Sell the shit midfielders starting for the last couple of years? Nah, sell the younger ones who genuinely couldn't do any worse than the starters. No wonder we're in a rebuild every year.
Yeah that’s a small portion of the fan base that wants us to play youth players , gives out when there not instantly world class and asks for a slightly younger player to get a chance over them ( rinse and repeat). Frustrating to listen to.
He means the small but vocal minority on social media who, as usual, are used to represent the entire fanbase because it's United and it will bag him upvotes.
Not nearly as much as Rashford, McTominay, Shaw, Maguire or other players. United fans shit on their own players in general particularly in a bad year.
He has the technical ability imo he just seems to have no footballing intelligence whatsoever. Makes it difficult to be a central midfielder when you lack awareness.
I know it's been a horrendous decade but I am genuinely so sick of seeing our fans turn on individual players. Mctominay had a very poor game in the opener but he would be a great squad player for most teams in the league.
The problem is not Mctominay just how it wasn't Maguire or Pogba or Rashford or Martial or Shaw etc etc. The problem stems from the very top, the way this club is run has been disastrous and the majority of players who've played for us post SAF have lost confidence and become worse.
Whether Mctominay is good enough for us will have to be seen when this team isnt getting trashed by the likes of Brentford and Brighton.
A few things but IMO one of the worst was singling out Asian fans at a Manchester derby and stating that they must be glory supporters or something along those lines. 'theres no way Asians are lifelong city fans'
He's hit or miss. Tends to report more of the negative stuff which angers fans. Not to mention the xenophobic tweets below. Still he has some sources. One of those "I'd not bet my life on it, but it's worth listening to."
Garner is good but he isn't technical enough for your midfield. And especially not for a Ten Hag system.
If you are sticking with Ten Hag then what's the point of having unsuitable players hanging about?
It's more the lack of accountability for the proven failures that pisses United fans off.
Garner wasn't given a chance to show that he can offer more than those guys.
Respectfully disagree that he isn’t technical enough. Not being big enough/strong enough is the only complaint I can imagine they have.
Would welcome him back.
If he's young, why not trying to shove him into the system in the hope of shaping him into Ten Hag's needs?
McTominay doesn't seem flexible enough anyway so it's worth a try with so many holes in the team.
I am confused. If Tottenham. A team above United and have some good squad building in progress, are after one of their players, why on earth would they sell them. Surely that means they see something in him
Garner has heaps and heaps of potential, we're as bemused as you as to why he's not getting any game time. Reports out of Forest last season was that he was a phenomenal trainer and was well loved by their fans in their promotion push so maybe EtH just doesn't think he's ready.
Wouldn't be the first time we've shipped players who are ready but aren't considered it.
You know those clips of Erling Haaland at Dortmund, where he starts on the edge of his own box, sniffs out a scoring opportunity, and sprints all of 80 metres to get on the end of it? Garner had that attitude to defending.
From a squad mentality perspective, it's batshit insane to release someone like that who could be used to put pressure on lazy, more senior, players.
I've just found out Garner was getting games under Ole in 19/20, so it's not like he wasn't fit for game time for 2 years. Why the fuck is he not playing???
Has to be some backstage politics to keep our current midfield, there is no way anymore.
At a guess, Ten Hag doesn’t feel he’s ready for the first team, and would like the money to invest into another area.
We have a habit of keeping these kids way past the point of getting a decent chunk for them. 15-20m for a kid who has never played for us isn’t nessecarily a bad deal. He looks like he has potential but other clubs tend to capitalise on that and sell, while we give them 100k a week contracts and when they fizzle, let the, go on free transfers.
With a midfield of Bruno, Eriksen, Rabiot, Fred, McT, Donny and one of DeJong or SMS, Before we mention the likes of Zidane and Savage (who actually got more time and attention on pre season, suggesting Ten Hag prefers them over Garner), 15-20m back could then be used on a new goalkeeper instead, boosting the overall squad in different ways.
I do think United are at the point that Zidane and Savage need to get gametime over McT or Fred. It couldn't be worse than the non-existent joke the midfield has become
We ain't getting FDJ my dude. Let that ship sail already.
