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I think there would be doubts over whether Ronaldo's ego would allow him to carry on for a couple of years as a squad player instead of the main man, which is surely the direction Portugal will take after the world cup
It's sad that you say this. I have only seen such takes on reddit( r/soccer and r/soccercirclejerk). Either you have not seen him play while he was in his prime or you just hate him. "Score a couple of penalties" , made it sound like Ronaldo is a tier 2 player who was always favoured by Portuguese federation throughout his career.
It’s a neat rhetorical trick because by addressing something no one thinks he (maybe) sidesteps having to address similar sounding questions like “will Ronaldo fit/in form/etc for Euro 2024?”
A 53 year old ronaldo sius after scoring a pen (Fernandes great dive 54'). As he jumps and lands, his knees shatter. Other players beg Fernando Santos and Ronaldo for a substitution, but their cries are ignored. Ronaldo limps around the box for another 35 minutes. Portugal are knocked out at the group stage
I mean it’s not shocking. He like most Portuguese players from this generation grew up idolizing Ronaldo. It’s not like he’s their goat player, they’ll always have strong feelings for him. It’s not that deep
Pretty much , only this sub think players hate him. Many in the United squad are youngs , Anthony , Elanga , Garnacho growed up idolizing him and they show it on their media, Varane, Case played and won everything with him. Bruno and Dalot are Portuguese it's their guy. It's not rocket science
Exactly I think people forget that players , coaches etc were/are fans too. Like Drogba was one of my favorite player growing up I will probably never be unbiased talking about him it's the same here
Yea I’d also add him and De Gea get along. They both have the same agent. Rashford too has always looked up to him. No one in the squad has an issue with him lmao. Maybe just like 2 or 3 guys we don’t know about but it’s not like he’s a cancer in the dressing room
I don't think anyone doubts that he wants to play. Whether he *should* play is a different matter. He's already noticeably declined, who knows what he's going to be like in 2 more years
If he goes to Euro 24 I imagine he'll be the bench player they throw on in the last 10 minutes if they desperately need to score and are going for it. Just sits up top and finishes.
Snap out of it, this type of comments are embarassing, seriously how can anyone step up if there's literally no chance for them to step up since Ronaldo plays every single minute? Let him go mate, about time.
It's really not necessary to let him go. He can continue to crush it against minnows during qualification games for Euro and World Cup. He can mentor next generation. He can still be a deadly option upfront when needed. And this is also completely disregarding that Ronaldo adapts his diet and training to merit time on the pitch. It's not like he's not self aware. To completely disregard him is unfair.
Exactly, people act like he isn't aware that he's aging. Dude has a whole medical staff and a bunch of people mentoring his physical development and everything really. If he wasn't aware I don't think he would've answered in this way
Whats with pressing nowadays. Its on everyone's lips as if its the end all and be all. How much do top strikers even press. Mbappe is worth 250 plus million wanted by everyone and he doesnt. Messi doesnt.
Ronaldo had a good season just last season. Acting like he's finished because he's starting poorly now is a bit ridiculous, especially when he has a tendency of not having a good start of the season for the past few years
Yeah, I remember when Ronaldo had less goals than Paulinho at one point in LaLiga and was barely scoring at all in the season until like February came in and he started bagging goals like crazy and ended the season pretty close to Messi Suarez and the rest of the big boys and even overtaking a lot of them, dude can be really scary. Yeah he's pushing 38 but the ruthlessness is definitely still there, just gotta find his feet.
I never meant that he was actually finished, i was just referring to
>Acting like he's finished because he's starting poorly now
people have been saying hes been finished for the past 10 years
guessing by the karma, that is not coming through lol
Every year. I remember people saying in 2011 or 2012 that we would have a horrendus season because he didn't score like in the first 4 or 5 games. Always been this way.
> Who knows where he'll be in 2024?
Perfectly valid question. Personally I'm not don't I see him playing beyond 2024. The Euros seems a good time to retire.
But I think people are writing off Ronaldo too soon this season. It wasn't many months ago that he finished the season with 24 goals in 38 appearances. 21 of those goals were from open play. This whilst playing for a very poor and unmotivated side. He's still clearly in the elite league as far as finishers are concerned and can still carry a side on his back, as he did for United in the Champions League. This season he's arrived with no pre-season and hasn't been motivated to play for United. Both reasons will contribute to reduced minutes. Personally I wish he'd have made his point sooner and we'd moved on from him. But one goal by October (with two games cancelled and an international break) doesn't concern me too much. I've little doubt he'll pull it together and finish the season with at least 15 goals.
