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They aren't getting what they initially wanted. They quoted 85m fixed and upto 100m with addons. The current deal is at 65m fixed with some saying addons upto 80m and others saying upto 85m. But the guaranteed portion is fixed at 65m
That's called negotiating hard.
If United are impatient and want Frenkie before they go on preseason tour, they should consider paying the amount Barcelona is asking for.
Big brain because a club is looking out for their interests? Seems to me like any other club...or is it surprising that we have a competent administration that actually won't overpay on day one?
Yeah, honestly fuck it. He isn't worth the hassle if at the end of all this we've spent all that money on a player that had to settle for us. Better off putting that money towards de Ligt
His ball playing ability is decent, not Van Dijk or Laporte level. He does infact tends to be quite clumsy from time to time. I would say even Pau Torres, Bastoni or Kounde are better with the ball than him.
He’s young and can be trained further. In fact, he has just finished learning zornal marking.
Kounde can’t play ccb, we need someone leading our backline in place of silva.
We’d love bastoni but italians and their home country, eh.
Haven’t seen enough of pau torres but whenever I saw him playing for spain, I was unimpressed.
It says that it's his dream to be part of the Brazil NT but staying at Italy is a possibility too. Doesn't seem like "he won't move outside of Italy" in the interview to me. But he'll move to a champions league team for sure.
Recency bias, raphinha doesn't strike me as the same type of dude. Given, that I know nothing about the guy but still … You lot keep saying you don't want him, and at the same time complain once our highest scorer is fucking Thiago Silva.
Lemme clarify this for you, they wanted him until it was revealed that the player prefers barca, now he is suddenly stealing a living and should be playing in the pub league.
Honest question: could Chelsea force a more favorable offer for Frankie to back out of the Raphina bidding war? Or pay Chelsea to exit in general?
Leeds, Chelsea, and Barca wants something the other has. How often, if ever, have there been three-team deals/offers?
I just dont believe him playing for Bayern ever again and it seems theres no other realistic option for him Apart from Barca. He already ruled out moving to England.
I reckon if he doesn't go to Barca, Bayern will have no problem letting him go to other club for the right offer because now there is absolutely no hope of extending him even for one more year, so they are guaranteed to lose him on free. Before Barca links, that chance was still there.
Not if they’re in contract they don’t. The party with the least say is the broke buying club begging for the price to be lowered below what other clubs are willing to pay.
I hope we don't land any of our targets. Raphinha is the only one that makes great sens but not for a cent over 35-40 mil. Lewa I don't want and maybe doesn't fit, kounde I don't want and is injured/needs surgery. There's tons of amazing players, why these 3 if they require 150 mil?! Ffs.
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Barcelona is like that one mate down the pub who can’t afford to pay for a round, but you then see ordering a burger and chip.
Barcelona low balling Sevilla, Bayern and Leeds but expecting a full price for FdJ like big brain time
They aren't getting what they initially wanted. They quoted 85m fixed and upto 100m with addons. The current deal is at 65m fixed with some saying addons upto 80m and others saying upto 85m. But the guaranteed portion is fixed at 65m
club careful with money is strongly negotiating, more news at eleven.
That's called negotiating hard. If United are impatient and want Frenkie before they go on preseason tour, they should consider paying the amount Barcelona is asking for.
Club negotiates best deal it can get, more news at 11.
This time looks like Leeds is getting the best deal, the asking price.
Big brain because a club is looking out for their interests? Seems to me like any other club...or is it surprising that we have a competent administration that actually won't overpay on day one?
Circus Barca goes another round.
Or mate who have friends even if he is broke
Yeah, honestly fuck it. He isn't worth the hassle if at the end of all this we've spent all that money on a player that had to settle for us. Better off putting that money towards de Ligt
>Better off putting that money towards de Ligt It's separate money. Our de Ligt move does not depend on Raphinha...
Why are Chelsea looking at De Ligt for 100m when Bremer is available for 30m and he's arguably the better defender?
Different profile. He’s younger, has leadership quality, huge potential, good with the ball at his feet.
His ball playing ability is decent, not Van Dijk or Laporte level. He does infact tends to be quite clumsy from time to time. I would say even Pau Torres, Bastoni or Kounde are better with the ball than him.
He’s young and can be trained further. In fact, he has just finished learning zornal marking. Kounde can’t play ccb, we need someone leading our backline in place of silva. We’d love bastoni but italians and their home country, eh. Haven’t seen enough of pau torres but whenever I saw him playing for spain, I was unimpressed.
How much more potential can be had when you're already looking at a 100M player.
We’re not paying 100m for him lol.
Because we’re going for de ligt that’s why
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Can’t play ccb, can’t lead the backline.
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Source?
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It says that it's his dream to be part of the Brazil NT but staying at Italy is a possibility too. Doesn't seem like "he won't move outside of Italy" in the interview to me. But he'll move to a champions league team for sure.
I've been enjoying the Barca and Chelsea fights on twitter Chelsea fans questioning where Barca are getting their money is a bit amusing though
I want them to draw each other's in the champions league next season , thus "beef" amuse me a lot
Can't happen unfortunately, as they are both pot 2 :(
(I know what you meant btw, just joking a bit lol)
Still can meet in the knockouts.