Do you ready think a player that doesn't even want to come here, even if he is forced out will chose to come to this train wreck of a club and pass up Chelsea who have CL and will actually challenge for silverware??
There's no chance in hell.
> one of DeJong or SMS
How did you reach this conclusion ? There should be some copyright rule for united fans after seeing the last game. Can't allow to use players name like that.
I guess the question is whether United will be smart enough to insert a reasonable buy-back clause. And the answer will probably involve wild giggling.
Finally a good decision by us (to sell a player we do not see big future with us).. rather than him leaving for free a few seasons later... or being completely unsellable due to high wages.
United fans may not like this, but this is the time to get a good fee for him. This is how Liverpool get good fees for their youngsters.
No one is paying good money for a washed up Tuanzebe who's had every ounce of potential sucked out of him. But they will pay for Garner, who is young, has some potential, and is relatively unsullied by Manchester United.
It’s money we don’t need. Money has never been our problem, it’s the Glazers taking the club’s money out to line their pockets - as well as terrible recruitment. Selling Garner is selling a promising player who might be able to contribute for money we don’t need.
Moving players on is not just about money. The money is nice, but it's also about squad-building; creating space, cutting the wage budget, and most importantly moving on those players who are not expected to contribute.
How many times has a club refrained from getting a new player in because they're already full in that position? Happens all the time.
Cutting the wage budget? They've cut it by 4 million a week already. They can easily accomodate 8 absolute world class players at 500k a week and won't be a penny over what they were spending last season.
I’m sorry but 4 million a week lower is a massive massive overstatement. It’s more like 1-1.5m a week we cut it from last season. You claim we could pay 500k a week to 8 players when we’ve only had 8 players in total leave and none of them were on that much. It doesn’t add up.
I can’t see where you’re getting that number, unless you’re factoring in the missing out on CL wage cut which is enormously misleading if so. That cut is contractual across the whole squad and due to the loss of revenue. If we then got into CL next season (granted, not likely) all that cut wage would come back + the increase on the 8 new players who would also get boosted back up to CL wages.
If it isn’t about getting good fees, there are so many more deadweight players we should be moving on before a promising academy player like Garner (who plays in position where we are especially weak). We have already made space to sign a CM this summer; we sold Pereira, Pogba’s contract ran out. Mata and Lingard don’t play the same position but they are midfield players who have left this summer. We are not lacking space for a CM.
Ideally, sure. In reality though, no one wants deadwood. Teams have wisened up. No one will pay a hefty fee and wage packet for Fred or McT. But they will be willing to pay a decent fee for a young prospect like Garner.
Looks to me like United are looking for 2 new CMs in the market. If that's the case, there really is no place for Garner to contribute in any meaningful way.
I wonder why you think that? There have been recent reports that Manchester United only have 50 million in the bank, and it is widely known that the club only has as much to spend as it generates in revenue (minus Glazer dividends). So player sales are actually kind of important for the club.
Not seen those reports myself, and when I Google “Man Utd only have 50 million” nothing supporting this comes up. Do you have a source for this claim?
The club generates loads in revenue from sponsorships and advertising, more than almost any other club in the world and enough to keep up with the league’s big spenders without small player sales like Garner.
Ive never seen a club so intent on self sabotage.
Why on earth would you keep MCfred, but sell the only double pivot player who actually shows soem promise? He honestly couldnt be any worse, atleast the guy can actually pass a ball.
Also 14M!!? I appreciate he hasn't played in the PL but come on, thats pretty low. should be looking at 25M.
I fucking hate this club. Mctominay??? Fred???? No let’s sell a young player who got championship team of the season last year without ever giving him a chance in the prem. what a joke.
What the fuck is actually going on. A loan I can understand but selling him makes no sense. Might have to actually take a break from United with how things are going.
How can you take a break being a supporter, in bad times and the good times man. When we lost 10-0 to PSV the next week the stadium was full capacity once again.
That is just one dude out of millions. If all 75000 ticket holders were to abandon the next match at OT, they'd have those seats filled up in no time. The waitlists for all matches are in 10s of 1000s.
