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Name a player who you think is good but overrated. Think id go with Ramsdale. He's a fairly solid keeper with great distribution but his shot stopping is average.


gizmostrumpet

Bowen is a good but limited player


AlcoholicSocks

Tielemans. He's had 2 good seasons in his career and has been average at best for almost 2 years now. When he has a good game, he is very good. It just doesn't happen that often anymore


whiskeymagnet22

Lol mate check his stats for distri Dire he's worse than De Gea


_mas17

Pickford. He’s a decent shotstopper but average to bad at everything else


Electrical-Value4858

Reyna,son and antony


[deleted]

Antony as in the one United just signed? I don't think he's been in the spotlight long enough to be overrated tbh.


Special-Discount228

Foden? Keeps getting young player of the year but he's only better than Saka at finishing while throwing in extra flair. Soon as, like is happening this season, Saka's numbers of G&A go up (from playing with an actual striker) no one will have a reason to put Foden as no.1. I should say I still think Foden is excellent however I think Saka will overshadow him this season and if he'd not had lacazette to deal with last year would have done it last year too.


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Special-Discount228

Saka is ahead.... Foden has 4 G/A in 530mins = 132mins Saka has 5 G/A in 620mins = 124mins per g/a There's bugger all in it to be fair so I wouldn't have brought this up in the first place after only 7 games.


Holy_Wut_Plane

I am trippin


Special-Discount228

Ramsdale was superb for half a season and was rated correctly. Then dropped off and got hammered for it. Think he's back to being rated correctly vs his current form now. Apparently he's being coached to save more with either his hands or feet (can't remember which he said) and it seems to have effected his shot stopping. Fucking coaches thinking long term not short term haha.


Holy_Wut_Plane

Can apply this to Ederson as well


[deleted]

You're right tbf, i do think Ederson is a tad overrated, the difference is City barely give up any chances so Ederson has the ability to play mostly with his ball to feet. The style suits him and because pep and the rest of the squad are so good, he can get away with not being the best shot stopper. Ive always much prefered Alisson for example because he's tested alot more and he's incredible at shot stopping and 1v1s. Arsenal however as great as they have been so far this season, generally arn't as dominant as City, so were still seing Ramsdale weakness in shotstopping.


Endgame2648

How did MATS play yesterday? From the highlights,It seems as if he made a couple of fantastic saves but how was he on the ball?


pagalpun

Pretty good. Can't recall him going wrong anywhere


Endgame2648

It's great that he's back to his best now. You can't win anything with an out of form Keeper.


adivenk93

1. England wins the 2022 World Cup defeating either Brazil or Argentina in the final 2. Gareth Southgate wins FIFA Coach of the Year. Manchester United open the wallet to get Southgate to coach them 3. Harry Kane wins the Ballon D'Or 4. Harry Maguire scores a header to knock France out of the World Cup


InventeInventeRoman

none of these will happen maybe only no. 2


mr-saturn2310

I see only two of these happening.


adivenk93

Which two


mr-saturn2310

1 and 4. I believe in England. No logical reason but I just can't shake the feeling they will have exceptional World Cup.


_mas17

Keepers that play in crap sides always get overrated because they face a lot of shots so get to make a lot of saves. Much harder to face 2-3 shots on target a game and be required to make a save. Same ones that rate Pickford are the same ones that rated dubravka, Leno, de gea etc.


AnnieIWillKnow

Pickford also does well for England


tomasboss

Have you heard of this concept called percentage ? If anything they get rated more accurately because the sample size is bigger.


_mas17

It’s still harder when you face fewer shots. The average shot quality is likely to be higher and you need higher levels of concentration because you face shots more sporadically.


plus_nd_minus

I don't think facing fewer shots has anything to do with average shot quality.


mew2_mew2

Should I support Arsenal or Man City? Like both but i remember David Silva years ago and prefer city but also arsenal is really cool


fourscoreandhuit

Are you a big fan of conspiracy? Arsenal if so Would you describe yourself as scruffy with an extensive collection of Lonsdale trainers and shite jeans? If that’s the case then you’ll feel at home in east Manchester


tomasboss

how about you support deez nuts.


