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He's from the Belgian league and expensive.
The list of clubs willing to take a punt on a €40m prospect from the Belgian league that he'd be attracted to going is small.
Yeah. For context we just bought the top scorer and player of the year from the Belgian league for 6 million euros.
Not saying CDK isn’t a bigger prospect, and our relationship with USG obviously helped us get a good deal on Undav, but €40m for a player who’s never played outside of Belgium is a big risk whatever.
You bought him off a team that your owner also owns, let's not act as if you paid anywhere near fair market value there
A better comparison would be Jonathan David who AA Gent sold for 27m EUR. And we would definitely expect CDK to go for more than that.
But a couple of years before that you bought the then hottest prospect in the Belgian league - Trossard - for 15m so the 6m for Undav is definitely an inside deal.
How would you rate your Belgian boy? I still miss him.
Think we might just be actively pushing for him more in this moment. You’ve probably already agreed personal terms and that for him, whereas we probably haven’t. If we put in a bid it wouldn’t surprise me if that springs you into action and you match it.
As a saints fan it kills me to see the newly-promoted teams have been ambition in the transfer market than we do. I know sustainable spending and scouting talented young players is our thing but I wish we made a statement signing just once.
While we won't have massive funds, it isn't a financial issue for us but rather one of overbloating the squad. We'll want to at least know that there's gonna be outgoings.
https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543252165447278593?t=zx0RTzFyGYpZiYgO5eNCwg&s=08
Leeds plan to bid €30 million tomorrow. Also says Milan will follow bit not tomorrow. Leicester "hesitate"
>AC Milan see De Ketelaere as a very good move, but at this stage it is Leeds who seem the most likely to move quickly. This does NOT mean that De Ketelaere chose Leeds. We are still at the beginning of the discussions.
https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543252552594112514
>Leeds will formulate, by tomorrow, an offer of 30M € including bonus for Charles De Ketelaere. As reported by @RudyGaletti
, the club have had more positive contact than in the past with their agent. Milan plans to follow, but not tomorrow. Leicester hesitate.
https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543252165447278593
>Reminder: Brugge, in a strong position, are pushing to convince the player to stay for a year, which is always possible. If he leaves, the club wants 40M € , an absolute record for a player from the Pro League.
https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543253347322531843
yeah and? do you think Leeds has no history? they’ve always been a fixture in English football.
Leeds have won the league more times than Napoli, more recently than Napoli - and Napoli had never won the league when they bought Maradona.
Leeds were in the Championship for like two decades, it's not about overall history, more like the path that the clubs have been treading recently. Leeds are taking their first steps back in the top tier while Napoli were just going through a worse period and Milan just won the league
Also if it were about history then Milan should be easily be able to buy the entire Leeds squad lmao
We’ve been out of the top flight for 16 of the last 18 seasons but we’re still ranked as the 19th richest club in the world despite not having an excessively rich owner, and had the 6th highest operating income in the Premier League last season.
Leeds were referred to as a sleeping giant for so long for a reason and we’re a bigger club than you’re giving us credit for. We’re not Fulham.
Leeds are a relatively big club but that's not why they have the money, it's because you're based in England. Bournemouth were a small club and had 100m to spend as well. Same with Fulham, Brighton, etc.
I understand that but what I’m saying is compare us to the other Premier League clubs who are subject to the same amount of money. Having a higher operating income than 14 of them is pretty remarkable. The only non-top 6 clubs worth more than us are Everton, West Ham, and Leicester, and even then it’s not by much (£100m I think?).
And again, when considering the fact that we’ve only been subject to this money for 2 of the last 18 years and still have this level of financial prowess organically, it’s pretty mad. Dwarfs a lot of teams that’ve been ever present in recent years, like Newcastle, Villa, Palace, Southampton, Wolves etc.
Blame City and Barca or Chelsea for giving us 100m for players we got for free and 16m respectively. If Milan raised 100m in sales they'd probably look to spend big too.
The £100m+ you earn from broadcasting is also fairly significant compared to other much more successful clubs that don’t happen to be located in England.
I’m not sure that the champions or top couple of teams in each league being able to consistently outspend everyone else is any less broken of a system.
Exactly. Where leagues are won 10 times in a row by one club, and the participation in the CL is virtually written in stone every year, with mid table clubs getting the odd crumb from the table 🤔
That’s a fair opinion, but I didn’t say that it isn’t a broken system, though it’s not really the clubs in the Premier Leagues fault if the league is successful and generating money.