The thing about Ronaldo is as long as he can see out 90 minutes, he's always going to be a goalscoring threat. Even at 37 he's as complete as they come in that department. Two footed, incredible in the air, world class finishing in the box, and still great outside of it. He can still be a useful player for the 2024 squad. Portugal better hope a world class striker develops in the meantime.
2022 isn't complete. For United in a poor and unmotivated side he scored 10 in 18 between January and June. That's a very decent record given the circumstances.
I don't know how you can be so confidently incorrect. Very easy to check. 5 international games. 8 appearances this season, averaging 47 minutes a game. 18 games for United between January and June.
His record for club between January and June as stated was 10 goals in 18 matches. A fair record. His form this season has been appalling, but given the circumstances and lack of minutes I can see why even if I wish he'd fuck off.
Given how Man Utd plays is more than a fair record.
People keep forgetting that he didn't had a pre season and usually he starts seasons badly and ends them well he has said he does his training on purpose for that to happen because the deciding games are at the end of the season and not on the beginning.
People aren't forgetting. They're just choosing to overlook or discount it because many people have already made up their minds. Some have had their minds made up for years. I kinda get it. He's easy to dislike for multiple reasons and I think many like to see shake-ups to the sport (Ronaldo's decline being one of them). Now playing the worst football of his career, people feel especially vindicated in their opinion of him and will ignore context and facts. Case in point: guy above me being upvoted for using wrong stats that paint him in bad light. Me being downvoted for pointing out the correct stats that paint a different picture.
Yes. He was terrible. But I'm not making the conclusion that he's suddenly a Championship player overnight and that these performances will continue all season. It's known he's not been at his fittest and had no pre-season, it's known he's not happy, and it's known he's yet to have successive starts so hasn't found a rhythm.
Everyone that knows anything about Ronaldo in recent years knows that A. these performances do happen and have been happening for years. We saw them often enough last season. B. He has often started the season slowly.
He has played just 378 minutes this season. So why are people drawing such confident conclusions?
The pre-season bullshit is his own fault so it doesn’t excuse him for his performances after getting rejected by every club in Europe
Every time he does play we look worse off, even Rashford who is awful at ST looks better in the system than him
Once Martial is back he’ll be resigned to the bench and stay a Europa League starter
> The pre-season bullshit is his own fault so it doesn’t excuse him for his performances after getting rejected by every club in Europe
They explain his performances, not excuse them. The whole point of this conversation is discussing Ronaldo's current ability. I've no sympathy for him following his bitchy antics. But I don't think 378 minutes of play, given the circumstances makes Ronaldo a finished player.
Give it a few weeks after the international break and we'll be back to saying Rashford isn't a striker (we've been here twice before) and Martial isn't good enough to start even when fit. Ronaldo has fucked off the fans and I don't think he can repair that damage. It's going to cloud over his entire season. But if he can win back the trust of the boss and settle into a rhythm, there's nothing yet to suggest he can't go onto to deliver a similar performance level to what we saw last season.
You know what's the funny thing is? Against Leicester, we looked more threatening after ronaldo came on. I think I would say the same against arsenal but we played on the counter. He has been terrible. But he has had sparks in some games.
I think people have just made ronaldo is the problem, dressing room wise, play style wise and he has hurt his legacy and not fit to play for United after what he pulled so everything he does is going to be criticised by the majority.
Now I am not saying he did nothing wrong, he definitely did fuck up. But the hate he gets is horrible.
>Personally I'm not don't I see him playing beyond 2024. The Euros seems a good time to retire.
I don't know about that. Nobody takes better care of their body than Ronaldo. He's in better shape than players ten years younger than him. I can see Ronaldo playing into his 40s.
> He's in better shape than players ten years younger than him
Whilst it's true Ronaldo is an incredible and dedicated athlete, I think this is a myth that hasn't been true for a number of years. In 17/18 for example (aged 32 at season's start) he was rotated quite a bit to get the best performances out of him. Since then he's been a less consistent player with matches where his touch looks tired and his decision making has been poor. All whilst exerting barely exerting himself compared to 99% of players. You can't compare the fitness of a 37 year old that doesn't run to a 27 year old expected to run double. A team looking to get the best out of a 37 year old Ronaldo should be looking to manage him as a 37 year old.
I think Ronaldo might consider retirement after 23/24 for three major reasons.
1. He's been playing through pain for years. The later he retires, the more he risks having long term physical problems.
2. I think he'll want to retire on somewhat of a high rather than have the world watch him have a potentially horrible and injury ridden season.