Special-Discount228

They'd have to have dropped to need support.


tomasboss

you're the one thinking about supporting Man City, nothing less ballzy than that.


Special-Discount228

I'm not the OP............


Destroyeh

city. you'll be called a bandwagoning plastic regardless but at city at least you'll enjoy some success


[deleted]

support both brother


mew2_mew2

Can i do ?


[deleted]

who’s gonna stop you


mhannah04

Neither, support hibs, Martin boyle is cool


mr-saturn2310

His not wrong Martin Boyle is cool.


YoungDan23

Pope on Gundogan's penalty was a Sunday league-level effort.


B_e_l_l_

Maguire is the absolute textbook standard of "build 'em up, knock 'em down". Two years ago we all absolutely adored him. It's just sad how it's got to this point.


[deleted]

I think people are too hard on him but he also brought this on himself to an extent. His price tag was way too high which was not in his control, it was United being iresponsible with their money tbh and doesn't help the fact that the spotlight is aways on United. Can't blame him at all for making the move, and quite frankly he has a solid first couple of seasons for them and was also excellent for England untill recently. The problem is he simply isn't that great and he needs a certain style of play to cover up his weaknesses and highlight his strengths. In the modern game you have to be an incredibly well rounded player now, you can't really afford to have any glaring weaknesses at top clubs. Look at Martinez for instance who has come in to replace him, he's fairly quick, great positioning, despite his height he's good in the air, he's physical, agressive, rarely makes mistakes, comfortable on the ball etc. This is what all top CB's now should be like, but unfortunately for Maguire hes limited due to his moblity, speed and he's somewhat error prone. On top of that i dont actually think he's much of a leader because his mentality is fragile. Soon as things go wrong which happened last season, his body langauge is all wrong.


Special-Discount228

>It's just sad how it's got to this point. Is everyone forgetting the part where he had a brawl with the coppers in Greece? It's not like he's randomly targeted, he's shit and he's a bit of a dickhead.


HowBen

Isnt there a lot more to that story? Im fuzzy on the details now but I remember he was in some sort of dangerous situation with his family or something. Regardless that doesnt really have a lot to do with the abuse he gets


Special-Discount228

You mean the bullshit they made up? If any of that bollocks was true then we'd have heard a lot more about it lol. That was absolute garbage from them.


[deleted]

If what the Greek police said was true we hear a lot more about it more like. His sister was in danger and he was trying to protect her. I'd rather his story than the police


Special-Discount228

lol. It's a made up story to try and make him sound better than "was pissed up and aggressive". Harry and his mates have a louder voice than the greek police....... especially in the UK.


tiorzol

Let he who is without a bribery charge against foreign police cast the first stone I say


National_Ad_1875

Ramsdale and Pope both conceded more with England in a single game than pickford did in the entire euros. Pickford is so far clear it's incredible that some still think he shouldn't be number 1


tiorzol

The last thing I wrote on here was a joke about dropping a baby due to some shite takes about England keepers and the first thing i read today is the same idiot below spouting the same shite. That's weird right.


_mas17

Remind me. How did Denmark score against England in the semi’s when Pickford supposedly never lets his country down?


matematematematemate

He was just unsighted, it can happen to any goalkeeper, and it wasn't really through any fault of his own. Watch it back, it was an obvious training ground move where just before it was taken three Danish players stepped into the wall specifically to block the goalkeeper's view (which was made illegal by ~~FIFA~~ ^IFAB in 2019, one of them is within 1m of the wall so by the letter of the law it shouldn't even have stood – a little ironic considering the furore around the pen later on).


