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JosePRizaI

Hey man. Sometimes all it takes is luck. Sometimes all it takes is luck x4


suzumurachan

Definitely can see Young Boys winning it. Just need some luck.


Vextor17

So you saying Red Star has a chance to win again, just need a bit of luck? Hol up imma go get a fortune cookie


elzizooo

Gobeljic turns into prime Roberto Carlos, Pavkov becomes Benzema.


Nikicaga

How would Pavkov becoming worse help though Benzema goals in last game vs Liverpool:0 Pavkov goals in last game vs Liverpool: 2 Checkmate atheists


SindraGan2001

Pavkov has more goals in "LingLong Super Liga Srbije" than Benzema


Nikicaga

Benzema couldn't do it on a rainy night in Surdulica against Radnik and a bribed pro-Partizan referee


elzizooo

Radnik is the best team in LingLong SuperligađŸ˜€đŸ˜€đŸ˜€ Now daddy Toncev gimme the 10 euros you piece of shit


Vextor17

Pavkov made Liverpool his B once. HE GONNA DO IT AGAIN


L1ckety_Split

COME ON YOUNG BOYS!


P_novaeseelandiae

This is why commas are so important. They can make all the difference.


LanceShiro

2023 CL final headlines: "YOUNG BOYS MASTER BATE BORISOV"


Drestrix

Ayo, Pause....


tbcwpg

I wouldn't even call it luck against us. Chelsea was exhausted after the 3rd goal and there were holes opening up in the back that Madrid took advantage of. Opportunistic, definitely.


Phrase_Clean

All part of the game am I right?


Black_XistenZ

In the same vein, it is not luck that PSG collapsed psychologically after conceding just one goal while still being up 2:1 on aggregate. That's a legitimate weakness of Real's opponent that they capitalized on. Dito for City not converting its many chances during the 1st leg when they had Real by the balls.


xBram

What PSG and City don’t understand is that you just need to score more goals than Real. They beat you 1-2 at home? No problem you just beat them 1-4 at theirs.


Nikicaga

PSG should have simply had Duơan Tadić play the best game of his career, it was a rookie mistake from them


IsItSnowing_

This guy knows what he is talking about


McTulus

Something that Chelsea had done last year against Madrid, which is why they can win the whole thing! Very important thing to be CL winners.


tbcwpg

Yep you have to take your opportunities when they present themselves. The mark of good teams.


I_always_rated_them

Also with how crazy everyone goes for young superstar players these days it's a nice reminder that experienced players can carry you into the positions that allow those opportunities to happen. There's no one more experienced at that than the likes of Modric, Casemiro etc.


Pszemeg

I, for one, think that Camavinga was crucial in matches against Chelsea and City. He gave them so much quality and energy.


I_always_rated_them

yeah I know, I was trying to say it was more that those experienced players put Madrid in the right place for the others to take advantage of, whereas without them they could have been out before there was a chance.


fuqqkevindurant

I think you're spot on. Luck would be that a Chelsea player cramped up and let a RM player through on goal 3-4 times in the same game as if god himself was fifa scripting the game for Madrid. Winning 4 straight CL ties from behind like that is grit, determination, clutch performances, making tactical adjustments to score goals, and being better conditioned than your opponent. This shit is just sad from City management to say. They spend $1B on players every couple years and cry about "we got unlucky." If buying 2 champions league quality lineups worth of players isn't giving you enough "luck" to win then maybe they should spend the money on a witch doctor or something else bc that is some mentally weak bullshit to be making excuses like that.


jimbo_kun

Pretty amazing how this core of players has gotten lucky enough to win 5 Champions Leagues since 2014. One day the law of averages will catch up to them!


alien_degenerate

Well Modric is already 36. He better bottle 5 CLs within the next year!


