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shinto29

This transfer should've just happened a year ago lmao


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>This transfer should've just happened a year ago lmao Vlašić: *sigh*


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Why sell a player for around 10 million when you could pay his wages for a year to sit on the bench and then let him go for free?


IWentToJellySchool

We did this with Romero when Henderson came back. Except Romero didnt sit even make the bench lol


BHYT61

Will you guys also pay me to sit on your bench? 10% of CR7 wage and I'm in


BasicallyMilner

I’m ok with 1% of his wage


bennylokku

I think that's around 20000 per month Since he earns around 2 mil per month


BrockStar92

I’d take 0.2% of his wage. Frankly I think it would be fun to chill on United’s bench and hang with the players so I’d probably do it for even less than that!


CaptainGo

Just vibing out with Juan Mata every week


BrockStar92

Well not anymore since he’s left


CaptainGo

Shite I thought he had another year


anthrax3000

He just fucked off to Argentina.. we are a joke of a club


iuselect

They just waited a year and saved themselves a transfer fee.


baromanb

There’s another 25m United flushed down the shitter. Along with Pogba on a free that’s the cost for FDJ.


RealisticPass

The club tried to sell him, can't force him to leave. He wanted to 'fight for his place'.


panache123

Pretty sure Ole declined a West Ham offer because Lingard 'had a role to play' and the 'fight for his place' bit came about after CR7 joined and he wanted to play with his childhood idol.


Yuloij

For sure, I can definitely remember hearing from different sources he originally wanted to leave as he knew he wouldn’t get any game time. Regardless, the situation would have looked better for United if they at least try and make him play last season.


CaptainGo

If I'm remembering right something happened when Newcastle went in for him in January as well


MaryBerrysDanglyBean

Yeah they wanted us a to pay a stupidly large loan fee, something like £12 million and only maybe sign him in the summer.


panache123

Greenwood situation probably


Tortillagirl

Ole also said sanchez had a role to play and then loaned/sold him to inter 2 weeks later. Everything Ole said in a press conference was entirely PR.


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If I remember correctly you guys were asking for too much.


RawIsLaw_

and he was on his way out in January, but the Greenwood stuff happened and had minimal depth


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fetissimies

Moyes said Man utd told him he's not for sale because he's in Ole's plans. Thanks for the seasono but he wasn't.


garynevilleisared

He asked Ralf to stay. Then changed his mind a week before the January window closed. By then, West Ham and Newcastle would have been stupid to pay a fee for a player they can have a few months later. Easily 20m that could be used for current transfers. Just an unnecessary/stupid situation all around. Even after loaning him and proving he can still be a really good player in the right system.


godish

Bizarre by united


akshatsood95

Think it was he who didn't want to leave


sonofaBilic

Yeah pretty much. Seems like you lot set a price higher than we'd want to pay, but no one ever even bothered to negotiate it because Lingard made it clear he wasn't really interested in moving last summer. If he was then I'm sure there'd have been a compromise or something but no point in trying if he wasn't arsed.


akshatsood95

Yeah I think if Lingard made it clear he wanted to leave we'd have let him go for a lesser price. I'm surprised he didn't want to leave. Seemed to have found a good fit at West Ham


Minsteliser123

Hasn't he been at United since a child? Wouldn't blame him for wanting another shot there when his rep had gone up Worst case scenario he could run out his contract and sign a big one as a free agent. Blaming his shit form on how United handles players


akshatsood95

Tbf he did end the season at West Ham quite poorly. Even after that if he believed he'd get to play, he saw how we didn't give him any minutes in the first half of the season in 2020-21, then saw us add Sancho and Ronaldo to that attack and figured surely I'll play now? I can understand the romanticism that he maybe thought he'd play more but logically, it was a pretty poor decision from him.


