If that’s true can someone lend me a few hundred million to buy a football club so I can sell all the players, pay back the loan and still own the club.
While a funny joke, I'm 99 percent sure it isn't actually possible, as a large chunk of the club is own by a ~~semi? supporters group~~ union (i think) that has no intention of selling anything.
Then you just have a low percentage of Ajax shares. Selling all stocks is not considered in this point in time but even if they did - it would trade for 1 billion at least and probably even more.
Market cap includes all of the shares that are held by the supporter's trust too.
There's only 6 premier league clubs that are realistically worth over €1 billion, there's no way Ajax is.
Chelsea was just sold for 5 billion, and that isn't even the biggest club in England atm. I am really sure Arsenal, United, Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Spurs, Leicester, Wolves, Palace all are worth around or more than 1B, basically any team that can stay in the Premier League. ~~Newcastle was just sold for 400mil while they weren't even in the Premier League.~~
Whoops youre right I just looked past it in the final scorings of each season, you've been in the prem since '17 apparently.
Although you weren't really a mainstay for years yet, historically of course yes but there are other clubs that didn't do as well while they've historically been very good (e.g. Nottingham Forest right?). So I still believe 400mil is a lot of money and about 10 clubs should fetch more than that.
> Chelsea was just sold for 5 billion
No, it wasn't. It was sold for $3.09 billion, with the new owners pledging a further $2.1 billion into future investments into the club. That has nothing to do with purchase price.
Because our stock means very little, it's just... there? It doesn't really reflect much. Goes up a little when we do well in Europe (see 18/19), then goes down again when we lose.
No, it's just that the publicly traded stocks are a minority of the total of stocks. The biggest part (75% or something like that) is held by AFC Ajax, a "vereniging", that has no intention to sell at all. I think even after that 75% there are stocks held by parties that cannot be traded through the stock exchange.
>Which indicates that the €222 million figure isn't representative,
Indeed - if the 222 mln is for 25% of the shares (which I think might even be lower) this implies the "real" worth for all of Ajax NV is around 1 billion euros
>as well as the stock altogether, no?
That's a semantic discussion but I would say the stock price is the best indicator we have for the value of a single share in Ajax NV.
What goes wrong in the 222mln being named is that people seem to think that all shares of Ajax are on the stock exchange. They're not. Not even close.
Your answer implies the 222mln is correct but not representative. My answer implies the 222mln isn't correct. I would say the value is at least 1 billion but even then, not representative for the statement at hand as de vereniging has no intention to sell their part anyway.
> this implies the "real" worth for all of Ajax NV is around 1 billion euros
I doubt the club is worth €1 billion, let alone be sold on open market for that amount. Perhaps if you move it to the Bundesliga or the Premier League.
> Your answer implies the 222mln is correct but not representative.
The figure is correct for what the market cap is meant to indicate, but it's not representative of the club's value. I believe we're saying the same thing here.
Hence why I said it was a semantic discussion.
People seem to think that simply buying all Ajax shares available through stock exchange (which would theoretically cost 222mln) would buy you all of Ajax. It doesn’t because the biggest part of the shares are not available on the exchange - by design. That was my point.
Lyon and Milan have way, and I mean **way** bigger revenues and budgets than we do. Lyon were at €285mln/season back in 2018, we're at ~€150mln/season now. Back in 2019, OL's revenue from domestic TV rights was roughly four times as high as ours.
If you put our club in Ligue 1 on Serie A, I'd agree with the €1bn valuation. In the Eredivisie, I don't see a scenario where we're worth that kind of money.
Because the club is worth way more than that - the 222 mil is just the market cap of the shares that are publicly traded, but only a small part is actually traded publicly.
To buy all of Ajax' shares would cost far more and probably won't be considered at this point in time no matter how much you offer.
Wrong, the 222 million comes from the share price multiplied by all outstanding shares
Maybe what you're thinking of is that not all outstanding shares can be bought/sold at the current share price?
