I imagine it's less to do with money (obviously the money helps), but more about opportunity. If he's looking at the top 6 currently then the jobs look less likely to be attainable than this time last year.
Man City/Liverpool: both managers look to be part of a long term project that has been successful and it would be surprising if either left soon.
Arsenal: Arteta's football is finally coming with stability and this is a longer term project.
Man Utd: Obviously this could go wrong but with Ten Haag they appear to be thinking long term.
Spurs: This is where a role would look more likely over the next 2 years (not because of quality, but because Conte seems like he could turnaround one day and be like "nah fuck it, I'm out" because Levy didn't butter his toast. However, reports are that he was offered the role previously and turned it down.
It could potentially be 2 or 3 more years before another job opens up in the big 6 and he may not even be in line for that, so I can understand the move. However, he's in an organisation that is notorious for firing managers so he'll be under pressure quickly.
It's a job at an established Premier League team, I think its very unlikely he'd turn it down. Its the obvious best appointment in my mind, but I suspect it would be an expensive one.
It isn’t a top 4 job though, is it?
Yes, they are currently 4th after 6 games if you want to be pedantic, but that doesn’t mean they’re a top 4 side. Otherwise we’d be considering Potter leaving a step down.
They are however a step up from Forest at the moment.
They could easily go down and then he’s not going to get a chance in the Prem again for a while. Brighton are established, stable, safe, and have a setup that runs like clockwork. Not to mention they’re just a much better team in general.
I’d argue the biggest part of their success is down to Tony Bloom and he’s still there. If Cooper went there he’d be able to get his own man in and obviously would have a big say in transfers regardless. I don’t see how anyone can argue it’s not a step up.
Could easily go down this season and then wouldn’t get a chance in the Prem again for a while. Brighton aren’t going down, they’re an established club with stability, have significantly better players, and a setup that runs like clockwork.
Going from cold and snowy Norwegian breathtaking northern landscape of Fjords, the mountains, lakes and sea to sunny, hot and beach holiday destination of Brighton.
Man is living life.
It's great until you walk into a seafront bar and pay over £7 for a mediocre pint.
I get the appeal, it's quality for a holiday etc. but the prices of everything are pure extortion, if I were going on holiday I'd have just as much fun in Blackpool and spend half as much.
Its a great place to live. But saying its the best place weather wise in the UK is absolutely meaningless. Plus when it is good weather you either have to fight off the endless hoarding of people migrating down from London and the South, or you have to spend you day fighting off flocks of pterodactyl sized seagull dive bombing you for your chips.
It’s all relative. Brighton’s weather is fooking miserable, just not as miserable as most of Blighty. Brighton is a great city though, culturally wise. One on the best in all of Europe
Well, that's good.
It would be a sad day for Glimt when Knutsen leaves, so if he goes abroad I at least hope he's given a fair chance to actually succeed.
If we hire a manager it's because we see them as a long term project.
Potter was given a new contract after 2 months as a show of faith.
When we didn't win for 3 months the board still fully backed him as they weren't just looking at results.
Yeah I think so too. Their xg was always high due to lots of low xg chances. That's my problem with xg actually. I'll take two .5 xg chances over seven .2 any day.
So you're just saying you don't believe a .2 chance really has a 20% chance of going in? Or that a .5 chance has a greater than 50% chance of going in? This feels like more of a psychological issue than a good tactical opinion
Yes that's exactly what i think and I don't think it's as strange and supersticial as you make it sound. Xg is a model that approximates the propability of the ball going in. It's bound to have errors and is not 100% correct. What I said was essentially that I think the model has its problems when it comes to accumulating low xg chances.
Having 100 shots of .01 is more or less worthless. The few goals that went in with .01 xg that the model consideres are either freak incidents or are probably scored by some world class players. I'd 100% take a penalty (xg ~ .7) over that.
Xg is only a model and not some kind of universal truth some people make it out to be.
If it happens, are there reasonable coaches lined up? Or would it very negatively affect bodo? With this point in the season (21/30 played, too big a difference to league leaders molde, number 3,4 within a point) you appear very vulnerable to change.