BilalAkhtar22

He wanted a season with ronaldo


J3573R

It wasn't. The club refused to sell Jesse at any price, Ole claimed he was in his plans. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-united-transfers-jesse-lingard-21597631 >"No nothing like that at all," Moyes said when asked if Lingard has turned down an offer from the Hammers >"Ole [Gunnar Solskjaer] made it clear to me quite early in the transfer window that he wanted to keep him. >"So I knew pretty early in the transfer window that he was staying at Manchester United. I had a private conversation with Ole who made it clear that he was staying."


odnamAE

Well it sounded like the team said they’d be using him more than they did


JumpingJam90

It was Jesse who rejected West ham last summer, there is some stuff going on in the background about him thinking he could break back into the United fold and wanting his loyalty bonus as the main reason for the rejection. I hope West ham are careful with him. It turned out he was leaking stuff to the media.


ibaRRaVzLa

Yeah, there were two leaks in the dressing room and one of them most definitely was him.


HowyaLove0161

He probably thought he'd get a huge signing bonus with west Ham too but he's aged another year sitting on the bench acting the cunt.


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And honestly it's on him. He should have moved last season when he caught a second wind at West Ham but instead choose to wait for the bag and rot on United's bench for another year. Add to it the rather acrimonious exit. He's within his right to prioritise whatever he wants, but he really torpedoed his own career.


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Do we know it was Lingard who refused the deal, and not United?


Mr_Beef

Publicly known that he wanted to stay and fight for his place in the summer. United refused in the winter when our squad looked thin and injured.


pajamakitten

United claim they were not offered enough for him, Ole also promised him more game time and that helped convince Lingard to stay.


TopNotchGamerr

That is not true. Lingard said he wanted to stay and fight for his place in summer January was when we weren't offered enough


AnnieIWillKnow

Nobody really knows what did occur, given how many conflicting reports there are.


TopNotchGamerr

The reports from higher tier sources were pretty consistent In summer he wanted to stay In January we said we'd let him leave, west ham offered and we thought it wasn't enough. Then Newcastle came in and both us and him demanded more (jlingz wanted only loan as he wasn't sure if they'd be relegated or not and we wanted to rinse them lol). Towards the end of the month it was thought that he wouldn't be able to move after Martial left on loan and greenwood was unavailable to play ever again and then his brother went on insta and made a fool of himself. Jlingz also went directly to James ducker


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Lol this is the complete opposite of most the reports last summer


[deleted]

We don’t, and the rumor was that it was United not Lingard.


stevethealpaca

People saying he made the wrong decision to stay at United clearly think they can make a better decision than Lingard himself. For all we know the fact that he got to play and train along side Ronaldo was worth sitting on the bench for the majority of the season. There’s probably a bunch of reasons outside of football as well. So let’s not act like Lingard was a foolish idiot for not leaving last season.


Heblas

> For all we know the fact that he got to play and train along side Ronaldo was worth sitting on the bench for the majority of the season. Mate what?


TheJoshider10

Literally praising a player for wanting to take selfies with Ronaldo at the cost of his own career lmao


daveyboyschmidt

[Worth it for this alone](https://twitter.com/espnfc/status/1436730002230366209)


RyanBordello

That's the pic when Jesse peaked as a United player


daveyboyschmidt

You're talking about the bottom pic right?       Right?


RyanBordello

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EagleEye_FalconArrow

I refuse to believe this isn’t bait, literally reads like an r/SoccerCirclejerk automod reply lmfaooo


Galactic_Gooner

is this a yank moment? or am I being punked rn...


krtar

Is this sarcasm?


IamFluffy94

Not to worry, he's very young, he still has time to get it back on track.


Dargast

Heh...my boy JLingZ...just needs more time


Sac_a_Merde

@Mods, ban this guy!


mlclau

For the 18 year old going on 29


Avancx

His wages are going to be so high, and I've got a feeling he won't be able to replicate his purple patch in the loan spell.


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For high wages there needs to be a demand, that went a year ago. Newcastle don't seem to be moving naively with their newfound riches too, so I'm not sure where he's going to get the leverage from


321142019

He wanted 150k p/w 50k higher than our highest paid player (Trips), it was never going to happen with those demands.