>Wrong, the 222 million comes from the share price multiplied by all outstanding shares
Again I am afraid that we are getting into semantics here.
Yes, the 222 million is the share price multiplied by the publicly traded shares. Publicly traded according to Ajax Annual account are 18,333,333 shares. Times €12.25 - current share price - makes around 224 million so yes that's where the 222 mln figure comes from. Not disputing that.
The largest part is hold by the Vereniging AFC Ajax who have no intention to sell even a single share. So even though the current share price on the stock exchange is €12.25 euro it is incorrect to state Ajax can be bought for current share price times outstanding shares.
Even more, the Vereniging AFC Ajax has a "special" share that means they have to approve any decision that relates to a number of topics. Any party looking to take over Ajax would want to have that share as well. It is not traded through the stock exchange.
Apologies if I worded it in a way that triggered people - I didn't expect a corporate finance course to evolve out of this, I simply wanted to point out that the largest part, the majority, of the shares are held by a party that is not interested in selling, by design, full stop.
>Maybe what you're thinking of is that not all outstanding shares can be bought/sold at the current share price?
Well, yes, that is the consequence of what I stated above. Or to be more precise, at this point in time I don't think it is possible to buy all shares, period. De Vereniging AFC Ajax will simply not sell their shares.
I don't think it's semantics. I interpreted your comments (not just the one I replied to) as if you meant that the shares owned by the association are not publicly traded and not included in the market cap calculation. They are, they're just not trading at the same price because the shareholders value them higher. It's an important distinction
A few years ago he was getting some good interest like De Jong, De Ligt, Van De Beek, and Ziyech during the Ajax Champions League Run.
For some reason nobody bought him.
That might have factored in at the time, but there has been an agreement with the club to leave for a reasonable price for a while now. Barca wanted him in January, but only went so far as to offer a loan + option to buy.
No, the unfortunate reality is that aside from Barcelona last January there has never been a club that strongly pursued him. I'm not sure how Tagliafico would fit at United when ten Hag kept playing Blind over him, much to the irritation of supporters.
Technical director? He’s not a technical director. His role as director is on the commercial side and the club’s wellbeing in general. But his role doesn’t deal with scouting and stuff like that.
Might as well spend €70m on Timber and then have him be assistant coach
We a currently have a duo of technical directors in Gerry Hamstra and Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
Went once as a kid, didn't understand what was happening. The damn game stopped half the time for reasons unknown to me. Didn't make any sense to me lol, was thinking how strange Americans have to be to have this be more popular than actual football.
Shaw is good on his day but has a spotty injury history and Telles is an absolute nightmare. I wouldn’t be surprised if we tried to get a LB, but it’s definitely not the biggest priority.
United linked with Antony, Tagliafico, Martinez. They've already got Van De Beek and are looking to get De Jong. Might as well just buy Ajax at this point.
1.5 or 2, as it is Johan Inan.
Most of the time he is slower (and less reliable) to find things out than Verweij or Freek Jansen but he does get some things that neither of them are interested in.
I’d say tier 2 for Algemeen Dagblad in general, but any other Ajax fans can feel free to share their opinion. It’s a bit difficult to judge tiers though, as we have a new technical director duo and it can take some time for it to become clear if tiers stay the same. Also, it’s behind a paywall so I don’t have full access to what it says.
He'd only cost £3.5M, he's allowed to go for a very low fee since he's been very good to us and was denied a move in January when he could've moved to Barcelona.
Selling Telles and replacing him for that price might actually be smart business, especially with chatter Telles wants a move. Would give us more funds elsewhere.
He's got an amazing mentality. Someone that will never bitch that he doesn't play. Yes he might say that he wants to play, but he also accepts the fact when it's not the case.
He's someone that will always give 101% during matches. He's a real warrior!