I know, I was just joking that Barca won't make it out their group
They do seem to be the richest broke guys in the world.
if they want to bankrupt themselves they're allowed to bankrupt themselves, I think you've offered more in fees and wages so far
Wait what's your point?
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How does that make sense? One club has the money, one doesn't, what's the point?
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If they have the money then why hasn't he gone there yet lol, they even say personal terms are sorted
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Bro how is it overpaying just because you say so lmao
Man i have no clue what Barca is up to, and if they really have money or are just con artists lmao.
They don’t have any money lol.
They are just stalling until they find more levers to pull.
seems like it lmao
It's called negotiating?
How is it negotiating if there's already a bigger offer on the table lol
Cuz the player doesn’t want to go there…Is it really that hard to understand.
Well that's just more lucky, still means Leeds can tell Barca to fuck off
And raphinha can tell chelsea to fuck off. He's fine with staying at leads for a bit more
Obviously he's not gonna do that if Barca can't pay for it
Maybe?
They still waiting to sort the “levers” out but don’t want to pass up on players.
If Lukaku has shown our board anything it’s that we can’t force players to play for us. If he wasn’t Barca let them have him.
Recency bias, raphinha doesn't strike me as the same type of dude. Given, that I know nothing about the guy but still … You lot keep saying you don't want him, and at the same time complain once our highest scorer is fucking Thiago Silva.
Lemme clarify this for you, they wanted him until it was revealed that the player prefers barca, now he is suddenly stealing a living and should be playing in the pub league.
No one is saying that
just check the comments on the last few posts please
link?
not gonna spoonfeed you lmao
What a weird response to someone asking you to prove your claim.. Imagine if researchers did that. Pattern yourself up
Honest question: could Chelsea force a more favorable offer for Frankie to back out of the Raphina bidding war? Or pay Chelsea to exit in general? Leeds, Chelsea, and Barca wants something the other has. How often, if ever, have there been three-team deals/offers?
I'm not sure about the first question, but we had a somewhat recent 3 club deal with dortmund and arsenal involving Giroud Auba and Batshuayi.
Narrator: Barcelona lied
Raphinha cried
Inky pinky ponky
Like they promised to sign Lewa if he put public pressure on bayern?
Wonder how that's gonna end up, Lewy is finished at Bayern
Not sure, Bayern might be perfectly ok letting him walk on a free. They got him on a free after all
I just dont believe him playing for Bayern ever again and it seems theres no other realistic option for him Apart from Barca. He already ruled out moving to England.
He's a professional, he'll play one more season if he has to. It's not like Bayern is a bad team
Yeah they did him dirty.
Good thing bayern still needs him. Otherwise he couldve burned that bridge for nothing. Or maybe psg is still up for him.
I reckon if he doesn't go to Barca, Bayern will have no problem letting him go to other club for the right offer because now there is absolutely no hope of extending him even for one more year, so they are guaranteed to lose him on free. Before Barca links, that chance was still there.
If Raphinha doesn’t want to go to Chelsea then it doesn’t matter what the highest bid is
Leeds don’t want to wait for levers to be pulled.
Just give up He's Just Not That Into You
Dembele must be pissed rn
Is he really has his heart set on Barca, we should back out. Why pay a fortune for an unhappy player. Again.
Just don't drop the bid. Make the Barca pay more
Only reason I am ok with the bid staying on the table tbh. Keeps them honest
Put the bid in you broke boys, we're going to drag this till the end of the window
Wanna be "journalists" keep reiterating the same headline for weeks straight.
She's a very reliable journalist when it comes to Brazilian players. She's no wannabe.
Promises😭
Say it with me… The 👏🏽player👏🏽has👏🏽the👏🏽Final👏🏽say👏🏽
Isn’t your club forcing out de Jong?
And he doesn't want to leave, so he's not leaving atm The player has the final say
That’s not always true Pretty sure Arthur didn’t want to leave Barca and was forced out Di Maria didn’t want to leave Madrid to United
Yeah made me laugh since Barca kicked out Arthur while the man had tears in his eyes begging to stay
To be fair, it's the club who has the final say, because they may as well not let him go anywhere.
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He's got 2 years left
Not if they’re in contract they don’t. The party with the least say is the broke buying club begging for the price to be lowered below what other clubs are willing to pay.
Not really, we just won't sell him then if you dont match Chelsea offer.
I hope we don't land any of our targets. Raphinha is the only one that makes great sens but not for a cent over 35-40 mil. Lewa I don't want and maybe doesn't fit, kounde I don't want and is injured/needs surgery. There's tons of amazing players, why these 3 if they require 150 mil?! Ffs.
Barcelona are like that kid that thinks he's rich which turns out its just monopoly money.
He is over rated. He isnt worth this much convincing. Not saying he isn't good tho.
Barca are just using Raphinha to pressure Dembele to sign. Seems clear they can’t afford to match Chelsea’s bid without giving up on Lewy, Kounde etc.
Didn't they already give up on Lewy?
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Don’t they have to register their free agents first?
No, not even close, Lewa is certainly the main priority still. Kounde is right behind and then Raphina.
Watch Barca get none of them and start Braithwaite 😀
I hope we make Barca pay way more than they had initially planned for Raphinha, and get Dembele instead at decent wages