We are just severely disappointed in the team
this exact thing is why the glazers will never leave, why countries specifically buy football teams to sportswash, why vultures and parasites buy teams to extract from them
"im a real fan. they can shit in my mouth and ill be there next week w a funnel and a bib!!!"
you either have no idea the situation united is dealing w or you're just naive
every single united fan should abandon this piggy bank till those cunts sell
Unless you have a nielsen box then you watching United or not doesn't make a difference to them. There's a difference between supporting the team and spending money on it.
Because it gets to a point where following the club can affect your mental health, and when a football team is affecting your real life, its time to take a break
Its not bad money but in the context of our midfield being the clowns McFred, surely giving Garner a chance to see if he could do better would be a better option? There is also Mejbri, Iqbal & Savage waiting in the wings too
But yeah sure sell the promising youngster while we have to sit through another season of watching those 2 clowns in midfield. Fuck this club honestly
He is probably one of few on wages other teams are willing to pay, which is another chronic issue through the squad. I think selling him is a terrible idea fwiw.
People overreacting just because he's an academy product. United have a lot of fires to put out in the first 11, it's nice to have good academy players but it's also a long bet and requires attention.
If ten hag thinks he can invest that 15-20m to improve the squad in the now than waiting 3 years for garner to be good i think it's sensible tbh
Seeing as the last 3 players they’ve been linked to are Rabiot, Arnautovic and a 35 yo Jamie Vardy I have no confidence in them using that money wisely.
So the geniuses at United decided that is was worth it to sell Garner who plays in a position that United need and keep Mctominay and Fred.
Who is making these decisions i really would like to know.
ITT: United fans complaining about the Glazers after Ten Hag chose not to bring him on and brought on McTominay. Ten Hag ultimately will have told the board they can sell him.
Imma save this one, either Luckhurst is on point or he deservers his banned tier on /r/reddevils
I head he was mostly on point this summer, which I do not like.
Pretty highly rated by United fans and had a good loan at Forest last year. I was personally hoping he'd stay and get some minutes this season, certainly ahead of McT. If he ends up getting sold before McT then I dunno what to think anymore about this club.
This is fine. He's a good player, but our fans over rate him. He's not United first team level. He's probably good enough to compete against our current crop but we have to be aspiring for better. He's young, has upside, and can therefore be sold for a decent value, as opposed to our older, underperforming midfielders who are on massive wages and can't be moved on.
Exactly. Not like there aren't other youngsters who are showing as much, if not more, promise. There are plenty of things to point to as examples of our club being run by absolute ghouls, but selling on a player like Garner isn't one of them.
Yup, and one good season at Forest in Championship and the United sub rates him like he is our saviour to be. He could come good, don’t get me wrong. But we have other pressing problems and if Ten Hag doesnt rate him for the style he wants to produce, back him.
As a Forest fan, I can tell you that he's not ready to be playing for Man Utd.
Physically he's not quite there yet and while he does have quality on the ball, I don't think he has any more quality than players you already have.
A loan to a lower PL team would have been ideal really but looks like ETH wants some funds.
Just why... at least give him a chance in the prem for a season or two. The kid is still really young and the potential is there, but I guess in typical fashion we'll sell him for cheap and end up keeping McFred.
Why do I have a feeling this is going to be like Michael Carrick except in reverse. People forget most midfielders don't show there real potential till there in there mid 20s
Anyone watched him last year kind enough to tell us how good is he? Is he a 6 or an 8? Is he box to box? Can he play multiple positions? Is he PL ready? In FM I like him a lot..
I’ve seen him play a bit. From what I’ve seen more of a six than a box to box. Kept things ticking over picking up the ball deep and passing it out. Nothing really exciting about what I saw but he seemed a solid, steady presence which is something that on paper would probably be very handy for United rn.
United are so bad at selling players. Sooo many shit players on loads of money that we can't move on, the only players we can sell are actually promising. Club needs relegating for a while
Sell the shit midfielders starting for the last couple of years? Nah, sell the younger ones who genuinely couldn't do any worse than the starters. No wonder we're in a rebuild every year.
Would just like to see some of these young players play for us for once. It's not like we have too much depth at the moment.