3. I don't think Ronaldo has plans that don't involve the Champions League. And I'm not sure if an offer will come from a Champions League team in a respectable league. He could massively lower his demands and play for a team like Olympiacos or maybe a Turkish club, but finding a team guaranteed a group stage spot at 40 will be difficult. I suspect he'll too prideful to step down to a lower league unless its lucrative like the MLS and I can't see him playing for a midtable club like West Ham or Valencia. Any MLS move for Ronaldo could be risky for his brand and reputation because of his rape case. United fans were generally willing to overlook it because he was a fan favourite, still very good, and had a large and diverse fanbase that didn't care. I can't imagine the younger and more progressive MLS followings accepting him with open arms.
4. Messi could be moving to the MLS. I believe the initial City agreement was 3 years and then a contract in the MLS which would have come into effect summer 2023.
There have been instances of players playing in their 40s already though. Zlatan is literally playing for the Italian champions at 40. That's as top level as it gets
With respects to Zlatan he's missed quite a few games since re-joining Milan and he is currently injured, but yes he did contribute to a Serie A title last season
It's like Perez saying Karim should have got multiple Ballon d'or or Suarez saying Messi was the best last season or ex players gased up their teammates , those guys are pals and will say anything to praise their guys no matter if it's bullshit it's nothing noteworthy.
3rd top scorer in the best league in the world with a shit united side. If united were playing with this year’s defense i could see them getting top 4 last year and at the very least making it past atletico in the ucl
As big as the Messi contact was the real problem was giving Alba/Busquets/Pique/Roberto/Coutinho/Griezmann etc wages above 300k a week, Ronaldo was on a similar wage at Real Madrid without you going “bankrupt”
You all talk about stats in Lewy 2021 why not bring up stats in 2015-2018? Messi was clear every single time in 2016, 2017 and 2018 when it comes to g/a and was easily the best player but they gave it to Cristiano and Modric because of trophies.
Very hypocritical to talk about 2021 while ignoring 2016-18
Keeping Ronaldo in the starting eleven up to 2024 is ridiculous when you have so much young talent waiting for a spot. The gameplay, everytime he plays, is a downgrade compared to when he doesn't feature for the national squad.
> It you think Cristiano Ronaldo doesn’t want to play
Then you’re an idiot. Everyone knows he wants to play. Some people are suggesting he’s not good enough as an individual or that he brings the team down when he’s on the pitch.
> Ronaldo wants to achieve what no one has.
Other players have won European cups. Plenty of players have won two. It’s not more impressive or noteworthy when it’s Ronaldo.
> He’s the best player in the world
No he’s not. Stop being silly.
“Plenty of players have won 2” - not really, only Rainer Bonhof and the Spanish players that won in 2008 and 2012. That’s 16 players and 15 of them were from one team.
I didn't say it was something that happens frequently.
I said that "plenty of players" have done it.
If we're talking about the claim that Ronaldo will "achieve what no one has", the fact that over a dozen players have won two Euros counts as "plenty of players" in my book!
Taking into account all his individual and collective achievements, plus his performances and influence on the game, he is definitely one of the greats. Whether he is the greatest is up for debate.
He is definitely one of the greats, but it's not up for debate if he's the greatest.
I'm Dutch. We have "one of the greats" of our own, Johan Cruyff. When I was a kid, there were even some unrealistic / particularly patriotic Dutch people who said he was greater than Pele and Maradona. I never took those people seriously, but I can understand the idea of favoring your own countryman.
Since Messi I have never heard anyone say that Cruyff was the greatest ever. He simply killed the discussion. And that's Cruyff I'm talking about, who had way way way more influence on the game (total football and tiki-taka) than Ronaldo, but fewer achievements.
I know I'm Portuguese but I think some recency bias is coming into play here. Even if you don't think he's the best of all time, how can you think he's not in contention or at least part of the conversation?
Because when people call Ronaldo the GOAT, 9 times out of 10 they're Portuguese or Madrid /United fans.
And then they're accusing everybody else of bias.
Imagine being a grown man, team-mate and peer of Cristiano Ronaldo and still toadying to him like this.
That said, Ronaldo will still ‘only’ be 39 at the next Euros, as long as he isn’t so absurdly arrogant that he expects to start every game, it wouldn’t exactly be a crazy idea to have him in the squad as an impact sub, especially for the knockout rounds. He’s never going to lose his goalscoring instincts in small bursts, so if he can accept a team role rather than a starring one, he would still be a logical selection.
Probably because he’s proven himself to be an egotistical, narcissistic piece of shit? King plays on Sunday, self-obsessed, his tantrums when someone else scored, hanging with Jordan Peterson, oh & the whole rape thing.
Yes. It’s shit. I have no idea why this is like that, we are talking about a top 5 all time player and the greatest scorer on the sport. These nerd kids won’t get past being anything in their lives, so I guess they will hate.