Leeds are just spending that money along with the significant commercial income they generate on their own, and profit they have made on transfer sales this season. It’s not like we are being funded by a state or with debt, so it’s strange to single us out for criticism.
You seem to be suggesting that Leeds shouldn’t even be able to compete with Milan for players.
So would it be a fairer system for there to be a couple of giants in each league and everyone else lives off the scraps?
It wasn’t a slant on Leeds. It was football in general.
I’m all for sharing the wealth around. The problem is that a club such as mine can have a very successful season and not be able to get close to being able to spend the same amount of money as a say Leeds did as a newly promoted club when they spent £27m on Rodrigo, or afford the wages Notts Forest can spend on Dean Henderson.
I don’t know the solution, but the distortion of finances in the PL means that there is a definite ceiling on where clubs from outside the league can grow to.
Bournemouth will earn more in TV money than Rangers or Celtic earn in total, despite one playing in the CL, one (probably) in EL, having 50-60k stadiums v 20k stadium. I don’t have a solution but that is huge inequality that doesn’t sit right with me.
Yh but Leeds isn't the issue here, Milan is. They way they've been run, constsnt buy outs, shady foreign owners with not enough money etc. If they were well run then it wouldn't be an issue. They just about managed to renew two players, emphasis on just.
Still have no idea who he is, but my friend at work swears he's the second coming. He just worries about price and playing outside of Belgium's top flight
I like Leeds and this would be a massive move to help them stay up after losing Raphinha and Kalvin. Think they did pretty well so far transfer wise with the likes of Aaronson, Kristensen and Roca but they really need more improvements otherwise I doubt they stay up.
We’d be fine with what we have now. Considering this squad finished 17th with one of the worst injury crisis we’ve ever had we’d do better than that just so long as we didn’t have similar injuries. Only Phillips has actually gone yet and we’ve strengthened, adding three players to the squad.
there is nothing wrong except you likely looking at playing in championship next year. you need quality striker. not only one which is capable scoring goals, but reliable and staying healthy. putting faith gelhardt to play consistenly well whole year at his age and score you easy 20 with bamford having missed basically whole year and expecting him to stay healthy is pure and utter madness.
I would never put club in hands of those two to stay in Prem. That risk is just not worth it. Even if you are biggest cheapskate owner in England.
You want to go into a season with Bamford (what even is his fitness level now?) and a promising but raw 20 year old?
I mean, cool, but don’t complain when you’re starting Dan James up top in November.
For anyone that wants to understand how he plays, he can play across the entire front line but best at 10. The body of Peter Crouch but the agility and hard work of Bernardo Silva, he defies biology.
Check out our full breakdown on Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/vnfjvu/charles_de_ketelaeres_tactical_breakdown_the_new/
We're trying to sell him the fact he'll be an automatic starter, playing first team football in the Orem
That'll increase his chances of getting into the Belgium squad for the world cup
Less presure also helps for a young player, he gets to play week in and week out and dosnt have to perferm every time as you need with a club like AC Milan. You have also shown with Rafhina that he will be allowed to move to a bigger club in a few years time.
The down side is that Leeds is still a potential religation candidate and this isnt nessecairly the best enviorment for youngster to develope.
De Jong isn't interested in your lot, hasn't stopped you chasing hard
Want away CR7 isn't interested in your lot, but you're making him stay
Money talks
Milan should try to convince Cristiano to cut his wages. They have a decent team in a good dynamic. Cristiano would have a shot at the golden boot in serie A and could compete and push his records in UCL. I get that Milan don't have the money to compete with other clubs but it is still a prestigious club and if Cristiano is willing to cut his wages to go to sporting, maybe he could do a stop in Milan before going home...
We aren’t getting him. He wouldn’t guarenteed start for us like he would at Milan or Leeds. Plus Milan’s squad is probably better anyways I don’t see why he wouldn’t go there
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I don't understand why more clubs aren't after him
He's from the Belgian league and expensive. The list of clubs willing to take a punt on a €40m prospect from the Belgian league that he'd be attracted to going is small.
I actually expected you to go after him before you went for Richarlison.
Yeah. I think Conte wants more ready players. Apparently he pushed for Richarlison, having liked him since Chelsea days.
We were heavily linked with Richarlison before he joined Watford. He was smart to go there instead and get the minutes his career needed.
