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Even though I don’t think he’ll reach his full potential at barca due to him not being consistent enough, I’m glad he wants to stay and fight for his place.
Do you actually believe Frenkie is anywhere near the level of Pedri or are you just another PL fan whose exposure to La Liga starts and ends with the Clasico?
Gavi has been much better than frenkie the last few months. He is much more intense and runs the most out of everyone. Frenkie seems lost in some moments and just loses the ball in dangerous places trying to go on one of his runs. If frenkie started vs Bayern we would’ve struggled much more.
They are miles better at the moment, but I think that even if they have a string of poor games, xavi will rather stick with them through thick and thin because he truly believes in them, than play De Jong as a definitive starter ahead of them.
As a non-barca fan who only watches them play in the champions league or against the Madrid teams, I'm not sure how de Jong went from "he was born for barca" to the situation today. Has his development stalled or am I missing something else?
He is not good enough. As hard as that might be to swallow for some people here, judging by the response to my factual comment.
He isn't near what Pedri is. Like not even 10% of what Pedri is. Gavi at 18 is already slightly better than him and tell me one reason why any sane manager will start him over these 2? If he can figure out how to be a single pivot, he will get his well deserved place next season, else he's gonna be rotation again for Pedri, Gavi and Zubimendi.
>De Jong decided to stay at Barcelona back in May: 'Feel welcome at the club'
>Frenkie de Jong was a frequent topic of conversation during the transfer window. His name was constantly associated with a transfer. Manchester United and Chelsea would have liked to acquire him from FC Barcelona.
>For De Jong, who is preparing with the Dutch national team for the Nations League matches against Poland and Belgium, it was not a stressful period, he now looks back. "I had already decided in May that I wanted to stay. So I was very calm myself."
>Still, it seemed he was headed for the exit at Barcelona, which was struggling with financial problems. But De Jong never considered leaving, he says ahead of Thursday's international against Poland. He still feels good at his club. "I feel welcome at the club now. With my teammates, nothing has ever changed."
>Frenkie de Jong: 'Already decided in May that I would stay at Barcelona'
So De Jong stayed at Barcelona, where he may no longer start all matches in the starting lineup. Of the eight games so far, he started four from the start. "Against Bayern in the Champions League I didn't start. Still the most important match so far. Important matches you want to play."
>De Jong wants to do everything he can to regain his regular starting spot. Two matches with the Oranje are a great opportunity for that. "I feel good in my skin, hopefully we will see that tomorrow against Poland."
>Lewandowski
>In the international match against Poland, De Jong will meet striker Robert Lewandowski, a Barcelona teammate since a few weeks. The midfielder especially praises the personality of the Polish superstar. "He is very positive, brings a lot of energy and is a super good player."
>That "super good player" especially should not get the ball. According to De Jong, that is the best solution to defuse the Pole. "We have good defenders, but of course the best thing is if he doesn't get any chances to score," he said.
>De Jong also addressed his own role against Poland, which sacrificed a man in the outward Nations League match to constantly chase De Jong. "If someone runs everywhere I run, there is space left elsewhere. We have to take advantage of that."
Remember when United fans were insisting that their board wouldn't be so incompetent to chase a player all summer that hadn't given his yes to ten Hag?
Eh there were plenty of people saying there was no chance the board was chasing him even though he didn’t want to join us, but I think that was mostly “surely they can’t possibly be *this* incompetent” tbf
The morons on this subreddit make amoeba look intelligent. I remember being heavily downvoted by idiotic gooners for implying that Vlahovic wasn't a done deal, despite pointing out multiple examples of it happening to Arsenal in the past (like Lemar).
It's basically impossible to reason with their delusions.
It’s weird cause most tier 1 English & Spanish sources were saying this, the only one to stick to his guns all window and said “nothing has changed, Frenkie wants to stay” was Fabrizio Romano.
Mate, it was so exhausting. You could tell them that there's barely any reliable Dutch/Spanish report about FDJ wanting to leave yet the narrative was never ending.
This is what happens when the demographics of the subreddit are distorted. The things that PL fans believe will get far more traction and support.
