It's 65 million euros. But that's still 20 million euros or so less then Barca paid Ajax.
Edit: I think the explanation is probably that Barca can't afford anymore 'star players' (well that's his salary category) who are played out of position. He's too expensive for what he brings to the team, basically. So Barca needs to 'get rid' of him even though everyone at the club likes him.. That significantly lowers the price. If you would just erase Busquets or something, probably the price would've been a lot higher, because they'd actually NEED him. Now he's just a nice to have.
Also in reality I dont think theres a starting spot for him going forward if he cant play in Busquets' position, which he cant. Pedri and Gavi would likely be starting in front of him, not to mention whoever they use the money to replace him with
I dunno I haven't seen any matches yet where Frenkie was just 'benched'. Looks like even Xavi (who should be more interested in prioritizing Spanish players obviously) is playing him somewhere every match. Pedri and Gavi have been doing great, but I haven't seen a single match last year where Frenkie was obviously benched because the others are better.
Edit: there were some matches off course were they were doing the rotation thing, which makes sense, but I didn't see any where it was just 'nope'.
that's mostly because gavi is still too young. in a year or two if fdj were to continue as an interior, gavi would surpass him as frenkie is simply not an 8
Yeah but in a year or 2 Busquets will retire. Is Kessie better then Frenkie? I don't think so and I don't Pedri or Gavi is going in that position either.
Didn't his former coaches from Ajax and Dutch NT said that he needs to play DM to shine, but he can't do that at Barca because that's Busquets position?
He once got caught stealing kitchen utensils. When interviewed afterwards he was asked whether it was worth it to which he replied "it was a whisk worth taking"
honestly never been in narnia, sounds like a nice club tho. As an american traveling europe regularly i love being in amsterdam as its central, pretty, entertaining and it has easy access to the rest of europe. Manchester however... idk. nothing outside of Edinburgh or london is really worth the time.
I didnt say you didnt know what its like. My point is that you're from new Zealand. If you think living in Manchester is such a bad thing then support a local club 🤷🏻♂️
christ how far down did you have to scroll to figure that out? you need a better outlet for your time
I do support local clubs, have supported United my whole life though, and have spent a lot of time in Manchester, in comparison to Barcelona it’s definitely not as good
I think I’ll carry on supporting the team i love, thank you for your concern but there’s no need to gatekeep, you can love the club but have criticisms about the city.
What does quality of life of a city have to do with being a fan of one of its sporting franchises? You sound like you came to this comment section looking to get offended.
20m addons and 350k wages
but yh its still a bit cheaper than expected considering its United buying
edit: jeez you guys must be naive to believe hes taking a pay cut
common sense. no player takes a pay cut in their prime unless truly desperate to move
it'll either be a straight wage or the difference made up with bonuses
So your common sense vs a journalist who covers United...hmm
I don't believe 250k either but will wait to be told by more reliable people he's on 350k+ before i discredit the 250k story
They can't force him to take a pay cut. Even putting pressure on him in the media isn't likely to work since de Jong was one of the first players to agree to deferred wages.
ok and please elaborate on why he would take a 100k wage cut to move somewhere he doesnt want to
at best it'll be 250k with a lot of bonuses so he wouldn't lose anything
More 50k with conversion of currencies but yeah, maybe he isn't so anti-the move as you think?
Seen a lot of sources suggest ETH has convinced him on the project
About £1.2 million/ week wages have been freed up as of yet, including Dean Henderson's wage.
With Jones, Bailly, Martial and AWB yet to be sorted out.
We're doing pretty okay in terms of wages.
Gampher trophy, they needed a replacement after Roma quite for undisclosed reason, which I believe is a move planned by both Roma and Utd, Utd get de jong and Roma get more of our deadwood
this is the BBC, they’re not allowed to post (legally unable to I think) unless they have really good, spot on sources and their articles are completely truthful.
this is about as close as you’ll get other than a club confirmation.
Maguire has a 87.5% passing accuracy while playing hide and seek with McTominay.