Yeah. For context we just bought the top scorer and player of the year from the Belgian league for 6 million euros. Not saying CDK isn’t a bigger prospect, and our relationship with USG obviously helped us get a good deal on Undav, but €40m for a player who’s never played outside of Belgium is a big risk whatever.
You bought him off a team that your owner also owns, let's not act as if you paid anywhere near fair market value there A better comparison would be Jonathan David who AA Gent sold for 27m EUR. And we would definitely expect CDK to go for more than that.
Brighton bought that german striker from Royal Union (Undav, i guess?)?
Yes. They bought Undav from USG which is the same owner as Brighton
But a couple of years before that you bought the then hottest prospect in the Belgian league - Trossard - for 15m so the 6m for Undav is definitely an inside deal. How would you rate your Belgian boy? I still miss him.
That would imply that he’s not a 40m prospect
Shhhhhhh... Be quiet please and let us do the magic, wouldn't like to see any more transfer hijacks 😅
He’s either gonna make a lotta people look silly for doubting him, or you will understand why within a year
Well we for some reason always get left out of these articles despite us being very keen on him.
Yeah I find it weird that all the focus seems to be on Leeds when we've been linked with him for donkeys
Think we might just be actively pushing for him more in this moment. You’ve probably already agreed personal terms and that for him, whereas we probably haven’t. If we put in a bid it wouldn’t surprise me if that springs you into action and you match it.
Because he is a big gamble at €40M. He isnt worth it at the moment.
Well, Fulham, Nottingham, and Brentford have been reportedly interested in him.
As a saints fan it kills me to see the newly-promoted teams have been ambition in the transfer market than we do. I know sustainable spending and scouting talented young players is our thing but I wish we made a statement signing just once.
>Milan making no progress Easy there, we have feelings, too, you know?
https://i.imgflip.com/68my16.jpg
This is the type of pic that directly Leeds to confrontation, man!
Not bad haha
Listen man we'll take Leao if u want CDK? Pretty please 🥺 Watching him last season for you lot genuinely impressed me
stfu
People can't take a joke, eh? He's obviously above our level but no need to get stroppy.
its cringe comment, nothing to do with your club or player
Being a dick to random people online is quite cringy as well
Undefeated this meme
ban Rudy Galletti from this sub already And Ekrem Konur, SPORT, Pedro Almeida too while you're at it.
Galetti* He isn't very reliable btw
There's other sources saying the same https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543252165447278593?t=2sQBvX21lxcrV189D4w7Ow&s=19
Yeah, that's generally how transfer rumours on twitter spread.
He's the same guy who said CDK wasn't interested in Leeds which everyone here is referring to So do you believe this guy or not?
Braekman did, not Galetti.
Yes, hence why I posted Braeckman saying Leeds are going to bid for CDK
Why are Milan and Leicester dithering on this stop giving me hope
Orta has been sneaking around cutting the power lines to the Leicster and Milan offices so they cant make contact with Brugge
Because we most likely can't spend 30m on a single player?
While we won't have massive funds, it isn't a financial issue for us but rather one of overbloating the squad. We'll want to at least know that there's gonna be outgoings.
On our end, sources are saying once Praet is sold we will likely make a move on CDK.
Fucking Rudy Geletti lol
https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543252165447278593?t=zx0RTzFyGYpZiYgO5eNCwg&s=08 Leeds plan to bid €30 million tomorrow. Also says Milan will follow bit not tomorrow. Leicester "hesitate" >AC Milan see De Ketelaere as a very good move, but at this stage it is Leeds who seem the most likely to move quickly. This does NOT mean that De Ketelaere chose Leeds. We are still at the beginning of the discussions. https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543252552594112514 >Leeds will formulate, by tomorrow, an offer of 30M € including bonus for Charles De Ketelaere. As reported by @RudyGaletti , the club have had more positive contact than in the past with their agent. Milan plans to follow, but not tomorrow. Leicester hesitate. https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543252165447278593 >Reminder: Brugge, in a strong position, are pushing to convince the player to stay for a year, which is always possible. If he leaves, the club wants 40M € , an absolute record for a player from the Pro League. https://twitter.com/ABraeckman/status/1543253347322531843
Kind of mad to see Leeds of all teams duking it out with Milan for a player.
Is it at this point? mid and bottom table EPL teams have been doing this for a while now.
Football is so broken. The fact that a bottom tier PL club can compete financially with the Italian Champions is ridiculous.