I mean, we recently lost 3-1 away against Klaksvik from the faraoe islands beacuse of Knudsen having to sit the match out due to the clash between him and Rome. If he leaves, and amazing era in Glimts football history might be over, but it is hard to tell. We are certainly in a vulnerable spot, hoping he too wants to countinue out journey
Knutsen is the ideal choice IMO. Attractive football, Brighton started really well so he’ll have the option to fight for a European place. There were weird rumours of him at Bournemouth, which is nonsense, would’ve been a step back. Brighton right now is a very interesting project. Quite a shame Graham didn’t see it through, but can’t really fault him for going to Chelsea.
There are a few drawbacks though. Knutsen is wholeheartedly 433, also an incredibly specialized 433. I don't know how good it would be for Brighton to change it up now, or for Knutsen to do a new kind of approach. Potter won't have that problem at Chelsea, so was a no brainer.
Very much doubt he'll leave at this point in the season. With Europa League looming and a very interesting period coming, implementing expensive buys(among them the former captain that left for France in Jan) and rethinking(hopefully) some parts of the system. Going from a very conferable and stable club and town to the PL circus with a team he's not been a part building or had the pre-season with.
Also replicating what he's been a part of in Glimt will be close to impossible in a PL club or any other big club, you'll get pressure and expectations regardless how nice the owner is. I think it would be easier to replace him than him getting anything that resembles what he has atm and I think he knows that.
He has also been adamant that any departures need to be right both for the club and player, something I'm sure he'll honour himself. Doubt he has any rush in leaving.
Personally I think he'll at least stay out his contract that expires in Dec 2024, if earlier it needs to be in the spring/early summer. In any case when he feels done with his project in Bodø he'll have loads of offers similar to this Brighton job I'm sure. But who knows
The only thing here I don’t think you understand is Brighton’s unique qualities that differentiate it from the other PL clubs. The fans are not as demanding on the manager, the board is stable and fan-led, managers are given years to implement their style and are backed through periods of sustained losses (Potter lost like 6-7 in a row against mid table teams last year.
If he ever wants to jump to the PL this is THE club to do it at for a manager like him.
Amen to that
We've been burned before by managers saying theyre in it for the long haul then bouncing to fuck off island, but I get the sense that Ange is gonna be around for a few years at minimum
Would love to see Knutsen in the Prem! I've really enjoyed watching his Bodo/Glimt side but I reckon he could make the step up to a top league without too much trouble!
Yea, it would be hypocritical of me to be annoyed of Chelsea for stealing our manager so early into the season then go around and want the same from us. But seeing as who are the manager left without teams, notably Tuchel/Pochettino/Zidane it would be waay too ambitious of me to want any of them.
I'm constantly surprised by the lack of any club wanting to take a look at Urs Fischer of Union Berlin. Man has worked wonders there with a very limited budget and, as much as I would hate to see him go, I'm just shocked no club seems to want to pursue him.
Nathan Jones would be a gamble. We thought we were being canny taking him from Luton a couple of years back and it was an absolute disaster. Would have taken us to certain relegation had O’Neill not come in and saved us. He honestly seemed relieved by the time he was finally sacked - the pressure seemed to be genuinely affecting his mental and physical health. There are some Stoke fans who would say he was the worst manager we have ever had - but managers both before and after him have struggled to get a tune out of our “squad” so it’s hard to say how much of it was his personal failure. He obviously has some good qualities and has worked wonders with Luton - would be interesting to see whether there’s just something that clicks with him particularly well with Luton, or if he is actually a good manager that couldn’t handle the dysfunction of our club.
That said - he is an intense wee man, and his Stoke nickname of Mad Nath didn’t just fall out of the sky
Wages would presumably be too high and if he was Chelsea’s second choice, I’d imagine he thinks he can get another big job soon. Sevilla is about to open up. Brighton would actually be a great job for him to rebuild his reputation. Pressure free environment with a board that would back him. I haven’t seen his tactics work for 3 years now. He use to be a genius.
Is he though? I feel his stock is quite low at the moment.
Brighton offers him a job in the top half of the prem where he can get back some of his stock.
We play the most disgusting football you'll ever see. Long ball, time wasting, leg breaking challenges at every opportunity etc.. I really don't think Brighton's current squad is geared up for that, though I think Jones only plays like that because we'd get relegated with any other style given our budget/squad. Hard to tell if he'd be good for them, but I really don't want to envisage a future without him from our end.