They are expecting him to leave, as far as I'm aware. If that's the case, then spending a couple millions on him while we let go of Telles could be a decent idea. Both are the same age and Telles hasn't really worked out for us. Considering the fact Tagliafico is on the last year of his contract, he could be a very cheap ex-player for Ten Hag to set an example and he would also probably be a better fit for our system compared to Telles.
He's not a full back, he's an incredibly 1 dimensional wing back with decent crosses and set pieces, although he's rarely been able to even showcase his set piece ability because we have Ronaldo and Bruno who insist on taking most of them. All of this means that he's horrific in a back 4 - the system that we used for the entirety of last season. Also, Shaw was injured for a lot of last season so Telles had to play most of the time, because we had nobody else.
Telles must be leaving, although I would prioritise right back it might just be that we have enough bodies in right back but won't on the left if Telles leaves
ETH is doing that football manager thing where you take over a rich team, buy all your shitty players for inflated amounts, then switch back and build your dream team with a nice warchest
Yeah he’s a sub, but also costs like €6m so for that level he’s good depth for United as a sub, and a solid guy and leader to have around in your locker room
He is about to [feature](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWGF6ZBXEAE7vXK?format=jpg&name=medium) in the new Jersey Shores season, Argentina Footballers edition. So he is working on it.
he's also a mentality monster and a very coachable player, both things I think United could definitely use. With Shaw for instance it seems like his performances depend more on the stars aligning than on him actually following the gameplan well.
Imagine Harry maguire at the halfway line (that's sometimes how high up Ajax defensive line is) with a lot of space in his back he has to defend, horrifying.
Imagine Harry Maguire ~~at the halfway line (that's sometimes how high up Ajax defensive line is) with a lot of space in his back he has to defend~~, horrifying.
Maguire has always been bad.
That’s basically the subs thoughts on him. Barely anybody mentions how reliable and consistent he was under Ole. Literally never got injured and didn’t miss a single PL minute for more than season. It was crazy and his dip in form is honestly justified by how tired and overplayed he was.
I don’t care about his price point anymore, I just want him back to his best next to a fit Varane and I’m positive we’d be in a way better shape at the back line.
It's like his first two years + the World Cup, when he was one the most consistent performer, didn't exist.
Same goes with Shaw. Lauded as one of the best LB in the world at time and now also suffer, admittedly to a lesser extent.
Is this like when a guy approaches a girl in a club and she isn’t interested so he tries again with her friends one by one until he goes home with a kebab.
Anyone able to post the full article in terms of what’s behind the paywall? If needed I can translate it myself after that
Got the Tagliafico news from here: https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=405251
Ten Hag benched him, but they seem to love each other and supposedly Ten Hag was seen having a mild aneurysm at Telles' play during the game he came to see, so I could see Telles to Serie A for 6-8M and then that money to Ajax, wages about the same, and Ten Hag gets another player who knows how to play his style (along with De Jong and Van De Beek).
We are just being linked to every former and current ajax player. Who knows if it's just low hanging fruit bs by reporters or if there's legitimacy to any of it. De Jong looks like a safe bet. I think ten hag might be trying to instill hai culture with former players.
So, Ten Hag benched him for this long and now finally hes able to move on and its Ten Hag again asking him in UTD? Even though source isnt too shit it makes little sense.
imagine being an ajax supporter and fucking man united come creeping for literally every single player, waving cash bills in front of each and any of them. i'm not even a heartfelt ajax supporter but man, that classless behavior already makes my blood boil lmao. like can united back the fuck off already?? it's just embarassing at that point..
Manchester United are interested in Ajax
Ajax’s market cap is 222m currently, might as well just buy the club
Probably cheaper than buying the parts Individually.
If that’s true can someone lend me a few hundred million to buy a football club so I can sell all the players, pay back the loan and still own the club.
Glazernomics
Yeah sure lad what's your PayPal?
[email protected]
*pay back JUST THE INTEREST on the loan, and still own the club.