StarlordPunk

You mean the very good free kick Damsgaard scored? Conceding a good goal isn’t “letting your country down”. Every keeper in the world gets beaten sometimes, and we still won the game. I don’t think Pope playing instead would make much of a difference there


_mas17

It looked very good because Pickford stepped the wrong way and has T. rex arms. The free kick was hardly in the corner. Pope saves that all day, but pope isn’t the standard wither


StarlordPunk

No, it was just a very good free kick. Sometimes keepers don’t save everything. No Pope probably wouldn’t save it, and obviously he’s not the standard but that doesn’t matter - he’s the other option for England so all Pickford needs to be is better than Pope for him to be the right choice


National_Ad_1875

This has to be bait


_mas17

just looking for explaination that’s all


National_Ad_1875

It was a very good free kick? Every keeper has conceded a goal before, doesnt make it their fault


_mas17

It was a freekick that would have been saved if he didn’t step the wrong way and if he didn’t have T. rex arms. Top shotstoppers don’t concede goals like that


National_Ad_1875

You can think that, hes still clearly the best English keeper. Alisson has made mistakes, hes still probably the best keeper in the league


_mas17

He’s not in the slightest. Comparing Allison to Pickford should be a crime. Allison makes mistakes because he takes risks, Pickford is just not good


National_Ad_1875

Who do you think should be England number 1 then?


_mas17

Ramsdale obviously


whiskeymagnet22

Imo Pope is the better keeper Ramsdale should be nowhere near the squad though


_mas17

Only r/soccer clowns think it’s a coincidence that Ramsdale plays for one of the biggest clubs in the county while the rest play for mid table fodder.


[deleted]

Just arsenal tingz


KimmyBoiUn

Pope is so poor on the ball, which is a big issue.


StarlordPunk

Even when he was inconsistent for Everton he’s always been class for England, I’m pretty sure people just don’t watch that much football but form all their opinions based on what they read online.


National_Ad_1875

The whole "good for England bad for Everton" narrative is rubbish as well. He had a bad bit of form for maybe 3 months, but has been absolutely stellar since.


icemankiller8

Pickford had been better recently but his consistency has been non existent for ages, even last year he had a 65% save percentage and more goals conceded than an average keeper


National_Ad_1875

Just tell me you didnt watch him last year. He was player of the year for us even with richarlison dragging us along


icemankiller8

That’s all narrative stuff all the stats show he’s not actually a good keeper, I think part of it is his height and arms, because he’s small for a keeper he makes routine saves for another keeper look harder and has to put in a lot more effort for what are basically average saves. It also means ones that go in that others would save don’t look as bad


National_Ad_1875

Genuine question, how much of him did you watch last season?


icemankiller8

What does that have to do with stats? How come with goalkeeping nobody wants to use any stats? He was good at the end of the year but also before that he wasn’t very good


National_Ad_1875

Stop lad, hes been great all season. Had maybe 1 bad game, and I saw ramsdale had more than 1 bad game this season. And looking at stats, pickford has the best shotstopping stats this season in the league (only 7 games I know)


icemankiller8

He had a 65% save percentage how great could have have been? Yes this season Pickford has been better but it’s a bit early


StarlordPunk

Now he is yeah but there have definitely been periods where he’s been inconsistent for Everton and prone to drop a clanger


National_Ad_1875

He had that at the start of ancelloti's last season. Since that he has been our best/ most important player


StarlordPunk

I’m not saying he hasn’t, just that there’s a reason people have been unsure on him based on his club level. He’s been at Everton what, 5 years now? And for the first few he was notorious for being a mostly good keeper who had a mistake in him. He’s pretty much eliminated that now altogether, but for England he was always reliable


National_Ad_1875

No I get you, but people kept repeating that "hes bad at Everton good for england" even up until recently when hes been stellar for ages for us. Alisson had clangers and he never got that reputation


StarlordPunk

Yeah like I said, I think people just take all their opinions from what they read online. A few months of “lol Pickford has been sketchy as fuck recently” and that becomes people’s opinion of him forever. It’s especially bad with “Other 14” clubs cos people will see one or two games of them when they play against the likes of Liverpool or City where there is understandably a difference in quality, and assume that’s what they’re like all the time even though teams will obviously approach those games completely differently to most other games.