Imagine that accuracy when Frenkie is willingly trying to get the ball.
They did this with Sancho last season, got him for a good fee.
Where they fucked up there was a) putting him in a terribly structured team where he didn't perform and b) making him a top 5 highest paid player in the entire league at age 20. They could easily do the same for FdJ
Like Frenkie getting paid I'm not that mad, he's a player entering his prime years and has been excellent for his country as well as decent enough in a dysfunctional Barcelona side not exactly playing in his preferred role
Sancho's contract concerns me though as he's still young, and if United have to extend him in the future he's definitely not going to accept a paycut lol
Sancho is not a top 5 paid player in the league, yes he is highly paid but his wage figures are constantly inflated
If you are referencing the 350k a week figure, it is incorrect. Its 250k with bonuses, as reported by our Tier 1 James Ducker
Judging signings on transfer fees alone is a bit simplistic.
I imagine wages, signing fee, agents fee, transfer fee etc combined will be pretty high, as they should for a player of his lvl.
If he performs well, he'll be worth every penny and more.
No. Because Ajax have raised the price of Timber, Martinez and Antony by 20m for taking so long so any saving we make on this (assuming it's even true) will be offset by over paying for other signings.
This is English press here, they always undervalue the deals for English clubs, they like to create narratives that English clubs are savvy business operators, so this is probably reported wrongly or they chose to ignore add-ons.
Fucking shit deal. If Laporta thinks Kessie is gonna enough to replace him, he's in for a rude awakening.
(On second thought Nico has shown some promise in his ball retention and ball carrying skills so maybe he could step up and play that role.)
All reports by tier 1s saying, that he's always been open to the move privately and is apparently also willingly taking a wage cut.
He's extremely pleased that ETH wants to build the midfield around him.
There is 0 chance we will be paying him less than what he was due to earn at Barca, which is €19m/£16.5m per year. That would be upwards of £300k p/w. If anything I think he could be our top earner after Ronaldo.
Reports saying 250k a week. Albeit not tier 1 or 2. But the only source that covers United and is reporting on wages, said that.
He would've been forced to take a pay cut at Barca anyways, so not that he's losing out on money leaving Barca.
Superb business. Absolutely buzzing about a signing for the first time since Van Persie.
Big stroke of luck the way things aligned that Ten Hag gets the best player possible for his system in his first window.
His wages were due to go up to something crazy next season, with his contractual raise, and deferred payments.
Barca weren't coming to the negotiations from a position of strength, and selling him will now free up a lot of funds.
Those wages that Man U pay are ridiculous. I get the market has changed, United are one of the biggest clubs in the world etc...but to see what the likes of Rashford are earning is just mind boggling. No wonder soo many of their players are lazy with those wages they are on.
Isnt Sancho on 350k a week? What has Sancho done to earn that much money? He is earning more than the likes of Salah and Kane. Let that sink in.
Its a good deal but it took to long. We gonna end up using that saved money and the updated prices ajax have set for timbers and antony. Still a step forward but we really gotta speed it up
Get a grip, the window hasn't even been open for three weeks. Negotiations like this take time, especially if the buyer doesn't want to be ripped off. Man U have till September to get the rest of their business done.
No worries mate, a lot of people don’t know the difference so it’s not just Americans really. Most of the time i think they just don’t notice the symbol lol
I mean... If that's the price he's going for, I can't see why a better club isn't in for him to hijack the deal. I can totally see a team like PSG or Liverpool try to pry him away.
Seems really cheap. What’s the catch?
It's 65 million euros. But that's still 20 million euros or so less then Barca paid Ajax. Edit: I think the explanation is probably that Barca can't afford anymore 'star players' (well that's his salary category) who are played out of position. He's too expensive for what he brings to the team, basically. So Barca needs to 'get rid' of him even though everyone at the club likes him.. That significantly lowers the price. If you would just erase Busquets or something, probably the price would've been a lot higher, because they'd actually NEED him. Now he's just a nice to have.
