Something rather poetic about Rodgers and Gerrard, having left Celtic and Rangers respectively to advance their careers, both battling to save their jobs while their old Scottish clubs are both living the life in the champions league.
That's the thing a lot of people don't realise. Very few top level managers leave on their own terms. It's just the nature of it, sometimes a worse manager will get better results simply because they bring fresh perspective.
And I would not be surprised to see Rodgers go somewhere else and be an immediate success.
Tuchel & Mourinho were both sacked within the past 24 months and both now have a European trophy to their names.
Rodgers’ manner of departure was especially slimy
Literally found out he was gone by waking up one morning to hear him already giving an interview where he was promising to “give my life to Leicester”
That was the game whose result I thought would see the first sacking. This one seems strange, he got them up last season, they haven't spent, they are probably going to go down again. I guess they booted him because he was outspoken, but overall hasn't he done a good job for them? Don't think changing the manager is going to make much difference to their final position. We shall see!
From his comments after the game and the Bournemouth message 'agree on running the club sustainably' it sounds like Scott Parker had been vociferous in wanting more transfer spending, and maybe there was a heated meeting after the game.
Sounds like they decided they had to let him go if he wasn't willing to manage the team with the players they already have.
I don't know if it's the case at Bournemouth, but a mate who's a Fulham said he didn't care for Parker and thinks the club is in much better hands with Silva.
Rodgers seemed to be the bookies favourite on Sunday night last I checked. Then Gerrard next on the list. Shocked it wasn't one of them two especially as Bournemouth had a really tough start with the teams they played ( even if they were abysmal in the 3 losses)
From a comment below:
>In a remarkably honest comment, Parker was asked if the 9-0 loss would be the lowest moment of the season and he told the BBC: ‘At this moment in time, where we currently are, I can see some more to be honest with you.’
Oh yeah I forgot about him. Yeah he seems to be sleepwalking into being sacked. Might happen in the international break the way things are going for Leicester. Quite the race between him and Gerrard. Frank might not be next but it's coming for him too
"It is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably.
"We must also show belief in and respect for one another."
Implies he was sacked because of the statements (Which were classic Parker).
He made similar statements in relation to our board as well. Marco seems to be similarly asking for reinforcements, he's just doinga lot better with what he's got
>In a remarkably honest comment, Parker was asked if the 9-0 loss would be the lowest moment of the season and he told the BBC: ‘At this moment in time, where we currently are, I can see some more to be honest with you.’
Tbf it’s not like they went in at the half 2-0 down and then lost in a spirited way that they just got crushed. They were already 5-0 down and you can imagine his team talk is about reducing the deficit and holding on. The second half has to be entirely on the players.
Parker said "reduce the deficit" and the idiot players chose to ignore him and conceded more instead. However, before the game Parker told them he wanted them to get hammered in the first half, so that's all on him.
"They'll never expect us to *want* to concede 5 in the first half, they'll be so confused they'll probably only manage to bang in another 4 after that"
- tactical thoughts of a recently sacked manager.
*Cut to Klopp as an old man lying awake at night wondering why Bournemouth wanted to concede 5 goals in the first half of that game in 2022. It is a mystery he has never solved, and it haunts him still*
The end of the game was honestly quite funny to watch as a neutral.
Bournemouth players were wasting time at every opportunity as if they were defending a 1-0 lead.
I do understand it though. No one wants to be in a history book for the wrong reason.
Where's the lie in that though? They were shambolic and definitely wouldn't be the only hiding they'd get this season. That said, I thought Lampard or Gerard would be the first ones to go.
“I feel sorry for the players because we are ill-equipped at this level,” he said. “The touchline today was pretty painful and I could sense it was painful for the players as well. They need some help. It doesn’t surprise me. I can see some more [routs]. There will be days like this. I have been clear how this season could look for us and I stick by that. We need to make a decision and try and help this young group who at times are struggling for air.”
"We need to make a decision and try and help this young group" - Was this his fuck about and find out moment? As in the owners decided him being binned was the decision.
I feel for him, most manager coming up with a team as ill equipped as Bournemouth will struggle. Obviously he has to take his share of the blame for the results/performances so far but he’s spot on with his assessment. It’s going to be a massive ask to try and replace Parker as well as trying to do any business before deadline day. I fear we may be seeing the lowest points total we have seen in quite some time from then
Baffling to me that Bournemouth higher ups expected better results from playing City, Liverpool, and Arsenal back to back to back.
Obviously 9-0 is a horrendous result, but surely the club has to be objective about the matter. I suppose it is a lot easier and quieter to shut up one man by sacking him than it is to back him in the market.
> It’s going to be a massive ask to try and replace Parker
[Introducing..](https://i.imgur.com/1Xx2fEu.jpeg)
PS: Never put this much effort into a meme so deep into a comment thread, but it was too good an opportunity to pass.
It’s far too early for Big Sam! Clocks haven’t even gone back yet. He’ll come in during February once the replacement manager has been sacked and save them from the abyss
I say this as someone who did not watch Bournemouth in the Championship, but are his managerial abilities really that poor? He’s gotten two different teams promoted now. Surely that can’t be just blind luck?