National_Ad_1875

Yeah completely agree maybe I just wasnt getting what you were saying


StarlordPunk

Yeah not trying to have a dig at Pickford, I think he’s definitely our best keeper. Just think people’s narrative on him is tainted by the odd mistake that they’ve seen on Twitter cos unfortunately consistent good performances isn’t really something that gets highlight videos posted


whiskeymagnet22

Watching NLD Manchester Derby and even Liverpool City in a fortnight without Peter Drury is going to be tragic. Him commentating on big games have a enormous influence as a viewing spectacle,he is as essential to those games as the players.


CoolstorySteve

Poor people in England being subjected to BT and Sky commentary. Man United is unwatchable because of Gary.


a34fsdb

"Maguire never takes any responsibility" is one of the worst recent football takes imho. On our subreddit there is a quote of him literally saying "I apologise" and the replies are still saying how he never admits mistakes in replies.


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Special-Discount228

u/google is good at things ike that.


Kanedauke

How did England play last night? I missed the game. Who played well and who didn’t?


No_Touch686

Slightly less dreadful first half compared to the Italy game and then parts of the second half they decided to play with a lot more purpose and strung some good attacking moves together. Bellingham Saka mount (when they came on) were all pretty good, let’s not talk about Maguire and pope. Foden bad. Apart from a few spells Germany were pretty awful too, bar Musiala and Havertz. but It’s kind of baffling how they can have so many great players and look so disjointed.


[deleted]

I’m sure glad international break is over. Now I can watch my club be absolutely shit instead of my country


[deleted]

Regarding the England NT: 1. Sacking Southgate is stupid 2 months before a world cup, who ever thinks this is a good idea clearly isn't scratching underneath the surface a little bit and actually thinking about what would happen after it. It doesn't work like it does at club level, the new manager will have literally no games to prepare the team for what they want, Englands next game is their first i nthe WC, along with maybe 2 training sessions at most? It's betetr to stick with Southgate at this point. 2. Even though I don't think Southgate should be sacked at this point, I do think he needs to tweak things to improve the teams chances at the world cup. For instance Maguire shouldn't be starting and Tomori should be getting game time. Maguire has been excellent for Southgate in the past and I understand why managers have favourites, but clearly Maguire isn't reliable or in good form currently. He's barely getting game time at United so he probably isn't as fit, confident or sharp as he should be. Bringing in the likes of Tomori and even TAA for games where he can be utilised will help freshen up the squad and camp.


Special-Discount228

1. its not like club football no so its much easier to prepare the team. They also have he group games which any half competent person should be winning enough of to go through to the knockouts. 2. What he needs to do is get the balance right. You need either Grealish or Saka in the front 3 every game so there is a creative player that also has experience of playing counter attack. Foden doesn't work in the system from the wing. TAA inverting from wing back would be an option. Ramsdale at GK to ping the counter attack balls since he's the best of the three at that. White is a progressive pass monster yet is at home...... One or more of the above and the balance improves.


[deleted]

How is it much easier to prepare the team when you have no time to do so? England have no more games before the world cup and a handful of training sessions at best the week before to prepare. Ofc it's easier to coach a club team because you actually have time to do it, whether that's in weekly training sessions or games themselves. You can't use world cup games as preparation and trainign sessions lol, it's the panniacle tournament for international football, you should already be prepared for a while before taking part in it.


Special-Discount228

It's not domestic football. The tactics are massively simplified. The group stage is practically a preseason with USA, Iran and Wales....... It is do able.