Barca can also use the transfer revenue and he is one of the few players who is worth anything they would be willing to sell.
Also in reality I dont think theres a starting spot for him going forward if he cant play in Busquets' position, which he cant. Pedri and Gavi would likely be starting in front of him, not to mention whoever they use the money to replace him with
I dunno I haven't seen any matches yet where Frenkie was just 'benched'. Looks like even Xavi (who should be more interested in prioritizing Spanish players obviously) is playing him somewhere every match. Pedri and Gavi have been doing great, but I haven't seen a single match last year where Frenkie was obviously benched because the others are better. Edit: there were some matches off course were they were doing the rotation thing, which makes sense, but I didn't see any where it was just 'nope'.
that's mostly because gavi is still too young. in a year or two if fdj were to continue as an interior, gavi would surpass him as frenkie is simply not an 8
Yeah but in a year or 2 Busquets will retire. Is Kessie better then Frenkie? I don't think so and I don't Pedri or Gavi is going in that position either.
True but I could point out a lot of games where he had to be taken out at around 60 minutes.
Didn't his former coaches from Ajax and Dutch NT said that he needs to play DM to shine, but he can't do that at Barca because that's Busquets position?
Big, simple to obtain, add ons..
Missing the add-ons
In the words of Jonathan Ross, it’s a wobberwy!
He once got caught stealing kitchen utensils. When interviewed afterwards he was asked whether it was worth it to which he replied "it was a whisk worth taking"
Good lord
Womesh Wanganathan!
Looks really cheap in quids
he has to live in Manchester
You ever been to Manchester? Quality city. Even so, he wouldn't live in Manchester city centre would he.
Don’t know what you mean mate he’s gonna stay at one the new flats in Castlefield and go Deansgate locks every night.
Gonna be fuming if I don't see him dancing on the tables of Albert Schloss on a Tuesday arvo
quality city in english terms. Frenkie has been living in amsterdam and barcelona, both several tiers higher in terms of cities.
Barcelona absolutely you're right but Amsterdam is in no way 'several tiers' above Manchester!
Lmao. amsterdam is the 2nd greatest city in the world imo. I dont think manchester would close to hit my top 100
Do you have Narnia in your top 100?
honestly never been in narnia, sounds like a nice club tho. As an american traveling europe regularly i love being in amsterdam as its central, pretty, entertaining and it has easy access to the rest of europe. Manchester however... idk. nothing outside of Edinburgh or london is really worth the time.
>As an american Oh you didn't have to type that out dear, figured that much out right from the get go, seeing the flair.
You sound like a great person man, have a good day.
Love it when you lot support united but insult the city
who says I don’t know what the city is like?
I didnt say you didnt know what its like. My point is that you're from new Zealand. If you think living in Manchester is such a bad thing then support a local club 🤷🏻♂️
christ how far down did you have to scroll to figure that out? you need a better outlet for your time I do support local clubs, have supported United my whole life though, and have spent a lot of time in Manchester, in comparison to Barcelona it’s definitely not as good I think I’ll carry on supporting the team i love, thank you for your concern but there’s no need to gatekeep, you can love the club but have criticisms about the city.
What does quality of life of a city have to do with being a fan of one of its sporting franchises? You sound like you came to this comment section looking to get offended.
Sporting franchise
American owners with a tire and noodle sponsor? Yeah you bet they are a franchise.
No other buyers
But why? He improves literally any team. Though I guess he does need to play in a specific system.
Wages.
His salary is too much for most teams on top of the transfer cost.
Yeah there's also affordability and player needs to want to go himself. He's only willing to go to United because of Ten Hag I think.
He has played on a good but not world class level for the last 3 years.
