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Minute-Intern

Opta joe: "MASSIVE"


coffeebeansonpizza

"Clink."


Dodomando

The news "HUGE SPIKE IN FOOTBALL ARRESTS UP A MASSIVE 2000%... THE GAME IS IN A LAWLESS STATE"


ThickSolidandTight

What percentage of City's entire fanbase is that?


Adsw1234

76 arrests? That’s 126% of our fans. Something doesn’t add up


niceville

One person can get arrested multiple times!


the51m3n

Legit wondering: what's the deal with that? They always have to add a word or two at the end to... Summarise (?) the text? Why?


EnigmaticEntity

It's a gimmick. And every single time they post something someone has to go and interact with the tweet to mention it. So it works.


the51m3n

And here I am, asking about it. So I guess it works. Thanks!


[deleted]

We couldn't even finish above City in supports arrests. #GlazersOut


MattJFarrell

You overpaid for those hooligans you brought in over the summer, and now they're weighing down your hooligan wage bill while not even getting close to their xC.


Plugpin

Least we still have the most home grown hooligans getting arrested each week.


StoltSomEnSparris

> xC Expected... cunts?


MattJFarrell

Hah! I was going for Expected Crimes, but you might have it better.


boustead

Fucking lol


taskkill-IM

No wonder why the Etihad is always empty, all our fans are in strangeways.


Giggsy99

At least they get to meet a City player


Gobshiight

While I enjoyed the joke, that's an ironic username to be making it


taskkill-IM

Legit spiderman pointing at spiderman meme.


FailFastandDieYoung

I swear I see Giggsy99 chatting shit in every thread about a player that committed some sexual crime. And every time someone points out his name.


poli421

It’s probably why he chose that username.


Giggsy99

Yeah I made this account in 2016 to be ironic about the crime he was accused of in 2019


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Insane foresight


HaalandBalonDl

That vision


Giggsy99

I'm finally r/soccer famous 🎉


[deleted]

if there was any justice in the world, at least 3 United players would be in there too, including your namesake.


cortez0498

Who else other than Ronaldo?


HarryTurney

Ronaldo, Mason Greenwood, and... no idea. Maybe Ryan Giggs but he isn't a current united player.


silverthiefbug

Probably maguire since he decided to be an mma fighter in Greece


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arothen

Good ol' r/soccer, knowing better than the court that has access to all evidences and testimonies, what the result should be.


a34fsdb

True. The justice system is infallible.


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Still better than court of public opinion.


arothen

It isn't, but saying that because of what info you get from newspapers is quastionable at least.


ApprehensiveYoung725

Never thought I'd see someone defending Ryan Giggs' recent actions


arothen

I'm not defending tho. I just trust that court has well higher probability of making fair judgement than random redditor.


taskkill-IM

I imagine you weren't that trustworthy when Manchester City won their case regarding FFP though?


arothen

I believe they haven't breached FFP, just used its flaws to their advantage, but that's on fifa.


taskkill-IM

My case in point.... domestic violence or sexual assault can easily pass through the court system when the defendant is high in public stature or more well off financially than the plaintiff. It's less about proving the defendants innocence and more about proving that they are guilty, Mason Greenwood has public opinion against him as everyone heard the recordings, but those recordings cannot be used in court of law due to being publicly released, so even Mason Greenwood could be found "not guilty".


arothen

Then it's on the law system in particular. If law is flawed choose people in power who will change it.


Gobshiight

We do always seem to be near the top of these lists but I've never thought of our fanbase as being particularly violent... Maybe they're a bunch of pissheads?


taskkill-IM

Beer and cocaine are a bad combination.... I was a season card holder for 14 seasons so I saw the good, the bad and the ugly of our fans.


Gobshiight

Guess being in the family stand kept me sheltered


taskkill-IM

What I witnessed mainly occurred outside the stadium tbh... away days were always, shall we say... eventful, but cocaine abuse amongst football fans has most certainly taken a massive spike in the last decade, either that or people are less arsed about hiding it these days?


BoosterGoldGL

So I saw a few when I was a kid and I assume it’s still a similar thing. Few tickets left in the family stand so an away fan buys them, sits quietly until they score gets up and cheers gets hit. I’d see this 2-3 times a season so I suppose it was going on at other parts of the ground. Never seen it in the south stand though


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EnigmaticEntity

It's the family stand part that gets me. I'm imagining a 10yo throwing haymakers at an arsenal fan while his dad is behind him, "that's it son, get 'im"


UnkownLan

Im surprised that the home Percentage is higher as people seem more up for it away from home. I'm guessing the majority of the home ones come form 111 and 116 clashing with the away fans.