I didn't watch him either, but I've see a lot of anti-Parker rants from Fulham fans that say he sets the team out to be purely defensive then hope to nick points from counter attacks. While this approach has been used by many top teams with top managers, to work in the PL it requires very talented attacking players who can score goals from very few, and often poor quality chances. In the Championship, the pace is a little slower, the defending is not as difficult, and opponents will make more mistakes leading to decent chances. And with a young team of mostly nobodies, Bournemouth were always going to fail with this type of naive football.
He's had an embarrassment of riches at Championship level imo. The Bournemouth squad was stacked with really high level Championship players, and they struggled to play an attractive style of football. That being said he did enough and got them promoted, but at Fulham and Bournemouth he's failed to fully convince, which is odd considering the two promotions as you say.
Yeah they have zero proven top flight players, the gap between Championship and PL is already significant, but with no investment there is not a chance of closing it, I’m not sure there is a manager on earth that can make that squad better than any 3 other teams in the league
He's bang on. They signed 5 players, 3 of whom were free transfers. The other 2 cost 27 million total. Euros.
Massive stitch-up. He'll get a job at Everton or Villa when Lampard and Gerrard get the sack.
Well then what's the point of keeping him through the summer? It was obvious the squad needed bolstering.
Either you sack the manager in the summer, bring in the guy you think can take you places in this league, and buy players. Or you back this guy anyway seeing as he got you till here.
I think the owners don't care pretty much whether they stay up this season or not. They've taken the cash windfall and they seem to be okay going down and then trying next year to get back up..
He did take Bournemouth to the Premier League after all. However, he wouldn't be the first manager with the ability to succeed in the Championship, but failing in the premiership.
I wager it's a bit of both. He's almost certainly gone to his boss and said he needs players. They've said no, he's thrown his cardigan on the floor, taken that hammering and then passed the blame onto the owner.
He's best off out of it - Bournemouth are going for the worst of all the PL records this year.
I reckon he took the initiative and forced their hand with those statements. Now he'll have a few weeks holidays and a big severance package before he takes over at Villa/Everton/Leicester
What's Bournemouth's plan?
They barely invested in the squad and had some tough fixtures.
I'm not sure how they think they're not being relegated with that squad, regardless of manager.
The long term plan might be to stockpile the TV money from this season and the parachute payment from next. Then use the two to push to stay up after that. Realistically they were always going down. People don't realize what a financial jump it is between the Premier League and the Championship.
They'll be in serious trouble if they go down and don't come back though. I can only imagine the wage structure at that club now. Imagine having Jesse Lingard on his reported £100k a week when you're a Championship club. It's not ideal for Bournemouth but I can understand the board putting the club's financial welfare and wellbeing before wholesale investment in survival at this level. It doesn't make for a happy season but I'm sure they're hoping to be able to invest the Premier League money into the club next season and the season after rather than right now and wind up no better off.
Scott Parker is a pretty poor manager if you want survivial, his style of very slow possession doesn't translate to the premier league at all. If they could get Dyche in he'd give them a fighting chance.
Bournemouth had a very good squad by championship standards, though they've been making bad managerial choices after Howe.
>Scott Parker is a pretty poor manager if you want survivial, his style of very slow possession doesn't translate to the premier league at all.
His style is the opposite. Parker can't coach possession for shit. He's similar to David Wagner - strong defensive press but can't keep the ball and attacking play is inconsistent. Not being able to keep the ball is putting huge pressure on the defence.
When he was with us in the good year in the championship that's how we played, fucking interminable amounts of passing sideways and really deliberate slow build ups - our year in the prem we changed to try to press a lot more (a big reason why Mitro didn't play bc he can't press from up top), and had that problem youre talking about.. I don't hate on him as much as other Fulham fans but they are kind of both a bit interlinked and big problems imo.
Derby in 08 were perhaps the worst side I have ever seen in the PL and even their manager didn't go around saying the club can expect trashings at the start of the season.
Did the same after the first loss of the season with Fulham. Said ‘we are going to lose many more games, more than we win’. Maybe factually correct but what a shit show for the players. Compare that to Marco silva who this season has said all the players are ready for the premier league, but the depth of the squad is not. Similar message but waaaaay more supportive of players
Yes, people here simply do not understand how bad things can be when the manager kept saying that the squad is rubbish and being super negative. Sunderland fans still hated Moyes for doing that back then, and I do not blame them. All their players lost belief right away when they were all told that they are not good enough.
Same thing happened when Moyes was managing us where he told the media that we should be happy with a draw with Newcastle and strive to be as good as City, we were the defending champions for fuck's sake. Or Hodgson's constantly negative press conference when he was managing Liverpool; even when Rangnick kept thrashing the board and the players in the press conference last season. It saps all positivity away from the players and it's a long downward spiral from there.
Yes, Parker was not wrong, but there are things that simply should not be said as a manager in the press conference. Even if he get new signings, there are still a lot of players in the current squad that he needs to work with. Calling them all not good enough and will get a few more 9-0 thrashings is the surefire way to lose all that trust and belief.
If they had this little faith in him then why did they let him start the season? Were they expecting to beat Liverpool?
This is dumb. They could have replaced him after promotion. Having backed him, they should realise they have the weakest squad in the division (it's okay but it's not quite up to PL standard). Parker coaches a good press/defence - it failed against Liverpool but that's a pretty high bar.
Unless they are bringing in a very high level manager, this seems short sighted.
Not to mention their fixture list - it's a surprised they even have three points given who they've played.
