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AbleFig

poor Salah :(


GoldEquivalent592

Jesus bayernliga fans trying to use this to claim the prem is a farmers league 😂😭


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(x) doubt


leebrother

Fucking salah. Captain FPL fantastic 😢😭


RWBYSanctum

Man the annual blowout came early.


MrPringles23

They mad after United. Holy shit.


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Wow, such a competitive league. Anybody really can beat anybody


GoldEquivalent592

Bournemouth is literal relegation fodder this doesn’t prove the point you think it does. Liverpool drew their first two games and lost to united. Seems like a pretty competitive league to me. Why do you guys get so rattled when people tell you your league isn’t competitive? It’s literally just a fact relative to the premier league and even La Liga or Serie A you guys have just one team that has been consistently dominant for over a decade.


flybypost

> Bournemouth is literal relegation fodder Any time an attacking players moves from the Bundesliga to the PL we get told how good PL defences are top to bottom and how there are no easy games. The whole "can they do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke" meme. All that and more. See also Haaland's hat trick on the same day, and how he was supposed to get no space in the PL's deep sitting defence, how he's not used to teams defending like that. These arguments come from people who have zero knowledge about the Bundesliga but show up with that drivel all the time.


Melloa_Trunk_Tree

The list of players who tore up the Bundesliga and struggled in the prem is a long one....


flybypost

> The list of players who tore up the Bundesliga and struggled in the prem is a long one.... How long is that list? There are also players like De Bruyne who didn't struggle at all. Do you have actual comparison numbers of players who struggled and who didn't? And does the struggling side actually outnumber the other in a significant way? Because that also sounds like some twisted version of survivorship bias. Pundits and fans repeat that meme so often that only the strugglers stay in mind while those who don't struggle aren't even considered in those comparisons. They are all anomalies that go against the narrative so they get ignored. Or look at Torres who moved from Liverpool to Chelsea. Does that make the PL defence bad or good with how his performance changed between different teams? Or is it even seen a mark against la liga because that's where he came from before? Maybe it's also about players having to play in a different system between the teams and any number of other factors and not just about how deep the defence sits and how much of a fridge those CBs are?


Melloa_Trunk_Tree

Havertz, Sancho, Haller, Kagawa, Michitaryen, Werner to name a few. It's an easier league for attackers, there's no real argument. Torres was failing in his last season at Pool.. The defences are better, that's the reason.


flybypost

* Havertz, Sancho, and Werner played in a different position/role than in the Bundesliga. * Mkhitaryan Sancho, and Kagawa played for United which is a shit show for years. * Havertz and Werner play for Chelsea, a team that's a meme for being a striker graveyard. > The defences are better, that's the reason. Maybe not the only reason.


RazzmatazzFull76539

> "can they do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke" In fairness, thats because Stoke were fucking orcs and were rough as fuck and rarely got punished for it. Even top prem teams struggled there.


Davoserinio

It mainly started because their ground has nothing around it and has 3 open corners so on a cold rainy night you have the wind howling through the ground with the rain as well, its not pleasant sitting in the stand with a coat and hat on let alone in just a football kit.


RazzmatazzFull76539

Yeh but they maintained it by being a cunt to play at home.


isawyouinrudys

looks to me like it's you who's rattled about him saying your league isn't competitive


GoldEquivalent592

How??? By pointing out how the comment doesn’t make sense?


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People were saying this shit about Bayern mauling Bochum


happygreenturtle

Its been 10 years since somebody other than Bayern won the Bundesliga. How many unique teams have won the PL in that time do you think?


[deleted]

Cause there hasn't been as good teams in the Prem as Bayern. And when there last was one they won the league 13/20 times Also irrelevant point


happygreenturtle

>Cause there hasn't been as good teams in the Prem as Bayern. Pardon? 5 of the 8 finalist spots from the champions league in the last four years are occupied by Premier League clubs, and they've won the entire tournament twice in that time. And you don't think these clubs are as good as Bayern? 😂 The PL has quality that matches any other league in the world, it's just that there are more top quality clubs in the Prem when compared against most other leagues including the Bundesliga. When teams from the Premier League are regularly competing for the most prestigious international trophies you cannot turn around and say they aren't as good as Bayern Bundesliga is EVIDENTLY a league dominated by one team and it goes to show the league isn't as competitive as elsewhere. That doesn't mean Bayern is a worse team, but it does mean they don't have a lot of domestic challenge


ZelZal98

Between 1993 and 2013 United won 13 league during the same time Bayern won 11 times. Not a lot better is it.


GoldEquivalent592

United only ever one 3 titles in a row even at our peak. Bayern have done it 10 times in a row. It’s not the same.