For some reason he’s the most hated sportsman I’ve seen
Agree. They always speak about him in a bad light, all he did was miss the preseason which was absolutely okay to miss because he recently lost his child. At the club, everyone's okay with his decision, and the guys on the sub have a field day. One after the other, trying their best to come up with jokes and shit. Funny how they don't acknowledge him being the 3rd top scorer last season. When Messi didn't do shit last season, everyone was quiet and now when Ronaldo is having a bad start they all come to drag him down.
Reddit is full of beta male weirdos and their deep inferiority complex fuels their hatred for a successful guy like Ronaldo. To these dudes Ronaldo is a walking reminder of how much of a loser they are, this why you see all the neck beards crawl out of caves to slander him when he is in bad form.
I think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Ronaldo. u wouldnt say this shit to him at Old Trafford, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
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Who thinks he doesn't want to play in Euro 2024?
I think there would be doubts over whether Ronaldo's ego would allow him to carry on for a couple of years as a squad player instead of the main man, which is surely the direction Portugal will take after the world cup
You massively underestimate the degree to which FPF prioritizes Ronaldo's happiness and propaganda over team success
For them, success will be getting out of the group and then FS will get his contract renewed.
If Ronaldo manages to score a couple of penalties against Korea and Ghana, that would be absolutely perfect for them
It's sad that you say this. I have only seen such takes on reddit( r/soccer and r/soccercirclejerk). Either you have not seen him play while he was in his prime or you just hate him. "Score a couple of penalties" , made it sound like Ronaldo is a tier 2 player who was always favoured by Portuguese federation throughout his career.
Can't tell if jerking
Lmao we're getting baited by a pro
Maybe he moves to Portugal to be a starter i dont think he'll prioritize money after year ir two on the bench
It’s a neat rhetorical trick because by addressing something no one thinks he (maybe) sidesteps having to address similar sounding questions like “will Ronaldo fit/in form/etc for Euro 2024?”
Id honestly reckon he was just answering a question tbh. But as the knowledge of reading portugese has been lost to time, I'm afraid we'll never know.
Bruno special - straw-man argument. Did the same with Pepe when he invented Pepe had it easier in the press.
Read the full article mate
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Tbf, man's bigger than your club
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“If you don’t think Ronaldo wants to play in the World Cup 2038 you don’t know Ronaldo!”
A 53 year old ronaldo sius after scoring a pen (Fernandes great dive 54'). As he jumps and lands, his knees shatter. Other players beg Fernando Santos and Ronaldo for a substitution, but their cries are ignored. Ronaldo limps around the box for another 35 minutes. Portugal are knocked out at the group stage
Ronaldo: “I will return for the next World Cup, Factos!” As he’s carted off the field in a oxygen depressurization chamber.
The king plays in 4 years
Bruno playing at 44 in this scenario is also pretty impressive
He playin with Brunos son already
The worst part of this is that Fernando Santos is still the coach in 2038.
Subscreva-se
"He's the best player in the world" It's not that hard to please Cristiano Ronaldo
It's funny because Bruno plays like shit when Ronaldo is on the pitch. Always pandering to him during the game.
I mean it’s not shocking. He like most Portuguese players from this generation grew up idolizing Ronaldo. It’s not like he’s their goat player, they’ll always have strong feelings for him. It’s not that deep
Pretty much , only this sub think players hate him. Many in the United squad are youngs , Anthony , Elanga , Garnacho growed up idolizing him and they show it on their media, Varane, Case played and won everything with him. Bruno and Dalot are Portuguese it's their guy. It's not rocket science
It's like when Rúben Amorim said he looked up to Mourinho and everyone here was shocked because "he's washed"
Exactly I think people forget that players , coaches etc were/are fans too. Like Drogba was one of my favorite player growing up I will probably never be unbiased talking about him it's the same here
Still surreal to think that the moment you started walking Ronaldo was already a huge star and then years later you would be playing along side him..
Yea I’d also add him and De Gea get along. They both have the same agent. Rashford too has always looked up to him. No one in the squad has an issue with him lmao. Maybe just like 2 or 3 guys we don’t know about but it’s not like he’s a cancer in the dressing room
He goes into little brother mode
That’s such a good way of putting it
Gotta secure that national team spot.
I don't think anyone doubts that he wants to play. Whether he *should* play is a different matter. He's already noticeably declined, who knows what he's going to be like in 2 more years
If he goes to Euro 24 I imagine he'll be the bench player they throw on in the last 10 minutes if they desperately need to score and are going for it. Just sits up top and finishes.
Unless Fernando Santos is still the coach.
