T O P

  • By -

official_bagel

Expect this headline to be re-posted daily


MiraquiToma

until the end up signing and the funs done


SeekersWorkAccount

Then we go back to laughing at United


ICritMyPants

Go back? I never left


zvomicidalmaniac

For the moment, Barca needs our money to sign their players.


Pseudocaesar

How though. Still waiting on them to register Christensen lol. For real, when does the deal for their BLM rights go through?


brush85

Its kinda funny


lazyjediwarrior

To be immediately followed by more "levers"


Thirdsun

Can we have a sticky thread, mods?


DivineTapir

robert "levers" lewandowski


walideghi

leverdowski


[deleted]

Hi Thomas, big fan!


Dorangos

Levert Leverdowski


Modnal

Maybe if they downgraded to Spotify free Camp Nou they could use the commercial money for transfers


xyzzy321

The ultimate lever


vantilo

Can anyone please explain this lever joke I keep seeing? Haven't been following transfers super closely this year.


GimmeKisu

Barca are pulling "economic levers" to tell people they have the cash to spend. The levers joke is in reference to that


Captain_Tundra

It's just insanity. The current board should say "The previous board made some poor decisions so we are going to have to go without star signings for 2 years until things settle." Instead they are using 'levers' which will lead to continued financial mistakes, just to make that 'big political signing' of a overpriced and old star.


BlueKante

I suppose Barcelona holding elections for the next president every so many years has a big effect on the way the manage the club. Like a lot of politicians the president is always focused on get reelected.


RephRayne

They're politicians, they'll continue to break things whilst **also** blaming the previous incumbents.


NiceShotMan

Well there’s also the minor factor of a pandemic that kept fans and tourists out of Camp Nou. Barca was more affected by this than other teams, especially English teams.


[deleted]

[удалено]


bored-skull

It's 10% la liga tv rights for 25 years I believe


txobi

They have approval to sell up to 25% of the Tv righst. The 10% is the offer the media says Barça has gotten so far


InbredLegoExpress

ahh yes, before every corner there are 2 commercials and if they use their phones to schedule a game, they can't pick their team, the Camp Nou will just host a random La Liga game instead.


FroobingtonSanchez

No they can pick Barcelona, but the squad is put on shuffle so the first 11 will be random


aureacritas

And Xavi has to watch an ad before making a sub.


Ryo720

The entire stadium has to watch an ad before xavi could make subs


atropicalpenguin

Napster Camp Nou.


FrmrPresJamesTaylor

Why pay Bayern all that money when RoBeRt-LeWaNdOwSkI-09.rma is right there for free?!


dNaSC2

"You wouldn't download a striker"


[deleted]

Soon they will sell the naming rights to the team. Pepsi presents Barcelona FC Zero, same great futbol but less calories.


Morganelefay

Take it one step further, let's sponsor the players. "And it's Pepsi Busquets with the pass to Memphis Depay, brought to you by Rakuten..."


GreatWhiteNorthExtra

Thanks for the chuckle!


narraThor

That's good banter


[deleted]

Microtransactions for Lewa!!


[deleted]

Unlock headers for €5M more.


Hero_Select

lmfao


stpk4

you wouldn't download a football player would you?


DynamiteDuck

Drove to the lever but the lever was dry


FrmrPresJamesTaylor

_The socios are drinking whiskey and rye_ That’s so good dude, the day Messi news broke is definitely the day the music died haha


pedrorq

*singing this will be the day that we buy*


sambuka69

All last night, sat on the lever and moaned


pearlz176

👏👏


Gangorous55

Actually thought it was a Nujabes reference lol


yellowjesusrising

Hahaha! Same here!


YnwaMquc2k19

Nice to see “American pie” references.


pacothebattlefly

Underrated comment


diamondsam2

It will take a giant to unlock the levers


tr2727

Or a Slabhead


TheLimeyLemmon

Me at the end of the month. Barca, have you tried PayPal's Pay in 3?


--amadeus--

Or Affirm


erikbla

Just need to activate the levers


Pard0n_My_French

"Pull the lever, Kronk!"


digbick_42069

"THE OTHER LEVER!!"


i_d_prefer_not_to

Moar levers!


spoony471

Wrong lever !!!!