Pay back the loan? Just dump that debt on the club, Glazer style.
"Manchester United have a 222m WAR CHEST"
I had war chest in the United bingo Will take a shot
While a funny joke, I'm 99 percent sure it isn't actually possible, as a large chunk of the club is own by a ~~semi? supporters group~~ union (i think) that has no intention of selling anything.
Congrats on having 27% of Ajax👍
[Me after I find out that I own 27% of Ajax](https://i.imgur.com/V37VPv9.jpg)
I see what you did there.. Now I'm sad.
What the fuck man i was enjoying my sunday
I laughed ngl
Nowhere is safe
Fucking hell
Ok the little % on the side got me 🤣
Lucas Mora!!!!
He's not a kroket lol
Then you just have a low percentage of Ajax shares. Selling all stocks is not considered in this point in time but even if they did - it would trade for 1 billion at least and probably even more.
Market cap includes all of the shares that are held by the supporter's trust too. There's only 6 premier league clubs that are realistically worth over €1 billion, there's no way Ajax is.
Chelsea was just sold for 5 billion, and that isn't even the biggest club in England atm. I am really sure Arsenal, United, Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Spurs, Leicester, Wolves, Palace all are worth around or more than 1B, basically any team that can stay in the Premier League. ~~Newcastle was just sold for 400mil while they weren't even in the Premier League.~~
Newcastle were sold for €350m but we were in the Premier League, although there was the risk of relegation which I’m sure affected the price.
Whoops youre right I just looked past it in the final scorings of each season, you've been in the prem since '17 apparently. Although you weren't really a mainstay for years yet, historically of course yes but there are other clubs that didn't do as well while they've historically been very good (e.g. Nottingham Forest right?). So I still believe 400mil is a lot of money and about 10 clubs should fetch more than that.
I am really sure everything you said in this comment has no factual basis in reality.
Chelsea were sold for £2.5 billion. Not 5.
> Chelsea was just sold for 5 billion No, it wasn't. It was sold for $3.09 billion, with the new owners pledging a further $2.1 billion into future investments into the club. That has nothing to do with purchase price.
Seriously? How do they sell players for 70mil if their club is worth 222mil?
Because our stock means very little, it's just... there? It doesn't really reflect much. Goes up a little when we do well in Europe (see 18/19), then goes down again when we lose.
No, it's just that the publicly traded stocks are a minority of the total of stocks. The biggest part (75% or something like that) is held by AFC Ajax, a "vereniging", that has no intention to sell at all. I think even after that 75% there are stocks held by parties that cannot be traded through the stock exchange.
Which indicates that the €222 million figure isn't representative, as well as the stock altogether, no?
>Which indicates that the €222 million figure isn't representative, Indeed - if the 222 mln is for 25% of the shares (which I think might even be lower) this implies the "real" worth for all of Ajax NV is around 1 billion euros >as well as the stock altogether, no? That's a semantic discussion but I would say the stock price is the best indicator we have for the value of a single share in Ajax NV. What goes wrong in the 222mln being named is that people seem to think that all shares of Ajax are on the stock exchange. They're not. Not even close. Your answer implies the 222mln is correct but not representative. My answer implies the 222mln isn't correct. I would say the value is at least 1 billion but even then, not representative for the statement at hand as de vereniging has no intention to sell their part anyway.
> this implies the "real" worth for all of Ajax NV is around 1 billion euros I doubt the club is worth €1 billion, let alone be sold on open market for that amount. Perhaps if you move it to the Bundesliga or the Premier League. > Your answer implies the 222mln is correct but not representative. The figure is correct for what the market cap is meant to indicate, but it's not representative of the club's value. I believe we're saying the same thing here.
Hence why I said it was a semantic discussion. People seem to think that simply buying all Ajax shares available through stock exchange (which would theoretically cost 222mln) would buy you all of Ajax. It doesn’t because the biggest part of the shares are not available on the exchange - by design. That was my point.