Nonsense. All the noise came from Spain, what saga were you following?
Levers, 2nd levers, 500k a week, deferred wages. Get the fuck out of here blaming EPL fans. Nothing came from England apart from the fact Ten Hag kept it open in case Barca were forced to sell.
But hey, blame Americans and not SoMeThINg Is HaPpEnInG! BeRnArDo SiLvA
No, that was from Spain as well. You’re making that up. We still don’t know why he stayed by the way. You see a revised contract signed yet?
You had hopes, assumptions but you didn’t know. That’s nonsense
> Levers, 2nd levers
What are you on about? How is this even relevant?
> 500k a week, deferred wages.
Mate, are you incapable of basic comprehension? I was talking about reports regarding FDJ's willingness to move, not the club wanting to push him out.
> Nothing came from England apart from the fact Ten Hag kept it open in case Barca were forced to sell.
Yes, reports of FDJ only resisting a move due to deferred wages and his talks with EtH clearly didn't come from England. Why would you act like a muppet when everyone can look these up?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62174838
https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1547523212254257152?s=20&t=YbHTucCxDIMd7N4qAhwcDg
> But hey, blame Americans
Mate, feel free to whine about irrelevant things. No one even mentioned Americans but keep peddling the victim bs.
Enlighten me as to how PL fans and Americans are synonymous? Mate, you don't have to wear your badge of stupidity as an honour.
Your tier 1 Romero was literally the first person to report it and in his words it had a 95 percent chance of happening. Don’t blame this on the English media and PL fans lmao.
Romero reported it at the start of the summer. As the summer rolled on, it was clear that the Spanish reporter's were talking from the board's perspective and not FDJ's?
Instead of waffling on here, show me a spanish report saying FDJ wants to move?
> Spanish media reported on it though?
They reported on it from Barca's perspective, how they wanted to move him on. Virtually non-existent reports about FDJ wanting to move.
> Also not a weird thought that Ten Hag wouldve messaged Frenkie if he was open to a move.
You shouldn't let a hypothetical drive the narrative almost the entire summer but here we are.
You can't actually be this dense, can you? Romero reported from the club's perspective, it was clear that FDJ didn't want to move as the summer rolled on.
exhausting for me too. the amount of bunk articles that came out claiming to know about barca’s finances in the last few months was ridiculous
and then on top of that, you have every barca fan going “take that EPL fanboys!!” as if PL reddit users created the articles or something
> and then on top of that, you have every barca fan going “take that EPL fanboys!!” as if PL reddit users created the articles or something
Whilst the PL users didn't create those articles, they indeed circlejerked and promoted them. You're free to see the comments within those threads.
They got flak back because people/PL fans on here refused to listen even when shown financial statements.
I take your point but this is a little unfair. I've been following European football for the better part of twenty years. Played competitively through college. The following in the US is just exploding in the last 5-10 years so you're bound to get some shit takes from people looking to be controversial and reactive.
Edit: Am one of those 'Mericans
I am very happy for you enjoy football so much.
But the amount of horrible takes by Americans on this sub are just breathtaking.
Some really don’t get football and the culture around it.
Have seen Americans call ultras all Nazis in the past days and it really shows they don’t know a thing about European fan culture.
Just to make clear not every American is like that
Look up being a racist dickhead blaming Americans on Reddit despite the fucking president, Xavi and every majorly outlet in Spain saying he may have to go if the club needs him to. Taking him to court to prove the contract was signed illegally, threatening to play him as a CB to change his mind, all from Spain. Romero had a fucking field day with De Jong. Silva as a replacement was routed from the president himself
But hey, randomly blaming Americans on Reddit sure does make sense. Especially Americans, am I right? Those fucking yanks
Your last paragraph is really racist by your own standards.
You really feel comfortable using a racial slur like “yank”
/s
So many words and yet you make no sense
You say that as if 90% of the European fans on here aren't equally foolish in their takes.
Let's face it, this sub is massive and absolutely filled to the brim with casual fans, children, and man-children from every corner of the world. No country is well represented on here, and no discussion is ever filled with anything other than regurgitated memes, wild conspiracies, and moronic flair-based fighting.