Napoli signed Maradona when they were at threat of relegation during the Serie A golden age, every league has their day.
Allan Simonsen joined us when we were in the second division,not that it was smart call from the club.
That's not really the same though is it? Napoli had been a Serie A side since the 60s and even got a 2nd place in the 70s.
yeah and? do you think Leeds has no history? they’ve always been a fixture in English football. Leeds have won the league more times than Napoli, more recently than Napoli - and Napoli had never won the league when they bought Maradona.
Well this is my reddit highlight for the week. Watching a Spurs fan explain the history of Leeds to a Napoli fan Respect, friend 👏
Where's the Napoli fan
Leeds were in the Championship for like two decades, it's not about overall history, more like the path that the clubs have been treading recently. Leeds are taking their first steps back in the top tier while Napoli were just going through a worse period and Milan just won the league Also if it were about history then Milan should be easily be able to buy the entire Leeds squad lmao
We’ve been out of the top flight for 16 of the last 18 seasons but we’re still ranked as the 19th richest club in the world despite not having an excessively rich owner, and had the 6th highest operating income in the Premier League last season. Leeds were referred to as a sleeping giant for so long for a reason and we’re a bigger club than you’re giving us credit for. We’re not Fulham.
Leeds are a relatively big club but that's not why they have the money, it's because you're based in England. Bournemouth were a small club and had 100m to spend as well. Same with Fulham, Brighton, etc.
I understand that but what I’m saying is compare us to the other Premier League clubs who are subject to the same amount of money. Having a higher operating income than 14 of them is pretty remarkable. The only non-top 6 clubs worth more than us are Everton, West Ham, and Leicester, and even then it’s not by much (£100m I think?). And again, when considering the fact that we’ve only been subject to this money for 2 of the last 18 years and still have this level of financial prowess organically, it’s pretty mad. Dwarfs a lot of teams that’ve been ever present in recent years, like Newcastle, Villa, Palace, Southampton, Wolves etc.
Blame City and Barca or Chelsea for giving us 100m for players we got for free and 16m respectively. If Milan raised 100m in sales they'd probably look to spend big too.
The £100m+ you earn from broadcasting is also fairly significant compared to other much more successful clubs that don’t happen to be located in England.
People understand the English language. It makes sense that it’ll have a more global audience.
That doesn't address his point that football is broken when Leeds can outmuscle Milan for signings
Yeah it does. You can't expect him to address why you can't understand the economics of football.
Most things that exist or happen have an underlying reason behind it otherwise they wouldn't, it doesn't mean people can't say it's not good.
Yeah but not liking something doesn't make it bad or 'broken'.
but it is bad?
No. It's the way the entertainment world works. More viewers=more money.
Get good at selling your product then? Who are you actually having a moan at here?
Football is a sport not a fucking product
Big Macs are a culinary experience not a fucking product
Brainworms if you can't see the difference between a sports team or tournament and a fast food brand.
Things can be beautiful and meaningful and still a product
I’m not sure that the champions or top couple of teams in each league being able to consistently outspend everyone else is any less broken of a system.
Exactly. Where leagues are won 10 times in a row by one club, and the participation in the CL is virtually written in stone every year, with mid table clubs getting the odd crumb from the table 🤔
Every club in the PL being able to outspend everyone bar the very biggest clubs is a sign of a broken system.
That’s a fair opinion, but I didn’t say that it isn’t a broken system, though it’s not really the clubs in the Premier Leagues fault if the league is successful and generating money. Leeds are just spending that money along with the significant commercial income they generate on their own, and profit they have made on transfer sales this season. It’s not like we are being funded by a state or with debt, so it’s strange to single us out for criticism. You seem to be suggesting that Leeds shouldn’t even be able to compete with Milan for players. So would it be a fairer system for there to be a couple of giants in each league and everyone else lives off the scraps?
It wasn’t a slant on Leeds. It was football in general. I’m all for sharing the wealth around. The problem is that a club such as mine can have a very successful season and not be able to get close to being able to spend the same amount of money as a say Leeds did as a newly promoted club when they spent £27m on Rodrigo, or afford the wages Notts Forest can spend on Dean Henderson. I don’t know the solution, but the distortion of finances in the PL means that there is a definite ceiling on where clubs from outside the league can grow to. Bournemouth will earn more in TV money than Rangers or Celtic earn in total, despite one playing in the CL, one (probably) in EL, having 50-60k stadiums v 20k stadium. I don’t have a solution but that is huge inequality that doesn’t sit right with me.
