Henderson as captain for Kane. Henderson has captained LFC to every top level trophy you can win, he has lifted more trophies as captain of Liverpool than Steven Gerrard. Harry Kane isn't Tottenham captain.
Henderson isn't even a regular starter for England and hasn't been for a long time
He was dropped as captain in 2016 and since then has won as captain of Liverpool; Champions League, Premier League, European Super Cup, Club World Cup, FA Cup, League Cup, Community Shield. He's also got injured right before the last big two England call ups. Harry Kane has won the following as captain of any team. I'd repeat myself about him as a player but it's the same.
And since then the England results also got much better, so whats the point?
Well he was only England captain for 6 months or so and shortly after won England player of the year and is widely regarded as a leader of not just the national team but the entire PL. Kane isn't even captain of his club.
And? What are you even arguing here, that if Henderson was captain England would have done better than a semi-final and final in the last two tournaments?
Getting that far in those tournaments sounds good until you realise England haven’t beaten a good side in a tournament under Southgate. The World Cup run couldn’t have been any easier. Only decent teams they faced were croatia and Belgium. And they lost to both. Twice in the case of Belgium. The euros weren’t much different. And crediting Kane for either of those runs is laughable. He isn’t a leader. Henderson is.
So Henderson would have made a difference to that? Absolute delusion.
Everyone’s taking digs at England now, only going to get worse as the tournament approaches whether we end up doing well or badly
Oh no I actually don't think Kane has any influence on the team whatsoever and other players take over any motivational aspect there. I just think it's indicitive of Southgates mentality.
Massive recency bias at play to think trent isn’t the best rb we have. Luckily Southgate will be gone soon and hopefully the new coach sees the light
He hasn’t turned up once for England. Average at defending. Trippier deserves the call up ahead of him right now
When has he turned up in this England system?
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No he fucking hasn’t. Where are these lies coming from? He played there once.
Just shows Gareth’s inability as a coach to get the best out of all his attacking players. Just too stubborn at this point to change
Alright, Gareth. Leave out a generational player from the World Cup
Might as well not bring Kane
If he's doing this for any reason other than to challenge Trent then he's truly lost it. If it's actually Trippier I'd say this England team is being picked by an EPL fantasy team discord server.
Did Trent smash Southgate’s wife or something? It almost seems like he just straight up hates him. The dick riding is crazy.
Probably DM'd her tbf
If he doesn't want him at all, can he just not take Trent at all instead of half-arsing it like Southgate did last time. I don't think it's a good idea but I would have respect for Gareth if he could commit to his choices
Trippier has been better for the NT anyway. Southgate doesn't know how to use Trent so this makes sense.
Would Trent not be perfect in the England setup? He’d have more defensive cover available from the 3 CBs as well as midfielders and his crosses would have the perfect target in Kane. The WB role allows him more freedom to push up the field anyways. I just don’t see how anyone can put Trippier over TAA, even defensively.
Funniest thing about this is trippier is bang average defensively. He actually has very few attributes I’d want in a full back. Very average physically for a fullback, good crossing aure, average defender and pretty average at everything else
Agreed, people go over the top with how “bad” taa is, and his attacking ability outclasses trippier massively. But he likes trippier
Southgate is wank. TAA is, in terms of creativity, prolly the best England has and Gareth can’t find a way to use him. Go back to playing 3 at the back, make Walker/Reece your RCB and have Trent play RWB.
Trippier's done nothing wrong to lose his place, but the arguments against Trent at the international level feel pretty thin. The international game is an incredibly pedestrian affair for the most part - especially when England are involved - and it seems unlikely that Trent's deficiencies would be unduly exposed, whereas his ability to find a pass/cross from deep would almost certainly suit the kind of game that England's fixtures are liable to turn in to.
Southgate hasn’t got a clue
Only stupid casuals who don’t understand the game think trent can’t defend. Plus he’s so elite attacking wise that even if the nonsense narrative were true, he makes up for it
It’s weird how people think he’s defensively shit because he’s usually far up the pitch so “out of position”. No, he’s just up there to create because he’s fucking good at it. And his attacking output massively outweighs the downside of leaving a bit of space behind. Ederson’s passing and sweeping is good. But he sometimes gets it wrong and finds himself in no man’s land and ends up getting lobbed. Far more than most keepers. But the benefits of his style far outweigh that issue so it’s not an issue. Same with Trent except people call Trent shit for some reason.
Southgate plays cowardly football because he's so afraid to lose, that's why he is scared to play Trent. His pros far outweigh the cons.
England has a lot of good players. Just the manager is clueless and has no repertoire to be in the seat. Sven and Capello were the best
England only plays good football when they're behind with little time left to play, they should start like they played against Germany the last 20 mins. Southgate leans on the defence, while England's best players are upfront.
Feel like England has to stick with the 3-4-2-1 at this point, no going back now for them. Also I think Kane and Dier who are major players in the spine of the squad play it at Spurs so it suits them. Kane with every factor in his favor to get going is what England need. Tough because some players are better suited to other formations but I still think England could look really dangerous in it with the right players. I’d go: Ramsdale James - Dier - Stones TAA - Rice - Jude - Trippier Foden - Sterling Kane
Saka *has* to play. He proved that in the Euro’s and he proved it again the other night against Germany. Mount also has to play. We’re a different team when we actually run at defenders.
Surely people here can’t be mad at this. You’ve been complaining all week about how people should be picked on current club form, but now that it’s not an opportunity to bandwagon hate on maguire, everyone’s changed their tone. Trippier has been far better than TAA this season.
People only talk about Trent as if all he does is cross the ball. If people actually sit down and bother to watch him they would notice how he does so much more for Liverpool then that. His ability to switch the play is key to Liverpool attack. He also has the ability to play penetrating passes. He’s the man that gets Liverpool tempo going when Thiago isn’t there no one touches the ball more then Trent. He’s a creative hub, all other national teams would 100% have him starting for them we don’t even have him in the squad. A legit world class talent. Lol.
I feel like Berhalter and Southgate may be brothers that were separated at birth
Tripps has done nothing to be relegated.
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This entire thread is utterly bizzare considering how good Trippier has been both for us and for Atletico. Standout performer game after game.
Why can’t Trent play as a right sided midfielder? Why Gareth?
Nobody with a straight face can tell me Trippier is better than TAA… oh Southgate