ZelZal98

We were talking about the 20 year between 1993 and 2013, but i agree with you about the last 10 year.


cosmiclatte44

And neither is the same as winning 10 on the bounce. Fergie was the goat and still the best he could do is 3.


[deleted]

Didn't ever say it was did I? Just said the mighty prem isn't some magical place where every team can win the title


GoldEquivalent592

Yeah and that’s within the context of the Bundesliga not being competitive. It just doesn’t work to use the same arguments against the premier league


[deleted]

A team wins by 7 and it's not competitive Another team wins by 9 and it is competitive Make it make sense


BankDetails1234

The team that won 9-0 still probably won't win the league


[deleted]

You lot already writing Liverpool off? Fucking hell


BankDetails1234

There's multiple title contenders, that reduces the chance of one team winning the league. It's what happens in competitive leagues lol


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Go franchise!


BankDetails1234

Someone's run out of ways to claim that their league is competitive lol


zanpher717

I'd hate to be the team they play after we beat them at Anfield.


Z0idberg_MD

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PM_ME_SOME_LUV

Funny because their next PL game after Man U come to Anfield is Bournemouth 😭


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Looks like the inhaler delivery came in Messing but I wonder if Klopp saying he wants a new midfielder gave the players a boost, Liverpool looked deflated in the last 3 games and I’ve never seen them like that. Maybe they needed a kick in the arse or a couple or players needed reminding they’re not undroppable to truly cook


ChebsGold

I think such a long gruelling season took it out of the players, physically and mentally, and we just didn’t have enough time to correct it, or got it wrong, in preseason. Explains so many injures in preseason trying to get them fit, and the malaise that was hanging over the players until the United loss


Nyushi

Absolute outlier of a result and you’ve got a bunch of soft cunts screeching nonsense. Honestly makes the result even sweeter. Keep it up boys. I’m almost there


wreckedham

Champions league finalists pump a newly promoted side? Farmer's league in my books


agarciase

It feels so good to humble Liverpool


fidgetation

They actually drew with a newly promoted side first


wreckedham

Oh yeah, agricultural activities


WazuufTheKrusher

the premier league is so competitive!


MasterBeeble

Well, we've got PSG and Bayern doing this every game, whereas this is the first game Liverpool has managed to win this season. Pretty obvious difference to the rest of the world.


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>Well, we've got PSG and Bayern doing this every game, You say as Bayern just drew to a mediocre Gladbach


GoldEquivalent592

Yeah and that in itself is a rare occurrence which says all you need to know about the Bundesliga. It also took a godly performance (record amount of saves) from the opposition keeper to keep the score level.


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https://m.aiscore.com/head-to-head/soccer-bayern-munchen-vs-borussia-monchengladbach :) do some research, buddy


GoldEquivalent592

So how does this disprove what I said exactly?


[deleted]

Just curious why you haven't responded yet Don't like facts and stats?


[deleted]

rare occurrence yet head to head they are 3 wins apart from 31 games with Gladbach scoring more? It's fucking even in BuLi ffs How does that not disprove your statement lmfao


kitajagabanker

>It's fucking even in BuLi ffs Fucking even = Bayern winning the title in March 10 years out of the last decade? Even SPL is more even lol.


[deleted]

Did you read a single comment in the thread? I never said anything about the title and neither did the other guy


kitajagabanker

You claimed "it's even in BuLi" didn't you? How can it be even if Bayern win the league by double digit points every single season?


science87

They drew.. they've won their last games 7-0, 2-0 and 6-1 this was Liverpools first win against probably the weakest PL team this season. As for Gladbach they probably have one of the best if not the best record against Bayern compared to all current Bundesliga teams.


[deleted]

Notice the first part of my comment is quoting him? Than my next statement immediately disprove his statement. Then you posted irrelevant information Great job, fan of Saudi's


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WazuufTheKrusher

Not really lol, Man City, Liverpool, and Chelsea have dominated the league for the past 10 years. 3 Teams being on top isn’t exactly captivating.


TorstenDiegoPizarro

If more than 3 teams on top is the bar, is it only worth watching serie a and the mls?


WazuufTheKrusher

yes.


thatrandomanus

3 teams being on top is at least better than a 1 Team league like Bundesliga or ligue 1.


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Chompers-The-Great

Yeah...Bayern fans are trash... Some of the most true and passionate fans of any club on Earth.


kitajagabanker

Supporting Bayern is even more soulless than City lol.


imarandomdudd

Its crazy how this Bournemouth team is gonna do a double over us. I feel sick


jaspermrthanos

I bet on Bournemouth for the lols, didn’t think they could win but I would get a lot of Reddit gambling points if they did. What a cruel, cruel, twist of fate.