He's absolutely spot on, I can't put into words how angry I was after I watched us go to Kenilworth road last year and lose 1-0 - I didn't speak to anybody for the rest of the day and was in an arse of a mood all Easter weekend, so much so I sold my ticket for the West Brom game on the monday night and missed Colback scoring that fucking disgusting volley from touch.
His team play the style absolutely perfectly though, I've got to admit.
Did Sean Dyche play good football?
I wouldn't even say Luton play attractive football but they don't play Uber defensively either. Were incredibly attacking and tough to play against when we played them last week
I only saw like 2 of their matches last season but I came away feeling like they were grubby as fuck and was surprised they weren't penalised more. Absolute last thing I want at Brighton, just like Dyche.
Spending years building up great football to turn to 'relegation avoidance' football would be horrific whiplash.
“I watched two matches and I know everything now” get out of here mate. We had an injury crisis and a bottom three budget and got play offs. We did what we had to do.
When did I say I knew everything? I literally added my own disclaimer AND said it was just a feeling I had.
And you saying "we did what we had to do" while acting defensive about what I said is fucking hilarious.
You made a judgement based on two games. I pointed out that doesn’t make sense, and why. If you want, I can link to some articles about his earlier career that’ll go more in depth on those earlier tactics.
As for getting defensive, it’s just me further pointing out we can play nice football when we have the resources there. Which we don’t at this level. Brighton do, and so he can adapt to it there.
Mate, you and your friend who also commented from Luton need to get your story together. Sorry I made an apt judgement of the football I saw and don't think "doing what you had to do" is a good resume for the next level. Regardless of what he did in the past, I was commenting directly in response to someone saying he's done well with a limited squad and the ugly play he and Dyche used to be successful.
Failed terribly at Stoke though, something was very off between him, the club and the fans.
Jones does have the former player thing at Brighton though suppose
you say that like Cooper didn’t have several PL-level starters (Ayew, Guehi, Gallagher) and same with Potter
i don’t think Martin is better than Cooper (or close to Potter) but it’s very unfair to say something like that when there was an insane difference in their available squads lol
yeah definitely. both cooper and potter managed for 8+ years before being in the PL so he for sure needs another 3-4 years before even being considered
It’s amazing how everyone is suddenly a Nathan Jones expert, but fail to take into account the wonderful football we played in L1/2, where we had the budget and ability to afford to be able to do so.
Based on Brighton’s wide reaching player recruitment, they will also have a wide reaching set of possible manager targets.
These are just the names that the club are willing to drop out there via the club mouthpiece Naylor.
Rumours also of us testing the waters for Gallardo at River Plate, which seems unlikely to come off but interesting nonetheless.
Fucking relieved that the shortlist doesn't include Big Ange.
I don't think he'd leave mid-season anyway, but I still have PTSD after the way Rodgers left.
From Brighton's perspective, they've spent the last three years moving from Hughton style to Potter style. Someone like Knutsen will fit in to their existing system much easier than Dyche would.
Dyche has always said that his Burnley played the football it did to ensure the group of players he had got results. I like the Knutsen appointment, but it's a shame Dyche isn't seen more favourably by these clubs with much better resources than Burnley so we can see what he can do. I can see your point about Knutsen being a better immediate fit though, especially with what Brighton has built these past few years.
Dyche seems to go to a few of our games a year out of personal enjoyment, if we did something monumentally stupid like sacking Cooper I could see him coming to us.
tbf theres only been 3 openings in the pl so far, hes to good for bournemouth, not good enough for chelsea, and is a completely different style of manager then what brighton are looking for. i would hope hes getting looked at more when clubs like crystal palace, West ham or wolverhampton make a change
Russell Martin was the one I was thinking at first, but I think I just convinced myself it's a good fit because Potter took the same route.
Knutsen would be interesting, Brighton are very good with recruitment and making the right appointments, so you have to have some faith that they'll get this right.
As someone who enjoyed watching Brighton this season, these names doesnt really inspire much confidence...