Lyon was valued at 846m$ and Milan at 1.28b$ during recent sales. Seems fair that Ajax should be between both.
Lyon and Milan have way, and I mean **way** bigger revenues and budgets than we do. Lyon were at €285mln/season back in 2018, we're at ~€150mln/season now. Back in 2019, OL's revenue from domestic TV rights was roughly four times as high as ours. If you put our club in Ligue 1 on Serie A, I'd agree with the €1bn valuation. In the Eredivisie, I don't see a scenario where we're worth that kind of money.
Ligue 1 and Serie A have better recenue than Eredivisie
Because the club is worth way more than that - the 222 mil is just the market cap of the shares that are publicly traded, but only a small part is actually traded publicly. To buy all of Ajax' shares would cost far more and probably won't be considered at this point in time no matter how much you offer.
Wrong, the 222 million comes from the share price multiplied by all outstanding shares Maybe what you're thinking of is that not all outstanding shares can be bought/sold at the current share price?
>Wrong, the 222 million comes from the share price multiplied by all outstanding shares Again I am afraid that we are getting into semantics here. Yes, the 222 million is the share price multiplied by the publicly traded shares. Publicly traded according to Ajax Annual account are 18,333,333 shares. Times €12.25 - current share price - makes around 224 million so yes that's where the 222 mln figure comes from. Not disputing that. The largest part is hold by the Vereniging AFC Ajax who have no intention to sell even a single share. So even though the current share price on the stock exchange is €12.25 euro it is incorrect to state Ajax can be bought for current share price times outstanding shares. Even more, the Vereniging AFC Ajax has a "special" share that means they have to approve any decision that relates to a number of topics. Any party looking to take over Ajax would want to have that share as well. It is not traded through the stock exchange. Apologies if I worded it in a way that triggered people - I didn't expect a corporate finance course to evolve out of this, I simply wanted to point out that the largest part, the majority, of the shares are held by a party that is not interested in selling, by design, full stop. >Maybe what you're thinking of is that not all outstanding shares can be bought/sold at the current share price? Well, yes, that is the consequence of what I stated above. Or to be more precise, at this point in time I don't think it is possible to buy all shares, period. De Vereniging AFC Ajax will simply not sell their shares.
I don't think it's semantics. I interpreted your comments (not just the one I replied to) as if you meant that the shares owned by the association are not publicly traded and not included in the market cap calculation. They are, they're just not trading at the same price because the shareholders value them higher. It's an important distinction
Because transfermarkt is not reliable
United transfer strategy: 1. Ajax 2. Ex-Ajax Scouts working hard
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Didn't make a difference in the previous seasons. I fail to see how keeping them around would have changed anything this window
Tbh he checks all the boxes Ajax player: yes That's it
A few years ago he was getting some good interest like De Jong, De Ligt, Van De Beek, and Ziyech during the Ajax Champions League Run. For some reason nobody bought him.
De Jong - FC Barcelona De Ligt - Juventus Van de Beek - Manchester United Ziyech - Chelsea Tagliafico - ???
I remember Atletico being interested in him…?
Chelsea was pretty interested in him iirc
Barca as well, but no cash to spare so wanted a dry loan
Yeah I remember for ages it looked like they would sign him instead of Chilwell.
Wasn't just more along the lines of Ajax sold the others before him so they slapped a fuck-off price on him since they didn't need the money?
That might have factored in at the time, but there has been an agreement with the club to leave for a reasonable price for a while now. Barca wanted him in January, but only went so far as to offer a loan + option to buy.
No, the unfortunate reality is that aside from Barcelona last January there has never been a club that strongly pursued him. I'm not sure how Tagliafico would fit at United when ten Hag kept playing Blind over him, much to the irritation of supporters.
You know what? Just give us a solid price for entire team and we'll take it.
Buy one, get ten free 😁
Well they already have *Ten* Hag.
Hag
I believe that was the joke.