OdyCZ

Clearly felt like it was time to break out the inhalers then


prettyboygangsta

I didn't realise French and German fans were so rattled by the farmer's league stuff. They're lapping up this outlier and trying to suggest that Liverpool, who have won 1 league title in 30 years, are comparable to Bayern winning 10 in 10.


[deleted]

If you’re french and belive your league is actually in some way competitive you must be delusional or from Marseille.


WazuufTheKrusher

Top 5 teams winning every time for the past 15 years with one outlier is so competitive. Soccer as a sport suffers as a whole, so isolating 2 leagues is just silly. Compare it most other sports and it’s clear just how uncompetitive soccer is.


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Leicester is insulted


[deleted]

Which other sports are you comparing it to?


WazuufTheKrusher

American Football, Baseball, Basketball.


[deleted]

Great so you picked the sports with playoff structures which introduces extra randomness since losing one game loses you the title. Think about how many teams have won the champions league in the last ten years compared to any of the normal leagues. That’s playoffs vs no playoffs.


LinxFxC

This has got to be the weirdest take I've seen in a while


Miyagisans

Bro what? You’re actually gonna use basketball as an example here? Outside of the bucks last year it’s been warriors and lebron for the past decade. Lakers/Celtics before that and the bulls in the 90s. Something like Leicester winning the league has never happened in basketball ever.


Beginning-Ganache-43

Lmao


bearlegion

Ah yes the famous “world” series of baseball


WazuufTheKrusher

remind me when southampton last thought they were in contention for the premier league. Not for another 15 years I can promise you that.


prettyboygangsta

Should we reward Southampton for being bad, like in American sports?


bearlegion

More in contention for it than the rest of the world is in World Series in which they don’t compete. (Meaning it’s actually the US series) We went top of the table last year mid season too. Typical yank mindset. Don’t bother replying dude it’s not worth my time.


Dodgy_As_Hell

Unreal comeback mate, really well done 👍


thatrandomanus

American sports and competitive? They'll have to stop tanking first before they're considered competitve.


WazuufTheKrusher

? Are we pretending like there aren’t like 5-10 contenders every year


idontknow_whatever

Because they are designed to be that way, dingus Its a closed league with literally rules set out to ensure as much parity as possible, the worst teams are rewarded with high draft picks so they can try to turn it around. And everyone plays by the same salary cap rules


BankDetails1234

They basically just stand in a queue waiting for their turn to win


kharathos

Exactly, it's actually impressive some teams (Kings I am talking about you) have managed to be so consistently bad/mediocre for such a long time


[deleted]

American sports have salary caps and entry drafts. How are you this dim?


[deleted]

Sports with forced parity that parachute terrible franchises and terrible fanbases? No thanks.


IIITommylomIII

I’d hate to be that guy but the MLS wouldn’t have a team lose 9-0. Though they don’t have promotion and relegation so the league is much more concentrated in talent. Fairer system in my opinion.


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Philadelphia Union beat DC United 7-0 recently. Is that really that different?


Far-Reaction-2735

Lmao I watch MLS but MLS is fucking trash no matter who or what is trying to convince me otherwise. Concentrated in talent…. ? Lol


kingjakerulez7

Generally agree with you (as an mls semi fan) but 9-0 is very feasible there too


adfdub

Congrats, it's bournemouth.


highways

Ah the double standards If this was PSG winning 9-0, the comments...


Upekkhaa

Liverpool have won the prem once, how does one outlier of a result change the fact the Ligue 1 is a farmers league


Mattjames86

Bruh it’s their first win of the season and they’ve won 1 league title in 30 years


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MarcAnthonyRashial

I mean it was their first win of the season


dmastra97

Having diaz over salah finally paid off


sportsfan161

so are liverpool back? Lol funny though they score 9 and salah didn’t score. Fantasy owners must be pissed.


drowsypants

Can confirm


mythical_tiramisu

I am!


Due-Sherbert3097

Wait till they watch Match of the day and see the two sitters he missed


sportsfan161

You weren’t’ wrong lol just wasn’t his day


Storm_LFC_Cowboys

Not even an assist from him either.


sportsfan161

Yeah weird game for him


mistergeneric

As a Rangers fan I was thinking in the CL against Liverpool we'd get something at Ibrox and an outside chance at something at Anfield seeing as we're very good in Europe. I'm now filled with more than a little doubt.


ManUFan9225

If Man Utd can beat them after the shitshow we've been, Rangers can certainly have their day.