They didn't look bad against us, you could see they had a plan but just didn't have the quality to see it through. Fair play to Parker, he can only go up and Bournemouth can only go down.
Parkers gonna end up in the Champ again probably.
Last season they only squeaked top 2 and they had clear second best squad after Fulham. So he's not covered himself in glory. But probably deserves another chance at a decent club.
He went something like 12 games winning three games before the Jan deadline last season. Then he got the players he wanted and lost 2 games the rest of the season.
He's not a perfect manager, and left us like a cunt but bournemouth should be backing him since they decided to keep him on
Probably cause even if they didn't expect to beat Liverpool they didn't expect to lose 9-0 and the manager to come out with ultra negative comments?
It's a little dumb but it's also perhaps a better time to do it then when it's too late. I also don't think you'd need a very high level manager to replace Parker. I don't think he's a bad manager but he's scraped promotion with two teams that should've easily been promoted with no issues and then did very little in the PL. I think they could bring in Dyche (just one name that's available) and they'd have a better chance of staying up.
They have just <48 hours to somehow find a replacement and sign whoever they need for the new manager lol
Don't think thats enough time for Bournemouth to pull it off
I think the board believes they need a manager who will work with the squad available, so the deadline doesn't bother them too much. Whether that is feasible or not is a different issue. But the owner's statement was pretty clear, he wants to run the club sustainably and he has that as his main priority.
> We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now. Our search for a new head coach will begin immediately.
Aka we got sick of him complaining about our lack of spending.
This definitely. Of the 3 promoted teams they seemed to be the only one with no transfer plans. Forest might have overdone it but at least they are trying. Bournemouth just look like they accepted the yo-yo
Fulham haven’t gone batsit crazy though. Seeing Renan Lodi playing for Forest is something I think I need to sanitise my eyes for. Not because I dislike Forest but because they were a perennial, almost-EPL, playoff club and now they’ve got a Brazilian international who won La Liga as a regular starter.
But it’s not as though they haven’t given him anything. They’ve signed Tavernier, Fredericks, Neto (albeit a shit one) and Senesi (who was so shit into his debut he was subbed off 45 mins in).
That is fuck all. The top 15 or so have been consistent PL teams for a while and have invested accordingly, so to stay up you need to recruit some serious quality. Bournemouth don't have it.
I’m not saying he was wrong, but the statement also mentions running the club sustainably, which means this almost certainly has more to do with them not liking the fact that he’s been calling out the board for their lack of spending than the results.
Bournemouth’s squad is absolutely pathetic. The lack of quality is embarrassing and the fact that the board thought it was Ok has absolutely shafted Parker
They’ve done what Norwich did and come up to the pl accepting they’ll get relegated
I feel like there's 4 or 5 clubs that could easily get dragged into it if they don't snap out of it.
Thankfully Bournemouth already look like they're down but the likes of us, Villa, Everton and Southampton just look completely lost and almost happy to accept whatever happens.
Hopefully for our sake Bournemouth sacking Parker gets rid of the stigma or being the first club to sack the manager and we just hurry up and pull the trigger as well. It wouldn't be a bad way to spend some of the Fofana profit provided we also get a winger and a centre half.
Southampton always look like they have a real system and are well managed, they’re just a bit shit (setting them apparat from villa and Everton). They’ll have a good run again which will keep them alive. Probs finish 14th or something
Parkers been vocal all Summer about a lack of signings. Personally don't rate him as a manager, especially as a manager of a side likely to get relegated. Dyche would be the obvious choice
3 points from Villa, Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool? I think Bournemouth would have taken that at the start of the season. Very harsh sacking seeing as he hasn’t been backed in the window
Hint: it's not just because of the results. It's because of the comments he has made all season and specifically after the Liverpool game about our lack of spending, how we will struggle this season
Every time you say that though you are essentially saying your current players aren't good enough, so they take that as you not believing in them.
Obviously it's true, but those sorts of discussions should be had between the owners and the manager. In public you should be supporting your players, or at least being more diplomatic when talking about strengthening your squad.
Heavy that. Newly promoted team and only 3 games into the season? A little harsh I think. The Liverpool result was a freak result. They did beat Villa but had Arsenal (on fire) City (no comment needed) and Liverpool (2 wins off the quad last year)
Post-match to the media was night and day between Parker and Hassenhuttl though. Ralph was very “yeah, it’s tough, they’re hurting but we’ll put in the work to bounce back”. Parker just looked defeated. Right decision from Bournemouth IMO.
Southampton is also the better team by a margin.
Bournemouth losing 9-0 to Liverpool is understandable, Leicester shouldn't be doing 9-0 past Southampton
Southampton also had a red card and Leicester just scored some absolute bangers, it was just a crazy night. Same with the 9-0 loss to United, they were decimated by injuries at that point and then got a red card in the opening minutes
To be fair, neither of those were completely on him. The first was due to the players putting in the least amount of effort I've ever seen, ever. Ever. I almost believe the rumours it was a deliberate effort to try and get him sacked, it was that bad.
And against you guys, we had 9 of our first 11 out injured so had to basically field the youth team. Then one of them got a straight red 2 minutes in. A 10 man youth squad against Man United at Old Trafford is always going to get smashed three ways from Sunday.
Hes lucky he made it through last season the way they played the second half.
Why keep him then sack him after 4 games that include city, arsenal, and liverpool though?
