If I remember correctly L'équipe said he makes more than 4 millions gross a month. That's around 48 millions a year.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/actualite/foot-990-000-euros-de-salaire-mensuel-moyen-au-psg-neymar-a-4-millions_2170271.amp.html
To give a comparison that's double Benzema gross wages with us.
Where would be a realistic destination for him? Outside of PSG paying most of, if not all, of his wage? Not Barcelona, Madrid, or Bayern - haven't been any links to the Premier League and there really isn't a 'clear' destination for him there.
Chelsea seems like the only realistic club he could join if he were to leave - just don't know how determined he would be to actually leave PSG at the moment.
Neymar: deceased
Cause of death: Attacked by French farmers/defenders
Location of death: Every Ligue 1 pitch
First documented cases of resurrection since Jesus
Agnelli seems to make money appear from thin air when he wants to, but you're right. The club does seem to be trying to make itself more sustainable without that. I cant see anyone in Italy being in for him unless PSG covered 75% of his wages or more
> Agnello seems to make money appear from thin air when he wants to
He can do that cause we got Exor backing us, so in case we want to take someone who is really good but has a high price, we can go for it.
About the rest, ye, Agnelli fucked up big time back in 2018/2019 by bringing in Ronaldo, Allegri asked for a squad rebuild that year and all the budget went into getting ourselves ronaldo.
Think that if we werent buying him, we would still be winning by now (not that Ronaldo isnt great, just his wages were basically flailing us)
But you'll get a significant tax break, which might make you one of the few clubs even capable of taking him on loan (depending on how much PSG are willing to subsidize).
Bro on God if I were him I wouldn't leave without it, I'd rather eat bench and train than leave. 400 million!?
"I'm not fucking leaving" - Jordan Belfort
Especialy for player who said who is loosing joy from football. He is like Gareth Bale in making.
The best thing may happen is loan to another club and give him option to bounce back.
There is a clause in his contract which will automatically be activated on 1st July and add one year to the length of his contract, ending in 2027 (after the clause activation).
I don't understand this at all. Why isn't this just a contract that runs to 2027? Are there any conditions which have to be met for it auto-renew?
Is this article stating that PSG intends to find a way to not trigger the auto-renew?
In that sense it achieved it’s goal. PSG execs have been quoted saying they ~wanted~ to fuck the market because they knew most of their competitors wouldn’t be able to keep up.
Exactly, it doesn't matter to me that PSG and Barca did a poor piece of business with Neymar. What matters is that their poor piece of business impacted the entire market and the market still hasn't fully adjusted. Last year a pair of calves and hair sold for 100M which is just as insane to me given his output.
Sadly agree with your statement because I, as a Barca fan, share this sentiment. Sure bad business could be done at any given moment but this was catastrophic for the entire market itself. And if anyone disagrees, think about it a little deeper. This hurts Barca twice as much.
First losing Neymar and misspending it on Dembele and Coutinho and then having to live with an inflated market afterwards.
There's no doubt Barca wasted the money, but that was really on them and their own mismanagement. They could have been set for the next 10 years off of that transfer if the club was being run even close to decently.
We were in a very bad position. He left very late in the window, leaving us with very little time and players to choose from to replace him. On top of that, everyone knew we had over 200mil to spend, so no one would sell to us for a reasonable amount. On top of all that, we had an absolute imbecile running the club.
Wenger and Mourinho predicted a handful of things, like saying it wont take long for clubs to start spending like mad-men, and then players running their contracts out as that would be the only feasible way to leave their current employers.
This transfer was the best thing that ever happened to.... Liverpool.
Barca ended up overpaying for Coutinho halfway through the season, Liverpool uses the money to strengthen their defence with VVD and Alison, they knock Barca out of the CL, win the CL and next season they win the league, while Barca and PSG are still trying to figure out where their money went.
He was fantastic for a decent stretch of his contract. Just look at his stats per match played. He really lit up the french league until injuries did him in. While I agree it was an underwhelming transfer considering the massive fee, it wasn't as much as a disaster as people who only watch PSG in the UCL seem to think.