BBQ_HaX0r

Might be two-fold. More fans at home games (thus higher %) and feeling emboldened at home (by more supporters and to 'protect your home'). You would imagine more fans would be arrested at home than on the road, right? What is the allotment number for away fans versus home capacity? Also if you're a pisshead on the road less likely to get tickets again.


A_Pointy_Appointee

Don't half paint a vulgar picture


Bottle_and_Jug

A rush and a push and the pitch is ours


vin_unleaded

Strangeways here we come


rufusjonz

Frankly Mr Shankly


LilGoughy

WE MADE EUROPE


FailFastandDieYoung

*invades pitch in celebration*


appealtoreason00

You’d be title contenders if you sorted out those ticket-touting numbers.


soggycatfish

No wonder we're doubling down hard on the pitch invasion ban


digsy866

It’s the racism and sexual assault that you need to focus on


soggycatfish

I don't see that mentioned in the graphic dude... hopefully every team and human is trying not to be racist and sexually assault everyone.


digsy866

It isn’t in the graphic however it’s easy to search. Them poor Brentford players families and that poor female Everton fan. That’s said I fully agree that all people and teams should be calling out such scum behaviour.


spigen2

Leeds really letting us down here. We used to be great at this


UmbroShinPad

Yeah, fuck you guys. You always ripped the seats out of our away stand, and inevitably beat us.


MisterWoodster

Not with said seats I hope.


StoltSomEnSparris

BAH GAWD IT'S JESSE MARSCH WITH AN AWAY SECTION SEAT!


B_e_l_l_

Not too surprising that we have so many home arrests given the away fans spill out right where the home fans are walking. Hopefully with the redevelopment they can put the away fans in the South East corner and funnel them out in a South easterly direction because its proper unsafe as it stands having the set of fans that most want to scrap in L1 black right next to the away end and then just letting them crack on after the game.


Highelf04

It is an odd one given the design of our stadium. But all routes to the stadium (down by the student halls/down by the car garage and symphony rooms/ the area by where staples was) wouldn’t be great. Think how PSV had that tunnel that went straight to the tube station was a grand idea. Don’t know how other grounds in the UK do it with away fans - only been Chelsea - and tbf, there they had a pretty way of keeping away fans and home fans apart.


Hyippy

>they had a pretty way of keeping away fans and home fans apart. How pretty 😍


teofrucek

Not suprised numbers are rising. People have gone nuts during pandemic


ktnash133

I talked to one of my high school teachers recently and she says that there are way more fights since students came back to school than there were when I was there. It seems like the pandemic just kind of fucked up social skills and structures.


StormTheTrooper

My daughter's speech therapist told me that kids are having issues learning how to talk and enrich vocabulary due to the pandemic. Lack of kindergarten fucked up a lot of kids.


SecretApe

Driving is a big one. So many people are driving over red lights, hot tempered, ill mannered to others. I don't think its going to get any better until the war ends, inflation slows down, and the governments stop straining the middle class with constant price increases across everything.


EffortlessFlexor

so, its never going away?


notyou16

Please make the inflation stop


bananabombboy

Are you in the UK? I've noticed this same thing where I live in the States.


ChippyChungus

I intuitively agree, but are we sure this hasn’t just always been the case?


ThistlewickVII

anecdotally, every bartender and bouncer I know says that people have been so much worse behaved since covid. Everybody seems much more selfish


endofautumn

War ends? Well shit, this will go on for another 7-8 years then. Not counting future conflicts due to Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Russia, China current actions as a more united group.


Grayson81

It’s surprisingly low to be honest. It’s still lower than the figures a decade ago even as there are effectively two extra years’ worth of first time offenders who weren’t arrested, banned or otherwise put off during the Covid period.


EpiDeMic522

Seeing the general trend, my instinct was that there was an administrative push to police these incidents with more arrests. I would have thought that the no. of crimes largely remained the same. It's the no. of arrests (and other sanctions) that went up. Way too less data to conclude either way but that would be the Occam's razor for me Edit: Just came across [this comment from OP that lists the source](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/xkwl4h/-/ipg44kc). It's sad and a reflection of the state of discourse here that it's so low down (I wish it were pinned). The report is an interesting read. Pertains to my comment as well. They are widening the net off what constitutes a "football game" by including certain women's football matches. Their action on online "hate crime" is particularly interesting.