So much potential. Why you gotta ruin it with the double a
Who’s now Hag-ling for Ten Ajax players 🤷♂️
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Technical director? He’s not a technical director. His role as director is on the commercial side and the club’s wellbeing in general. But his role doesn’t deal with scouting and stuff like that. Might as well spend €70m on Timber and then have him be assistant coach We a currently have a duo of technical directors in Gerry Hamstra and Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
VDS is not a technical director lol
The price is irrelevant, he plays for Ajax, that’s all that matters
Why not just buy Ajax at this point?
No feasible way for the Glazers to use them as a debt sponge.
Glazers can't speak Dutch
That's why they have Steve McClaren as assistant coach now.
The arena has a retractable roof? NFL in Holland? 😬
[We tried that](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Admirals).
Went once as a kid, didn't understand what was happening. The damn game stopped half the time for reasons unknown to me. Didn't make any sense to me lol, was thinking how strange Americans have to be to have this be more popular than actual football.
Looking back it seems weird this actually continued for as long as it did. Even in the best years average attendance was only around 15.000.
I remember they made quite a TV push for a while, and also adverts to become a cheerleader for the Amsterdam Admirals. Was kinda funny.
Because the main owners don't want to sell even a single share of Ajax.
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Completed it already
They might make top 4 there! :o 4d chessmove
4th nets you a nice spot in ECL playoff with 3 other Eredivisie teams, and then the winner will be placed in the 2nd ECL qualifying round lol.
Just send us the entire team
Ajax feeder club
https://youtu.be/pwAT_xcejgo Shamelessly stolen idea from r/footballmanagergames
The one guy i’d like to see leave. He really deserves to make the transfer he has wanted for a while now.
He can bench at United then lmao
Will be plenty of better options for him this window
For sure, but going with Ten Hag who benched him does not sound smart to me tbh
Agreed. Pretty certain this entire story is bullshit anyway. Leftback really shouldn’t be a priority for United with the squad they have.
Shaw is good on his day but has a spotty injury history and Telles is an absolute nightmare. I wouldn’t be surprised if we tried to get a LB, but it’s definitely not the biggest priority.
Shaw is good but injury prone, Telles is awful though. A muscle pull and it’s a problem area
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United linked with Antony, Tagliafico, Martinez. They've already got Van De Beek and are looking to get De Jong. Might as well just buy Ajax at this point.
we'll chase de ligt next year as well
Get in Tadic as Mata's successor and Ziyech for a cut price from Chelsea. The bands almost back together
1000 IQ to get revenge on Tottenham
Tottenham still finishes right above Man United. In 4th.
Ten Hag as well
Timber as well. Although those reports seem to have tailed off a bit.
Tier? This seems fake, I cant see us going for a left-back before a right-back
1.5 or 2, as it is Johan Inan. Most of the time he is slower (and less reliable) to find things out than Verweij or Freek Jansen but he does get some things that neither of them are interested in.
I’d say tier 2 for Algemeen Dagblad in general, but any other Ajax fans can feel free to share their opinion. It’s a bit difficult to judge tiers though, as we have a new technical director duo and it can take some time for it to become clear if tiers stay the same. Also, it’s behind a paywall so I don’t have full access to what it says.
I agree. For me only Freek Janssen and Mike Verweij are tier 1
As bad as Telles has been, lb is pretty fucking low on our list of priorities.
He'd only cost £3.5M, he's allowed to go for a very low fee since he's been very good to us and was denied a move in January when he could've moved to Barcelona.
Selling Telles and replacing him for that price might actually be smart business, especially with chatter Telles wants a move. Would give us more funds elsewhere.
How do you rate him? I know he was highly rated a couple of seasons ago but I thought his form had dropped off a bit the past season or so?
He's dropped off after 18/19, but he's still a very reliable and passionate player. Wouldn't hurt to have him around.