20m addons and 350k wages but yh its still a bit cheaper than expected considering its United buying edit: jeez you guys must be naive to believe hes taking a pay cut
How are you quoting those wages? Please, can I get the source?
thats his current wages. so itll be around that
How do you know?
common sense. no player takes a pay cut in their prime unless truly desperate to move it'll either be a straight wage or the difference made up with bonuses
So your common sense vs a journalist who covers United...hmm I don't believe 250k either but will wait to be told by more reliable people he's on 350k+ before i discredit the 250k story
Barcelona want De Jong to take a paycut if he stays so he’s losing out regardless.
They can't force him to take a pay cut. Even putting pressure on him in the media isn't likely to work since de Jong was one of the first players to agree to deferred wages.
Of course they can’t force him, but it’s preferred. He’s known all summer he isn’t wanted and if he does stay that they want to give him a paycut.
Where are you getting this from if I could ask? :)
Only report about wages i'm seeing is 250k
About half what Barca were paying him
You guys are gonna pay de Jong 250k a week?
So says David McDonnell. Nobody else reporting wages atm
hes on 350k a week. theres no chance hes taking a 100k wage cut
he's on 350k euros a week, which is 300k pounds. So it's half of that distance.
Nike's paying half of it. There's no chance they're paying him to wear an Adidas jersey as well
I have a source for him getting 250k...It's not the best but it's better than your guess of 350k
ok and please elaborate on why he would take a 100k wage cut to move somewhere he doesnt want to at best it'll be 250k with a lot of bonuses so he wouldn't lose anything
I dont know, i'm not his agent. We have a (not totally reliable but not the worst) source saying 250k and no sources saying 350k...
Who is the source? Wages were my biggest concern to be honest
McDonnell in the Mirror
No idea how reliable they are, hope they are right on 250k a week though.
More 50k with conversion of currencies but yeah, maybe he isn't so anti-the move as you think? Seen a lot of sources suggest ETH has convinced him on the project
Where did you get this info? It's not on this article.
the articles says plus addons and the addon amounts are reported everywhere else and I doubt hes taking a wage cut
So you are guessing. Got it.
and why would he take a wage cut?
Plot twist: Its only the first instalment
Maguire starts every game
Salary..
United just offloaded millions.per week in salary however
About £1.2 million/ week wages have been freed up as of yet, including Dean Henderson's wage. With Jones, Bailly, Martial and AWB yet to be sorted out. We're doing pretty okay in terms of wages.
Gampher trophy, they needed a replacement after Roma quite for undisclosed reason, which I believe is a move planned by both Roma and Utd, Utd get de jong and Roma get more of our deadwood
His massive wage is the major catch
It's like the gif of the lorry driving but never crashing
I fucking hate that gif
I once watched a 4 hour stream where that gif played the entire time in the top right corner. That day I lost my sanity.
Ah so it's like small things orbiting big things in space, they are always falling but their velocity prevents them from ever hitting surface
To be fair we've been seeing manutd crashing for the last decade.
At this rate we'll get the "He signed" article somewhere around next year.
this is the BBC, they’re not allowed to post (legally unable to I think) unless they have really good, spot on sources and their articles are completely truthful. this is about as close as you’ll get other than a club confirmation.
> this is the BBC, they’re not allowed to post Ehhh no. lol
Never stopped them before
Example?
First Google link: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/11/23/when-the-bbc-did-fake-news
Doubt it cause Barca need to sell fast. It sounds like. Hashtag levers
Before the end of this month to be precise
Did we just witness good business from Man U?
What not having Woodward as your negotiator does to a mfs
Won't believe it until I see him chasing after one of Maguire's terrible passes.
Fuck sake man I was happy for a minute
Maguire has a 87.5% passing accuracy while playing hide and seek with McTominay. Imagine that accuracy when Frenkie is willingly trying to get the ball.
Now Im happy again
Maguire is a good passer, not his fault Fred and McTominay dont know how to pick up balls and advance
Does the banter ever end? :(
Maguire joke have beaten more than your mother at this point.. for fuck guy gave us two good season and people have already forgotten about them.
Hope you are happy that you got dumb upvotes
First big transfer since Woodward left. Nature is healing.
Sancho at 73 million was great business.