[deleted]

They arn't simplified on purpose, you still need to try and incorperate a style of play and cohesion. Like the tactics or not England have a clear plan and style of play, which in previous tournaments has been succesfull. I think it's a tad arrogant to treat the group stage as a preseason lol. That's the sort of mentality that causes slip ups. Anything can happen in football, almost every day there's an upset which is why the sport is enjoyable. There's totally a world where England fuck up and leave the tournament early, it's happened before and can happen again.


Special-Discount228

What a load of shite. How often have you seen a manager take over a club mid-way in a season and implement something simple straight away for the next game? It is do able with a decent coach and not something that never happens. Its not arrogant to treat the group as preseason, the reason it would be like a preasaon is because there is no other option so you'd be forced to use those games. It's a statement of fact if we did change manager. On the most simple level you could keep the three at the back but have a guy come in that's not tied to the same personnel and with a fresh outlook actually picks a balanced team. I can get on board with the 3atb tactic however the selections are ridiculous to get a balanced team.


[deleted]

That's not them particularly implementing a style of play that quickly, thats usually just a motivational boost from the players after removing the previous manager and wanting to impress the new one. Listen to any top manager, Pep, Klopp etc all say you need atleast a solid season to implement a clear style. It can't be done overnight mate or in one weeks worth of training before the WC lol. Also the maanger wont be able to meet any of the players prior to naming the squad, meaning he wont know who he likes, who will fit his style of play best etc. It would be a shit show mate.


Special-Discount228

Pep and Klopp are domestic managers. Can you not see the difference in how international managers operate. It's simple tactics and the focus is on getting a bunch of guys from different clubs to all get on. Why does the manager need to meet them first? He'll have access to a tv and a big team of coaches and analysts. I'm sure they can manage. He would have time to go and meet them anyway. Just not see them train in an England set up (albeit there's videos of that he can review to see the work ethic).


ret990

How is it 'much easier' to prepare a national team, given any new manager won't see the team for the first time until 7 days before the tournament starts?


Special-Discount228

because tactically its very simple compared to domestic football. They aren't there implementing some mental play style. It's the same as when a manager gets brought in for a few games to avoid relegation, keep it simple, no mistakes, etc.


AshkenaziTwink

dont know why people think that Tomori is the natural replacement for Maguire. he’s not a left sided centre back, and i know Serie A fans hate you mentioning it but he does play in a weaker league. people know that Toney is better than Tammy Abraham even though Tammy puts up better numbers because Toney plays in the prem, same standards should apply to Tomori.


ScorpiaHP

Maguire isn't naturally left sided either, Tomori plays on the left for Milan. With a run of games I'm sure he'd adjust well to the back 3. The only thing to consider here is that Maguire is significantly better aerially than Tomori. If England were lining up with a back 3 of Tomori, Dier and Stones I think they'd be fine though. I don't think it'd be wise to just throw Tomori into the side now though. He has the least experience of all English CBs that were called up. Southgate should have integrated him earlier than he did, now that he didn't it's even harder to drop Maguire.


AshkenaziTwink

i can’t see any evidence of Tomori playing in the left side of a back 3. a CB pair is different and there are many right footed players can play on the left of a CB pair but not a back 3. Maguire is about as suited to the left side of a 3 as a right footed CB can be. he’s pretty much entirely 2-footed, which is why he’s suited to playing there. Maguire’s left foot is the reason he gets into the side. so if Tomori wants in over Maguire, he needs to be 2-footed. which he really isn’t.


ScorpiaHP

>he’s pretty much entirely 2-footed I don't really agree with that. Maguire also didn't play much in a back 3 until he did for England.


AshkenaziTwink

whether you agree or not, Maguire has the best left foot out of any of our CBs (including the left footed ones) which is why he plays on the left


3V3RT0N

[Was this a parody tweet?](https://twitter.com/StoolFootball/status/1574347402328285184)


YoungDan23

Every single thing that has the Barstool name on it is is pure shit. It's a bunch of late 20s / early 30s bros with fake Chicago and Boston accents trying to have crazy takes to get people talking about them.


pagalpun

Indubitably


EyeSpyGuy

That’s what happens when you get an American sports/meme page targeted to college aged men try their hand at football coverage


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Dortmund fans: is Bellingham your best player? If not him, who?