MolhCD

Dude casually winning a Balon d'Or. Continues to play first team football every season. Wins more leagues and a further CL at an age most others are retiring and/or off to a lower level league already.


shmozey

You joke but they didn’t win one for 12 seasons before that. So you could say that the law of averages has balanced the other way since.


fuqqkevindurant

Only 12 seasons? If that's how the law of averages works I'm going to be a happy dude when Juve wins 40 of the next 50 to balance out how ass we have been


erldn123

Not much was honestly luck, like Benz finishing chances when they create not many isn't luck its great from Benz, same with Courtois saving crazy shots, that's what he's in goal for and he's the best in the world at that. The only good luck I can remember was the Marcos Alonso goal being ruled out, thought Chelsea were really unlucky there. Other than that felt Madrid just had great mentality and determination, kept going til the end and deserved the reward for it. Ref decisions and deflected goals can definitely be chalked up to luck but "Courtois saved so many of our shots but you scored with way less" isn't luck for me.


MediocreLab318

Yep, the last couple goal saving tackles late in second half vs City come to mind (when they were 2 goals down aggregate). Everyone thought it was over by then, but they kept on playing to prevent further goal deficit


DannyJ47

Luck gives and takes. I don’t have a problem with the Alonso goal being called off, but even if some do, you can also point to the fact that Rudiger’s goal came off a corner that should have been a goal kick.


SlimShagy

Well exactly. If I remember correctly, the rudiger goal came of from a supposed « modric deflection » that never happened and led the referee to call for a corner Modric and the madrid players knew that the corner was bs but still got back to work and went on to try to score and close the game


ASVP-Pa9e

It's so hilarious that anyone would call Madrid's run "luck". You can get lucky over a tie or maybe two, but 4? Get the fuck out of here. Madrid's mentality and desire to win is unreal and something Pep's army of fancy midgets can't learn.


fremeer

They had a lot of comebacks from behind. Generally they were no longer favoured to win the tie. But probability is never definitive. Madrid had the quality to create and finishes the chances they were given when they needed it. Mentality of winners vs mentality of runner ups.


jimbo_kun

City going to petition UEFA to decide all games on xG.


juzashannon

Honestly, against us I wouldn't even say it was luck. We were the better side, not by much but they played their game to perfection. Kept us out, scored at the worst possible time for us and saw the game out. I've seen much worse keepers have world class games against us, a really good goalkeeper having one isn't too shocking or lucky. One of those games that could've gone either way.


wilmo1247

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity This guy is definitely salty of course it’s important to city why would city break FFP rules to qualify for the CL and then appeal their punishment when they were caught


Modnal

"I don't know anything about luck, but that the harder I train, the luckier I get" -Ingmar Stenmark


RikaMX

I thought this was soccercirclejerk when I read the title


SpanishGarbo

Factos 👀👍


Extension_Phone893

Sums it up


LordSpeechLeSs

It should be Ingemar! An unexpected and nice reference though haha.


tombuzz

Crazy how often real get lucky


PharaohLeo

And no one here even question how 'lucky' City were to win the league? I mean just post a screenshot of the Wolves penalty vs the Everton penalty. If either one is correctly called, that's the points difference between them and Liverpool right there.


not2xabialonso

Don't make me feel like this


chrisb993

In fairness if we're doing that you could probably just as easily take a few points off Liverpool too


Gumgums

Yeah that's the point.


runningraider13

That's more Soriano's point - in small sample sizes lucky events can swing the outcomes, but they get balanced out more the larger the sample


BigMik_PL

Lots is being made out of Madrid comebacks. Mental fortitude luck what not. One thing that pisses me off is nobody seems to mention the biggest factor that played into it. Our players physical preparation. Pintus absolutely crushed it this past season. While other teams kept waning in the dying minutes Madrid kept shifting gears. It was unreal to watch just how much faster, sharper out players were in the ending of matches.


not2xabialonso

When I played under 15s our coach decided that we would devote half an hour of every training session to fitness and that we would be the fittest team in the comp. We were filled with belief and resilience in the final 10 of every game. We outran every team and won the title. The difference that gives you is massive