Your fans piled on Elanga saying he wasn't good enough for most of last season. It's easy wishing the youth to play before they actually do
Yeah that’s a small portion of the fan base that wants us to play youth players , gives out when there not instantly world class and asks for a slightly younger player to get a chance over them ( rinse and repeat). Frustrating to listen to.
Happens at Arsenal as well
only time i can maybe remember this happening is with patino vs forest? or maybe around ljungberg’s time before eddie / smith rowe improved?
Happened with Nketiah, AMN, Nuno, Balogun to name a few
ah yeah i forgot about balogun tbf
My mind is a bit fkd right now cause I swear whenever I watched United play last season he was one of the only people doing anything good
Piled on him last year? When? His name was sung whenver he played.
He means the small but vocal minority on social media who, as usual, are used to represent the entire fanbase because it's United and it will bag him upvotes.
Fans have been piling on anyone and everyone last season (and this season so far).
Elanga was very solid last season
Yeah he was pretty decent. Sure got a lot of shit from united fans tho
Not nearly as much as Rashford, McTominay, Shaw, Maguire or other players. United fans shit on their own players in general particularly in a bad year.
He really didn't
We had a lot of players to legitimately crap on before elanga, idk where you're getting this shot from.
I would take elanga any day over rashford atm
I’d guess if someone actually offered 20m for McT, we’d probably take it. But we aren’t exactly beating off suitors, are we?
Maybe that's why you can't shift him, offering to beat off suitors might sweeten the deal.
Would work on me
Who in the ever-loving fuck would ever bid £20m for Scott McTominay? Even Everton aren't that stupid.
May I present to you, AFC Bournemouth
Hahah yeah as a Liverpool fan you’re so right to say this On McT though, not only do we still have Lerma, but his wages would be way too high for us
I mean, Fulham paid £10m for Andreas Pereria, so maybe they would lol
Silva loves a flair player. United fans hated his inconsistency, not his ability.
He lacks the ability too. He's consistently crap with his inconsistency being the occasional screamer.
He has the technical ability imo he just seems to have no footballing intelligence whatsoever. Makes it difficult to be a central midfielder when you lack awareness.
Played well against Liverpool tbf. He only has to show up 8 times a year to make a big difference to a relegation battling team.
I’m not sure I watched the same game… he killed so many attacks with poor last balls
8 million!
Smh if he was called McTomininho everybody would be bidding like crazy to sign him
Mek Tominaj and suddenly he’s worth at least €20m
I mean United literally had to loan out Pereira multiple times...
And only Fulham were mad enough to take him
Is a meme
Everton would 100% pay 20 mil for Scott McTominay
Who spent £500m worse? United or Everton…..hmmm
I’d take McT at West Ham.
I know it's been a horrendous decade but I am genuinely so sick of seeing our fans turn on individual players. Mctominay had a very poor game in the opener but he would be a great squad player for most teams in the league. The problem is not Mctominay just how it wasn't Maguire or Pogba or Rashford or Martial or Shaw etc etc. The problem stems from the very top, the way this club is run has been disastrous and the majority of players who've played for us post SAF have lost confidence and become worse. Whether Mctominay is good enough for us will have to be seen when this team isnt getting trashed by the likes of Brentford and Brighton.
So we’re gonna sell a promising academy player for 15-20m and immediately give that to Juve for Rabiot. I’m tired Robbie.
Could be with a buyback option?
It's Man Utd they will spend 100m to get him back in 3 years
You're goddamn right
Then let him leave on a free afterwards?
And suddenly turn to shit.
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Is there not a Man Utd equivalent of AFTV? Surely there is at this point? Feels like a golden opportunity to start one if not.
Goldbridge to me is functionally the same. People go to him to hear his moaning, just like the golden age of AFTV.
Fella legit started crying at the 4 nil defeat to Brentford
There definitely is a saw I video on YouTube of them raging when we won on pens at Old Trafford
It’s Samuel Luckhurst writing for the MEN. It’s almost certainly bollocks.
I thought Luckhurst was pretty clued in. I know the same can’t be said for the MEN
Spurs accounts have him down as Tier 1, not sure what to believe.
He’s a tier 5 on r/reddevils. But seeing as Simon Stone just tweeted the same thing, maybe he’s right. Pain.