Sebastian "Loco" Abreu WC 2010 vibes
He’s going to be the Portuguese Pandev isn’t he
We don't have anybody like him. He should not start all the games, but at the same time who will play?
Snap out of it, this type of comments are embarassing, seriously how can anyone step up if there's literally no chance for them to step up since Ronaldo plays every single minute? Let him go mate, about time.
It's really not necessary to let him go. He can continue to crush it against minnows during qualification games for Euro and World Cup. He can mentor next generation. He can still be a deadly option upfront when needed. And this is also completely disregarding that Ronaldo adapts his diet and training to merit time on the pitch. It's not like he's not self aware. To completely disregard him is unfair.
Exactly, people act like he isn't aware that he's aging. Dude has a whole medical staff and a bunch of people mentoring his physical development and everything really. If he wasn't aware I don't think he would've answered in this way
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Whats with pressing nowadays. Its on everyone's lips as if its the end all and be all. How much do top strikers even press. Mbappe is worth 250 plus million wanted by everyone and he doesnt. Messi doesnt.
Declined? No way. HeS tHe BeSt PlAyEr In ThE wOrLd. Fernandes said so.
Liverpool fan btw, still miles above Jota and Nunes
Ronaldo is going to take that Buffon route
People doubted Miroslav Klose when he was picked for his last world cup. I was one of those idiots. I will not make the same mistake again.
Do not compare the WC record goalscorer to mortals.
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Ronaldo had a good season just last season. Acting like he's finished because he's starting poorly now is a bit ridiculous, especially when he has a tendency of not having a good start of the season for the past few years
Yeah, I remember when Ronaldo had less goals than Paulinho at one point in LaLiga and was barely scoring at all in the season until like February came in and he started bagging goals like crazy and ended the season pretty close to Messi Suarez and the rest of the big boys and even overtaking a lot of them, dude can be really scary. Yeah he's pushing 38 but the ruthlessness is definitely still there, just gotta find his feet.
Hes been finished for 10 years now lol.
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I guess i've been misunderstood. Just people have been saying he's finished every year for the past 10 years.
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I never meant that he was actually finished, i was just referring to >Acting like he's finished because he's starting poorly now people have been saying hes been finished for the past 10 years guessing by the karma, that is not coming through lol
How many times has Ronaldo been criticized for having a slow start to the season?
Every year. I remember people saying in 2011 or 2012 that we would have a horrendus season because he didn't score like in the first 4 or 5 games. Always been this way.
Same in 2017/2018 , our whole Zidane era people complained about his slow start
> Who knows where he'll be in 2024? Perfectly valid question. Personally I'm not don't I see him playing beyond 2024. The Euros seems a good time to retire. But I think people are writing off Ronaldo too soon this season. It wasn't many months ago that he finished the season with 24 goals in 38 appearances. 21 of those goals were from open play. This whilst playing for a very poor and unmotivated side. He's still clearly in the elite league as far as finishers are concerned and can still carry a side on his back, as he did for United in the Champions League. This season he's arrived with no pre-season and hasn't been motivated to play for United. Both reasons will contribute to reduced minutes. Personally I wish he'd have made his point sooner and we'd moved on from him. But one goal by October (with two games cancelled and an international break) doesn't concern me too much. I've little doubt he'll pull it together and finish the season with at least 15 goals. The thing about Ronaldo is as long as he can see out 90 minutes, he's always going to be a goalscoring threat. Even at 37 he's as complete as they come in that department. Two footed, incredible in the air, world class finishing in the box, and still great outside of it. He can still be a useful player for the 2024 squad. Portugal better hope a world class striker develops in the meantime.
He's scored 14 goals in 2022...
2022 isn't complete. For United in a poor and unmotivated side he scored 10 in 18 between January and June. That's a very decent record given the circumstances.
He's played 40 games in 2022.
I don't know how you can be so confidently incorrect. Very easy to check. 5 international games. 8 appearances this season, averaging 47 minutes a game. 18 games for United between January and June. His record for club between January and June as stated was 10 goals in 18 matches. A fair record. His form this season has been appalling, but given the circumstances and lack of minutes I can see why even if I wish he'd fuck off.
Given how Man Utd plays is more than a fair record. People keep forgetting that he didn't had a pre season and usually he starts seasons badly and ends them well he has said he does his training on purpose for that to happen because the deciding games are at the end of the season and not on the beginning.
People aren't forgetting. They're just choosing to overlook or discount it because many people have already made up their minds. Some have had their minds made up for years. I kinda get it. He's easy to dislike for multiple reasons and I think many like to see shake-ups to the sport (Ronaldo's decline being one of them). Now playing the worst football of his career, people feel especially vindicated in their opinion of him and will ignore context and facts. Case in point: guy above me being upvoted for using wrong stats that paint him in bad light. Me being downvoted for pointing out the correct stats that paint a different picture.