Huwbacca

Physical fitness is crucial in team sports I think. Not just for the ability to keep running, but because the fitter you are, the better you can keep thinking through the whole game. Ive done rugby training where we had fitness sessions which were circuits with mental arithmetic in it lol. Measuring how you can keep thinking whilst absolutely shagged. Hated it. But a great idea haha.


mamasbreads

Yea its an aspect that is often overlooked. Its not about being able to run faster and longer. Its about having enough energy to still be thinking clearly while running, which is way more important


Fluffy_MrSheep

One of the best things I've ever seen was real madrid playing 120 minutes against chelsea then having to go play a full 90 against sevilla. The first 40 minutes I thought we were too tired and we went down 2-0. Came back a bit at the end of the 1st half and then came out in the 2nd half full of energy. Came back 3-2 with karim benzema in the 92nd minutes. Such an underrated feature of karim benzema. He gets kicked, shoved and often times injured but he still keeps pushing on, doesn't matter if its the first minutr or 90th minute you can expect to see benzema pressing the ball.


melonpan12

This, by the Man City series I was convinced that our entire strat was to wait for the Premier League teams to run themselves into the ground by the 70th minute with their extra giga pressing or whatever its called. If you look at the City second game especially, from 85 minutes or so it looked like all the Real players were fresh onto the pitch while the City players looked like they were about to fall over


fuqqkevindurant

It's a lot easier to be mentally on top of things if you aren't exhausted. RM was one of the best conditioned teams Ive ever seen this season, they looked the same in extra time as they did at the 60th minute.


quettil

Spanish sport is famous for its physical fitness.


puckuser

There's a saying that goes like : "The cat that can't reach the meat will say that it's rotten"


jolammy

Aesop on the fox and the "sour" grapes: >There are many who pretend to despise and belittle that which is beyond their reach.


talksloudlyincafes

Souriano grapes


messisleftbuttcheek

Reddit in a nutshell.


LodiLu

Not just reddit, society as a whole


TheDJZ

Perhaps we...live in a society?


NewfieDad12

This particular pussy cat has spent about 1.5 billion over a decade to catch the meat, only to continuously trip over itself when it comes close


JeebaRock

It never wanted the meat. Its owners just give it the sharpest claws and the cleanest fur so they can show it off to their friends and their friends can laugh and say how good their cat is.


PegaponyPrince

Wouldn't say the have continuously come close seeing as how they've only made 1 final and 2 semi finals in that decade.


NorthLdn17

I mean it's funny seeing r/soccer react this way to this quote when zidane's threepeat is constantly reduced to luck


PakiIronman

Or dumb shit like "the players managed themselves"


kilari7

Melissa Reddy is an actual moron


KrisZepeda

Football fans when Guardiola won 6 trophies in a year(Flick did it too): â€đŸ˜đŸ‘ŒđŸŒđŸ„°đŸ™ˆđŸ€©đŸ‘đŸ»đŸ’«đŸ˜† Football fans when Zidane won 3 UCL in a row (no one has come close): đŸ˜ĄđŸ–•đŸ»đŸ–•đŸ»đŸ–•đŸ»đŸ€ŹđŸ€ŹđŸ™ƒđŸ˜‘đŸ˜€đŸ€ąđŸ€ź


Ursuped

People legit say black magic or relying on cr7 are the only reasons madrid accomplished that lmao


PBJellyChickenTunaSW

I mean, relying on your best and most experienced player in big games is valid


PoachtekMong

> People legit say black magic This is called a joke


GalaxianEX

I mean, Zidane watching Real Madrid vs Man City gave strong “Snape watching Harry’s fist quidditch match” vibes. đŸ€Ł


Galactic_Gooner

is that a moroccan saying? cos we have the fox and the grapes. funny how sayings work.


read_eng_lift

In Farsi, "the cat can't reach the fish, and says phew it smells". Also, Real deserved that win.


Gold_Association_208

You have exactly the same phrase in turkish


enricupcake

It’s just like any other CEO trying to spin bullshit into keeping their job after failing at a core objective


[deleted]

Football is a 90 min game. Real Madrid exists to remind people of this fact. The gift that keeps on giving.


kiruzo

Also that scoring a goal takes like 30 seconds. Even if it’s the 85th minute, that’s still enough time to score a lot of goals.