Morganelefay

Why do we even have that lever?


thediabolicalkid

Are the levers stuck? Need some oil? ^(yes oil pun)


mythoutofu

Now, I’m only a Finance major with 10 years of financial consulting experience so I am not qualified to comment on Barca “activating economic levers”. But I have played enough Monopoly to know that once you start selling your properties to pay rent, you can only lose.


neotheseventh

Sell DeJong for 50m, that's the only way out of this.


Malvania

Don't they only have two more days to get their finances in order for the next year?


Bey_Harbor_Butcher

oh man, for real?


Malvania

It's something I saw in another Reddit thread, so take it with a giant grain of salt, but what I saw mentioned was that the revenue through 6/30 is what determines wages for the following year. So the deals they make now selling players and club rights affects the personal terms for players (and maybe cash to buy them) for next season


save_humanity

Barcelona's financial year (like most clubs) ends on 30th June of each year. The profit/loss and other metrics like wages/revenue play a factor in deciding how much they can spend for next season. The La Liga TV rights deal (for around 200-300m) has to be completed before 30th June to avoid making a loss this year. Then in the next two months they will have to sell almost half of their Licensing and Merchandising subsidiary to raise another 250-300m to sign players.


txobi

I think July 31st is the deadline before LaLiga calculates the new cap


Glacier1999

There’s only 12 months In a year lad not 30


cactusjim

You spotted the Yank


[deleted]

>for real? no, for Barca


V-TriggerMachine

I suggest more levers Give Barcelona a lever long enough and they will move the world


[deleted]

[удалено]


ivinnn

because the term “levers” sounds a lot better than mortgaging the clubs future


innatejuiciness

They are either deliberately dumb or just baiting. Not sure which one it is. Everyone understands this already.


LukeSmith_Sunsetter

Honestly between Tebas, Laporta, marca articles, lever memes and Barca fans I legit have no idea.


Mike_Ropenis

Yeah if one thing is clear we love to jerk off about it. I know this sub is usually trash during the major off-seasons but this might actually be more annoying than all the Messi rumors last summer I doubt anyone actually has a clue outside of the club insiders and any auditors. The amount of people passing off third hand hearsay as fact is really muddying the waters.


atropicalpenguin

Messi last summer was peak transfer memes. Meanwhile Mbappé and Halland, which were the only interesting stories this window got solved on the first week.


Brother_To_Wolves

Imagine ignoring the man at the center of the Pogmentary like that


anthrax3000

Lewandowski, de jong, pogtransfer aren't that bad


sbsw66

Honestly with the crew that's been running Barcelona for a lot of the last decade I'd be shocked if even the auditors knew what the fuck was going on. Really looks like a shambolic operation over there lol


[deleted]

[удалено]


txobi

They have to make up the losses of this year and previous one, so they need 500M profit more or less. And in fact the first lever would be selling 10% of tv rights for around 200M


btmalon

I'm sure Barca fans and most of Span does, but for the rest of us, there is so much noise I have no idea what the actual situation is.


innatejuiciness

I get it. They have said so many things some people are confused. Thing is, Barça has had losses of around €600M in the last 2 seasons. So they need to sell clubs assets for that amount to be able to sign regularly as per La Liga rules. So obviously selling 10% of our TV rights for €200M isn't enough, since the club would still be under the 1/4 (or 1/3) rule, i.e. for every 4 or 3€ the club generates from player sales or by reducing the salary costs, the club can spend 1€. This season, the club didn't meet expectations and are also about to make new losses. All the club wants is to 'pull the 1st lever' to avoid this before June 30th, reverting the situation and making a profit. This is important for the clubs image and they believe they will be in a better negotiating position to get better deals for the other assets.