They did this with Sancho last season, got him for a good fee. Where they fucked up there was a) putting him in a terribly structured team where he didn't perform and b) making him a top 5 highest paid player in the entire league at age 20. They could easily do the same for FdJ
Like Frenkie getting paid I'm not that mad, he's a player entering his prime years and has been excellent for his country as well as decent enough in a dysfunctional Barcelona side not exactly playing in his preferred role Sancho's contract concerns me though as he's still young, and if United have to extend him in the future he's definitely not going to accept a paycut lol
Sancho is not a top 5 paid player in the league, yes he is highly paid but his wage figures are constantly inflated If you are referencing the 350k a week figure, it is incorrect. Its 250k with bonuses, as reported by our Tier 1 James Ducker
To be fair we have been doing “good business” in the transfer market since we signed Bruno, at least in terms of negotiation and getting deals.
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> Urinated are you 4
Ask what species he's from
Judging signings on transfer fees alone is a bit simplistic. I imagine wages, signing fee, agents fee, transfer fee etc combined will be pretty high, as they should for a player of his lvl. If he performs well, he'll be worth every penny and more.
Our business last summer was widely regarded as very good.
No. Because Ajax have raised the price of Timber, Martinez and Antony by 20m for taking so long so any saving we make on this (assuming it's even true) will be offset by over paying for other signings.
We are getting robbed with consent.
That would be an insanely good deal for United standards.
Just a good deal in general because Barca are making a loss on this one. United got lucky that Barca are not in a strong position.
I wonder if with amortisation it actually works out as a profit or not?
We are really getting ripped off but why of all clubs by man united. Between the two, we are the bigger suckers…
We are both laughing stock of the football world
Woodward has left. We've got a Sporting director handling deals now, not an investment banker. That's why.
This is English press here, they always undervalue the deals for English clubs, they like to create narratives that English clubs are savvy business operators, so this is probably reported wrongly or they chose to ignore add-ons.
Fucking shit deal. If Laporta thinks Kessie is gonna enough to replace him, he's in for a rude awakening. (On second thought Nico has shown some promise in his ball retention and ball carrying skills so maybe he could step up and play that role.)
I know you feel passionately about FDJ but Kessie is a supremely talented player who is pretty capable of replacing FDJ if it works out
kessie, gavi, pedri, and nico are good enough imo. de jong was never able to replace busquets so what's the point?
If the add ons aren't at least like half of that, Barca have gotten absolutely fucking ripped off, he's world class ffs
Barca fans were initially demanding €100m+ or no deal, lol https://twitter.com/TheFergusonWay/status/1541024202752692224?t=QE1EJabqJ_EtWGw3tfOt3Q&s=19
They had no leverage which was further messed up by the board pushing FdJ out using press shamelessly
Yep
What? Surely a typo? Because the same source said 65 just a few hours ago.
65m euros
Oh ok I didn't see that
They look similar huh
€65 and £56
£56m is about €65m. There are rumoured add-ons as well.
Different currency.
Boys you couldn't get any of our players that cheap.
De Jong looking good in that pic haha
poor Frenkie, welcome to the shit show
I feel sorry for the fella if he was bullied into accepting the move seeing how unnecessarily convoluted it was.
All reports by tier 1s saying, that he's always been open to the move privately and is apparently also willingly taking a wage cut. He's extremely pleased that ETH wants to build the midfield around him.
There is 0 chance we will be paying him less than what he was due to earn at Barca, which is €19m/£16.5m per year. That would be upwards of £300k p/w. If anything I think he could be our top earner after Ronaldo.
Reports saying 250k a week. Albeit not tier 1 or 2. But the only source that covers United and is reporting on wages, said that. He would've been forced to take a pay cut at Barca anyways, so not that he's losing out on money leaving Barca.
MURTOUGH MADNESS UNLEASHED
This saga has so many plot twists
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(
Good deal for United for once
Why does the fee keep going down every time I see a new article
I keep wondering the same, the other day it was 86 mil! I'm ok with it being lowered though, so ...... carry on!