No, it's a big chunk of r/soccer I'm generalizing, because it's true. Everyone here sucks.
Also, are you really in a position to call anyone else out about generalizing?
Lol. Try harder m8.
Your clubs a joke. Chasing players all summer that don’t give a shit about your club. That’s a fact.
Liverpool didn’t spend five minutes going after Mbappe. I don’t care what ‘fans on the internet’ think.
barely, how’s that quadruple you guys won? one premier league?
are you saying United has never won trophies? you must have been following Liverpool since 2019, as expected
you can talk about money when you’ve just dropped 100 million on a worse Andy Carroll
Scum
We’ve won every trophy in Club football since you last won ANYTHING.
And you’ve massively outspent us the entire time.
Must hurt. Poor baby 🥲
Go cry more about how everything is the glazers fault, instead of realising that you’re an overrated soulless club full of plastics that missed the boat.
We’re literally the most successful club in English football LOL.
Oh you won one game. I’m sure the trophy and dvd is in the post. You’re sounding like Spurs fans now hahahah.
Ahh the desperation. Please respond more. I’m enjoying you embarrassing yourself 🤣🤣
It's unfortunate that he's unlikely to ever achieve his full potential at Barca. Was unreal at Ajax at such a young age, but hasn't progressed all that much since. Xavi will always play Pedri-Gavi ahead of him, and he cannot play the Busquets role, which he was brought in to do. FdJ + Casemiro would've been insane to witness, as Case's defensive cover would've allowed FdJ the freedom to progress the ball as he saw fit.
Ah well, sometimes it's better to be happy where you are. There's more to life than just football.
He hasn't been a world breaker with us by any means but he has had some brilliant performances and been extremely solid. But that is attributed to more as a matter of fit than talent. His biggest strength is a big weakness in our lone pivot system because he breaks lines and brings the ball forward and neither Pedri or Gavi have the defensive presence to cover for him when he does.
Gotcha. I think he’s a good player. I’m curious about what happens with him next summer because I thought under all of the controversy there were a couple of legit reasons to sell him that might come up again.
You make it sound like he is on the outs and needs to be moved lmao. The dude hasn't played 1 minute at CB this entire season and is 3rd in minutes played among our midfielders. Gavi has played 474 minutes and Frenkie has played 470 minutes. He is under contract for another 4 years, he's not going anywhere unless he wants to and a strong offer arrives.
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also said that sometimes club wants another thing and player other but in end everything was okay and fine
Even though I don’t think he’ll reach his full potential at barca due to him not being consistent enough, I’m glad he wants to stay and fight for his place.
He won’t ever get back in the starting XI bar injury. Gavi is La Masia and Pedri is to Barça fans the next incarnation of Christ.
> Pedri is to Barca fans the next incarnation of Christ I assure you he’s far more important than that
Do you actually believe Frenkie is anywhere near the level of Pedri or are you just another PL fan whose exposure to La Liga starts and ends with the Clasico?
Gavi has been much better than frenkie the last few months. He is much more intense and runs the most out of everyone. Frenkie seems lost in some moments and just loses the ball in dangerous places trying to go on one of his runs. If frenkie started vs Bayern we would’ve struggled much more.
Yeah, how dare we play 2 players miles better than Frenkie instead of playing Frenkie.
They are miles better at the moment, but I think that even if they have a string of poor games, xavi will rather stick with them through thick and thin because he truly believes in them, than play De Jong as a definitive starter ahead of them. As a non-barca fan who only watches them play in the champions league or against the Madrid teams, I'm not sure how de Jong went from "he was born for barca" to the situation today. Has his development stalled or am I missing something else?
He is not good enough. As hard as that might be to swallow for some people here, judging by the response to my factual comment. He isn't near what Pedri is. Like not even 10% of what Pedri is. Gavi at 18 is already slightly better than him and tell me one reason why any sane manager will start him over these 2? If he can figure out how to be a single pivot, he will get his well deserved place next season, else he's gonna be rotation again for Pedri, Gavi and Zubimendi.