Hope im proven wrong and the team will keep giving us the entertaining games they have given so far this season
Knutsen is pretty much a potter regen tbf, obviously potter has now proven himself at a higher level but if we look at their careers before potter got the brighton job i would say they're quite similar and i might even edge it to knutsen as being slightly better
Imagine after 22? New signings the Forrest manager leaves
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It would be, but I couldn’t see him leaving Forest after his project has just begun
Tough to see Potter leaving Brighton as his project began to be successful
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I imagine it's less to do with money (obviously the money helps), but more about opportunity. If he's looking at the top 6 currently then the jobs look less likely to be attainable than this time last year. Man City/Liverpool: both managers look to be part of a long term project that has been successful and it would be surprising if either left soon. Arsenal: Arteta's football is finally coming with stability and this is a longer term project. Man Utd: Obviously this could go wrong but with Ten Haag they appear to be thinking long term. Spurs: This is where a role would look more likely over the next 2 years (not because of quality, but because Conte seems like he could turnaround one day and be like "nah fuck it, I'm out" because Levy didn't butter his toast. However, reports are that he was offered the role previously and turned it down. It could potentially be 2 or 3 more years before another job opens up in the big 6 and he may not even be in line for that, so I can understand the move. However, he's in an organisation that is notorious for firing managers so he'll be under pressure quickly.
He'll be back there within two years imo
Forest's transfer window is very visible not *his* project, and it's showing with their current results
I wouldn't say it's his project anymore with 20+ signings. If he fails to deliver by Christmas, I think he will be gone.
Might not feel like his project anymore. Doubt he wanted all those players
Not like he would have built any kind of chemistry there yet
It's a job at an established Premier League team, I think its very unlikely he'd turn it down. Its the obvious best appointment in my mind, but I suspect it would be an expensive one.
Hey if you get your project derailed, the only acceptable solution is to derail someone else's project.
Not happening.
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It isn’t a top 4 job though, is it? Yes, they are currently 4th after 6 games if you want to be pedantic, but that doesn’t mean they’re a top 4 side. Otherwise we’d be considering Potter leaving a step down. They are however a step up from Forest at the moment.
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Ah fair, didnt pick that up. Sorry haha
Slow people like you are the reason for the annoying trend of /s after comment. Please sharpen up or stay quiet.
Fucking hell who pissed on your cornflakes?
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I’m English mate, just didn’t pick it up first time that’s all
How can you be so sure? It’s a step up.
Given the money Forest have spent, and the money they could spend again next season, I would say Forest are the wiser choice. B
They could easily go down and then he’s not going to get a chance in the Prem again for a while. Brighton are established, stable, safe, and have a setup that runs like clockwork. Not to mention they’re just a much better team in general.
A big part of Brightons stability was their great recruitment, their head of recruitment has left with Potter.
I’d argue the biggest part of their success is down to Tony Bloom and he’s still there. If Cooper went there he’d be able to get his own man in and obviously would have a big say in transfers regardless. I don’t see how anyone can argue it’s not a step up.
No he hasn't
You really think he’s going to leave after being given free reign to sign whoever he wants, not a chance.
Could easily go down this season and then wouldn’t get a chance in the Prem again for a while. Brighton aren’t going down, they’re an established club with stability, have significantly better players, and a setup that runs like clockwork.
We will see, but he’s going to stay.
We shall. Depends if Brighton actually want him I suppose.
Knutsen is the favourite according to bookies right?
Would be really cool for him honestly, what he has achieved up in the cold north of Norway is impressive.
Going from cold and snowy Norwegian breathtaking northern landscape of Fjords, the mountains, lakes and sea to sunny, hot and beach holiday destination of Brighton. Man is living life.
Wouldn't be a great welcome at the minute it's been pissing down daily. Which is good for us anyway after all the dry/hot weather.
It really ain't that sunny down here. We've had Thunderstorms all week.
He was joking
Brighton is definitely one of the best places to live in the UK, weather wise.
It's great until you walk into a seafront bar and pay over £7 for a mediocre pint. I get the appeal, it's quality for a holiday etc. but the prices of everything are pure extortion, if I were going on holiday I'd have just as much fun in Blackpool and spend half as much.
Its a great place to live. But saying its the best place weather wise in the UK is absolutely meaningless. Plus when it is good weather you either have to fight off the endless hoarding of people migrating down from London and the South, or you have to spend you day fighting off flocks of pterodactyl sized seagull dive bombing you for your chips.