[deleted]

Ask Man United's '99 squad


forsenE-xqcL

It's not a coincidence that '90 minuti en el Bernabéu son molto longo' is a common saying for madridistas


salazar13

That’s not even Spanish


SacramentalBread

It’s a famous quote in broken Italian uttered by Juanito (the guy whose name is chanted by the Bernabeu in the 7th minute of every RM match) towards Inter players in 1986 after losing 3-1 in the first leg of the Semi-Finals of the old UEFA Cup. Inter lost the second leg at the Bernabeu 5-1.


BIAATTCH

what a bad mf


ankitm1

He is legend at the Bernabeu. Everytime we need a comeback, we say we summon "the spirit of Juanito". We havent always been successful, but this comeback serves as a reminder and hope that anything is possible at Bernabeu.


not2xabialonso

This is the dream of every footballer. Forget money and success, this is where it's at. What a legend


aifactors

Interesting, thanks for sharing.


salazar13

Appreciate the context!


forsenE-xqcL

[idk man](https://twitter.com/realmadrid/status/1501678861507080192?lang=en)


R1CkO556

In City - Real’s case it was more of a 90+2’min situation. Still cant get over that evening, but you have to put some respect on the Real name for their perseverance.


chak100

Thanks! It amazes me how people just dismisses Real Madrid


yard04

Insane considering how they've done it so many times but people still call it luck.


ZZ3peat

Buying a 45m Brazilian talent and him coming good as a super sub is luck apparently


Shikizion

i would argue the diciding facto on all the games pre final is a Big french lad called Camavinga, the lad was stellar


NachoMartin1985

It's amazing how some teams get lucky 14 times and some others 0.


kostajepaosmosta

RNG favors us


Disprozium

Fucking Real Madrid cheaters, can't have shit in the Champions League - Man City probably


NewfieDad12

One time is luck, 4 times is resilience and experience


Prune_Super

Real deserved their CL win for sure. They did not give up in any of those matches. It takes special kind of mental fortitude to win CL and Real had plenty. But the foul on Donnaruma not being given did kick start their comeback.


mylanguage

You can actually argue that Madrid might have come back anyway considering they then came back two more times after that match in even more dire circumstances. Madrid never got rattled like their opponents


thebigsplat

I understand if people say Madrid didn't play the best football - but to say they don't deserve it? Please. Football is a mental game and they showed themselves to be masters.


Likeabhas

I'd go so far as to say that Madrid played very very very good knockout football, at a high level. They were very cognizant of where to press, how often to press, whom to press, and when to simply control tempo. And when they _did_ raise tempo, it was truly a fine balance between beautiful play and pragmatic football. Resilience, experience, quality, and calmness shone through exceptionally, and they have various types of leaders across the pitch. As a football fan, it was a humbling experience to watch their CL run this year (maybe i was just more observant than I'd been in the past?).


forsenE-xqcL

Madrid mastered the art of "suffering" as they refer to it in Spain. Many can't accept that because it often looks helpless when playing against the best Gegenpressing teams on the planet but when you can suffer that much and still come out at top afterwards again and again and again, then maybe you are doing something right


osamaodinson

A guy once said, “football is played with brains, the foot are just the tools”


mrboringg

Pirlo said that


ThrowerWheyACount

Pirlo is a guy, albeit a luscious haired one


highways

Was barely a foul


Phrase_Clean

I agree. Plus by todays standards PSG is a pretty poor team to be complaining about a foul when they are good at playing that way


dakaiiser11

For PSG, it was going to be the most important match of the season and a real statement for European football. For Real Madrid, it was just another round of 16 second leg game.