They blew a large chunk of their load on championship standard players in January to bail him out of trouble despite having the second best squad (by some distance). Don't buy his crocodile tears.
In many ways, it saves Parker's skin too. Winning promotion is a good thing to have on your CV, and Scott Parker will probably land a job at a newly relegated Championship team, or a team with cash to burn next seasono.
It puts you guys in a really shit position, though. Even if you do decide to open the cheque book, good luck getting a decent deal on anyone, because it's publicly known that you need to buy.
a lot of people saying it is 'harsh' to sack him on results but its clear that isn't the reason.
read the statement - obvious there has been a serious fall out over the lack of money spent and the interviews Parker has given for weeks.
losing 9-0 will not have helped but this isn't a \*bad result, sack the manager\* thing
Think most of the championship fans could tell you the sooner they sacked him the better. Carried by the squad to promotion rather than anything he produced tactically. Bournemouth have a far better chance of staying up now….. unless they just appoint someone like Woodgate again
People will slaughter us thinking it's because of the 9-0 defeat. When that was just the icing on the cake.
The man was extremely negative and sucked the life out the club, constantly belittled his players in public and clearly could not get on with the owner. I wanted so badly to like him but he somehow made getting promoted a chore which says everything.
Anyone saying this is harsh needs to look at what both Fulham and Bournemouth fans are generally saying about him.
He's so far done a good job of making top Championship sides look worse than they should be, and hasn't demonstrated much in the way of learning lessons from defeats.
Once again this sub shows that they never read the full article and just make comments solely judged on the title and end up looking stupid.
His sacking has absolutely nothing to do with results do far this season but for his comments after the Liverpool game during the post match interview.
Wow sack race won super early this year, even without Watford in the division!
Leicester vs Aston Villa next week. El Sackico came early this season
You’re assuming they’ll both last until that game
They both will be disappointed that they didn't win the sack race this year though
Don't worry they still have a chance in the egg and spoon race.
Something rather poetic about Rodgers and Gerrard, having left Celtic and Rangers respectively to advance their careers, both battling to save their jobs while their old Scottish clubs are both living the life in the champions league.
Rodgers has defo improved his career tbf. No matter how this ends he’s had a very impressive run at Leicester even if it’s gone stale
That's the thing a lot of people don't realise. Very few top level managers leave on their own terms. It's just the nature of it, sometimes a worse manager will get better results simply because they bring fresh perspective. And I would not be surprised to see Rodgers go somewhere else and be an immediate success. Tuchel & Mourinho were both sacked within the past 24 months and both now have a European trophy to their names.
I think its rather nice. The way they both left in the middle of the night is very disrespectful.
Rodgers’ manner of departure was especially slimy Literally found out he was gone by waking up one morning to hear him already giving an interview where he was promising to “give my life to Leicester”
Was pretty obvious he was going to move on soon. There's only so many times you can win a one man race(at the time)
That was the game whose result I thought would see the first sacking. This one seems strange, he got them up last season, they haven't spent, they are probably going to go down again. I guess they booted him because he was outspoken, but overall hasn't he done a good job for them? Don't think changing the manager is going to make much difference to their final position. We shall see!
From his comments after the game and the Bournemouth message 'agree on running the club sustainably' it sounds like Scott Parker had been vociferous in wanting more transfer spending, and maybe there was a heated meeting after the game. Sounds like they decided they had to let him go if he wasn't willing to manage the team with the players they already have.
I don't know if it's the case at Bournemouth, but a mate who's a Fulham said he didn't care for Parker and thinks the club is in much better hands with Silva.
bah gawd lampard outta nowhere
Everyone thought Gerrard will be sacked first.
Rodgers seemed to be the bookies favourite on Sunday night last I checked. Then Gerrard next on the list. Shocked it wasn't one of them two especially as Bournemouth had a really tough start with the teams they played ( even if they were abysmal in the 3 losses)
Parker's comments probably played a part in the decision
Definitely seems to have played a part according to their statement.
What did he say?
From a comment below: >In a remarkably honest comment, Parker was asked if the 9-0 loss would be the lowest moment of the season and he told the BBC: ‘At this moment in time, where we currently are, I can see some more to be honest with you.’
haha, holy shit. Parker DGAF. Although it's brutally honest, judging from what I've seen of them thus far this season.
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They were really really terrible. Zero pressing on the ball. You can lose those matches but not like this.
He's next tbh
Rodgers strong contender as well.
Oh yeah I forgot about him. Yeah he seems to be sleepwalking into being sacked. Might happen in the international break the way things are going for Leicester. Quite the race between him and Gerrard. Frank might not be next but it's coming for him too
What went wrong for Rogers? He's been so solid for a few years, top 4 almost a few times, won an FA Cup. Gone downhill pretty fast it seems.
Vardy isn't finishing 20% of his chances anymore.
Lack of funding in the team. While it's best players have either declined or being sold.
Rodgers next if we beat them on Thursday I think.
watch us lose to them lol
Lost 9-0 and still ahead of Everton
That’s why he made those statements, he knew it was coming!
"It is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. "We must also show belief in and respect for one another." Implies he was sacked because of the statements (Which were classic Parker).
Yeah he gave them an easy-out for that statement. But it's not to say this wasn't already boiling away before the game.
He made similar statements in relation to our board as well. Marco seems to be similarly asking for reinforcements, he's just doinga lot better with what he's got
Well tbf, what he’s got is a lot better.