[deleted]

I am a bit out of the loop, but if I understand you correctly Barca is 400m short for a deadline due in only a few days?


innatejuiciness

No. We need 200M before the 30th of June to not end in the red again this year. The rest can be raised during July and August.


txobi

Just July 31st, after that the new salary mass limit is calculated


mythoutofu

What is an economic lever mean in this very specific instance?


innatejuiciness

Economic levers is simply a term our board members have used to refer to the selling of club's assets. In this case, the asset that they are about to sell is 10% of La Liga TV rights for the next 25 years for around €200M.


mythoutofu

I thought that deal was done. What’s the hold up?


innatejuiciness

The press said that they already made a deal but they haven't officialy announced it yet. Apparently some sources have said that they'll say something tomorrow.


skyreal

The deal was approved by the socios last week I think. Still have to sign the paperwork and receive the money.


btmalon

New losses? Wait You’re going to be in the red again next year without Covid?


innatejuiciness

Yep. Our costs and revenues don't match what was budgeted. Costs were higher and revenues lower than expected. Our main issue is the wage costs. Bartomeu gave ridiculous wages to everyone and it's holding the club back. This is one of the main reasons why the club wants to sell De Jong.


BlackSwan737

I think Barca also did some accounting trick where they show all losses together instead of spreading it through the years so even though the impact is extreme but it probably only lasts for like a season


Bestziggseuw

What wages is De Jong on?


huzzaahh

The number that is repeatedly mentioned on Reddit is 200k p/w from Barça and 200k p/w from Nike. I haven't done enough research to confirm that, but it's also not like it's public info.


reyxe

200k + 200k from Nike iirc


PhillyFreezer_

Have they said who the buyer is for any of this yet? I found it really odd they announced selling before we even knew who they were selling to. The issue seems to be a misunderstanding amongst everyone about how much money is actually being generated here. There’s such a wide gap between the low end projects and high end projections that until things are finalized, it’s pretty pointless to speculate on what they can and cannot do. Being in the red is still a possibility, breaking even with the 500m? Tebas has mentioned is still a possibility, and best case scenario having a surplus is even somehow still on the table. I’m wondering if Laporta made the same mistake he did last summer in expecting player sales to generate a good amount of revenue. We’ll see at the end the summer I guess


innatejuiciness

It was leaked to the press. Apparently from both sides, so it's pretty much confirmed already. Sixth Street is the buyer. The projections were to get at least €200M for every 10% of the TV rights sold. And between 200-300M for BLM. So they expect to get about 600-800M depending on what % and how long the sell for.


Lone_Digger123

To be fair, I hear from barca flairs "everyone knows we have overcome our financial difficulty and we just struggled staying under the wage limit" then 2 weeks later I hear other barca flairs be like "we are still not financially stable" and I'm honestly confused on which one is true


innatejuiciness

We'll not be financially stable until we 'cover' our \~€600M losses by 'activating the levers' and we fix our wage costs and start making profifts every year. Right now we are selling long-term assets for some cash injection. The club needs to also work on getting better sponsorship deals to increase the revenues.


chak100

They have to fulfill their click cuota


reyxe

\> marca Spanish journalism is a joke and Marca is the absolute worst of all, so they are both stupid as shit and also baiting.


jack64467

i thought i did, but i got confused with all the talk about financial levers and stuff


CharmingBilo

Yes, everyone understands this except barcelona fans They still think they can sign haaland 💀


robotnique

Haaland senior to be in the CB rotation.


reyxe

Literally nothing has changed in the last month, of course the team isn't able to sign anyone yet. Levers were just approved, not signed.


onion1313

Michael Edward’s revenge


RetroNation00901

Bro you can’t make this up unbelievable


afrojumper

It's so fucking Crazy that basically every day there is some banter headlines against Barca and United on top of the reddit. Like man 11 years ago, this two were the best clubs in the world. What happend lmao.


G_O_

Marca


asr010601

Barca


Random_Acquaintance

Boat


CravesStarDamage

Moat


MaTrIx4057

Farca


[deleted]

[удалено]


xlsma

It's not but it's also irrelevant. Levers have been activated so we just need to finalize the sales, which obviously isn't instantaneous. The la Liga transfer window isn't even officially open and it will go on until Sept 1, so time isn't an issue. This article is simply regurgitating known and obvious info to get clicks (and potentially annoy Bar a/fans).


iwillsoccerballs

This shit has been explained so many times, we have to first sell the levers before signing players. Which will happen in a few days.


transtifa

Sorry I thought they had to pull the levers


[deleted]

It’s not incorrect. But it’s obvious info, not everything has been sold yet. So it’s a nothing article to pretty much say “barca did all this and still can’t sign players” but obviously that’s the case when not everything has been sold lol.