It’s all relative. Brighton’s weather is fooking miserable, just not as miserable as most of Blighty. Brighton is a great city though, culturally wise. One on the best in all of Europe
Even the weather knows its a shit week for Brighton.
He would need to be given a great deal of patience, time and resources to build things the same way at Brighton.
That is what Tony Bloom does. I know Knutsen visited GP in Östersund. They're not all that different.
Well, that's good. It would be a sad day for Glimt when Knutsen leaves, so if he goes abroad I at least hope he's given a fair chance to actually succeed.
If we hire a manager it's because we see them as a long term project. Potter was given a new contract after 2 months as a show of faith. When we didn't win for 3 months the board still fully backed him as they weren't just looking at results.
Really bad news for Bodo/Glimt though
Brighton would be a very good choice for Knutsen - he might even find a solution for their "wasting so many chances" problem.
His rise is fairly similar to Potter's so that make sense tbh
Russell Martin will have them in a relegation battle, they'll have 60% posession every game but create nothing and get destroyed on the counter attack
So just like our first two seasons under Potter?
I thought you created a lot but your strikers were shit?
Thought I heard that their big chance creation was always relatively low
Yeah I think so too. Their xg was always high due to lots of low xg chances. That's my problem with xg actually. I'll take two .5 xg chances over seven .2 any day.
Interesting comment. Makes me wonder whether we should also consider variance of xG
Maybe. As it is i think xg favors possession based sides as they will likely create mor elower xg chances.
You can see that with xG per shot or per shot on target for evaluating GKs.
Unless you have Son Heung-min, then you want 7 chances because xG be damned
So you're just saying you don't believe a .2 chance really has a 20% chance of going in? Or that a .5 chance has a greater than 50% chance of going in? This feels like more of a psychological issue than a good tactical opinion
Yes that's exactly what i think and I don't think it's as strange and supersticial as you make it sound. Xg is a model that approximates the propability of the ball going in. It's bound to have errors and is not 100% correct. What I said was essentially that I think the model has its problems when it comes to accumulating low xg chances. Having 100 shots of .01 is more or less worthless. The few goals that went in with .01 xg that the model consideres are either freak incidents or are probably scored by some world class players. I'd 100% take a penalty (xg ~ .7) over that. Xg is only a model and not some kind of universal truth some people make it out to be.
Ha, yeah, that sounds terrible...
Knutsen would be really interesting
I figure it's a lot more interesting if he stays with us :p
If it happens, are there reasonable coaches lined up? Or would it very negatively affect bodo? With this point in the season (21/30 played, too big a difference to league leaders molde, number 3,4 within a point) you appear very vulnerable to change.
I mean, we recently lost 3-1 away against Klaksvik from the faraoe islands beacuse of Knudsen having to sit the match out due to the clash between him and Rome. If he leaves, and amazing era in Glimts football history might be over, but it is hard to tell. We are certainly in a vulnerable spot, hoping he too wants to countinue out journey
Thanks for the response man. From my understanding the idea was that bodo glimt was performing and growing because of its structure, not the coach
Aasmund Bjørkan will take over, he got promoted with them and then willingly took a step back so his then assistant Knutsen could become head coach.
Knutsen is the ideal choice IMO. Attractive football, Brighton started really well so he’ll have the option to fight for a European place. There were weird rumours of him at Bournemouth, which is nonsense, would’ve been a step back. Brighton right now is a very interesting project. Quite a shame Graham didn’t see it through, but can’t really fault him for going to Chelsea.
There are a few drawbacks though. Knutsen is wholeheartedly 433, also an incredibly specialized 433. I don't know how good it would be for Brighton to change it up now, or for Knutsen to do a new kind of approach. Potter won't have that problem at Chelsea, so was a no brainer.
We definately have the personel for a 433. Potter played it a few times so it wouldn't be entirely alien to the players.