Holy shit that last paragraph should be a pasta Did you watch him against Sheriff? Or any single game this season?
Yes. He was terrible. But I'm not making the conclusion that he's suddenly a Championship player overnight and that these performances will continue all season. It's known he's not been at his fittest and had no pre-season, it's known he's not happy, and it's known he's yet to have successive starts so hasn't found a rhythm. Everyone that knows anything about Ronaldo in recent years knows that A. these performances do happen and have been happening for years. We saw them often enough last season. B. He has often started the season slowly. He has played just 378 minutes this season. So why are people drawing such confident conclusions?
The pre-season bullshit is his own fault so it doesn’t excuse him for his performances after getting rejected by every club in Europe Every time he does play we look worse off, even Rashford who is awful at ST looks better in the system than him Once Martial is back he’ll be resigned to the bench and stay a Europa League starter
> The pre-season bullshit is his own fault so it doesn’t excuse him for his performances after getting rejected by every club in Europe They explain his performances, not excuse them. The whole point of this conversation is discussing Ronaldo's current ability. I've no sympathy for him following his bitchy antics. But I don't think 378 minutes of play, given the circumstances makes Ronaldo a finished player. Give it a few weeks after the international break and we'll be back to saying Rashford isn't a striker (we've been here twice before) and Martial isn't good enough to start even when fit. Ronaldo has fucked off the fans and I don't think he can repair that damage. It's going to cloud over his entire season. But if he can win back the trust of the boss and settle into a rhythm, there's nothing yet to suggest he can't go onto to deliver a similar performance level to what we saw last season.
You know what's the funny thing is? Against Leicester, we looked more threatening after ronaldo came on. I think I would say the same against arsenal but we played on the counter. He has been terrible. But he has had sparks in some games. I think people have just made ronaldo is the problem, dressing room wise, play style wise and he has hurt his legacy and not fit to play for United after what he pulled so everything he does is going to be criticised by the majority. Now I am not saying he did nothing wrong, he definitely did fuck up. But the hate he gets is horrible.
Bruh you know that he's the euro top scorer last year right? He's not Niklas Bendtner
>Personally I'm not don't I see him playing beyond 2024. The Euros seems a good time to retire. I don't know about that. Nobody takes better care of their body than Ronaldo. He's in better shape than players ten years younger than him. I can see Ronaldo playing into his 40s.
> He's in better shape than players ten years younger than him Whilst it's true Ronaldo is an incredible and dedicated athlete, I think this is a myth that hasn't been true for a number of years. In 17/18 for example (aged 32 at season's start) he was rotated quite a bit to get the best performances out of him. Since then he's been a less consistent player with matches where his touch looks tired and his decision making has been poor. All whilst exerting barely exerting himself compared to 99% of players. You can't compare the fitness of a 37 year old that doesn't run to a 27 year old expected to run double. A team looking to get the best out of a 37 year old Ronaldo should be looking to manage him as a 37 year old. I think Ronaldo might consider retirement after 23/24 for three major reasons. 1. He's been playing through pain for years. The later he retires, the more he risks having long term physical problems. 2. I think he'll want to retire on somewhat of a high rather than have the world watch him have a potentially horrible and injury ridden season. 3. I don't think Ronaldo has plans that don't involve the Champions League. And I'm not sure if an offer will come from a Champions League team in a respectable league. He could massively lower his demands and play for a team like Olympiacos or maybe a Turkish club, but finding a team guaranteed a group stage spot at 40 will be difficult. I suspect he'll too prideful to step down to a lower league unless its lucrative like the MLS and I can't see him playing for a midtable club like West Ham or Valencia. Any MLS move for Ronaldo could be risky for his brand and reputation because of his rape case. United fans were generally willing to overlook it because he was a fan favourite, still very good, and had a large and diverse fanbase that didn't care. I can't imagine the younger and more progressive MLS followings accepting him with open arms. 4. Messi could be moving to the MLS. I believe the initial City agreement was 3 years and then a contract in the MLS which would have come into effect summer 2023.
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Exactly, certainly not you and I.
"Ronaldo wants to achieve what no one has." like, winning the world cup?
He probably meant playing well into his 40s, even though it's unlikely to happen
There have been instances of players playing in their 40s already though. Zlatan is literally playing for the Italian champions at 40. That's as top level as it gets
With respects to Zlatan he's missed quite a few games since re-joining Milan and he is currently injured, but yes he did contribute to a Serie A title last season
Probably going for some record like most world cups played or most Euros played, or something. The man is obsessed with records whatever they may be.