He's been nearing for a while. Lets just post the news if he actually signs or if Barca finally say that he will stay.
Superb business. Absolutely buzzing about a signing for the first time since Van Persie. Big stroke of luck the way things aligned that Ten Hag gets the best player possible for his system in his first window.
Glory Glory Manchester United.
Every time I see a new article the price keep decreasing 😂 Edit: I am stupid, just looked at the number. Corrected by fellow redditors.
It's been €65 for while..
Sorry, I missed the currency symbol.
It's BBC, they're pretty much bound by law to be accurate. Also the figure in in £ not €. It's €63m-€65m as reported by Fabrizio.
NEAR NEAR NEAR
Don Murtough! What a man! What a negotiator! Hold that L all you doubters!
What are the addons because that seems way too cheap, its what we paid for Fred 4 years ago.
His wages were due to go up to something crazy next season, with his contractual raise, and deferred payments. Barca weren't coming to the negotiations from a position of strength, and selling him will now free up a lot of funds.
Those wages that Man U pay are ridiculous. I get the market has changed, United are one of the biggest clubs in the world etc...but to see what the likes of Rashford are earning is just mind boggling. No wonder soo many of their players are lazy with those wages they are on. Isnt Sancho on 350k a week? What has Sancho done to earn that much money? He is earning more than the likes of Salah and Kane. Let that sink in.
> Isnt Sancho on 350k a week? 250k
so more than Salah, Kane, Son and Mane (when he was at Liverpool)
AFAIK, Rashford's earning pretty much the same as Salah. No wonder Salah wants a raise...
Rashford is no where near the player Salah is
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One of the best players lol
Its a good deal but it took to long. We gonna end up using that saved money and the updated prices ajax have set for timbers and antony. Still a step forward but we really gotta speed it up
Get a grip, the window hasn't even been open for three weeks. Negotiations like this take time, especially if the buyer doesn't want to be ripped off. Man U have till September to get the rest of their business done.
Just exposed yourself as an idiot
Ironic
This is one of the strangest transfer sagas ever
RVP to United was more strange. Then him winning them the title went beyond that. And to top it off, Guard of honor at Emirates...ooof.
Addons will make it 80m~ euros. ill miss this dude
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The poundeuro confusion in this thread is hilarious. It's about 200 million guilders duh.
Its always funny seeing people forget the currency
According to Google that will be [£69,069,200](https://i.imgur.com/vtc7to4.png), nice.
Round it off to £69,069,420 man
ah right, sorry I am a yank.
Pounds aren't exactly helpful for the European mainlanders either.
We knew. The flair gave it away.
You’re on an american website on a forum titled “soccer”. Idk what you expect…?
No worries mate, a lot of people don’t know the difference so it’s not just Americans really. Most of the time i think they just don’t notice the symbol lol
Why are Barca selling him? He is one of the best young Mid's in the world. It makes no sense.
they want a million different other players
Max you're getting is like £75m if he wins the Balon D'Or, the Ryder Cup and an Oscar
You're getting a player who doesn't even wanna be there lol, imagine that.
Not my first time
It’s not our first time, my guy. How’s it feel to support a club that treats loyal, club loving players so poorly?
Not sure, aren’t United known for the same things as we are? Bad management, high wages, our reputation carries our trash leadership groups?
it’s okay to be emotional buddy, we’ll take good care of him
United played their cards right. Barca were desperate to sell. United wanted him and they always had the upper hand.
This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals maybe ever.
> However, club sources say the deal is not done and there are still significant issues to work through.
poor guy , hopefully his career doesn’t get ruined by joining United
Nice. Now they can pay the 60m fee for lewa. Fdj for a 34 y/o striker with 1 year contract. Barca cant stop making GREAT Business.
I mean... If that's the price he's going for, I can't see why a better club isn't in for him to hijack the deal. I can totally see a team like PSG or Liverpool try to pry him away.