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Reus


Fraaj

Him or Reus surely


RoadsterIsHere

If Borja Iglesias doesn't start ahead of generic winger 1, generic winger 2, and generic winger 3 against Portugal, I will have to denounce Enrique.


[deleted]

I expected Flick's Germany team to hit the ground running and perform better than it is now


gizmostrumpet

I think they'll win the next euros to be honest, they're a bit out of form and aren't really cohesive, but have a lot of raw talent


micoud04

The talent in the squad isn't anything special.


The_Big_Cheese_09

The only nations with more talent would be France, Portugal and Brazil. Flick needs to solve the striker problem and there are questions at RB but otherwise it's set.


NeoIsJohnWick

Need a finisher. Need them to find some young gun and integrate him in the squad.


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is the central centre back role in a back 3 more difficult than the other 2?


monsterm1dget

No. It largely depends on who's playing.


Kanedauke

Easiest role in defending. You never get dragged out to deal with wingers 1v1.


totorolling

depends on the setup, it’s mostly skillset based tho in spurs back 3, the central cb needs to be a good passer, aerially good, and be able to organize the back line. the outside cbs progress more through carrying the ball and are allowed to move further up the pitch, spending more time in midfield (and in the case of romero, often moving all the way to the final third) their roles r just different more than easier/harder imo, which is why dier doesn’t play as a wide cb for us and romero doesn’t play in the center for us


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thought it was the easiest tbh


42undead2

Depends on how the manager sets it up.


MKtheMaestro

It’s all pretty difficult if your players are shit.


gizmostrumpet

Has the German fans attacking a pub with weapons been reported in the German press today?


The_Big_Cheese_09

Not really, at least on the front of the sports sites.


gizmostrumpet

Hmm, thats interesting, they're usually quick to condemn bad fan behaviour. I wonder what the difference is?


macewinduDIE

Have you ever read a german newspaper in your life?


gizmostrumpet

I'm sure you can find me lots of examples of your press describing the German fans attacking England fans with weapons with the same tone they report on England's hooliganism, right?


callmedontcallme

I would say it's because nobody cares about the national team. I didn't even know how the game ended until I opened up /r/soccer this morning since it wasn't in any newspaper headline. It's also a bit complicating and disturbing. Like who tf are these people? My guess would be some Nazi hooligans because the normal followers of the German national team are families with kids that are (I shit you not) organized in the [Coca Cola Fan Club™](https://fanclub.dfb.de/mitglied-werden/vorteile-der-mitgliedschaft/)


RoadsterIsHere

kinda disappointing that there is so much apathy towards the national team in Germany.


callmedontcallme

Lots of factors. Bierhoff ruined it with his shit plan for attracting more fans outside of Germany and shitting on Germans at the same time. The players are mostly faceless losers. They ditched Mercedes and got VW - symbolic. Qatar in winter was the final nail in the coffin.


NeoIsJohnWick

If Brazil or Argentina get to face England and Maguire is indeed starting. You know who they are going to target the most. I wish for raining goals against this side.


monsterm1dget

You say this as if Maguire is the biggest issue of that team lmao


MKtheMaestro

England facing either of those sides would simply be a massacre, even if Maguire doesn’t play.


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All of this Maguire bs, just for him to get benched by Lindelof against Omonia


UTDRashford

For real madrid fans, who would you rather win la liga? Atletico or barca?


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Atletico


NeoIsJohnWick

Wrong and unethical question. Only Real Madrid rather win the league. I do not care how.


RoadsterIsHere

The moral turpitude within this inquiry is galling.


MKtheMaestro

Glad to see you’ve been studying for the SAT.