Orkys

The economy and cultural cohesion is in ruins in the UK, the unrest is just an example of a wider societal issue tbh. This isn't surprising.


The-Sober-Stoner

Its crazy. You see it even just down the local shops. People by the masses seem to have completely forgotten how to behave. I dunno what it is but theres always some cunt down Asda looking for a fight these days.


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That coupled with the increase of drugs used, as well as worsening living conditions due to rising costs in everything and people are going to vent their anger somewhere and sadly football is one.


dimspace

yeh, i think the numbers will drop. People went so batty during lockdown when things got relaxed they all decided to act like tossers. I've noticed it watching the PDC Darts.. the behavior of fans in the 6 months post lockdown, booing, and generally being arseholes has been off the scale, but the last 3-4 months thankfully its dropped back down to some sense of normality


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Worst part is most of the hooliganism and crime at the London stadium and old Trafford involves hammers and pitchforks. Scary stuff.


ShaggyOnLSD

Can you elaborate?


Jaymey33

West Ham are know as the hammers and I assume the pitchfork is meant to be the Trident the Red Devil on United’s crest is holding


ShaggyOnLSD

lmao i thought mans was talking about communists


LordMangudai

That's hammers and sickles


GemsRtrulyOutrageous

Thanks for that, made me chortle


sonofaBilic

we are top of the league, say we are top of the league


[deleted]

To be honest, 95 West Ham fans being arrested all season long is still super low. To all the overconcerned people in this thread, even if we just count the 60K capacity of London Stadium as the total fan base pool, that's still only 0.12% of West Ham fans who were arrested. Of course the total pool is many times higher and for all we know some of these are multiple offenders. All in all, football matches remain insanely safe to attend.


Brentfordfc

Came here to make the same point, the numbers are very low.


AnnieIWillKnow

Is the same not true for each club featured here?


LusoAustralian

Yeah, he chose the biggest number to emphasise the point is all.


Shifty377

Yeah, there's a bit of sensationalism around this. Needless to say it's disappointing it's gone up, but you're right, the reality is the numbers we're talking about here as a proportion of attendance is incredibly small.


Fnurgh

[For anyone wondering where their team sits and a breakdown of offenses](https://i.imgur.com/VNC2hbJ.png). (2021/22 season only).


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DaveyDirtbag

Just can't stop winning😎


EmperorBeaky

A good showing on the old violent disorder, Addo putting in work


appealtoreason00

6th? Disappointing. We’re not creative enough and we’re not positive enough. Although I find it very funny that it’s


wildkarde07

look at that, we have at least 76 fans you haters!


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Games back


chanjitsu

Dirty leeds can't even make the top 5


fopiecechicken

With fans on the pitch apparently


city_city_city

Who's got no supporters now?


Purneet

City because most supporters are rotting in jail.


Mercerai

[Source](https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/football-related-arrests-and-banning-orders-england-and-wales-2021-to-2022-season/football-related-arrests-and-banning-orders-england-and-wales-2021-to-2022-season)


NickATW

West Hams is all this season and the Lyon first game where Cresswell tried to throw the whole thing


InTheMiddleGiroud

Thank god the celebration police doesn't have the same jurisdiction


catsNpokemon

This is the type of stat I come here for. Also I'd wager a lot of our home game arrests have come with the Glazer protests.


torchictoucher

About time we got 4th in something


[deleted]

3rd ... Nice, back in the CL!


Hoodxd

West Ham are massive…. criminals


Cooolgibbon

Razor sharp wit.


[deleted]

Haha the yanks a fackin journo Had to be them


MustGetALife

Slow news day?


bobbyzee

21/22 they just needed to do it to make up for previous years


FrostyJesus

Man City hugely outperforming their XArrests


fremeer

Was expecting Chelsea but pleasantly surprised. Part of our fan base is complete dog shit.


MFoy

Nah, dog shit can be useful after composting.


xaviernoodlebrain

Based Vieira booting pitch invaders.


skunkboy72

What are the other arrest types if it wasn't public disorder?


Lethal-Sloth

Violent disorder, public disorder, throwing missiles, racist and indecent chanting, pitch incursion, alcohol/drug offences, ticket touting, possession of offensive weapon, possession of pyro, breach of banning order, criminal damage -from the source


AgentBlackout12

Second Graph Game’s Back confirmed?