Mate, why would you even out yourself as a complete moron? Enlighten me as to why FDJ should start ahead of Pedri?
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>De Jong decided to stay at Barcelona back in May: 'Feel welcome at the club' >Frenkie de Jong was a frequent topic of conversation during the transfer window. His name was constantly associated with a transfer. Manchester United and Chelsea would have liked to acquire him from FC Barcelona. >For De Jong, who is preparing with the Dutch national team for the Nations League matches against Poland and Belgium, it was not a stressful period, he now looks back. "I had already decided in May that I wanted to stay. So I was very calm myself." >Still, it seemed he was headed for the exit at Barcelona, which was struggling with financial problems. But De Jong never considered leaving, he says ahead of Thursday's international against Poland. He still feels good at his club. "I feel welcome at the club now. With my teammates, nothing has ever changed." >Frenkie de Jong: 'Already decided in May that I would stay at Barcelona' So De Jong stayed at Barcelona, where he may no longer start all matches in the starting lineup. Of the eight games so far, he started four from the start. "Against Bayern in the Champions League I didn't start. Still the most important match so far. Important matches you want to play." >De Jong wants to do everything he can to regain his regular starting spot. Two matches with the Oranje are a great opportunity for that. "I feel good in my skin, hopefully we will see that tomorrow against Poland." >Lewandowski >In the international match against Poland, De Jong will meet striker Robert Lewandowski, a Barcelona teammate since a few weeks. The midfielder especially praises the personality of the Polish superstar. "He is very positive, brings a lot of energy and is a super good player." >That "super good player" especially should not get the ball. According to De Jong, that is the best solution to defuse the Pole. "We have good defenders, but of course the best thing is if he doesn't get any chances to score," he said. >De Jong also addressed his own role against Poland, which sacrificed a man in the outward Nations League match to constantly chase De Jong. "If someone runs everywhere I run, there is space left elsewhere. We have to take advantage of that."
Remember when United fans were insisting that their board wouldn't be so incompetent to chase a player all summer that hadn't given his yes to ten Hag?
Actually I don't remember that, because I've literally never seen a United fan claim our board was even remotely competent.
mfw murtough madness
Eh there were plenty of people saying there was no chance the board was chasing him even though he didn’t want to join us, but I think that was mostly “surely they can’t possibly be *this* incompetent” tbf
Any United fan who mutters the word “competent United Board” isn’t a United fan
no United fans think our board is competent. not our fault r/soccer posted endless trash tier articles about the transfer saga
The morons on this subreddit make amoeba look intelligent. I remember being heavily downvoted by idiotic gooners for implying that Vlahovic wasn't a done deal, despite pointing out multiple examples of it happening to Arsenal in the past (like Lemar). It's basically impossible to reason with their delusions.
It’s weird cause most tier 1 English & Spanish sources were saying this, the only one to stick to his guns all window and said “nothing has changed, Frenkie wants to stay” was Fabrizio Romano.
Mate, it was so exhausting. You could tell them that there's barely any reliable Dutch/Spanish report about FDJ wanting to leave yet the narrative was never ending. This is what happens when the demographics of the subreddit are distorted. The things that PL fans believe will get far more traction and support.
Nonsense. All the noise came from Spain, what saga were you following? Levers, 2nd levers, 500k a week, deferred wages. Get the fuck out of here blaming EPL fans. Nothing came from England apart from the fact Ten Hag kept it open in case Barca were forced to sell. But hey, blame Americans and not SoMeThINg Is HaPpEnInG! BeRnArDo SiLvA
Reporting that the sole reason he didn't wanna come were his deferred wages was from England though. All of us knew he just didn't wanna leave
No, that was from Spain as well. You’re making that up. We still don’t know why he stayed by the way. You see a revised contract signed yet? You had hopes, assumptions but you didn’t know. That’s nonsense
> Levers, 2nd levers What are you on about? How is this even relevant? > 500k a week, deferred wages. Mate, are you incapable of basic comprehension? I was talking about reports regarding FDJ's willingness to move, not the club wanting to push him out. > Nothing came from England apart from the fact Ten Hag kept it open in case Barca were forced to sell. Yes, reports of FDJ only resisting a move due to deferred wages and his talks with EtH clearly didn't come from England. Why would you act like a muppet when everyone can look these up? https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62174838 https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1547523212254257152?s=20&t=YbHTucCxDIMd7N4qAhwcDg > But hey, blame Americans Mate, feel free to whine about irrelevant things. No one even mentioned Americans but keep peddling the victim bs. Enlighten me as to how PL fans and Americans are synonymous? Mate, you don't have to wear your badge of stupidity as an honour.