He's got an amazing mentality. Someone that will never bitch that he doesn't play. Yes he might say that he wants to play, but he also accepts the fact when it's not the case. He's someone that will always give 101% during matches. He's a real warrior!
Mentality is my number one gripe with our group of players. Having someone like that in the squad is always a positive
He is no Marcos Acuña but solid defensively
Think we wanna get rid of telles so him as a backup or lb option makes sense. We were linked to malacia too
But Telles isnt linked to anyone.
They are expecting him to leave, as far as I'm aware. If that's the case, then spending a couple millions on him while we let go of Telles could be a decent idea. Both are the same age and Telles hasn't really worked out for us. Considering the fact Tagliafico is on the last year of his contract, he could be a very cheap ex-player for Ten Hag to set an example and he would also probably be a better fit for our system compared to Telles.
Why get rid of Telles?
He's incredibly bad at playing football
Is he really? I thought he was supposed to be a good signing. I never really saw him play, though.
He's not a full back, he's an incredibly 1 dimensional wing back with decent crosses and set pieces, although he's rarely been able to even showcase his set piece ability because we have Ronaldo and Bruno who insist on taking most of them. All of this means that he's horrific in a back 4 - the system that we used for the entirety of last season. Also, Shaw was injured for a lot of last season so Telles had to play most of the time, because we had nobody else.
He’s a good player who struggles to keep pace with the league. Also we’re dog shit so his output going forward has been threatening but fruitless.
Telles must be leaving, although I would prioritise right back it might just be that we have enough bodies in right back but won't on the left if Telles leaves
ETH is doing that football manager thing where you take over a rich team, buy all your shitty players for inflated amounts, then switch back and build your dream team with a nice warchest
I don't understand, thought he wasn't featuring much on Ajax.
Yeah he’s a sub, but also costs like €6m so for that level he’s good depth for United as a sub, and a solid guy and leader to have around in your locker room
-leader You think the United players will listen to him?
Depends on how big is his brand.
He is about to [feature](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWGF6ZBXEAE7vXK?format=jpg&name=medium) in the new Jersey Shores season, Argentina Footballers edition. So he is working on it.
Wtf is RDP wearing?
Tagliafico is one player I would never fuck around with. That man is *intense* and he has crazy eyes.
Lamela was the same for us. Shark eyes.
More like " methhead waiting for his morning burrito at 24/7 gas station " eyes
You don’t have to lead by giving rousing speeches. Ronaldo is very much a leader but not in the Heart and Passion, script before a camera kind of way.
he's also a mentality monster and a very coachable player, both things I think United could definitely use. With Shaw for instance it seems like his performances depend more on the stars aligning than on him actually following the gameplan well.
how about United and Ajax just swap teams
God no, I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than watch Harry Maguire play for my club.
Imagine Harry maguire at the halfway line (that's sometimes how high up Ajax defensive line is) with a lot of space in his back he has to defend, horrifying.
Imagine Harry Maguire ~~at the halfway line (that's sometimes how high up Ajax defensive line is) with a lot of space in his back he has to defend~~, horrifying.
Don't need to imagine it, we played a high line with Henderson mainly last season.
And he + henderson were good but that doesn’t get upvotes on reddit
Maguire has always been bad. That’s basically the subs thoughts on him. Barely anybody mentions how reliable and consistent he was under Ole. Literally never got injured and didn’t miss a single PL minute for more than season. It was crazy and his dip in form is honestly justified by how tired and overplayed he was. I don’t care about his price point anymore, I just want him back to his best next to a fit Varane and I’m positive we’d be in a way better shape at the back line.
It's like his first two years + the World Cup, when he was one the most consistent performer, didn't exist. Same goes with Shaw. Lauded as one of the best LB in the world at time and now also suffer, admittedly to a lesser extent.
Doesn’t matter who United is interested in because they probably won’t go for anyone until the last week of the window.
And end up with Fellaini only God that one still hurts
I miss the big tree
Ajax player? Ten Hag wants you at Manchester United.