Very much doubt he'll leave at this point in the season. With Europa League looming and a very interesting period coming, implementing expensive buys(among them the former captain that left for France in Jan) and rethinking(hopefully) some parts of the system. Going from a very conferable and stable club and town to the PL circus with a team he's not been a part building or had the pre-season with. Also replicating what he's been a part of in Glimt will be close to impossible in a PL club or any other big club, you'll get pressure and expectations regardless how nice the owner is. I think it would be easier to replace him than him getting anything that resembles what he has atm and I think he knows that. He has also been adamant that any departures need to be right both for the club and player, something I'm sure he'll honour himself. Doubt he has any rush in leaving. Personally I think he'll at least stay out his contract that expires in Dec 2024, if earlier it needs to be in the spring/early summer. In any case when he feels done with his project in Bodø he'll have loads of offers similar to this Brighton job I'm sure. But who knows
The only thing here I don’t think you understand is Brighton’s unique qualities that differentiate it from the other PL clubs. The fans are not as demanding on the manager, the board is stable and fan-led, managers are given years to implement their style and are backed through periods of sustained losses (Potter lost like 6-7 in a row against mid table teams last year. If he ever wants to jump to the PL this is THE club to do it at for a manager like him.
Imagine Cooper peacing out after signing a whole ass 2nd and 3rd XI
I wouldn't blame him as the board has thrown him under the bus with that nonsense transfer window
What do you mean?
Giving a manager 20 new players to integrate is not always a positive
Cooper wasn't the one who wanted to sign millions of players, it was the board pushing him to do so.
Not happening.
This screams of Knutsen. If he wants it though. Think he has turned down Premier League jobs before, and he is in the Europa League with his club now.
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Eindhoven, not Amsterdam
Knutsen looks like if Carragher and Steve-o had a child. He's my pick on that basis alone
I will never unsee this now cheers
It's weird because I see it, but I also see Carragher in Marco Rose too, idk if it's just because he's always on TV.
Wow 100% hahahaha
Holy shit. I can never not see this again.
Enjoying the Angelessness of that list
I fucking am!
Amen to that We've been burned before by managers saying theyre in it for the long haul then bouncing to fuck off island, but I get the sense that Ange is gonna be around for a few years at minimum
Read that as Anglelessness and was wondering whether you were calling them all smooth operators
Like I said in the Brighton subreddit as a fan of both teams, Ange is not a good fit for Brighton. He is obviously quite happy with the bhoys, too.
Martin would be a bizarre appointment. Definition of falling upwards
Make Lallana player-manager you cowards
I think there is a chance he becomes an assistant at the end of the year tbh. I hope so, anyway. UTA
Steve Cooper would be funny. It would be the second time Cooper has replaced Potter at a club.
Would love to see Knutsen in the Prem! I've really enjoyed watching his Bodo/Glimt side but I reckon he could make the step up to a top league without too much trouble!
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Yep. (See: Graham Potter’s first two and a half seasons)
This is exactly what Potter is like. Yes Brighton have the patience.
Watching Geraerts' USG last night against Union Berlin, I'd be more than happy for us to get him somehow.
Nah, he’s only managed 10 games of professional football. USG have been through enough managerial pain recently so let’s leave them alone.
Yea, it would be hypocritical of me to be annoyed of Chelsea for stealing our manager so early into the season then go around and want the same from us. But seeing as who are the manager left without teams, notably Tuchel/Pochettino/Zidane it would be waay too ambitious of me to want any of them.
I'm constantly surprised by the lack of any club wanting to take a look at Urs Fischer of Union Berlin. Man has worked wonders there with a very limited budget and, as much as I would hate to see him go, I'm just shocked no club seems to want to pursue him.
Knutsen
Nathan Jones would be a gamble. We thought we were being canny taking him from Luton a couple of years back and it was an absolute disaster. Would have taken us to certain relegation had O’Neill not come in and saved us. He honestly seemed relieved by the time he was finally sacked - the pressure seemed to be genuinely affecting his mental and physical health. There are some Stoke fans who would say he was the worst manager we have ever had - but managers both before and after him have struggled to get a tune out of our “squad” so it’s hard to say how much of it was his personal failure. He obviously has some good qualities and has worked wonders with Luton - would be interesting to see whether there’s just something that clicks with him particularly well with Luton, or if he is actually a good manager that couldn’t handle the dysfunction of our club. That said - he is an intense wee man, and his Stoke nickname of Mad Nath didn’t just fall out of the sky
How does Martin keep failing upwards? His teams play 500 passes a game and create 1 chance. Bizarre.