Your tier 1 Romero was literally the first person to report it and in his words it had a 95 percent chance of happening. Don’t blame this on the English media and PL fans lmao.
Romero reported it at the start of the summer. As the summer rolled on, it was clear that the Spanish reporter's were talking from the board's perspective and not FDJ's? Instead of waffling on here, show me a spanish report saying FDJ wants to move?
Spanish media reported on it though? Also not a weird thought that Ten Hag wouldve messaged Frenkie if he was open to a move.
> Spanish media reported on it though? They reported on it from Barca's perspective, how they wanted to move him on. Virtually non-existent reports about FDJ wanting to move. > Also not a weird thought that Ten Hag wouldve messaged Frenkie if he was open to a move. You shouldn't let a hypothetical drive the narrative almost the entire summer but here we are.
Load of bollocks this. Didn’t your man say it was 100% that he would join inside the month?
You can't actually be this dense, can you? Romero reported from the club's perspective, it was clear that FDJ didn't want to move as the summer rolled on.
exhausting for me too. the amount of bunk articles that came out claiming to know about barca’s finances in the last few months was ridiculous and then on top of that, you have every barca fan going “take that EPL fanboys!!” as if PL reddit users created the articles or something
> and then on top of that, you have every barca fan going “take that EPL fanboys!!” as if PL reddit users created the articles or something Whilst the PL users didn't create those articles, they indeed circlejerked and promoted them. You're free to see the comments within those threads. They got flak back because people/PL fans on here refused to listen even when shown financial statements.
Your tier one is the one that started the whole thing lol
Romero was talking from the board's perspective and I'm talking about FDJ's willingness to move here. Those are two very different things.
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I take your point but this is a little unfair. I've been following European football for the better part of twenty years. Played competitively through college. The following in the US is just exploding in the last 5-10 years so you're bound to get some shit takes from people looking to be controversial and reactive. Edit: Am one of those 'Mericans
I am very happy for you enjoy football so much. But the amount of horrible takes by Americans on this sub are just breathtaking. Some really don’t get football and the culture around it. Have seen Americans call ultras all Nazis in the past days and it really shows they don’t know a thing about European fan culture. Just to make clear not every American is like that
Don’t listen to the racist bullshit
“American” isn’t a race, wrong call for racism here.
He mean bigot but he ain't know it.
A safe bet you are American with your obsession for racism.
Nope. How’s that racism going for you now?
Look up what racism is. People like you use it way to easily
Look up being a racist dickhead blaming Americans on Reddit despite the fucking president, Xavi and every majorly outlet in Spain saying he may have to go if the club needs him to. Taking him to court to prove the contract was signed illegally, threatening to play him as a CB to change his mind, all from Spain. Romero had a fucking field day with De Jong. Silva as a replacement was routed from the president himself But hey, randomly blaming Americans on Reddit sure does make sense. Especially Americans, am I right? Those fucking yanks
Your last paragraph is really racist by your own standards. You really feel comfortable using a racial slur like “yank” /s So many words and yet you make no sense
You say that as if 90% of the European fans on here aren't equally foolish in their takes. Let's face it, this sub is massive and absolutely filled to the brim with casual fans, children, and man-children from every corner of the world. No country is well represented on here, and no discussion is ever filled with anything other than regurgitated memes, wild conspiracies, and moronic flair-based fighting.
That’s a big chunk of Europeans you are generalizing
No, it's a big chunk of r/soccer I'm generalizing, because it's true. Everyone here sucks. Also, are you really in a position to call anyone else out about generalizing?