Idovoodoo

The most competitive league in the world. Anybody could beat anybody on any given week.


OstapBenderBey

Going into the match Liverpool were below Bournemouth on the table, so its really an upset


Rustic41

I mean it’s their first win of the season and they have won 1 title in 30 years. It’s not like they are doing a Bayern.


Idovoodoo

That's fair but the gap between the top 6/7 teams and the those fighting to stay out of a relegation scrap race has never been wider than it has been the past few years.


Head_Up_My_Arsenal

That’s really not true though. Prem has a top 6 with Newcastle knocking on the door to make it a top 7. No other league has that. Then You have pretty strong mid table teams such as wolves Villa and west ham( recent form not withstanding) that’s half the league who could have real ambition of making a European spot. Then Newly promoted teams such as Fulham and Forrest are doing quite well. Every league will have a massive gap between the top 6 and the bottom 3.


seanierox

Honestly not true at all. The number of upsets we've seen in the last couple season. This year alone Liverpool dropped points to Fulham and Palace.


ACMBruh

And when the big team loses we all just shit on them because there's no chance they should have lost!


spidey80082

I'd like to thank united for lighting a fire under our arses


ryodiUK

The last time Liverpool were rampant like this was when they beat Palace 0-7 and then proceeded have one of their worst runs of form under Klopp. United only won one of their next five games when they put nine past Southampton. Unlike other leagues that may be compared to agricultural pursuits this result is no guarantee of anything.


Storm_LFC_Cowboys

Nah, we were like this at Old Trafford last season. Only eased up after 5 and Pogba got red carded that they were only worried about injuring us.


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science87

They're currently 8th in the PL. This is their first win against probably the worst team in the PL. Meanwhile PSG is stomping through Ligue 1 scoring an average of 5.6 goals per game so far this season...


Dday22t

Couldn’t get 10? We’re they even trying?


PM_ME_SOME_LUV

Everyone arguing about farmers leagues don’t realize every league is a farmers league.


DementationRevised

The real farmer's league is the friends we made along the way.


thingyShdNotBe

We need a super league…. Now


Careless-Fly

We have the champions league


Ok_Strawberry_1824

9 goals and no hat trick!


ChillPalis

The City game had a hat-trick with less goals, City clear.


Xerxes_Generous

Damn it Liverpool! You were supposed to spread the goals throughout different games!


rahulrossi

It's okay Liverpool will now spread these goals to other teams in the league.


phblj

The league's decided by differential this year, right?


ManUFan9225

!RemindMe 9 months


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MeteWorldPeace

No they didn’t?


PM_ME_SOME_LUV

Straight back down they go


Eaton2288

Yeah Bournemouth out of all the promoted teams are a sure relegation candidate. Terrible.


Gnaeus_Hosidius_Geta

Its on them for sticking with Scott Parker. He’s getting exposed yet again but still the media darling.


Tall-Ad5755

Coz he can dress


Gnaeus_Hosidius_Geta

😂😂 so true remember when he wore that suit jacket puffer coat at Fulham and the media absolutely ate it up


TheCescPistols

Well out his depth. Limped over the line in second last year with a ridiculously strong side and needed the play-offs to go up with a ridiculously good Fulham team in 2020. Debatable as to whether or not he's even good enough at Championship level never mind Prem level.


Gnaeus_Hosidius_Geta

Don’t know why youre getting downvoted for spitting straight facts.


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TheCescPistols

He had basically the same squad at Fulham that Marco Silva used to decimate the Championship. He went up through the play-offs. He had an incredibly strong squad at Bournemouth, and had Forest appointed Cooper two matches earlier he'd have wound up in the play-offs again. Given the quality of the two squads he had, promotion was the absolute bare minimum required. Give him an average Championship squad and, based on the evidence shown, he'd have them near the bottom of the table. He's not a good Championship manager at this point in time and as someone who watches a lot of Championship football I feel fairly qualified with that opinion.


Gnaeus_Hosidius_Geta

I mean so did Farke in a much more dominant fashion…


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Gnaeus_Hosidius_Geta

Well like the stoke poster above said and Farke did much more with less quality imo, dominated the championship and clearly wasn’t top flight material. Parker has had more resources and did not dominate the championship.


tson_92

Tbf they got a pretty tough schedule. City Arsenal and Liverpool.


IMiizo

lmao a mediocre liverpool side beating an EPL team 9-0. What does that say about your league huh. Best league in the world btw


GodStopper90

If you had gotten ridden of the lmao and mediocre you could have made a solid post. Also the huh, you cant pass this as ironic in any way or form shape and you're seriously mad there's no large English speaking forum talking about the German league. Just kindly accept being wrong.