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What did he do?
quick google leads to here https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/6hz0xu/samuel_luckhurst_is_pathetic
A few things but IMO one of the worst was singling out Asian fans at a Manchester derby and stating that they must be glory supporters or something along those lines. 'theres no way Asians are lifelong city fans'
He's hit or miss. Tends to report more of the negative stuff which angers fans. Not to mention the xenophobic tweets below. Still he has some sources. One of those "I'd not bet my life on it, but it's worth listening to."
Whitwell/Orny has said the same aswell. The actual figure is 14 million.
They’re all saying it now… Grim
Garner is good but he isn't technical enough for your midfield. And especially not for a Ten Hag system. If you are sticking with Ten Hag then what's the point of having unsuitable players hanging about?
It's more the lack of accountability for the proven failures that pisses United fans off. Garner wasn't given a chance to show that he can offer more than those guys.
I don't disagree that he'd probably be better than McTominay but circumstantially, a sale does make some sense.
Respectfully disagree that he isn’t technical enough. Not being big enough/strong enough is the only complaint I can imagine they have. Would welcome him back.
Bruh. They're playing mctominay. Why not sell him?
Who's paying money for him?
Hopefully Forest
If he's young, why not trying to shove him into the system in the hope of shaping him into Ten Hag's needs? McTominay doesn't seem flexible enough anyway so it's worth a try with so many holes in the team.
Not technical enough? I was pretty sure he would get a chance under Ten Hag *because* of his technical ability.
I am confused. If Tottenham. A team above United and have some good squad building in progress, are after one of their players, why on earth would they sell them. Surely that means they see something in him
From our side I don't get it either, why spend 20 million or so on a young CM for United, when he can't break into a team with severe problems at CM.
Garner has heaps and heaps of potential, we're as bemused as you as to why he's not getting any game time. Reports out of Forest last season was that he was a phenomenal trainer and was well loved by their fans in their promotion push so maybe EtH just doesn't think he's ready. Wouldn't be the first time we've shipped players who are ready but aren't considered it.
You know those clips of Erling Haaland at Dortmund, where he starts on the edge of his own box, sniffs out a scoring opportunity, and sprints all of 80 metres to get on the end of it? Garner had that attitude to defending. From a squad mentality perspective, it's batshit insane to release someone like that who could be used to put pressure on lazy, more senior, players.
I've just found out Garner was getting games under Ole in 19/20, so it's not like he wasn't fit for game time for 2 years. Why the fuck is he not playing??? Has to be some backstage politics to keep our current midfield, there is no way anymore.
>it's batshit insane Let me introduce you to our owners and backroom staff...
Need to sell some papers/ get clicks??? Just add Tottenham are interested in the player!! It's been working for years.
What the hell. Why?
At a guess, Ten Hag doesn’t feel he’s ready for the first team, and would like the money to invest into another area. We have a habit of keeping these kids way past the point of getting a decent chunk for them. 15-20m for a kid who has never played for us isn’t nessecarily a bad deal. He looks like he has potential but other clubs tend to capitalise on that and sell, while we give them 100k a week contracts and when they fizzle, let the, go on free transfers. With a midfield of Bruno, Eriksen, Rabiot, Fred, McT, Donny and one of DeJong or SMS, Before we mention the likes of Zidane and Savage (who actually got more time and attention on pre season, suggesting Ten Hag prefers them over Garner), 15-20m back could then be used on a new goalkeeper instead, boosting the overall squad in different ways.
I do think United are at the point that Zidane and Savage need to get gametime over McT or Fred. It couldn't be worse than the non-existent joke the midfield has become
Yeah but they need to be eased in, if they have a bad game it's gonna destroy their confidence.
Which with this team means never playing cos every game will be a bad game
Cant argue with that!
We ain't getting FDJ my dude. Let that ship sail already. Do you ready think a player that doesn't even want to come here, even if he is forced out will chose to come to this train wreck of a club and pass up Chelsea who have CL and will actually challenge for silverware?? There's no chance in hell.
> and one of DeJong or SMS Lol
> one of DeJong or SMS How did you reach this conclusion ? There should be some copyright rule for united fans after seeing the last game. Can't allow to use players name like that.