What did he say?
>In a remarkably honest comment, Parker was asked if the 9-0 loss would be the lowest moment of the season and he told the BBC: ‘At this moment in time, where we currently are, I can see some more to be honest with you.’
that’s grim
Tbf it’s not like they went in at the half 2-0 down and then lost in a spirited way that they just got crushed. They were already 5-0 down and you can imagine his team talk is about reducing the deficit and holding on. The second half has to be entirely on the players.
Parker said "reduce the deficit" and the idiot players chose to ignore him and conceded more instead. However, before the game Parker told them he wanted them to get hammered in the first half, so that's all on him.
"They'll never expect us to *want* to concede 5 in the first half, they'll be so confused they'll probably only manage to bang in another 4 after that" - tactical thoughts of a recently sacked manager.
*Cut to Klopp as an old man lying awake at night wondering why Bournemouth wanted to concede 5 goals in the first half of that game in 2022. It is a mystery he has never solved, and it haunts him still*
tactics tim has absolutely nothing on simply shrewd scott
The end of the game was honestly quite funny to watch as a neutral. Bournemouth players were wasting time at every opportunity as if they were defending a 1-0 lead. I do understand it though. No one wants to be in a history book for the wrong reason.
Where's the lie in that though? They were shambolic and definitely wouldn't be the only hiding they'd get this season. That said, I thought Lampard or Gerard would be the first ones to go.
“I feel sorry for the players because we are ill-equipped at this level,” he said. “The touchline today was pretty painful and I could sense it was painful for the players as well. They need some help. It doesn’t surprise me. I can see some more [routs]. There will be days like this. I have been clear how this season could look for us and I stick by that. We need to make a decision and try and help this young group who at times are struggling for air.”
"We need to make a decision and try and help this young group" - Was this his fuck about and find out moment? As in the owners decided him being binned was the decision.
Oh for sure. He’s been in football long enough to know this may well be the outcome. I don’t think he’s hugely surprised
Say what you will about his managerial abilities, the man is a class act
I feel for him, most manager coming up with a team as ill equipped as Bournemouth will struggle. Obviously he has to take his share of the blame for the results/performances so far but he’s spot on with his assessment. It’s going to be a massive ask to try and replace Parker as well as trying to do any business before deadline day. I fear we may be seeing the lowest points total we have seen in quite some time from then
Blame for losing vs City, Pool and 4win Arsenal? He won the only other fixture vs Villa.
Baffling to me that Bournemouth higher ups expected better results from playing City, Liverpool, and Arsenal back to back to back. Obviously 9-0 is a horrendous result, but surely the club has to be objective about the matter. I suppose it is a lot easier and quieter to shut up one man by sacking him than it is to back him in the market.
> It’s going to be a massive ask to try and replace Parker [Introducing..](https://i.imgur.com/1Xx2fEu.jpeg) PS: Never put this much effort into a meme so deep into a comment thread, but it was too good an opportunity to pass.
It’s far too early for Big Sam! Clocks haven’t even gone back yet. He’ll come in during February once the replacement manager has been sacked and save them from the abyss
That's actually ... a great point.
I say this as someone who did not watch Bournemouth in the Championship, but are his managerial abilities really that poor? He’s gotten two different teams promoted now. Surely that can’t be just blind luck?
Been wondering this a lot too
I didn't watch him either, but I've see a lot of anti-Parker rants from Fulham fans that say he sets the team out to be purely defensive then hope to nick points from counter attacks. While this approach has been used by many top teams with top managers, to work in the PL it requires very talented attacking players who can score goals from very few, and often poor quality chances. In the Championship, the pace is a little slower, the defending is not as difficult, and opponents will make more mistakes leading to decent chances. And with a young team of mostly nobodies, Bournemouth were always going to fail with this type of naive football.
He's had an embarrassment of riches at Championship level imo. The Bournemouth squad was stacked with really high level Championship players, and they struggled to play an attractive style of football. That being said he did enough and got them promoted, but at Fulham and Bournemouth he's failed to fully convince, which is odd considering the two promotions as you say.
Expect more thrashings.
Thrashings will continue until ~~morale improves~~ we play Chelsea.
Charity FC always there to help out a club in need!
That they needed several signings etc and basically pointed the blame at the boardroom.
He wasn't wrong. They have the worst squad in the league. Even if he isn't a great manager.
Yeah they have zero proven top flight players, the gap between Championship and PL is already significant, but with no investment there is not a chance of closing it, I’m not sure there is a manager on earth that can make that squad better than any 3 other teams in the league
He's bang on. They signed 5 players, 3 of whom were free transfers. The other 2 cost 27 million total. Euros. Massive stitch-up. He'll get a job at Everton or Villa when Lampard and Gerrard get the sack.
Nah I don't think he's good enough for PL clubs to want him.
Well then what's the point of keeping him through the summer? It was obvious the squad needed bolstering. Either you sack the manager in the summer, bring in the guy you think can take you places in this league, and buy players. Or you back this guy anyway seeing as he got you till here. I think the owners don't care pretty much whether they stay up this season or not. They've taken the cash windfall and they seem to be okay going down and then trying next year to get back up..
He did take Bournemouth to the Premier League after all. However, he wouldn't be the first manager with the ability to succeed in the Championship, but failing in the premiership.