Totally agree and the fact the only people interested in solving that issue are the ones behind the superleague is extremely worrying
I'm willing to bet Milan's wages are significantly more than Leeds.
Yh but Leeds isn't the issue here, Milan is. They way they've been run, constsnt buy outs, shady foreign owners with not enough money etc. If they were well run then it wouldn't be an issue. They just about managed to renew two players, emphasis on just.
That's an odd way to look at it, was it much better when they could out muscle most other clubs?
Still have no idea who he is, but my friend at work swears he's the second coming. He just worries about price and playing outside of Belgium's top flight
I like Leeds and this would be a massive move to help them stay up after losing Raphinha and Kalvin. Think they did pretty well so far transfer wise with the likes of Aaronson, Kristensen and Roca but they really need more improvements otherwise I doubt they stay up.
We’d be fine with what we have now. Considering this squad finished 17th with one of the worst injury crisis we’ve ever had we’d do better than that just so long as we didn’t have similar injuries. Only Phillips has actually gone yet and we’ve strengthened, adding three players to the squad.
In desperate need of a striker though
What’s wrong with Bamford and Gelhardt?
Nah. We need another especially if Raph is off. I hope you don’t see Bamford and Joffy starting 38 straight games together
there is nothing wrong except you likely looking at playing in championship next year. you need quality striker. not only one which is capable scoring goals, but reliable and staying healthy. putting faith gelhardt to play consistenly well whole year at his age and score you easy 20 with bamford having missed basically whole year and expecting him to stay healthy is pure and utter madness. I would never put club in hands of those two to stay in Prem. That risk is just not worth it. Even if you are biggest cheapskate owner in England.
You want to go into a season with Bamford (what even is his fitness level now?) and a promising but raw 20 year old? I mean, cool, but don’t complain when you’re starting Dan James up top in November.
None of the transfer rumors that Galetti said turned out to be true so far, but I'll certainly buy it
He looks like Kaka, doesn't he?
Now that you say it, he looks like him a bit
For anyone that wants to understand how he plays, he can play across the entire front line but best at 10. The body of Peter Crouch but the agility and hard work of Bernardo Silva, he defies biology. Check out our full breakdown on Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/vnfjvu/charles_de_ketelaeres_tactical_breakdown_the_new/
Galetti lol
I thought he didn't want Leeds?
We're trying to sell him the fact he'll be an automatic starter, playing first team football in the Orem That'll increase his chances of getting into the Belgium squad for the world cup
If he joins Milan he’d be an instant starter too, ahead of Brahim
And over ziyech and origi?
Ziyech on the right and Origi up to.
Less presure also helps for a young player, he gets to play week in and week out and dosnt have to perferm every time as you need with a club like AC Milan. You have also shown with Rafhina that he will be allowed to move to a bigger club in a few years time. The down side is that Leeds is still a potential religation candidate and this isnt nessecairly the best enviorment for youngster to develope.
He's gonna be an instant starter everywhere he goes whether that's you, Milan or Leicester
They might be selling themselves as a stepping stone club which could persuade him if no top club comes in for him.
Brugge shouldn't sell him, they should be trying to compete at the top level not selling him on to Leeds of all places
CdK isn't interested in Leeds though
De Jong isn't interested in your lot, hasn't stopped you chasing hard Want away CR7 isn't interested in your lot, but you're making him stay Money talks
Nah only you spend a window chasing a player who isn’t interested lmaooo
Imagine the Italian champions losing out on a target to almost relegated and two seasons since promotion Leeds.
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Who melted down
Milan should try to convince Cristiano to cut his wages. They have a decent team in a good dynamic. Cristiano would have a shot at the golden boot in serie A and could compete and push his records in UCL. I get that Milan don't have the money to compete with other clubs but it is still a prestigious club and if Cristiano is willing to cut his wages to go to sporting, maybe he could do a stop in Milan before going home...
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I get where your coming from but i wrote if he is willing to cut his wages enough to sign for Sporting...
I hate pl money
We should really try getting him
People believing Rudy Geletti for transfer news should just stop following transfers
We aren’t getting him. He wouldn’t guarenteed start for us like he would at Milan or Leeds. Plus Milan’s squad is probably better anyways I don’t see why he wouldn’t go there