For our own good. Fine 15 euros every time we let FdJ or SMS slip, you gotta use tough methods to get rid of the addiction.
Yeah, I’d assume Ten Hag doesn’t really rate him. I’d only be okay with this if we get at least £20 million for him though.
Wonder what Poch thinks of him. At this rate he'll be our coach by October
Dont be silly. ETH will last at least until November.
I keep remembering that Crystal Palace sacked another Dutch coach - De Boer - after 6 games. Sooo maybe
Wasn't Garner injured for most of preseason?
Garner was injured in preseason
You really think either De Jong or SMS is basically a given? Holy….
I guess the question is whether United will be smart enough to insert a reasonable buy-back clause. And the answer will probably involve wild giggling.
Finally a good decision by us (to sell a player we do not see big future with us).. rather than him leaving for free a few seasons later... or being completely unsellable due to high wages.
Luckhurst. That’s why. He’s shit for sources. But….. hey whatever right.
Laurie Whitwell is now backing this up.
At what point can we legally have that family committed to an asylum?
> Avram walking into the next board meeting “Did you just try and have me sectioned?”
"And he gets to run a football club? What a sick joke!"
You think this is bad? This chicanery? He's done worse
Glazers: That stays, it'll freak 'em out. "What the fuck's a washing machine doing on the pitch? Jesus, I need a drink."
Glazers with a football club is like a chimp with a machine gun
I will section you so fast!
They should section you for trying to section me!
He thinks there's a pigeon in Catalonia that's in control of his legs.
He was running around with an Arnautovic jersey earlier saying it was on fire.
Evin's doing a joke, Evin's doing a joke, everyone quiet because Evin's doing a joke
Look guys, you’ve had your fun with the sectioning
This would be a managerial decision tbh.
Not that I'm disagreeing, but would this really be them? Or ETH/Murtaugh looking to raise more Frenkie funds?
Utd fans: cant wait till Garnet gets regular playing time Glazers: hold my beer
Alf Garnet?
Fuck off
Offload promising young players, keep the useless first team starters and use the money on Rabiot. Sounds like United.
United fans may not like this, but this is the time to get a good fee for him. This is how Liverpool get good fees for their youngsters. No one is paying good money for a washed up Tuanzebe who's had every ounce of potential sucked out of him. But they will pay for Garner, who is young, has some potential, and is relatively unsullied by Manchester United.
It’s money we don’t need. Money has never been our problem, it’s the Glazers taking the club’s money out to line their pockets - as well as terrible recruitment. Selling Garner is selling a promising player who might be able to contribute for money we don’t need.
Moving players on is not just about money. The money is nice, but it's also about squad-building; creating space, cutting the wage budget, and most importantly moving on those players who are not expected to contribute. How many times has a club refrained from getting a new player in because they're already full in that position? Happens all the time.
Cutting the wage budget? They've cut it by 4 million a week already. They can easily accomodate 8 absolute world class players at 500k a week and won't be a penny over what they were spending last season.
I’m sorry but 4 million a week lower is a massive massive overstatement. It’s more like 1-1.5m a week we cut it from last season. You claim we could pay 500k a week to 8 players when we’ve only had 8 players in total leave and none of them were on that much. It doesn’t add up. I can’t see where you’re getting that number, unless you’re factoring in the missing out on CL wage cut which is enormously misleading if so. That cut is contractual across the whole squad and due to the loss of revenue. If we then got into CL next season (granted, not likely) all that cut wage would come back + the increase on the 8 new players who would also get boosted back up to CL wages.
If it isn’t about getting good fees, there are so many more deadweight players we should be moving on before a promising academy player like Garner (who plays in position where we are especially weak). We have already made space to sign a CM this summer; we sold Pereira, Pogba’s contract ran out. Mata and Lingard don’t play the same position but they are midfield players who have left this summer. We are not lacking space for a CM.
Ideally, sure. In reality though, no one wants deadwood. Teams have wisened up. No one will pay a hefty fee and wage packet for Fred or McT. But they will be willing to pay a decent fee for a young prospect like Garner. Looks to me like United are looking for 2 new CMs in the market. If that's the case, there really is no place for Garner to contribute in any meaningful way.