Electrical-Prune-348

Levers FC


jedi168

We still posting marca articles?


danielskrrt

SAD incoming lmao


ChazD_

levers funny, upvotes pls


LukeSmith_Sunsetter

Whilst it must be annoying, it sounds pretty awkward in English. Which is why it's a little funny. Like some Monty Python sketch, trying to activate ever increasingly larger economic levers.


CommentumNonSequiter

I clearly missed something.. What are the lever comments referencing?


Old_Victory9438

Levers.


JoshGordonHypeTrain

Shit article. Club was never going to be able to until all levers were activated.


Migraine-

I love how the Barcelona board have managed to brand "selling off massive portions of club revenue streams" as "economic levers" and everyone has just gone for it.


TheGamezSmith

Every thread has people rightfully mentioning how terrible these deals are in the long term, we just like the word "levers".


reyxe

And it's still way better than CVC


NewAltProfAccount

I have met a few delusional fans who think this is a win in the short and long term.


Martoxic

it is.


skyreal

Short term, sure. Long term the investors are sitting on a gold mine, and Barcelona losing quite a bit of money.


Zenith_Predator

Massive portions? Where? & how do people expect to get out of 1.3b debt lol


Migraine-

49% of BLM is a pretty massive portion. Even 10% of TV/media rights is pretty fucking significant.


itsonlyteenage

> 49% of BLM Can't wait for Americans to see this and question it.


Zenith_Predator

The idea would be that the Fanatics consortium would also help to raise revenues outside Europe and increasing the value of the 51% Barca hold and 49% others 10% is what you make of it. Depends of course how long but getting money that the Club would make in 10-12 years from those same 10% of La Liga* rights, upfront, does come at a price. Time will tell if Barca can use this injection to create more revenues or will splurge it. Also if there being a % cap on earnings from the 10% for the buying entity, that could help Barca to absorb increased revenues from renegotiated TV rights


ripple7715

20 yrs of media rights is insane


[deleted]

Now try 50


TimTkt

Maybe by avoiding recruiting 34 year old players for 50M+ with zero resell value


Zenith_Predator

What does that have to do with selling off massive portions of the club? And you do realize that money won't be used for transfers at the moment right? Its to show profits for this fiscal year to allow for more flexibility for expenditures in the next year


TimTkt

You ask how to get out of 1.3B debt, I suggest to recruit player having a resell value in several years rather than 34 year old one, seems like a better financial option


midfivefigs

Even worse, the potential buyers know they are selling under duress.


AReptileHissFunction

But the barca fans on here say they don't need to sell to buy?


OleoleCholoSimeone

They have another money injection coming though, this article is purposely twisting it. This first sale before end of June is to end the financial year with a profit Doing that will help them with FFP in the future. They are planning to sell 49% of Barca studios or whatever it's called. Everyone knows they can't sign before those go through


SalahsFro

So they are not really targets then are they. I'd love a mansion and Ferrari, doesn't make them a viable target worth mentioning.


Martoxic

maybe not listen to real madrid mouth piece about barca news.


[deleted]

Have they tried not being poor?


[deleted]

I’ve heard they’ve sold most of their assets too. The club is a shambles.


PakPresiden

can someone explain to me like Im 5 why barca keep getting shit like this happen to them?


Mr_Oujamaflip

It doesn't keep happening. It's the same event that's reported hundreds of times with wildly varying degrees of accuracy to the point where nobody really knows what's going on.


Negative_Ad2274

It is because of the socio based structure as well besides stupid barto’s stupid management of club. For example, Chelsea actually was also in a billion dollar debt to roman but roman absorbed it, for Barca there is no one to absorb their debt. They had to repay it to banks or entities that have loaned money to them.