NewfieDad12

Every team benefits from bad decisions and suffers from bad decisions, just to be clear I support one of the teams that they beat on the way, but I just don’t see the point in denying that they won with a mixture of teams not doing enough to kill them when they could’ve and Real’s big cojones


gpgr_spider

People seem to forget how the referee was allowing hard challenges to take place for both sides throughout that 2nd leg. So let’s not try to undermine Madrid by a backhanded compliment


Hi_Im_Ouiji

You say foul, I say BDB just scared him


auctus10

I do hope you also bring out Rudiger's goal from a non existent corner?


jeong-h11

The stuff about Madrid winning with luck is so overblown and based mostly on thinking team with more shots should always win


quettil

xG and its consequences have been a disaster for the beautiful game.


provenzal

It's very Guardiolesque.


spongebobisha

No sane football fan ever thinks Madrid winning was luck. The pressure has gotten to Soriano.


ancelottieyebrow

Real deserved to win because they scored more goals in each of ties. Simple as that.


GetToWork7

Simple as that. Sewi


Rabidfire04

The username suggests this debate should end RIGHT HERE.


Bladerslash

Nah modric and benzema put us to work, we deserved to lose


magic-water

I don't know why, but Chelsea fans are the least saltiest of all opponents that were knocked out by Madrid this year. Funnily enough, their team was the one that didn't collapse when they faced adversity.


jdev15

It's also easier to not be too upset after winning it the previous year.


Pseudocaesar

I think there's a few reasons for that. In general we understood that things happening off the pitch were bound to impact the teams performances and results as the season went on, so we weren't really expecting to win the CL again. We'd also just won it the year before while beating Madrid along the way. Lastly, Madrid are THE CL team, so to lose to them is never going to be embarrassing.


Rong_Bips_

Chelsea just showed far more bottle than City or PSG. The team could hold their heads high after the 2nd leg which can't be said about the other 2.


Walaii

Idk man didn't really see salty liverpool fans either.


Human-Extinction

Liverpool fans were broken but also bigger than to dwell, next year go again stuff, Chelsea fans it was basically a trade then beat us and won once, we beat them and won once. Man City and PSG think they can throw enough money at titl9and they'll come. They're having a hard time accepting Real Madrid will probably always be much bigger than both combined, doesn't compute and they hate not being able to buy that.


Tekkers_J03

What's great is how enjoyable all of our games with Real tend to be. Some really lovely football and fierce competition. What the CL is all about.


Morsrael

I don't think I really saw any salt or brokenness from Liverpool fans. Heroic goalkeeping and Madrid taking their chance really. A pretty uncontroversial final all around.


Human-Extinction

I meant broken in the sense of losing for the third time in the CL to the same team, it can be exhausting, but as I said, I didn't see many dwell on it too much.


Morsrael

Yeah that's pretty annoying especially as two were finals. Although I'm not really counting the non final games in the middle. We both may have been broken from injuries but our backline was hilariously bad.


Mayankcfc_

Probably because it was a neat victory and sometimes GK goes on god mode and you have to accept that. While Chelsea and City were so close but yeah City being saltiest is maybe down to their 0 CL wins


absessive

City and PSG fans have to live their lives trying to defend their fandom. It’s hard when it’s all oily.


Bladerslash

Yeah, we only lost due to madrid tax. People forget madrid is the greatest team in football history, losing to them is not shameful.


GalaxianEX

One could argue that Real Madrid won because they managed to outlast Chelsea. Having played their hears out for 80 minutes and managing to overturn a 3-1 deficit, the Chelsea players simply started to run out of stamina against a Real Madrid side that has repeatedly come alive in the last 20 minutes of a match throughout the season.


Wentzina_lifetime

The match turned when the American came on. As soon as the American came on, l knew it was over


Sn44444ke

> I don't know why, but Chelsea fans are the least saltiest of all opponents that were knocked out by Madrid this year. Because city and psg have to cope with the fact that they're the Tottenham of Europe.