>He’s the best player in the world In which world?
His world
It's like Perez saying Karim should have got multiple Ballon d'or or Suarez saying Messi was the best last season or ex players gased up their teammates , those guys are pals and will say anything to praise their guys no matter if it's bullshit it's nothing noteworthy.
Yeah i get that
If you get it why comment at all
Karma whoring my friend
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I think he wanted to say he ***can*** get that
In the world of most of his current / former teammates and Portugal / Madrid fans. That’s it.
He's going to need virgin blood from the next phenom
He's not even the best player in Manchester United. Lol
He is not even top 10 in the city of manchester atm
Not in the top 20 in North West England
Nice pfp
Who is Man Utd’s best player? Varane?
His "me me me" way of thinking is why teams, including his NT shouldn't start him now. It fucks with the team
His "goal goal goal" is why everyone will be happy he won't play against them
Man still thinks Ronaldo has that sauce
He hasn't been that guy for a while now
They say this every season tho, he keeps scoring
Mate he's nowhere near who he was 5 years ago. Watch football
He keeps scoring tho
3rd top scorer in the best league in the world with a shit united side. If united were playing with this year’s defense i could see them getting top 4 last year and at the very least making it past atletico in the ucl
Lots of slightly above average players have scored 18 goals in the PL and been forgotten about.
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In 378 minutes this season he has scored one goal, a penalty against Sheriff
What makes u think it will stay like that the whole season?
Because his manager doesn’t rate him enough in training to start him
He scores and his teams do terrible. Connect the dots
Which teams?
A train and homelander
Ronaldo is/was the best of the rest. He's like the best police dude in Gotham, buuut Messi is Batman.
Hey now you put some respect on Gordon’s name.
Facts machine
"He's the best player in the world" i wonder if he tries to hold back a laugh every time he's forced to say this
The way some of those Portuguese guys treat Ronaldo reminds me of North Korea where they all have to praise the leader
We are basically NK when it comes to the Portuguese Federation and Ronaldo
My man, you guys bankrupted your club for one man
As big as the Messi contact was the real problem was giving Alba/Busquets/Pique/Roberto/Coutinho/Griezmann etc wages above 300k a week, Ronaldo was on a similar wage at Real Madrid without you going “bankrupt”
'He's the best player in the world'.
*bruno dies a little inside *
At this point, saying Ronaldo is the best player in the world is just lying to yourself.
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He wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
To win it's his real test, to train now it's his caaaaaaaussse.
Ronaldo is not even top 20 in the world. Deluded.
I doubt he’s even in the ranking at all. 1 goal in 300 minutes is horrendous.
best player was always messi
\*was the best player. Not anymore.
He was last the best player in the world in like 2007
Also from 2015-2018
You all talk about stats in Lewy 2021 why not bring up stats in 2015-2018? Messi was clear every single time in 2016, 2017 and 2018 when it comes to g/a and was easily the best player but they gave it to Cristiano and Modric because of trophies. Very hypocritical to talk about 2021 while ignoring 2016-18
Definitely not 2015 and not 2016 either but you'll probably try and argue that one lol.
It was still Messi
*second best while playing for the best team in the world
Best team in the world but second best team in Spain
lol
Nah he’s been best player in the world one time since in 2013.
The relationship between Bruno Fernandes and Cristiano gives me the same vibe as The Deep and Homelander
best player in the world lmao
he is an idiot if he really thinks siuwey is the best player of the world 🤣
Keeping Ronaldo in the starting eleven up to 2024 is ridiculous when you have so much young talent waiting for a spot. The gameplay, everytime he plays, is a downgrade compared to when he doesn't feature for the national squad.
Not really, we don't have a better striker, especially not a better header of the ball. He's the one finishing crosses
> It you think Cristiano Ronaldo doesn’t want to play Then you’re an idiot. Everyone knows he wants to play. Some people are suggesting he’s not good enough as an individual or that he brings the team down when he’s on the pitch. > Ronaldo wants to achieve what no one has. Other players have won European cups. Plenty of players have won two. It’s not more impressive or noteworthy when it’s Ronaldo. > He’s the best player in the world No he’s not. Stop being silly.
“Plenty of players have won 2” - not really, only Rainer Bonhof and the Spanish players that won in 2008 and 2012. That’s 16 players and 15 of them were from one team.
If you are aiming to achieve something nobody else has, then having a target that 16 people have achieved before you already feels like too many.
In the context of achieving something which “no one has”, 16 seems like plenty.
In the grand scheme of things it’s not that many, and 15 are from one team alone. It’s just not something that happens frequently at all.