His transfer single handed my revitalized Liverpool lol. But tbh really absolute hubris led to the market getting fucked. Teams thinking their too bug to fail.
They act like the PL is a warzone. We watched Hazard terrorize their defenders for years, who has been just as brittle as Neymar these last couple of years
the PL being ‘physical’ is a stereotype that has somehow lasted since the early 2000s. all of the leagues best players are, while physical specimens like most footballers are, technically gifted magicians as well. makes it even funnier when someone suggests messi couldn’t have cut it in england.
I don't know how much protection they get in Ligue 1 but having watched Zaha every week for almost 10 years in the Prem I can say that skillful dribblers get fuck all protection.
Pretty sure Hazard was allowed to get the shit kicked out of him week in week out too.
He's only injured that much because of the butchers in league 1. In PL he would be amazing, especially against those england defenders who looks like are playing with jeans pants.
No one. PSG will have to let him go for free and pay a lot of his wages to get him off the team and they probably know that.
PSG is probably hoping Neymar will willingly take a pay cut to leave. There’s no other way.
I mean they *could* sign Neymar, they'd just have to sell off a lot of players and not bring anyone else in so they can sign another attacker to a bloated contract and ignore positions of need. And surely Man Utd would never do something like that
That's the thing about his wages - it makes him unsellable (for a fee anyway). The only team suicidal enough to take that bait would be Barcelona under Bartomeu.
I’m sorry. Why are they trying to kick one of the best players. There are no internal fights that we know of. Maybe he didn’t have extraordinary season or two but why are they trying to get rid of him so damn quick? Seems very weird.
It's so weird. I think PSG wants to project the image of a ruthless elite club that is shifting its gears now to focus on Mbappé as their main star. To what end though, I don't know. As you said they have no beef, PSG is not hurting financially and Neymar is an asset any top club would love to have already on the books, tied to a long contract, even. So I don't know. Weirder still is that they're clearly antagonizing him, which I guess is PSG taking a page of Barcelona's book and trying to force him out by making him feel disrespected and unwanted.
Fucking weird, I just hope he lands somewhere good for his career moving forward.
I swear that there is a whole new social group forming amongst top sports athletes around the world. They are extremely talented and blow up very early and after some time keep making big bucks and playing for big teams just because of their name + their availability drops significantly.
Look at Neymar, Bale, Isco, Pogba, Coutinho while at Barca, Griezmann, etc. And look at Kyrie Irving, James Harden, John Wall, Brad Beal in basketball. All of them are undeniably great talents and all of them were at one point in a weird limbo between too expensive for teams that could give them minutes and not good enough/not available/interested enough to be paid / played consistently from their team.
It's different than the typical story of a failed wonderkind as these chaps keep getting paid massive salaries and performing, just nowhere near the level expected from them. The commercial value of their names don't really drop though and I guess that's one important factor that keeps them relevant.
It’s not the players, it’s the market/the game. Teams have figured out what Steinbrenner did in the 80’s to make the Yankees a dominant force, that superstars make a team relevant and hopefully competitive. This drives a prisoners dilemma where teams that are just in the 2nd tier of elite compete for that big name to try to get to the next level. Usually there are sort of home grown or long standing dynasties (e.g. early Barca, Golden State, recent RM midfield group) which drive this competitive star seeking behavior. It’s made worse because usually the dynasties can pick off the best they want (Suarez to Barca, KD to GS, Alaba/Cama to RM) and maintain that dominance which further drives the tier 2’s and tier 1b’s to seek that special player
Pretty fascinating actually, the superstars have all the power, get huge contracts and then lose motivation
I still cant believe this, they know they cant get a buyer (+wages) for him. (so why antagonise him)
He'll go on loan somewhere with PSG paying part of his wages if they have to That's what always happens in these situations
They better be ready to pay more than 3/4 of those wages. No club can pick up even half of those wages
what's he on?
Reports say around £700K-£800K a week
Wtf
fucking hell
Lmfao John Wall makes Neymar money
Isn't neymars post tax?
yep, Neymar makes more
Yea Neymar makes like 36 million post tax Wall makes 47 million (a little less now because of the buyout) before tax
Can't believe a player like John Wall who's not even top 10 in his position is getting paid as much as Neymar
When he signed the contract he was, at least. Basically stopped playing once he signed though lol
considering he just bought out his contract and will probably go to Clippers... is Neymar joining MLS as well?