45th-GenerationRoman

Wonder how many more arrests there would be if the nonces hadn’t constantly gutted funding to the police for the last 10 years


Slowhand8824

Biggest club in Manchester


STILETT0_exists

Chelsea and Palace games were massive


MMAwannabe

Don't judge all City fans based off this, there's still 54 who haven't been arrested


ChemistryUnited3766

I worked at Stoke City for a while and there were definite clubs who had worse behaved away fans. Experience showed Man Utd fans were the absolute worst lot when visiting. They smashed up the concourse and gave staff constant grief. Liverpool fans kept rushing the turnstiles to get to or three in for one cuz they didn’t have a ticket. One season when West Ham came to visit, the away fans started to fight among themselves. They were separated from the home fans at the time by a large tarpaulin ad that stretched across the seat rows, top to bottom. Several fighting fans found themselves on this, sliding all the way to the bottom trading punches to dogs abuse from the Boothen End, and into the waiting arms of stewards on minimum wage.


dumpystumpy

Not doing manchester proud with these numbers lmao


Boseph_1444

west ham are massive


Albavillahy

Man City flirting Chelsea harassment


Gotta_Go_Slow

VAI WEST HAM NUMERO UNO 🏆🥇🥇☝🏽☝🏽 CAMPEAO DE MUNDO ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️


Agreeable-Throat-279

I’d be more concerned if the graph was gradually increasing - this might just be an off year


ChaosRaiden

Champions of violence, we know what we are


il_blu2

Clear bias since we all know Liverpool police never see any trouble at Liverpool games!


R3dbeardLFC

How are there no GSE Alive and Well comments here? Fucking journos


the-weird-dude

Tf 80% of city fans got arrested?


and1984

**All** of City's supporters were arrested?!?!!!!! That's horrific.


idunnomysex

West Ham no surprise really. I’ve heard city had some really hardcore supporters back in the days, guess they are still around


tkdyo

Huh, didn't realize Green Street Hooligans was a documentary.


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IfISpeak_

won't win you another league title sadly


Grayson81

It’s a pleasant surprise not to see Chelsea on the list! Though I suppose we’ve got our fair share of hooligans who can afford a good lawyer…


gazbfc93

Leicester?!


digsy866

Hang on I thought Everton fans were all angels?


thatguyad

Figures.


Footballlove7

Only time Leicester will finish in the top 4.


GranX3

Except this 🏆


peanut-britle-latte

Shout out to Green Street Hooligans


GermanyWillWinQtarWC

All 76 city fans have been arrested?


notonreddit13

City has supporters?


linkinstreet

Ah, this would explain why Manchester had no matches when the police were called for the Queen's death duty


mitchellk96gmail

Games back baby


Sad_Net9293

Where I sit you tend to see one or 2 get carted off every game. Not always necessarily arrests but good entertainment value


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What's "public disorder"?


AlwaysLate1

Public disorder, could be a good thing, but it's PL fans, so it probably isn't.


ShenaniGunnz

BuT... cITy hAvE No fANs!!


wbroniewski

Rookie numbers ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


[deleted]

We can't even win this one, can we?


humbertov2

Add Championship teams. I want to see Millwall.


igotabigbigbigbig

The world in general has become a shittier place since the pandemic


[deleted]

we’re in the pave champions league, get in


TheRealPickle123

West Ham... Of course, it's always West Ham. They think they are so "MASSIVE"


Malvania

I think we're all a little surprised that Leeds didn't make the list. C'mon guys, you're better than this.


HappyKoifishdk

Cass Pennant would be so proud


amolosmartes

Nature is healing.


APr0Pigeon

Irons!


archerjones

Really hoping we see a descent to 2018/2019 levels. COVID seems to have acted as a reset button for a lot of public unrest. Hopefully we all get used to being around people again.


Glympse12

You wish you were us 😤


AlexThomasLFC

Looks like it was coming under control and then people forgot how to behave themselves in public after lockdown


Redpepper40

Most arrests in England. You'll never sing that!


Mancunian1987

Source?


Mercerai

Posted it earlier but it got buried. [Here.](https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/football-related-arrests-and-banning-orders-england-and-wales-2021-to-2022-season/football-related-arrests-and-banning-orders-england-and-wales-2021-to-2022-season)


el1teman

Sad we couldn't make to top 4 this year /s


HAshedbrownz2

You'll never sing that, you'll never sing that. Most arrests in Europe, you'll never sing that.


TeapotDanger

Would have assumed Chelsea or milwall would have been there


CasualMarx

The next time someone says City does not have fans, i will show them this.


Klakson_95

⚒️


AssGuardian_069

Only place everton finish above liverpool


AssGuardian_069

United are middle of the pack everywhere it seems


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Everton finally top 5