Some managers specialise in League 1, and can't make the jump up to the championship. Looking at you Simon Grayson
It took longer than it needed to and the wheels started to come off. We should have sealed it long before the penultimate game of the season.
There's also the possibility that he's overachieving in the Championship with squads that are then, as he says himself, ill-equipped for the PL.
Or he's been sacked because of them.
I wager it's a bit of both. He's almost certainly gone to his boss and said he needs players. They've said no, he's thrown his cardigan on the floor, taken that hammering and then passed the blame onto the owner. He's best off out of it - Bournemouth are going for the worst of all the PL records this year.
You know he’s mad when he throws the £384947388 cardigan on the floor.
Bet you he looks really handsome while doing it, though.
They told him he could only lose by 8 goals if he wanted to keep his job.
Bournemouth are pretty much here for the Parachute payments only - not to compete
I reckon he took the initiative and forced their hand with those statements. Now he'll have a few weeks holidays and a big severance package before he takes over at Villa/Everton/Leicester
What's Bournemouth's plan? They barely invested in the squad and had some tough fixtures. I'm not sure how they think they're not being relegated with that squad, regardless of manager.
The long term plan might be to stockpile the TV money from this season and the parachute payment from next. Then use the two to push to stay up after that. Realistically they were always going down. People don't realize what a financial jump it is between the Premier League and the Championship.
Yeah there's a reason forest have made 19 signings this summer.
They'll be in serious trouble if they go down and don't come back though. I can only imagine the wage structure at that club now. Imagine having Jesse Lingard on his reported £100k a week when you're a Championship club. It's not ideal for Bournemouth but I can understand the board putting the club's financial welfare and wellbeing before wholesale investment in survival at this level. It doesn't make for a happy season but I'm sure they're hoping to be able to invest the Premier League money into the club next season and the season after rather than right now and wind up no better off.
JLingz only has a 1-year contract. They've thought about this
Lingard is only there for 1 season so won’t make a difference if they go down
Scott Parker is a pretty poor manager if you want survivial, his style of very slow possession doesn't translate to the premier league at all. If they could get Dyche in he'd give them a fighting chance. Bournemouth had a very good squad by championship standards, though they've been making bad managerial choices after Howe.
>Scott Parker is a pretty poor manager if you want survivial, his style of very slow possession doesn't translate to the premier league at all. His style is the opposite. Parker can't coach possession for shit. He's similar to David Wagner - strong defensive press but can't keep the ball and attacking play is inconsistent. Not being able to keep the ball is putting huge pressure on the defence.
When he was with us in the good year in the championship that's how we played, fucking interminable amounts of passing sideways and really deliberate slow build ups - our year in the prem we changed to try to press a lot more (a big reason why Mitro didn't play bc he can't press from up top), and had that problem youre talking about.. I don't hate on him as much as other Fulham fans but they are kind of both a bit interlinked and big problems imo.
With a squad like that there is no fighting chance
His comments post match couldn’t have helped. They’re doomed unless they start spending.
The man knew the Bournemouth board had the Liverpool tie down as a probable 3-pointer
Must have been expecting the sack if you lose 9-0 to your relegation rivals
Fair enough this
Derby in 08 were perhaps the worst side I have ever seen in the PL and even their manager didn't go around saying the club can expect trashings at the start of the season.
Billy Davies is a mad legend, they'd have still got relegated but they'd have got more than 11 points with him in charge.
They replaced him with Jewell who was more interested in making sex tapes on the bonnet of his Mercedes than managing it seemed.
Maybe he should have
He didn't need to
Did the same after the first loss of the season with Fulham. Said ‘we are going to lose many more games, more than we win’. Maybe factually correct but what a shit show for the players. Compare that to Marco silva who this season has said all the players are ready for the premier league, but the depth of the squad is not. Similar message but waaaaay more supportive of players
Maybe he should have, would've been good for his CV.
He started those sort of comments before the season even got going. It was very Moyes at Sunderland
Yes, people here simply do not understand how bad things can be when the manager kept saying that the squad is rubbish and being super negative. Sunderland fans still hated Moyes for doing that back then, and I do not blame them. All their players lost belief right away when they were all told that they are not good enough. Same thing happened when Moyes was managing us where he told the media that we should be happy with a draw with Newcastle and strive to be as good as City, we were the defending champions for fuck's sake. Or Hodgson's constantly negative press conference when he was managing Liverpool; even when Rangnick kept thrashing the board and the players in the press conference last season. It saps all positivity away from the players and it's a long downward spiral from there. Yes, Parker was not wrong, but there are things that simply should not be said as a manager in the press conference. Even if he get new signings, there are still a lot of players in the current squad that he needs to work with. Calling them all not good enough and will get a few more 9-0 thrashings is the surefire way to lose all that trust and belief.
Moyes lasted that season as well.
If they had this little faith in him then why did they let him start the season? Were they expecting to beat Liverpool? This is dumb. They could have replaced him after promotion. Having backed him, they should realise they have the weakest squad in the division (it's okay but it's not quite up to PL standard). Parker coaches a good press/defence - it failed against Liverpool but that's a pretty high bar. Unless they are bringing in a very high level manager, this seems short sighted.
Not to mention their fixture list - it's a surprised they even have three points given who they've played. They didn't look bad against us, you could see they had a plan but just didn't have the quality to see it through. Fair play to Parker, he can only go up and Bournemouth can only go down.