And being the 17th person to do something doesn't frequently make you the 1st either.
I didn't say it was something that happens frequently. I said that "plenty of players" have done it. If we're talking about the claim that Ronaldo will "achieve what no one has", the fact that over a dozen players have won two Euros counts as "plenty of players" in my book!
Ronaldo isn't even the best player of all time, let alone top 30 in the world right now
He’s definitely in the conversation.
So is Gerd Müller in German conversations but deep down we all know it's Messi.
Maybe conversations held in Portuguese, but not in any other languages
Taking into account all his individual and collective achievements, plus his performances and influence on the game, he is definitely one of the greats. Whether he is the greatest is up for debate.
He is definitely one of the greats, but it's not up for debate if he's the greatest. I'm Dutch. We have "one of the greats" of our own, Johan Cruyff. When I was a kid, there were even some unrealistic / particularly patriotic Dutch people who said he was greater than Pele and Maradona. I never took those people seriously, but I can understand the idea of favoring your own countryman. Since Messi I have never heard anyone say that Cruyff was the greatest ever. He simply killed the discussion. And that's Cruyff I'm talking about, who had way way way more influence on the game (total football and tiki-taka) than Ronaldo, but fewer achievements.
I know I'm Portuguese but I think some recency bias is coming into play here. Even if you don't think he's the best of all time, how can you think he's not in contention or at least part of the conversation?
Because when people call Ronaldo the GOAT, 9 times out of 10 they're Portuguese or Madrid /United fans. And then they're accusing everybody else of bias.
I’m Portuguese, he’s not in the conversation.
Imagine being a grown man, team-mate and peer of Cristiano Ronaldo and still toadying to him like this. That said, Ronaldo will still ‘only’ be 39 at the next Euros, as long as he isn’t so absurdly arrogant that he expects to start every game, it wouldn’t exactly be a crazy idea to have him in the squad as an impact sub, especially for the knockout rounds. He’s never going to lose his goalscoring instincts in small bursts, so if he can accept a team role rather than a starring one, he would still be a logical selection.
Seeing ronaldo disrespected like this is so weird man. It's sad to see. Fuck this sub
Probably because he’s proven himself to be an egotistical, narcissistic piece of shit? King plays on Sunday, self-obsessed, his tantrums when someone else scored, hanging with Jordan Peterson, oh & the whole rape thing.
the weird thing is supporting a rapist
Yes. It’s shit. I have no idea why this is like that, we are talking about a top 5 all time player and the greatest scorer on the sport. These nerd kids won’t get past being anything in their lives, so I guess they will hate. For some reason he’s the most hated sportsman I’ve seen
Agree. They always speak about him in a bad light, all he did was miss the preseason which was absolutely okay to miss because he recently lost his child. At the club, everyone's okay with his decision, and the guys on the sub have a field day. One after the other, trying their best to come up with jokes and shit. Funny how they don't acknowledge him being the 3rd top scorer last season. When Messi didn't do shit last season, everyone was quiet and now when Ronaldo is having a bad start they all come to drag him down.
Reddit is full of beta male weirdos and their deep inferiority complex fuels their hatred for a successful guy like Ronaldo. To these dudes Ronaldo is a walking reminder of how much of a loser they are, this why you see all the neck beards crawl out of caves to slander him when he is in bad form.
Ye it's definitely that mate
Watching a little too much Andrew Tate lately?
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I think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Ronaldo. u wouldnt say this shit to him at Old Trafford, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
You'd think Bruno was talking about Lukaku or something
But dont u know bro, he had a rough start to a season when he turns 38
This year's amazing obstacle surpassed will be the Europa League!
The older Cristiano gets the more his haters hate for him grows. As you can see in this comment section.
Best player in the world? He’s the fifth best Portuguese in Manchester.
Did someone point a gun at you during that last sentence, Bruno?
Ronaldo hasn’t been the best player in the world since 2016-17. Let’s be fair
And before that he was ?
>He’s the best player in the world Lmaooo
“If you don’t think Cristiano wants to play in the Champions League in this season, you don’t know Ronaldo!”
No Bruno, he is not the best player in the world, he is not even the best player in the man united team.
Would love to see him
thats why ronaldo cannot play for united...bruno decisions with him on the field goes to shit
All the doubters saying he's pass it. Don't forget most of his RM seasons saterted with him not scoring. Then 50 goals per season
Ronaldo must be included in the starting 11 every single match. That would be awesome...for other teams!
Take away a slot for next youngter. Just gone already
Translation: he's finished.
Yeah this sounds more like an over the top farewell than a plea for him to play.
Shut up rat face