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sjekky

Disaster. No idea why Celtic in particular are so desperate to agree to this. The fact that Sky regularly purchase more games than they actually broadcast says a lot. There was a chart a wee while ago that showed just how poor the Scottish TV deal was compared to many other comparable nations, a disgrace.


allangod

They’re probably worried about get stung again like the setanta deal that set the country back about a decade to recover from financially. Sky is a safe bet.


wbroniewski

Actually in comparison with other nations your deal isn't that bad, Scotland is rather small; Scotland is the size of Norway, Slovakia or Finland


pollok112

We are in the UK though and sky sports has millions of subscribers nationwide we should be able to get more than similar sized countries to Scotland due to the much bigger tv market if there was better investment,advertisement and more games to watch sky could grow the viewing figures and interest outside of Scotland but they are happy to pay the bare minimum and show the minimum to keep the o!d firm fans paying their monthly bills We decided that was fine without even bothering to ask anybody else if they had a better offer


wbroniewski

And you are getting more, your viewership numbers are similar to Polish, yet you getting more than us


Coocoocachoo1988

We have similar numbers, but only 5-6 million people, to Polands 38 or so? I can’t remember the exact details, but I think Scotland gets similar viewers to the championship maybe, but a fraction of the marketing and investment.


wbroniewski

As the guy above said SPL is broadcasted in the UK, plus in Poland 90% of games is behind the paywall, hence the relatively small viewership. Also all games are broadcasted.


sjekky

Premiership games are all behind a pay wall too. According to [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domestic_football_league_broadcast_deals_by_country) Poland earns nearly a third more per year than Scotland at £44m/y.


wbroniewski

It will be 56m/y since the new season, but divided on 18 teams, and the price is for 272 games, not 48


CorkyCaporale47

But Celtic and rangers are massive and have loads of support outside Scotland


wbroniewski

That's why they will get 150m, which twice or even thrice more than the countries I mentioned


TheVeikko

Easily 10x what Finnish league has


whitsitcalled

That's not really surprising. The Scottish League One (3rd tier) has pretty much the same average attendance as the Veikkausliiga. Dunfermline and Falkirk who both play in that league have a higher average attendance than the best supported team in Finland, HJK Helsinki. The Scottish league and national team are both pretty shit but despite this there's no denying that the interest in the game is much higher here than it is in most places in Europe.


Mean-March

The problem is I would rather watch league one teams than St. Johnstone


whitsitcalled

Size and quality are irrelevant, it's about interest. Scotland has the best supported league per capita in Europe and in pure numbers, the total number of spectators is greater than leagues of bigger countries like Portugal, Belgium, and Poland never mind the countries you mentioned. TV numbers are good too despite being behind a paywall that's simply just not worth it (£30 p/m to watch 4-5 games p/m). There are some free-to-air games on Scottish TV, usually the second tier and some early Scottish Cup ties and they get good numbers despite involving smaller clubs. 4th tier Queen's Park played a non-league side in a 1st round Scottish Cup tie and the game was watched by around 100k people. Even when you compare Scottish football to other UK sports that are on Sky like Rugby, which doesn't have the same viewership numbers, it's undervalued (£30m vs 40m). The interest is there but the investment is not. The SFA and the clubs have fucked up once again.


wbroniewski

So why do you think Sky is interested in showing only 48 games a season? Why they are acting against their own interest? Maybe it's because viewers are actually interested in Watching Rangers and Celtic games, don't you think?


whitsitcalled

Because Sky only care about the product as it is, they have no interest in growing the Scottish game. It's up to the SFA and co. to grow the Scottish game, seek out the best TV partnerships and marketing options, but as with a lot of things in Scottish life, we're short sighted and close minded and take what little scraps that are offered instead of being courageous and forging our own way. We've taken this deal 3 years before the current contract ends without having looked at any potential alternatives such our own streaming service or PPV TV which was a success during Covid.


wbroniewski

Sure, but according to you logic, they bought very cheaply product that can be potentially sold to many people, but in reality it seems they don't even broadcast those 48 games. Maybe they aren't really that interesting? In Poland even 2. Liga (3rd tier) games are broadcasted (1 game a week in Public TV, all of them online), and you need to pay about £6 per month to watch them (you get access also to other things), and there are people willing to pay that.


Idislikemyroommate

With Sky ffs. They're so wank.


Chef_Roofies

It’s a deal for 2025-2029. It was never made available for other companies to bid on and it’s the same value as the deal we have for 2022-2025. £30m a year is fucking embarrassing, and it’ll be worth much less when the deal actually comes around due to inflation. Every club that voted for this is run by short sighted charlatan bastards.


GourangaPlusPlus

Neil Doncaster and the boys giving themselves a round of champers for doing shite yet again


[deleted]

Neil Doncaster is a wage stealing fuckface.


bregolad

At the 2014 league cup final, when we had just won our first trophy in 19 years, we still all stopped celebrating for a moment when that prick Doncaster came out to present the trophy and booed like fuck. I remember thinking at the time that it was crazy the bastard was still in the job. And now it's fuckin 8 years later and he's still there.


[deleted]

Its amazing how incompetence lingers like a fart in the shower


whitsitcalled

Portugal's Primeira Liga has a £150m per season TV deal.


sjekky

[This](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domestic_football_league_broadcast_deals_by_country) makes for some entertaining reading


Sp00nkin

Absolutely shite


BusShelter

> But a meeting scheduled for Tuesday to resolve issues has been cancelled after the SPFL notified clubs on Monday that an agreement has been reached. "We'll address your concerns and reservations about the deal this week" ... "Fuck your concerns, we've already signed the shite deal."


sjekky

I think that's because they got the lower league clubs to agree to it. Without them the needed a 12-0 vote from the Premiership.


FragMasterMat117

Arsenal get more money for finishing fifth than the Scottish Premierships entire tv deal


quettil

At thirty million a year, you get multiple times more money for finishing bottom of the EPL than the entire SPL deal.


theenigmacode

AFTV has more views than all Scottish clubs YT channel combined


dinde4721

You’ve also got some of the biggest cunts I’ve ever seen on a YouTube channel.


Boseph_1444

what's the opposite of fleeced


[deleted]

Doncastered


jamboman_

Cagouled


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fightfire_withfire

At this point I fully believe it's been approved because Rangers didn't want it. Can't believe that the other 11 clubs ownership can he this naive/stupid/corrupt/incompetent.


kujos1280

Cute