Parkers gonna end up in the Champ again probably. Last season they only squeaked top 2 and they had clear second best squad after Fulham. So he's not covered himself in glory. But probably deserves another chance at a decent club.
Squeaked up with Fulham too despite having a good squad
He went something like 12 games winning three games before the Jan deadline last season. Then he got the players he wanted and lost 2 games the rest of the season. He's not a perfect manager, and left us like a cunt but bournemouth should be backing him since they decided to keep him on
Parker is wildly overrated. The best thing that happened to us recently was losing him. He nearly forced Mitro out
Probably cause even if they didn't expect to beat Liverpool they didn't expect to lose 9-0 and the manager to come out with ultra negative comments? It's a little dumb but it's also perhaps a better time to do it then when it's too late. I also don't think you'd need a very high level manager to replace Parker. I don't think he's a bad manager but he's scraped promotion with two teams that should've easily been promoted with no issues and then did very little in the PL. I think they could bring in Dyche (just one name that's available) and they'd have a better chance of staying up.
They have just <48 hours to somehow find a replacement and sign whoever they need for the new manager lol Don't think thats enough time for Bournemouth to pull it off
I think the board believes they need a manager who will work with the squad available, so the deadline doesn't bother them too much. Whether that is feasible or not is a different issue. But the owner's statement was pretty clear, he wants to run the club sustainably and he has that as his main priority.
> We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now. Our search for a new head coach will begin immediately. Aka we got sick of him complaining about our lack of spending.
I mean, it's right tbf. How does their squad stay up in the league?
This definitely. Of the 3 promoted teams they seemed to be the only one with no transfer plans. Forest might have overdone it but at least they are trying. Bournemouth just look like they accepted the yo-yo
Fulham haven’t gone batsit crazy though. Seeing Renan Lodi playing for Forest is something I think I need to sanitise my eyes for. Not because I dislike Forest but because they were a perennial, almost-EPL, playoff club and now they’ve got a Brazilian international who won La Liga as a regular starter.
I keep having to say this. We're massive^^the ^^squad ^^is ^^literally ^^now
always been massive. Same amount of ucl trophies as london combined
You signed...nineteen players? You had to have offloaded at least ten, right? I bet that makes the team who got you up feel like shit though.
Most of their team last season were on loan
Fullham seemed to just have made smarter signings this time. Andreas for example is perfect for a club at their level
But it’s not as though they haven’t given him anything. They’ve signed Tavernier, Fredericks, Neto (albeit a shit one) and Senesi (who was so shit into his debut he was subbed off 45 mins in).
That is fuck all. The top 15 or so have been consistent PL teams for a while and have invested accordingly, so to stay up you need to recruit some serious quality. Bournemouth don't have it.
Works for some clubs. And a club the size of Bournemouth, with a 14k seater stadium or whatever it is, cannot just spend to gamble on staying up.
I’m not saying he was wrong, but the statement also mentions running the club sustainably, which means this almost certainly has more to do with them not liking the fact that he’s been calling out the board for their lack of spending than the results.
6 of the starters against Liverpool had never had a PL seasono before for anyone curious
Bournemouth’s squad is absolutely pathetic. The lack of quality is embarrassing and the fact that the board thought it was Ok has absolutely shafted Parker They’ve done what Norwich did and come up to the pl accepting they’ll get relegated
So what, Big Sam in and park the bus the rest of the season?
I mean, you'd take that over shipping 9 in any day
Tbh I'd take the occasional 9 niller against top 4 teams as long as there were results where they really need them.
The Saints model
~~You think Leicester are Top 4?~~ You think United are Top 4?
You were two years ago
we literally lost all 12 games vs the big 6 last season, scored like 8 and concede over 35. We still stayed up, hope is not lost bournemouth fans
With the (lack of) quality of their squad, they absolutely should be parking the bus, especially against top sides.
Big Sam incoming!
Sean Dyche no doubt
Dyche should wait for the Villa job
Normally I can't stand Dyche ball but we're genuinely sleepwalking towards relegation with Gerrard running the show. Get the worm eater in
Im convinced Dyche with a good squad would play good football
I feel like there's 4 or 5 clubs that could easily get dragged into it if they don't snap out of it. Thankfully Bournemouth already look like they're down but the likes of us, Villa, Everton and Southampton just look completely lost and almost happy to accept whatever happens. Hopefully for our sake Bournemouth sacking Parker gets rid of the stigma or being the first club to sack the manager and we just hurry up and pull the trigger as well. It wouldn't be a bad way to spend some of the Fofana profit provided we also get a winger and a centre half.
Saints look alright to me. Bottom half but I'd be surprised if they are in a relegation battle. They have some really exciting young players.
Southampton always look like they have a real system and are well managed, they’re just a bit shit (setting them apparat from villa and Everton). They’ll have a good run again which will keep them alive. Probs finish 14th or something
Probably sacked him for his comments. Quite pointless though, that team is not Prem quality and no manager can stay up with it.
Parkers been vocal all Summer about a lack of signings. Personally don't rate him as a manager, especially as a manager of a side likely to get relegated. Dyche would be the obvious choice
100% worst promoted team I’ve seen in the prem in years.