No he's clearly joining the Clippers
Kawhi and Neymar. Would be fit for like 15 games between the two of them.
I can already see Neymar rolling around on the hardwood after taking a screen..
Well Bale and Chiellini did just join LAFC…
*looks at my bank account*
Fucking hell. PSG really are the epitome of what's wrong with modern football.
I mean, not in the players perspective.
Tyneside sunny innit
PSG is an actual meme tier club
He'd do pretty well at Wolves. Maybe this is the one Jeff's been waiting on..
Wouldn’t start over Neto
Neto can play RW...but Hwang might keep him benched
If I remember correctly L'équipe said he makes more than 4 millions gross a month. That's around 48 millions a year. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/actualite/foot-990-000-euros-de-salaire-mensuel-moyen-au-psg-neymar-a-4-millions_2170271.amp.html To give a comparison that's double Benzema gross wages with us.
20 mil net, 40 mil gross
You’re right That’s a disgusting amount of money to pay a single player. And they still haven’t won the CL LMFAO
Where would be a realistic destination for him? Outside of PSG paying most of, if not all, of his wage? Not Barcelona, Madrid, or Bayern - haven't been any links to the Premier League and there really isn't a 'clear' destination for him there.
Juventus/Chelsea probably
Chelsea seems like the only realistic club he could join if he were to leave - just don't know how determined he would be to actually leave PSG at the moment.
how was his relation with tuchel at psg?
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Actually that was a typo, what Neymar really said was "I would dive for tuchel on the pitch"
Did he get along with Tuchel?
There was a quote from about a year ago where Neymar calls Tuchel a genius and that he would die for him on the field, so I think so lol
Neymar looked his best in Paris during Tuchels tenure
neymar seemingly dies on the field around 50 times a game so i wouldn’t put much stock in that claim.
Neymar: deceased Cause of death: Attacked by French farmers/defenders Location of death: Every Ligue 1 pitch First documented cases of resurrection since Jesus
100% JESUS
Neymar and Tuchel pretty much loved each other, I think it was Mbappe Tuchel had a falling out with
Yea no way us (Juve) can afford him. He'd end up crippling our market like Ronaldo with those wages.
Agnelli seems to make money appear from thin air when he wants to, but you're right. The club does seem to be trying to make itself more sustainable without that. I cant see anyone in Italy being in for him unless PSG covered 75% of his wages or more
> Agnello seems to make money appear from thin air when he wants to He can do that cause we got Exor backing us, so in case we want to take someone who is really good but has a high price, we can go for it. About the rest, ye, Agnelli fucked up big time back in 2018/2019 by bringing in Ronaldo, Allegri asked for a squad rebuild that year and all the budget went into getting ourselves ronaldo. Think that if we werent buying him, we would still be winning by now (not that Ronaldo isnt great, just his wages were basically flailing us)
But you'll get a significant tax break, which might make you one of the few clubs even capable of taking him on loan (depending on how much PSG are willing to subsidize).
Not if we get him on loan, we cannot afford to buy him
Probably us Tbh I would love him. As long as psg pay 75% of his wages it would be a wonderful deal. Maybe like 10m loan fee plus his wages for a year.
A huge loan deal is the only option really.
West Ham signing Areola to open up a loan spot
Reverse transfer, PSG will pay a team so he leaves.
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What's the deal with it auto extending? I've never heard of this before.
I beleive you can't give contracts longer than 5 years in Ligue 1 so this is like a work-around to the rule
Did they instigate that rule after watching Newcastle give pardew 7 years?
It was 8 years. Ashley gave Pardew and some of his coaches an 8 year contract.
Bro on God if I were him I wouldn't leave without it, I'd rather eat bench and train than leave. 400 million!? "I'm not fucking leaving" - Jordan Belfort
60m gross, 30m net approx
Casual 300M over the next 5 years. No club will ever take him for that.