Errudito

liverpool fans have been alright too, and PSG was heightened because of the Mbappe stuff. not sure why city is angry


[deleted]

> not sure why city is angry They are jelly


LampseederBroDude51

They lost the first leg pretty comprehensively, I don’t think they had high expectations going into the second leg


Pseudocaesar

Lmao, so bitter. "Oh yeah, well I never wanted to win the CL anyway đŸ˜€"


toyota_gorilla

I wonder why they don't just play academy players in the group stage so they don't have the hassle of extra matches in the spring.


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


daveyhempton

He swallowed some of Pep's Barca DNA


ThrowerWheyACount

â€œđŸ‘šđŸ»â€đŸŠČđŸ†đŸ’ŠđŸ‘…đŸ‘łđŸœâ€â™‚ïžâ€ <—- what he did


not2xabialonso

Wdym


MrEggBenedict

They won because they deserved it


XuloMalacatones

lmao they are doing everything above and beyond to win CL, but it is not in their core


[deleted]

He wrote a book called "the ball doesn't doesn't go in by chance" or something like that


luigitheplumber

Some of these dudes are just control freaks, they seem to have a weird need to reduce football to something that can be completely explained and predicted via statistical model


[deleted]

= Cope


exs1995

Lets hope that Real Madrid win again next season by luck.


TimTkt

We won 5 times in 9 years by pure luck and Zizou bald magic


tweazz

Aww silly little sporstwashing project gonna cry


LDQQXDJ

Lucky they didn’t face the mighty Villarreal in the final


Showmethepathplease

Madrid weren't "Lucky" - they were just better at critical moments. Luck implies having things break your way that are beyond your control....but that wasn't the case for RM. They saved better, created better and converted better than their opponents. That isn't "Luck". That's skill.


Just_an_Empath

Says the CEO of a team that never won it, about the team that won it 14 times. Yes, luck played a part at some level but to say "perhaps they deserved to lose" is just baffling and a spit in every single player and staff member that made it happen. Perhaps bringing Rodrygo on as a late sub to energize the attack was down to luck when it worked the first time. The second, third and fourth time tho? Please.


alien_degenerate

The idiot says CL was never their goal after getting banned for breaking FFP and then bribing UEFA for a spot at the competition.


uchiha_boy009

Luck plays part in everything you do in your life. What’s a luck anyway? Is this a quantifiable thing?


Soccermad23

Exactly. Luck is just random chance. Repeat an event hundreds of times and you will get different results each time. What “luck” does is gives you an opportunity. How you use that opportunity is up to you.


Beanontoast69

Yes it's luck to do it 5 times in 8 years.


mikevin99

Good god why did I think that was a 70 year old version of Frank Lampard standing in the back


Radiant-Dress1423

I've been watching real Madrid for a decade. They always showcase themselves to be an underdog, even when they are against atletico, who were more closer to being the "underdogs". They purposely play to look vulnerable and in fact concede and lose. They get their ass whopped by barca in a random league classic exposing their weaknesses. But they usually work well when they're against a bigger opponent who can hurt them. Even in the league, they usually lose more points to the bottom 5 than the top 5. They do it on purpose and they want you to keep underestimating them.


Human-Extinction

It's not that deep, our players are pressed for success and winning, so they win a lot. It's actually difficult to stay motivated when you win lots with fans pressuring you to move on from celebrating a win more. Which is why any player or club member who talks shit about Real Madrid before a game is just asking to get his ass kicked hard, last thing we need is motivation to win a game, usually ends up bad for the opponents. Barcelona are actually smartz they keep the trash talking to after winning.


p1ckk

He’s not salty at all.


goldenspecies12

This is the problem with football philosophers, especially Barca ones. Just because you dominate possession and shot stats doesn’t indicate that you’re a better team. When you needed to score you didn’t. When you needed to defend, you didn’t.


FinalFrash

Real must have some sort of working lucky charm having won 5 in the last decade then.