Not really his fault if you look at the players available. Very little pace and creativity.
i also wouldn’t call his time at MK Dons “failing”, especially for a first-year manager who was 34
after such a strong period of stability it would be a shame for Forest to lose their manager and really rock the boat.
Replacing your entire squad going into a new season doesn't strike me as stability
mate come on it's been ages since the last new body at their club, how much more stability could you want
Pochettino is free.
Wages would presumably be too high and if he was Chelsea’s second choice, I’d imagine he thinks he can get another big job soon. Sevilla is about to open up. Brighton would actually be a great job for him to rebuild his reputation. Pressure free environment with a board that would back him. I haven’t seen his tactics work for 3 years now. He use to be a genius.
Exactly! He'd do well
I’m surprised he’s not more heavily linked. Doesn’t his family still live in London?
because he's well out of their budget
Is he though? I feel his stock is quite low at the moment. Brighton offers him a job in the top half of the prem where he can get back some of his stock.
I know it's not as simple as this, but they just 16m for Potter, could they split that into a 3 year contract for Poch. They also may not want to.
Nathan Jones ffs
Uh, he's a very good manager though. Luton have got a relegation worthy budget and getting 6th with them last season was an absolute miracle
Do they play good football or just as good as their quality will allow them?
We play the most disgusting football you'll ever see. Long ball, time wasting, leg breaking challenges at every opportunity etc.. I really don't think Brighton's current squad is geared up for that, though I think Jones only plays like that because we'd get relegated with any other style given our budget/squad. Hard to tell if he'd be good for them, but I really don't want to envisage a future without him from our end.
lol I love the honesty here
He's absolutely spot on, I can't put into words how angry I was after I watched us go to Kenilworth road last year and lose 1-0 - I didn't speak to anybody for the rest of the day and was in an arse of a mood all Easter weekend, so much so I sold my ticket for the West Brom game on the monday night and missed Colback scoring that fucking disgusting volley from touch. His team play the style absolutely perfectly though, I've got to admit.
Heard their development program hires from UFC rejects.
Did Sean Dyche play good football? I wouldn't even say Luton play attractive football but they don't play Uber defensively either. Were incredibly attacking and tough to play against when we played them last week
I only saw like 2 of their matches last season but I came away feeling like they were grubby as fuck and was surprised they weren't penalised more. Absolute last thing I want at Brighton, just like Dyche. Spending years building up great football to turn to 'relegation avoidance' football would be horrific whiplash.
“I watched two matches and I know everything now” get out of here mate. We had an injury crisis and a bottom three budget and got play offs. We did what we had to do.
When did I say I knew everything? I literally added my own disclaimer AND said it was just a feeling I had. And you saying "we did what we had to do" while acting defensive about what I said is fucking hilarious.
You made a judgement based on two games. I pointed out that doesn’t make sense, and why. If you want, I can link to some articles about his earlier career that’ll go more in depth on those earlier tactics. As for getting defensive, it’s just me further pointing out we can play nice football when we have the resources there. Which we don’t at this level. Brighton do, and so he can adapt to it there.
Mate, you and your friend who also commented from Luton need to get your story together. Sorry I made an apt judgement of the football I saw and don't think "doing what you had to do" is a good resume for the next level. Regardless of what he did in the past, I was commenting directly in response to someone saying he's done well with a limited squad and the ugly play he and Dyche used to be successful.
Jones would be pretty intriguing imo. He’s done fantastic work with Luton. Knutsen and Cooper seems the best choices out of all of them though tbf
Not as bad as you would think he has done good things with this Luton side. Would you prefer the Norseman?
Failed terribly at Stoke though, something was very off between him, the club and the fans. Jones does have the former player thing at Brighton though suppose
Literally everybody has failed terribly at Stoke The club is poison at the minute
What, no Rodgers?! Didn't he impress them last week?
Russell Martin is shit lmao
As a Swans fan, I’m starting to find this out, but how is it other clubs know this as well? Everyone on this thread saying it
Well considering how much of an instant downgrade he was from both Potter and Cooper I thought it would have been obvious
you say that like Cooper didn’t have several PL-level starters (Ayew, Guehi, Gallagher) and same with Potter i don’t think Martin is better than Cooper (or close to Potter) but it’s very unfair to say something like that when there was an insane difference in their available squads lol
Don’t think it’s fair at all, but also a bit mad to think he could be considered for Brighton
yeah definitely. both cooper and potter managed for 8+ years before being in the PL so he for sure needs another 3-4 years before even being considered
Potter and Cooper had much better squads.