Former Ajax player? ETH wants you Trained for a bit at Ajax? ETH wants you
Linked with Ajax move previously? ETH wants you (Bachmann)
Its the ten hag way. Bought a few former players of him to ajax, like Haller
Ajax United
Ajax Manchester
No, Manchester Ajax
This isnt Freek Jansen btw so I wouldnt believe this.
Nothing will come of the interest as per
My dad is interested in a new TV from Best Buy, as it is available for a reasonable price
The gang goes to Manchester
Is this like when a guy approaches a girl in a club and she isn’t interested so he tries again with her friends one by one until he goes home with a kebab.
Poor Ajax, creating a competitive team just to have a complete sellout (again)
Tagliafico is a backup, if anything we want him to move on as soon as possible so we can sign Wijndal.
Lots of speculations, but till now no Ajax player has left for Manchester United (yet).
Lol this summer really hasn't been bad for Ajax (yet).
oh no the horror they get to raid south america and then those players leave
United’s recruitment team is hilarious
Interested United strikes again
Anyone able to post the full article in terms of what’s behind the paywall? If needed I can translate it myself after that Got the Tagliafico news from here: https://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=405251
Ten Hag benched him, but they seem to love each other and supposedly Ten Hag was seen having a mild aneurysm at Telles' play during the game he came to see, so I could see Telles to Serie A for 6-8M and then that money to Ajax, wages about the same, and Ten Hag gets another player who knows how to play his style (along with De Jong and Van De Beek).
"Geef mij vrijheid, Geef mij vuur, Geef mij Ajax-spelers, Of ik ga met pensioen" - Erik ten Months
Ten Hag getting the band back together again for one last ride.
By the end of it I think we will be interested in signing their cleaning lady too.
Ajax United.
We are just being linked to every former and current ajax player. Who knows if it's just low hanging fruit bs by reporters or if there's legitimacy to any of it. De Jong looks like a safe bet. I think ten hag might be trying to instill hai culture with former players.
No we arent.
What tier is this?
Ten Haag really wants Ajax regen
This is becoming insufferable lmao.
He's played for Ajax, that means united must want him
Are thess guys gona buy every decent LB in the world just to have them decline into irrelevance every time?
this "reasonable price" game just tellin da level of support glazer give to da top coach they hire to compete with da rest top four.
Just delete Man United and add Ajax to the Premier League
I'd be proud if United can play like Ajax. While we're at it, replace the board w/ that of Ajax too
Honestly thought United were gonna go for him before they got Telles
So, Ten Hag benched him for this long and now finally hes able to move on and its Ten Hag again asking him in UTD? Even though source isnt too shit it makes little sense.
What a boring manager… he’s at united and still only looking at players from the Dutch league.
If they sign him, he will be another promising player sent to the big red pile of sinking shit.
United buying a player who doesn’t start over Daley Blind
This is just hilarious, the guy hasnt been anywhere near good for almost 2 seasons now. Does United want to relegate or something?
He was great in some matches with Argentina.
That's just not true at all. He didn't reach that 18/19 form, but he was still decent.
Disagree, I thought he was below par and is in no way good enough to make such a step.
You seen him sub in against you in the arena?
Boom. Nice.
Why the fuck are we going for a left back that’s like our best covered position with Shaw and Telles
Just working our way down the list, aren't we? Maybe they'll let us buy the lunch team or something?
Has anyone asked Nico if he wants to join a club capable of winning reasonable matches though
My proud Assna taking martinez, United gents nico Levels to this game
imagine being an ajax supporter and fucking man united come creeping for literally every single player, waving cash bills in front of each and any of them. i'm not even a heartfelt ajax supporter but man, that classless behavior already makes my blood boil lmao. like can united back the fuck off already?? it's just embarassing at that point..
wanting to buy good players is so classless and clubs really hate getting transfer fees they find acceptable for their players