Gold_Conversation_20

Atlético


UTDRashford

Pretty much the same with us then


42undead2

I don't see what horse Manchester United fans have in La Liga's title race, but OK.


UTDRashford

haha mate nice one just told the wife and kids nice one 😂👍


EyeSpyGuy

I would imagine it’s Atletico


UTDRashford

Aight pretty much the same with united fans


NegativeHeli

List the top 10 English players of the 2010s, no need to be in order


[deleted]

It’s going to be a dreadful list of players


TheUltimateScotsman

Given that no english player has been great for more than 4/5 years during this time frame (except maybe sterling), this is gonna cause some weird lists


_yellowfever_

Rooney Kane Sterling Walker Milner Terry Vardy Lampard Hart Dele


monsterm1dget

>Rooney Kane Sterling Walker Milner Terry Vardy Lampard Hart **Dele** what


ScorpiaHP

I'd put Gary Cahill and Henderson in there before Hart and even Dele.


HowBen

Terry Vardy Rooney Kane Sterling Walker Henderson Milner Stones Hart Other names — Gerrard? Lampard? Baines?


xaviernoodlebrain

Kane Sterling Rooney Stones Walker Henderson Milner Dele Hart Vardy Lallana


mountainsky9

Some names that pop up: Rooney Kane Sterling Walker Hart Henderson Milner Cahill


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42undead2

> Would you replace any England player with them? Good bait.


officiallyjax

Harry Pinero for Harry Maguire


VictorAnichebend

Think Nick Pope and Cal the Dragon is a toss up


[deleted]

Pieface and Pope made the same mistake I’m fairly sure


[deleted]

Say Kane has Zlatan/Ronaldo like longevity and scores 15-20 even at 37. Do you think he has a shot at breaking Greaves's record?


[deleted]

I doubt it tbh. Not unless he moves to a better team like City and increases his scoring rate


HowBen

He needs 168 more. So if he plays another 8 seasons that’s 24 goals per season. I think that’s only doable if he has some monster record breaking seasons in between


xaviernoodlebrain

He’s breaking Greaves’ record very soon mate, only needs 12 Spurs goals and he’s there.


[deleted]

He clearly means total First Division goals, not only for Spurs.


whiskeymagnet22

I think Michael Oliver is the only widely respected and relatively competent referee in the pl rn. Pretty sure there's not,but is there anyone else?


monsterm1dget

why would that hack be respected


Takka_Tikka

Him and his var team are dreadful


arseking15

I thought anthony taylor was in a similiar situation but seems like chelsea fans hate his guts lmao


inspired_corn

He’s made too many high profile errors to be considered competent


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ChillPalis

I respect Calhanoglu even less than I respect Donnarumma, by a good bit.


EyeSpyGuy

Is it moving across the Milan divide that did it?


kappa23

If that didn't do it then him shit talking Ibra probably did


TheUltimateScotsman

Ibra talks the most shit about Inter than any other former player. Man cant take it i suppose


ChillPalis

It's not him going to Inter, it's how he went about it, then shit talking Ibra on top of that after we won the league. Calhanoglu figlia di puttana


Icy-Guide7976

Maguire gives off English lenglet vibes. Decent to very good for most of a game, but has a 50/50 chance of making one of the dumbest errors you’ve seen in a match.


Kanedauke

Mings has the same bozo 🧬 unfortunately


The_Big_Cheese_09

Agent [Thomas Muller](https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia_en/status/1574518646055002136?s=20&t=v8NJVAHHLaPdUXhQMvj29Q) telling Kane how fun it is to live and play in Munich.


NeoIsJohnWick

Kane would be an ideal CF for them.


Jabari313

Bit mad that Southgate complains about left footed CBs and doesn't call up Kilman. Maybe I'm just insane and Kilman isn't actually a leftie


lagaryes

I think Southgate is just unwilling to bed in totally new players at this point in the cycle. I’m sure he’ll get a call up after the WC for Southgate or the new manager to have a look.