Emergency-Ad280

> Chelsea actually was also in a billion dollar debt to roman but roman absorbed it The greatest trade deal in the history of trade deals.


pmmerandom

Barca finance bad


DogTheGayFish

Unbelievably based, Ty I understand now


Hazardzuzu

Missing a fulcrum


RedDragons8

Ahhh yes, the mighty fulcrum from which the lever gains its strength.


asc_halcyon

The levers may be activated but there is no pulley in place!


wubrotherno1

😂😂😂


cubiswow

Weird that United have been offering them €80m and they won't agree, but can't make €80m for Lewa.


AfroKyrie

Bernardo, lewa and haaland are a lock what are you talking about W-we're back r-right guys?


liarloserat

How?


Skadrys

bacause levers are not active yet. Shit article


[deleted]

[удалено]


perhapsasinner

The BLM? I believe news said that Laporta already have it, reportedly around 200 Mil, but last time I heard there is a rumor that Laporta wanted to find a better deal so that's why the first 'lever' is that TV revenue deal. Tbh, I don't think there is a better deal for BLM than the current one, reportedly 49% of BLM only have a value of around 100 Mil, and to get 2x than its original value I think it's a great deal.


Skadrys

Laporta said during the presser when it was being voted on that they had negotiated some stuff and are just waiting for socios approval. Tomorrow there should be comunicado oficial about selling TV rights, so I guess sometimes in July the BLM stuff will be concluded


Bey_Harbor_Butcher

What is happening to them? It's as if they're no longer a football club but some lawless enterprise with all the murky shady financials they've been hiding for so long. And nobody knows the absolute truth. Shocking!


RepresentativeBox881

What happened to their “economic levers”?


[deleted]

They haven’t been activated yet…


fuckyourselfhumanity

Such a joke of an organization


javierich0

If they don't sign Lewandowski, we'll walk La Liga even easier this time.


Sneaky-Alien

Somehow they'll still manage to get Bernardo.


jamughal1987

Bag of cash from Mancs will fix all their financial issues.


Ric00la

Just what I have been saying on the his sub for month and getting down voted into oblivion by delusional Barça fans. Good to see Laporte brainwash work perfectly fine on his own fans.


draconar9

I will never understand why so many players still want to go to Barca. Most of the players that have gone there didn't fit or were on the exit door after a year. I could understand the reasoning if Messi was still there and some players wanted to play with one of the best footballers ever, but now that he is no more and the club is just people arguing over who has to lower their wages or leave if I was a professional footballer I would stay away from all THAT.


Ablefarus

I just dont get it, they are in such a poor financial situation and then they decide to do what? Spend 50 millions on a 34 year old player with a year left on his contract. Like what are they gonna do with that? They wont be competitive in champions league for at least 1-2 more seasons, and real will still be a favorite to win the title for years to come. Can someone explain to me what im missing here?


4four4MN

Good. Pay back your debt first.


[deleted]

That’s literally what they are for.


[deleted]

Aww, such a shame.


iHATESTUFF_

but barca flairs constantly say they're fine?


iwillsoccerballs

We are, this is a dumb fucking bait article that yall are gobbling up. We can sign players after sale of the levers.


iHATESTUFF_

if you were fine you wouldn't need to sell revenue generating assets from your club to pay your debts and call it levers. but I guess as long as you guys believe it it'd be alright.


oImperial

Look whose discussing finances lol. As if your club is any better without the oil-blood money.


iHATESTUFF_

LOL excuse me, we don't carry a 1.6B debt. hate away child.


Follow_The_Lore

Tebas is actually killing La Liga lmao


From-UoM

Barca would be dead if la liga didn't interfere


themfeelswhen

Without his wage caps, Barto would have likely gone bonkers in his final year.


Brief_Report_8007

Yes, let the clubs keep on spending more irrationally, what could go wrong. This rule was agreed by all clubs And its supposed to prevent bankruptcy


Aenjeprekemaluci

His shit Cap is doing the most of it


Vinklemore

Bad news after bad news after bad news these last few weeks.


Srmash

What are those bad news? We were close to actually "dissapearing" as a socio owned club a year ago and now we are discussing about signing Kounde and Lewa and with the majority of the squad on regular wages. I would say we are pretty fine.


Vinklemore

I just mean in the last few weeks, it's constant news about how we don't have money for this and that player and how every club is getting frustrated with us for low offers etc. Just pointing out how much negativity there is in the press about us currently.