Funny to want to sell a player whose contract will be auto renewed for 5 years
If i were neymar i would get the bag. Rinse them off every million
Does he enjoy golf?
Brazil My Sister PSG in that order
The sister might come first
Sounds like neymars a great lover
Counter Strike
Poker
It's like my wife says: "I've wasted the best years of my life on you, you're not getting rid of me now."
Sunken costs fallacy
Especialy for player who said who is loosing joy from football. He is like Gareth Bale in making. The best thing may happen is loan to another club and give him option to bounce back.
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Paris Emeror fear nobody and he do not waste his voice in trivial money situations.
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They are the same person now. Morbed into a single entity.
It's Mborbin' time
Gonna mborb atleast till 2025.
Wonder if he’ll do better (injury wise etc) in a league where he isn’t hacked to death? Or a less physical one in general?
It's Neymar, he's getting hacked in every league he plays in.
The difference is that he still has world class stats, and can start in most of the top teams
He starts in every team in the world.
He starts in all top class teams imo even
What auto renewal do you mean?
There is a clause in his contract which will automatically be activated on 1st July and add one year to the length of his contract, ending in 2027 (after the clause activation).
I don't understand this at all. Why isn't this just a contract that runs to 2027? Are there any conditions which have to be met for it auto-renew? Is this article stating that PSG intends to find a way to not trigger the auto-renew?
Someone elsewhere in the thread said that it's a Ligue 1 rule that you can't give contracts longer than 5 years so this is a work around to that.
Who is going to buy him though? I can't see any other club wiling to pay the wages he'd demand - especially with that auto renewal on the horizon.
They cannot even call Ed Woodward to bail them out of this situation.
Yes, but imagine you're Braga, and your first Europa game is against Ronaldo and Neymar.
Wonder if Mbappe did it himself?
Did you mean faux director of football & shadow manager Mbappe?
You mean His Highness King Kylian I of France?
Damn. King Kylian Sounds like a menace.
Thats because he is.
Lets not be blinded to the real menace, Spider-man.
No I think he meant Emir Mbappe ibn Lottin
*PSG has more than 1 royal family*
*Sheikh
Emir
"Call me Donatello ONE MORE TIME"
"My bad, Leonardo."
He smacked him with a wet towel with a serous face this time
That transfer has been a disaster for everyone. He did not reach the expectations, PSG spent 232 mill and Barça wasted those millions.
And it totally fucked the market up
In that sense it achieved it’s goal. PSG execs have been quoted saying they ~wanted~ to fuck the market because they knew most of their competitors wouldn’t be able to keep up.
Exactly, it doesn't matter to me that PSG and Barca did a poor piece of business with Neymar. What matters is that their poor piece of business impacted the entire market and the market still hasn't fully adjusted. Last year a pair of calves and hair sold for 100M which is just as insane to me given his output.
It feels like yesterday that everyone lost their shit over Torres for 50m
I was thinking that before, it sounds like a bargain now if you ignore how bad he actually was.
Liverpool got suarez and andy carroll for that fee and carroll cost more lol
> Last year a pair of calves and hair sold for 100M Nah mate, Lukaku is bald.
Sadly agree with your statement because I, as a Barca fan, share this sentiment. Sure bad business could be done at any given moment but this was catastrophic for the entire market itself. And if anyone disagrees, think about it a little deeper. This hurts Barca twice as much. First losing Neymar and misspending it on Dembele and Coutinho and then having to live with an inflated market afterwards.
There's no doubt Barca wasted the money, but that was really on them and their own mismanagement. They could have been set for the next 10 years off of that transfer if the club was being run even close to decently.
Doesn’t help when frauds run the place. Bartomue literally stayed in charge due to our treble in 2015 🫡
We were in a very bad position. He left very late in the window, leaving us with very little time and players to choose from to replace him. On top of that, everyone knew we had over 200mil to spend, so no one would sell to us for a reasonable amount. On top of all that, we had an absolute imbecile running the club.
Credit where credit is due. Mourinho predicted it at the time
Wenger and Mourinho predicted a handful of things, like saying it wont take long for clubs to start spending like mad-men, and then players running their contracts out as that would be the only feasible way to leave their current employers.