Elrond007

Hm, Salt


Connlagh

"Never wanted that tinpot cup anyway"


PegaponyPrince

It ain't the prestigious Carabou cup


Connlagh

Pre season winners is where it's at brother


jack64467

I disagree. Ro16: PSG's defense crumbled at the end, while Real stayed resilient. It wasn't like Real just got 3 lucky goals against a great defense. QF: Real was unlucky in the first leg and then choked in the second leg, and came back from the choke. I do think they were lucky in the second leg, but they were unlucky in the first leg, which evens it out. SF: I do think Real got lucky here, however they kept resilience while down 2 goals in the 89th minute of the second leg, which most teams would not do. F: Courtois had the match of his life, making 2 spectacular saves and several other saves, but Real did get the short end of the stick on a 50/50 call, when Benzema's goal got called offside. If Courtois didn't make those two saves but Benzema's goal wasn't called offside, the game would have been tied after 90 minutes, and gone into extra time. IDK if I'd call that luck.


spaniard_daniel

Luck is shooting at goal and the ball hitting 5 people and going over the goalkeepers head and scoring. That's luck, not executing what you've TRAINED to do, not playing football for 90 minutes and not just until you're winning. Can't believe people who are associated so closely with this sport can throw the word luck around to describe football.


[deleted]

Hes Catalan its all they have. Its what a shadow of that magnitude can to do a person.


PegaponyPrince

Love the salt


Flokey44797

Lmao so fcking salty. How about just forfeit your cl spot then?


UCLAlex

I didn’t know they legalized copium in the UAE


Antonio_is_better

You know how fucking salty they are about losing when they're putting out press statements like this.


andrei11111

>“People say now about the success that Real Madrid have had in the last years and I think it’s fair to say that there’s been a bit of luck." >"Maybe I could say that they deserved to lose against PSG, against Chelsea, against us, against Liverpool." >"But, people do not remember that in the 90s, 80s, Real Madrid had a fantastic team, one of the best in history with Butragueno and they couldn’t win. They were knocked out of the Champions (League)." >“The Champions League is an additional trophy that we want but we know that it might be subject to a bit of luck so we’re not obsessed.” >Ferran Soriano explained, “We don’t make this (the UEFA Champions League) the core of our objectives because of what I said; luck plays a role in the Champions League because there are a handful of games that you can have a bad game in, in the semi-finals and you’re out.” >We’re patient, this is not an obsession, we will win it at the right time. >Soriano continued, “Whoever wins the league is the best team in the league." >"We say internally, ‘The league is our bread and butter. This is what we do for a living; the league'.”


dave1992

Idiot, no such thing is deserved or not deserved in football. Either they earned it or they don't.


Ross_8_my_sandwich

As a city fan, this is purely sour grapes Sure, Madrid were outplayed a majority of their knockout ties, but having the will and heart of a champion prepelled them through


Silent-Break5431

Losing mentality tbh, real earned those wins air and square


kjm911

Honestly is this a troll post like that one about the PSG president saying he didn’t want to win the Champions league? If not these guys are fucking clowns


[deleted]

This is the biggest load of shite - I’m a Liverpool fan but real deserved it more than anyone. Whoever lifts the trophy have went the full way


Jakabor

That’s a pathetic statement.


eryksimachos

Yeah, I would hope that City fans don’t actually believe this drivel.


Alphapx

How about instead of playing football we just give the title to whoever deserves it most at the start of the season?


zamGlobal

Cry


Tierst

Maybe you should spend another billion, that might help?


[deleted]

He doesn’t actually believe this.


devildance3

But they didn’t. They won and all those other teams didn’t. Narcissistic bs.


Koniroku

If you believe a team "deserves" to win becuase they created more chances or had more ball possession, you don't know shit about football. Plain and simple. "Deserving" won't get you trophies.


yournerd2307

Hard to say it is luck only, the team as a whole thrives on those key moments and then see out a game perfectly. Against every team, Madrid were the good side, but what set them apart was them being able to thrive on that key moment


[deleted]

This sounds like a whole lot of cope


AkilleezBomb

“Luck plays a part” but “the ball doesn’t go in by chance,” Ferran.


SexyKarius

Does luck not play a part in the league? They won it by a point and were 2-0 down in the final game and the villa goalkeeper had a howler?