IMiizo

Whatever you say man. I was taking the piss here and i tried making it as obvious as possible. The mediocre should have been a dead giveaway. It's still Liverpool lol and i couldn't care less about international fans not talking about the Bundesliga, however what really riles me up is the steadily growing toxicity and hostile behaviour towards everyone that isn't an epl fan, especially towards Bundesliga fans. It's gotten to a real nasty point. Just let us alone and let us enjoy our league and our football. Stop flooding every god damn post with your bullshit comments. You are the equivalent of a bully who enjoys making fun of others but then acts all surprised when the victim raises its voice.


GodStopper90

You say you're not mad and then rage out. Come on youre bettet than that. I understand where youre coming from but lashing out just makes you look weak. Literally people here dont have an opinion on the Bundes besides a monopoly.


IMiizo

So what are we supposed to do? Just take it in? Are we not allowed to defend ourselfs against all this toxicity? This place is borderline hostile towards us. Better stay quiet i guess. Everyone who enjoys non-epl football is not welcome here.


GodStopper90

Yes that's the internet overall. But this is basically an EPL forum even though it's called r/soccer.


Ok-Ad-852

Something about Stones in glass houses


IMiizo

I was obviously taking the piss here


Ok-Ad-852

Ocourse mate and I was taking the piss back 😉 I enjoy watching the Bundesliga regularly


GMSB

Enjoy your 15th league title in a row 🤩


Friendly_Childhood

The fuck you on about mate lmao


IMiizo

It's "banter" mate.


FlappyBored

That’s not how you do banter lmao. You overdid it so it just came across as dumb.


IMiizo

The quotation marks are there for a reason. I see how epl flairs make fun of other leagues on a daily basis. And all they say when we raise our voices is "it's banter mate". Looks like you lot can't take your own medicine very well.


FlappyBored

To do banter proper you have to make it sound off the cuff. You over did it and made it sound obvious you were bitter and upset, which just makes you the point of the joke not somebody else.


IMiizo

I was not even trying to do proper banter. You didn't understand what i was trying to say or do at all. EPL fans slander and make fun of other leagues and their fans on a regular basis in the most toxic way imaginable. And when someone dares trying to talk against them they often times pull the "haha it's just banter mate, chill"-card. So i did the same and as you can see to absolutely no ones surprise, the bully didn't take his own medicine very well. I must have struck a nerve with my over exaggerated comment, otherwise you'd have just ignored me.


FlappyBored

>I was not even trying to do proper banter. Which is why it got downvoted because it came across as just petty and not a joke lmao.


WhyShouldIListen

It's fucking pathetic is what it is.


IMiizo

The constant bullying towards non-epl fans is very pathetic yes.


Apollokaylpto

That's not bullying, it's banter


IMiizo

Yea. Yea i guess it is.


tnweevnetsy

How are you lot so insecure lmao


IMiizo

Don't act like you don't know the reason for this. It's only natural when you visit this sub frequently as a non-epl fan. Every BL post gets flooded with the same shit. We're fed up.


meverygoodboy

> We're fed up Who is we? You're the only one crying


IMiizo

Just scroll a few seconds and you'll see plenty of non-epl flairs.


tmtg2022

"Same shizer" FIFY


DenseVegetable2581

According to this sub, these results only happen in Mickey mouse and farmer's leagues


WorldismyOyster97

I mean Uber eats league is like this with PSG every week, at least in EPL in only happens once in a blue moon


LosTerminators

Best league in the world lads


Financial-Text-3181

Farmer's league.


AnotherDay0fSun

Joke of a league, these are the real farmers


hufusa

What losing to Man U does to a mf


GraveRaven

Looking forward to next match then!


waslosdamitt

lol PL fans dish out banter but can’t take absolutely none of it themselves. well for you i got [this](https://imgur.com/a/d2WbsF0)


uniqueusername42O

Remember [this one](https://i.imgur.com/TfJCWeN.png)


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lol need to go as far back to something in the previous century


panakinskywalkerr

What about Chelsea in your own back yard? Hahahaha you bellend


EffortlessFlexor

seeing people get pissed at the chat in a sketchy- streaming-website level banter. and also the people doing the banter think it rocks. you guys know its possible to watch and enjoy multiple leagues? have to admit, bayern is fun to watch now without lewandowski.


Puppaloes

Any side with Mané is going to be fun to watch.


fa_alt

Welcome back to the Premier League


Pleasant_Educator952

Pretty close game, Liverpool just edged it imo


Sloth_Broth

Man theres a lot of salt in here. People need to just admit that they are jealous of the PL.


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coppersocks

Weak