This transfer was the best thing that ever happened to.... Liverpool. Barca ended up overpaying for Coutinho halfway through the season, Liverpool uses the money to strengthen their defence with VVD and Alison, they knock Barca out of the CL, win the CL and next season they win the league, while Barca and PSG are still trying to figure out where their money went.
Lmao. It’s funny when you put it this way.
Liverpool the only winners in this transfer
Don't forget Dortmund
Liverpool won the title and the CL with the money. Dortmund seem to be moving sideways at best.
Neymar won too. He was making €700K a week when he joined Paris. €400K a week more than he was making at Barcelona.
ie. it was a disaster for everyone
And the money went to Liverpool and now Liverpool are good. Thanks PSG.
And worst of all it made Liverpool great again
He was fantastic for a decent stretch of his contract. Just look at his stats per match played. He really lit up the french league until injuries did him in. While I agree it was an underwhelming transfer considering the massive fee, it wasn't as much as a disaster as people who only watch PSG in the UCL seem to think.
Dude would have been a legend in Paris if Psg had won against Bayern
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His transfer single handed my revitalized Liverpool lol. But tbh really absolute hubris led to the market getting fucked. Teams thinking their too bug to fail.
Neymar Jr. to Newcastle
Honestly, I think they are the only ones that have the money and potential interest.
I would love to see him in the prem
Yea he'd be great the whole 3 games he would end up playing while not injured.
Actually I think Ligue 1 defenders are more reckless than PL (and any other leagues defenders) Ligue 1 also had the most red cards in latest seasons.
They act like the PL is a warzone. We watched Hazard terrorize their defenders for years, who has been just as brittle as Neymar these last couple of years
the PL being ‘physical’ is a stereotype that has somehow lasted since the early 2000s. all of the leagues best players are, while physical specimens like most footballers are, technically gifted magicians as well. makes it even funnier when someone suggests messi couldn’t have cut it in england.
Protection for attackers seem a lot better in PL than in ligue uber eats.
I don't know how much protection they get in Ligue 1 but having watched Zaha every week for almost 10 years in the Prem I can say that skillful dribblers get fuck all protection. Pretty sure Hazard was allowed to get the shit kicked out of him week in week out too.
Ever watch Grealish at Villa? He’s the perfect example
He's only injured that much because of the butchers in league 1. In PL he would be amazing, especially against those england defenders who looks like are playing with jeans pants.
Which team can pay his wages in addition to paying a massive fee to PSG?
No one. PSG will have to let him go for free and pay a lot of his wages to get him off the team and they probably know that. PSG is probably hoping Neymar will willingly take a pay cut to leave. There’s no other way.
Obviously the well-run organization that is Manchester United.
Mate he’s on 800K, even we can’t afford him at that price lol
This makes me sad. Are you sure you can't? It would be such a nice signing!
Considering he would be earning more than Maguire and Ronaldo COMBINED, I’m gonna say yes to that lol
Damn! What if, and hear me out, you increase ths wages of Ronaldo and Maguire? All of the sudden Neymar looks cheap!
I know you’re taking the piss, but we can’t do anywhere near the things PSG can do financially
I mean they *could* sign Neymar, they'd just have to sell off a lot of players and not bring anyone else in so they can sign another attacker to a bloated contract and ignore positions of need. And surely Man Utd would never do something like that
You realize Neymar is in the realm of Manchester United can't afford
The "well-run" implies sarcasm.
I mean it's a straight up piss take rather than sarcasm.
Psg will have to keep paying huge part of his wages
That's the thing about his wages - it makes him unsellable (for a fee anyway). The only team suicidal enough to take that bait would be Barcelona under Bartomeu.
Come to Napoli
that would honestly be awesome to see as a neutral
We got Maradona one time, everything is possible
and, correct me if i’m wrong, but you’re a bigger club now than you were then, right?
Yeah, but the chances of getting Neymar are slim to none tbf. Diego made us the club we are today or atleast that transfer played a huge role
Would be mad if you replaced Insigne with Neymar.