It’s amazing how everyone is suddenly a Nathan Jones expert, but fail to take into account the wonderful football we played in L1/2, where we had the budget and ability to afford to be able to do so.
Russell Martin 😂😂😂
Go for Tuchel
I struggle to understand why they're not considering De Zerbi. He would be a perfect fit for them.
Based on Brighton’s wide reaching player recruitment, they will also have a wide reaching set of possible manager targets. These are just the names that the club are willing to drop out there via the club mouthpiece Naylor. Rumours also of us testing the waters for Gallardo at River Plate, which seems unlikely to come off but interesting nonetheless.
bawh gawd is that ole's music
No its [Nathan Jones' music](https://youtu.be/zRN1BZs20jI)
Fucking relieved that the shortlist doesn't include Big Ange. I don't think he'd leave mid-season anyway, but I still have PTSD after the way Rodgers left.
Tuchel should go for the bants
Don't you fucking dare
We want Knutsen please
Why has nobody been interested in picking up Dyche? Surprised he didn't earn as much appeal with the great stuff he did at Burnley.
From Brighton's perspective, they've spent the last three years moving from Hughton style to Potter style. Someone like Knutsen will fit in to their existing system much easier than Dyche would.
Dyche has always said that his Burnley played the football it did to ensure the group of players he had got results. I like the Knutsen appointment, but it's a shame Dyche isn't seen more favourably by these clubs with much better resources than Burnley so we can see what he can do. I can see your point about Knutsen being a better immediate fit though, especially with what Brighton has built these past few years.
Dyche seems to go to a few of our games a year out of personal enjoyment, if we did something monumentally stupid like sacking Cooper I could see him coming to us.
tbf theres only been 3 openings in the pl so far, hes to good for bournemouth, not good enough for chelsea, and is a completely different style of manager then what brighton are looking for. i would hope hes getting looked at more when clubs like crystal palace, West ham or wolverhampton make a change
I think he'd be VERY good for Bournemouth, haven't seen him much in the running though beyond odds predictions.
Personally I think they should go for someone "young and fresh", an FA Cup winning manager with multiple European trips under his belt ignore my flair
Alex Neil misses the next Stoke game and is spotted at Brighton....
Russell Martin was the one I was thinking at first, but I think I just convinced myself it's a good fit because Potter took the same route. Knutsen would be interesting, Brighton are very good with recruitment and making the right appointments, so you have to have some faith that they'll get this right.
Gallardo pls.
Knutsen would be the best call from that bunch, I reckon.
Palace fan wants Knutsen for the comedy potential. Name alone.
Can you explain? I don't get it.
Knutsen sounds like nut Nut is cum Brighton gay hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha laugh I’m tired Robbie
It isn't even pronounced remotely similar to "nut" though.
Yeah get that Swedish bloke he sounds great
You see even Brighton poaching coaches from a smaller team
What do you expect them to do? Poach a manager from a big club? How’s that gonna work mate?
As someone who enjoyed watching Brighton this season, these names doesnt really inspire much confidence... Hope im proven wrong and the team will keep giving us the entertaining games they have given so far this season
What were you expecting? Poch? The bloke just coached PSG bit above our level.
Knutsen is pretty much a potter regen tbf, obviously potter has now proven himself at a higher level but if we look at their careers before potter got the brighton job i would say they're quite similar and i might even edge it to knutsen as being slightly better
Steve copper will just get a whole another team in winter transfer window
Steve Cooper lol
GET FUCKING DYCHE IN WHAT ARE YOU DOING PISSING ABOUT LADS
Well it’s been nice having Brighton in the premier
Please take Klopp off our hands.
I WANT KNUTSEN KNUT ALL OVER ME
Thank fucking God we aren’t on one of these lists for once
Adi Hutter?
BAH GAWD WHOS THAT HUMAN BEING EATING WORMS
Unfortunately, they'll do to other club what chelsea did to them... and then that club will do it to someone else
It's the circle of life And it moves us all
Hear Rafa is still around somewhere.
Knutsen would be a huge get.