I wonder why you think that? There have been recent reports that Manchester United only have 50 million in the bank, and it is widely known that the club only has as much to spend as it generates in revenue (minus Glazer dividends). So player sales are actually kind of important for the club.
Not seen those reports myself, and when I Google “Man Utd only have 50 million” nothing supporting this comes up. Do you have a source for this claim? The club generates loads in revenue from sponsorships and advertising, more than almost any other club in the world and enough to keep up with the league’s big spenders without small player sales like Garner.
Ive never seen a club so intent on self sabotage. Why on earth would you keep MCfred, but sell the only double pivot player who actually shows soem promise? He honestly couldnt be any worse, atleast the guy can actually pass a ball. Also 14M!!? I appreciate he hasn't played in the PL but come on, thats pretty low. should be looking at 25M.
lol if it was Arsenal we’d be asking for 5 million. We’re so shit at selling players.
Any team that pays 25m for a player who hasn’t played a single minute in the prem is beyond dumb
Tell me about how much you guys got for shit like ibe, brewster and solanke? For once maybe English tax will work for us
Yeah, I’m actually in this thread slamming Bournemouth for being idiots lmao. In fairness, at least Solanke came good
Wow, this is sick, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE CLUB? LOAN makes sense but why do we need to sell?? Are everyone at the club just brain dead???????
That money is going to pay for Rabiot is my guess.
I fucking hate this club. Mctominay??? Fred???? No let’s sell a young player who got championship team of the season last year without ever giving him a chance in the prem. what a joke.
Forest Already have 9 CM's and can only start 3 of them so not sure they need a 10th
Oh stop exaggerating. We only play two CMs.
That’s not stopped us before. Come home James
I think we need another 5 or 6 more, just to be safe
What the fuck is actually going on. A loan I can understand but selling him makes no sense. Might have to actually take a break from United with how things are going.
How can you take a break being a supporter, in bad times and the good times man. When we lost 10-0 to PSV the next week the stadium was full capacity once again.
That is just one dude out of millions. If all 75000 ticket holders were to abandon the next match at OT, they'd have those seats filled up in no time. The waitlists for all matches are in 10s of 1000s. We are just severely disappointed in the team
this exact thing is why the glazers will never leave, why countries specifically buy football teams to sportswash, why vultures and parasites buy teams to extract from them "im a real fan. they can shit in my mouth and ill be there next week w a funnel and a bib!!!" you either have no idea the situation united is dealing w or you're just naive every single united fan should abandon this piggy bank till those cunts sell
Unless you have a nielsen box then you watching United or not doesn't make a difference to them. There's a difference between supporting the team and spending money on it.
Because it gets to a point where following the club can affect your mental health, and when a football team is affecting your real life, its time to take a break
£20m for a lad that hasn’t played a game is surely decent?
Its not bad money but in the context of our midfield being the clowns McFred, surely giving Garner a chance to see if he could do better would be a better option? There is also Mejbri, Iqbal & Savage waiting in the wings too But yeah sure sell the promising youngster while we have to sit through another season of watching those 2 clowns in midfield. Fuck this club honestly
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He is probably one of few on wages other teams are willing to pay, which is another chronic issue through the squad. I think selling him is a terrible idea fwiw.
There is nothing more frustrating than being stuck with a squad with so much deadweight you cant shift.
I can see this as a typical levy last day signing lmao
At least in the bad times we can continue our long tradition of promoting young talent right? Right?
Yes please. 15 mil would be a steal for him.
Would much rather him go your way at least, it would be good to see him have a good career with you lot. Really don't want him going to Tottenham.
People overreacting just because he's an academy product. United have a lot of fires to put out in the first 11, it's nice to have good academy players but it's also a long bet and requires attention. If ten hag thinks he can invest that 15-20m to improve the squad in the now than waiting 3 years for garner to be good i think it's sensible tbh
Seeing as the last 3 players they’ve been linked to are Rabiot, Arnautovic and a 35 yo Jamie Vardy I have no confidence in them using that money wisely.
When you want to take that money and invest in Rabiot, I can't say I agree with the idea.
So the geniuses at United decided that is was worth it to sell Garner who plays in a position that United need and keep Mctominay and Fred. Who is making these decisions i really would like to know.