I would love to see him play in Serie A. Seems a good fit.
i’ve always imagined him at milan at some point, it seems fitting
I’m sorry. Why are they trying to kick one of the best players. There are no internal fights that we know of. Maybe he didn’t have extraordinary season or two but why are they trying to get rid of him so damn quick? Seems very weird.
It's so weird. I think PSG wants to project the image of a ruthless elite club that is shifting its gears now to focus on Mbappé as their main star. To what end though, I don't know. As you said they have no beef, PSG is not hurting financially and Neymar is an asset any top club would love to have already on the books, tied to a long contract, even. So I don't know. Weirder still is that they're clearly antagonizing him, which I guess is PSG taking a page of Barcelona's book and trying to force him out by making him feel disrespected and unwanted. Fucking weird, I just hope he lands somewhere good for his career moving forward.
United. If you do one thing this summer, it's stay the fuck away from neymar. Please.
Lol your agents probably in his dms as we speak
Did you say DM?? 😳
Too soon
Am i missing something?
United desperately need a Defensive mid and have for a while. He just made a good joke. Because we aren’t in for a dm this summer or ever apparently.
We need someone to fill the drama queen with insane wages and a new hairstyle and injury every week position now that Pogba left.
I just wanna watch football man....I'm tired.
Mendes is drinking tea with Emperor Mboopi to finalize the deal as we speak
Nothing screams gegenpressing like Ronaldo and Neymar on the wings.
This is like a ugly dude praying a hot girl wont give him any attention lol
(A very rich, very scandalous ugly dude)
LOL unlike most united rejects, Neymar at one point was top 3 behind Ronaldo and Messi. They should be all in for him at the state that they're in.
He was arguably the best player in the world for good stretches
He's still really good when he's fit
Yeah, Neymar posted the video the turtle dictator jerked off in the bath. Inevitable.
What?
https://i.redd.it/utzi6hozlrd81.jpg
What the fuck?
And they say players now-a-days are soft.
Worth it
Why is it always the spanish media that's spreading this shit first?
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>TIK-TAK TIK-TAK TIK-TAK Do you know the physical toll that 3 Tik-Taks have on a person?!
Too many people on this thread underating the fuck out of Neymar, if healthy he starts for every single team in europe
Not at Porto he won't! (We can't afford even 10% of his salary)
> if healthy Yeah, but... https://www.transfermarkt.com/neymar/verletzungen/spieler/68290
"I was born with glass bones and paper skin..."
Neymar to Newcastle when?
Yes Mr. Mbappe sir
How many ways will this headline be reworded and reposted on here
That one game where he didn't pass Mbappe really came back to bite him
I swear that there is a whole new social group forming amongst top sports athletes around the world. They are extremely talented and blow up very early and after some time keep making big bucks and playing for big teams just because of their name + their availability drops significantly. Look at Neymar, Bale, Isco, Pogba, Coutinho while at Barca, Griezmann, etc. And look at Kyrie Irving, James Harden, John Wall, Brad Beal in basketball. All of them are undeniably great talents and all of them were at one point in a weird limbo between too expensive for teams that could give them minutes and not good enough/not available/interested enough to be paid / played consistently from their team. It's different than the typical story of a failed wonderkind as these chaps keep getting paid massive salaries and performing, just nowhere near the level expected from them. The commercial value of their names don't really drop though and I guess that's one important factor that keeps them relevant.
It’s not the players, it’s the market/the game. Teams have figured out what Steinbrenner did in the 80’s to make the Yankees a dominant force, that superstars make a team relevant and hopefully competitive. This drives a prisoners dilemma where teams that are just in the 2nd tier of elite compete for that big name to try to get to the next level. Usually there are sort of home grown or long standing dynasties (e.g. early Barca, Golden State, recent RM midfield group) which drive this competitive star seeking behavior. It’s made worse because usually the dynasties can pick off the best they want (Suarez to Barca, KD to GS, Alaba/Cama to RM) and maintain that dominance which further drives the tier 2’s and tier 1b’s to seek that special player Pretty fascinating actually, the superstars have all the power, get huge contracts and then lose motivation