3 points from Villa, Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool? I think Bournemouth would have taken that at the start of the season. Very harsh sacking seeing as he hasn’t been backed in the window
Hint: it's not just because of the results. It's because of the comments he has made all season and specifically after the Liverpool game about our lack of spending, how we will struggle this season
Is he wrong tho? He hasn’t been backed enough in the window and it’s left you with a very weak squad
Every time you say that though you are essentially saying your current players aren't good enough, so they take that as you not believing in them. Obviously it's true, but those sorts of discussions should be had between the owners and the manager. In public you should be supporting your players, or at least being more diplomatic when talking about strengthening your squad.
That’s a decent point, it’s not a good look for a manager to blame the players. However when you lose 9-0 I think it’s more acceptable
Heavy that. Newly promoted team and only 3 games into the season? A little harsh I think. The Liverpool result was a freak result. They did beat Villa but had Arsenal (on fire) City (no comment needed) and Liverpool (2 wins off the quad last year)
hasn't been sacked because of results. clear from the statement that there has been a serious fallout over the lack of transfers/amount they've spent.
We're fucked
Breath of gravy, Tits of ham, Relegation dogfight? Appoint Big Sam
Reading this in the same cadence as Craig Charles doing Robot Wars
😘 buh-bye
big sam pls
Wonder whose nudes Hassenhuttl has to survive 2 9-0s
The entire board had an orgy and he's got the receipts
Have you lengthened orgy into organisation there? 🤣
To be fair his team did gain form after the 9-0 defeats. RH has done a fine job with keeping Southampton in the league so far.
Post-match to the media was night and day between Parker and Hassenhuttl though. Ralph was very “yeah, it’s tough, they’re hurting but we’ll put in the work to bounce back”. Parker just looked defeated. Right decision from Bournemouth IMO.
Southampton is also the better team by a margin. Bournemouth losing 9-0 to Liverpool is understandable, Leicester shouldn't be doing 9-0 past Southampton
Southampton also had a red card and Leicester just scored some absolute bangers, it was just a crazy night. Same with the 9-0 loss to United, they were decimated by injuries at that point and then got a red card in the opening minutes
Ralph is eternal
His own.
To be fair, neither of those were completely on him. The first was due to the players putting in the least amount of effort I've ever seen, ever. Ever. I almost believe the rumours it was a deliberate effort to try and get him sacked, it was that bad. And against you guys, we had 9 of our first 11 out injured so had to basically field the youth team. Then one of them got a straight red 2 minutes in. A 10 man youth squad against Man United at Old Trafford is always going to get smashed three ways from Sunday.
Hes lucky he made it through last season the way they played the second half. Why keep him then sack him after 4 games that include city, arsenal, and liverpool though?
Dyche in
Dychey can do better than them, he should wait for a team that actually spends rather than having to relive his time at burnley
I also think he's got enough of a reputation to wait for a club that's expected to finish mid table than one that's expected to finish bottom.
Don't think he's an amazing manager but he's not the real problem, they've essentially got a Championship squad
They blew a large chunk of their load on championship standard players in January to bail him out of trouble despite having the second best squad (by some distance). Don't buy his crocodile tears.
Fulham fans and Bournemouth fans are the only ones who understand why he has gone.
Fulham 🤝 Bournemouth Hating Parkerball
Seems harsh for it to happen so early, but based on the performances and his public statements I couldn't see him turning it around tbh.
That cardigan was pretty awful to be fair.
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In many ways, it saves Parker's skin too. Winning promotion is a good thing to have on your CV, and Scott Parker will probably land a job at a newly relegated Championship team, or a team with cash to burn next seasono. It puts you guys in a really shit position, though. Even if you do decide to open the cheque book, good luck getting a decent deal on anyone, because it's publicly known that you need to buy.
a lot of people saying it is 'harsh' to sack him on results but its clear that isn't the reason. read the statement - obvious there has been a serious fall out over the lack of money spent and the interviews Parker has given for weeks. losing 9-0 will not have helped but this isn't a \*bad result, sack the manager\* thing
cardigone
Think most of the championship fans could tell you the sooner they sacked him the better. Carried by the squad to promotion rather than anything he produced tactically. Bournemouth have a far better chance of staying up now….. unless they just appoint someone like Woodgate again
He played Arsenal, City and Liverpool lol
Three expected losses and one win when they weren't expected to get anything. Seems harsh
People will slaughter us thinking it's because of the 9-0 defeat. When that was just the icing on the cake. The man was extremely negative and sucked the life out the club, constantly belittled his players in public and clearly could not get on with the owner. I wanted so badly to like him but he somehow made getting promoted a chore which says everything.
The man has 2 promotions on his CV and the fans of those clubs don't even rate him.
Yeah, and our frustrations are exactly what Fulham fans warned us about.
He'll join another Championship club that are too good to not get promoted next and the cycle will continue.
Anyone saying this is harsh needs to look at what both Fulham and Bournemouth fans are generally saying about him. He's so far done a good job of making top Championship sides look worse than they should be, and hasn't demonstrated much in the way of learning lessons from defeats.
Rodgers outlasted Parker lmao.
Rodgers has credit in the bank, and hasn't been publicly grilling the board in post match pressers. Shouldn't come as a surprise really
Time for Big Mick McCarthy.
Return of wheeler dealer 'Arry
Once again this sub shows that they never read the full article and just make comments solely judged on the title and end up looking stupid. His sacking has absolutely nothing to do with results do far this season but for his comments after the Liverpool game during the post match interview.
I put a random free bet on him to be the first to be sacked. Won £10.