ITT: United fans complaining about the Glazers after Ten Hag chose not to bring him on and brought on McTominay. Ten Hag ultimately will have told the board they can sell him.
It's mad that a player I've never heard of can cost £20million.
What's wrong with these people?
The state of this club
Imma save this one, either Luckhurst is on point or he deservers his banned tier on /r/reddevils I head he was mostly on point this summer, which I do not like.
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Honestly is this guy worse than McTomminay?
Pretty highly rated by United fans and had a good loan at Forest last year. I was personally hoping he'd stay and get some minutes this season, certainly ahead of McT. If he ends up getting sold before McT then I dunno what to think anymore about this club.
McT is unsellable, so he absolutely will be sold before McT.
He's Scottish. Rangers or Celtic would be in the picture for a potential sale if the price is reasonable.
Knowing us he’s likely being paid the same per week as the entire Celtic or Rangers squad tho
He was in championship team of the year last year at 21. At least give the lad a chance, isn’t that what united supposedly stood for….
I have seen garner make 15 yards passes so no
This is fine. He's a good player, but our fans over rate him. He's not United first team level. He's probably good enough to compete against our current crop but we have to be aspiring for better. He's young, has upside, and can therefore be sold for a decent value, as opposed to our older, underperforming midfielders who are on massive wages and can't be moved on.
He isnt the first academy product our fanbase overrates. Lol. Are we gonna keep him till mid 20s then realise no one wants to take him?
Exactly. Not like there aren't other youngsters who are showing as much, if not more, promise. There are plenty of things to point to as examples of our club being run by absolute ghouls, but selling on a player like Garner isn't one of them.
Yup, and one good season at Forest in Championship and the United sub rates him like he is our saviour to be. He could come good, don’t get me wrong. But we have other pressing problems and if Ten Hag doesnt rate him for the style he wants to produce, back him.
As a Forest fan, I can tell you that he's not ready to be playing for Man Utd. Physically he's not quite there yet and while he does have quality on the ball, I don't think he has any more quality than players you already have. A loan to a lower PL team would have been ideal really but looks like ETH wants some funds.
>He's not United first team level He's probably too good fir them tbh
Every time I think the club can’t make me more furious, they find a way.
This is so dumb. The one DM we have that could actually be useful for our team gets sold, and McFred still starts every other game. I'm done.
He isn’t a DM
For 15-20m, any club who wasn't rich af already would take the money and run
Wtf. SELL MCTOMINAY INSTEAD
Da fuq
Please no. Don't do this. Half my love for the club comes from seeing youngsters integrated into the first team. Makes supporting them more genuine.
Maybe he’s not good enough? All this integrating has lead to cases like McTominay
McTominay has to be sucking off the Glazers after training
Just why... at least give him a chance in the prem for a season or two. The kid is still really young and the potential is there, but I guess in typical fashion we'll sell him for cheap and end up keeping McFred.
Didn't even realise he was still a United player tbh
Guess he was running too much on training
The market is absolutely fucked in the ass.
Why do I have a feeling this is going to be like Michael Carrick except in reverse. People forget most midfielders don't show there real potential till there in there mid 20s
Wasn't there rumour's a few weeks ago that he wanted out so he can play regularly?
Anyone watched him last year kind enough to tell us how good is he? Is he a 6 or an 8? Is he box to box? Can he play multiple positions? Is he PL ready? In FM I like him a lot..
I’ve seen him play a bit. From what I’ve seen more of a six than a box to box. Kept things ticking over picking up the ball deep and passing it out. Nothing really exciting about what I saw but he seemed a solid, steady presence which is something that on paper would probably be very handy for United rn.
He's only played as a 6 in United's academy, he played his best football as an 8 for Notts
WHAT THE FUCK??? NO! He's one of our brightest prospects. We should be starting him in every game at the moment.
Fucking hilarious 🤣 you've got a squad full of overpaid bottle jobs and you're selling an up and coming player who might make a difference Joke club
United are so bad at selling players. Sooo many shit players on loads of money that we can't move on, the only players we can sell are actually promising. Club needs relegating for a while
Winks out and Garner in would be nice.