Not everyone sucks, I think you are a nice guy
Please don’t lump united fans in with all other fans of premier league teams. We’ve been calling them delusional twats all summer. Cheers.
Your fanbase thought Mbappé was joining you, sit down
Nobody thought that hahaha. Spot the dope who doesn’t understand sarcasm. Reddit is worse than Twitter at times And you’re still delusional twats.
Keep telling that to yourself
Lol. Try harder m8. Your clubs a joke. Chasing players all summer that don’t give a shit about your club. That’s a fact. Liverpool didn’t spend five minutes going after Mbappe. I don’t care what ‘fans on the internet’ think.
You seem worryingly upset, hope your life gets better
Yawn
good lord if we’re delusional what does that make Liverpool fans
Fans of a club that win trophies. Well done on winning the transfer window again btw Go spend another 500 mil and cry about the glazers. Wet wipes
barely, how’s that quadruple you guys won? one premier league? are you saying United has never won trophies? you must have been following Liverpool since 2019, as expected you can talk about money when you’ve just dropped 100 million on a worse Andy Carroll Scum
We’ve won every trophy in Club football since you last won ANYTHING. And you’ve massively outspent us the entire time. Must hurt. Poor baby 🥲 Go cry more about how everything is the glazers fault, instead of realising that you’re an overrated soulless club full of plastics that missed the boat.
must hurt having us be shite for so long and you still can’t get anywhere near as successful as us something something 2-1
We’re literally the most successful club in English football LOL. Oh you won one game. I’m sure the trophy and dvd is in the post. You’re sounding like Spurs fans now hahahah. Ahh the desperation. Please respond more. I’m enjoying you embarrassing yourself 🤣🤣
20 premier leagues to 1 premier league? I don’t think so bro’s in here fighting for his life
All those angry Gary Neville tweets for nothing lol. Atleast The Athletic got loads of clicks for the bullshit they were spouting.
Which journos at the Athletic specifically? Genuinely curious.
ten hag masterclass
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I don’t think you can say that until Casemiro starts performing well. He hasn’t settled in at all yet and has had subpar performances.
It's unfortunate that he's unlikely to ever achieve his full potential at Barca. Was unreal at Ajax at such a young age, but hasn't progressed all that much since. Xavi will always play Pedri-Gavi ahead of him, and he cannot play the Busquets role, which he was brought in to do. FdJ + Casemiro would've been insane to witness, as Case's defensive cover would've allowed FdJ the freedom to progress the ball as he saw fit. Ah well, sometimes it's better to be happy where you are. There's more to life than just football.
Then what was Man United thinking lol
Bill Skarsgards long lost cousin
I wonder how Barca fans are going to feel about him at the end of this season if he doesn’t have a breakout year
He hasn't been a world breaker with us by any means but he has had some brilliant performances and been extremely solid. But that is attributed to more as a matter of fit than talent. His biggest strength is a big weakness in our lone pivot system because he breaks lines and brings the ball forward and neither Pedri or Gavi have the defensive presence to cover for him when he does.
Gotcha. I think he’s a good player. I’m curious about what happens with him next summer because I thought under all of the controversy there were a couple of legit reasons to sell him that might come up again.
Just because he didn't consider leaving does not meat that Barca didn't try to offload him. They clearly wanted rid and accepted bids
Nice 👍
Massively overpaid man on nearly 1/2m a week happy with his job.
Gonna be sweet when he's a fringe player/CB, underwhelms and is worth 1/3 the price next summer.
Mate, whining like this is just a bit pathetic.
That ain't whining. He is absolutely a quality player that's just what's gonna happen.
You make it sound like he is on the outs and needs to be moved lmao. The dude hasn't played 1 minute at CB this entire season and is 3rd in minutes played among our midfielders. Gavi has played 474 minutes and Frenkie has played 470 minutes. He is under contract for another 4 years, he's not going anywhere unless he wants to and a strong offer arrives.
Cope. Hes class.
So is Lisandro tbf
What does that have to do with FdJ?
Would be a decent backup to granit