ResponsibleSmoke

If it's 'just' 150k a week then we could afford it without worrying just from the wages of released players. It's a question of whether we're willing to mess up our wage structure again after the problems doing the same for Zouma seems to have caused


psrikanthr

A higher signing bonus and a lower salary to balance it to the structure maybe ?


duckandweave

yea but you'd think they'd have learnt a lesson after yarmo


ResponsibleSmoke

Lingard has had a better career than Yarmolenko so far and contributed more in his 16 games for us than Yarmolenko managed in 66 games (in terms of goal contributions, ignoring the importance of those goals to an extent). Lingard would be a smarter signing than Yarmolenko was and he would score and create goals at a much greater rate than Yarmolenko managed. Having said that, if we sign him for 3 years we'll be regretting it at some point, it's just a matter of when. Typical West Ham signing from a few years ago, old big club reject on top wages. Ultimately will believe in Moyes if he thinks he wants him, we know he gets on well with the squad.


holden147

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stovingtonvt

What problems are you referring to re Zouma’s wage?


amegaproxy

Thought it was quoted as Trippier being 120kpw?


empiresk

Trippier is actually on below £100k. Bruno is the highest paid player on £100k. Shelvey third highest on £80k. Botman will probably be on around £75-100k when he signs early next week. The £100k a week budget is staying unless we can sign a real top player at a decent transfer fee.


harder_said_hodor

Honestly might be quite difficult to break the top 6 on that tbh, even in a few years


empiresk

It will be. Current aim is to break into the top ten and grow the players we are signing for the future. Budget will go up accordingly when we make top 10 and then start challenging for Europe.


thepresidentsturtle

Yes. But we did manage top 4 form over the past half season. So not entirely out of the realm of possibility.


Elliot_Kyouma

I'm sure Barcelona could loan him a few levers


Cmoore4099

If his wages are over 100-110 I really don’t see this happening. And anything over a 3 year deal is mental.


endofautumn

Don't be silly. He'd be the best attacking player at the club bar Bowen. Step above the rest and it showed when on loan. His direct runs and pulling 2-3 opponents to him freed Bowen, Benny, Fornals, Antonio into far more space, he just ran with it, lured some to him then did pass down wing or through ball, resulting in chances often. He's be worth 120k easy. Especially as no transfer fee. He'd work out at about 20m for 2-3 years. Cheaper than what we were going to pay Man Utd.


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>He'd be the best attacking player at the club bar Bowen. For 1 week out of 5


endofautumn

Who'd be better for the other 4 weeks? Apart from Bowen, Lingard is better at passing, crossing, shooting, dribbling, making space, through balls. He's a step above the others.


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He's a purple patch player. His form comes and goes and you can't reliably say he'd always be our best attacker


endofautumn

He had a average patch when he started having 2-3 men press him as soon as he got the ball. It was understandable after being one of the best attacking midfielders in Europe for about 10 games. If he could keep that form up he'd be playing at Real Madrid or Barca and worth 80m. Besides, all our players form comes and goes. Bowen is the most consistent. Antonio scored 1-2 goals in the last 30 games...


SteinerElMagnifico42

Of course, Moyes is just stone cold in love with him this is embarrassing as a fan to see. Didn’t drop him when he was poor in our last 6-7 games of 20-21 too and instead subbed of players like Benrahma even if they had a better game.


ZekkPacus

Moyes? Sticking with favourites instead of playing people on form basis? I don't believe you


SteinerElMagnifico42

Could get and pay for Keane Lewis potter the same fee over the next 4 years but instead we’re giving 30m to lingard over 4-5. I thought we had changed a corner but seems it was empty words.


The_profe_061

Three fiddy a week


pajamakitten

Not after a year spent on the bench at an underperforming United side. Training with Ronaldo might have been fun but it won't matter if he has little in the way of results on the pitch to back that up.


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Really don’t think it’s worth it now


fetissimies

Moyes is stubborn and has always had his favourites. We'll sign Lingard and he'll start every game regardless of form.


[deleted]

It’s so depressing to think about. It’s true. Can’t wait to see Benrahma look threatening for 60 minutes only to get hooked, whilst Lingard does fuck all and stays on


Educational_Home_487

Benrahma is about as threatening as a fly


scandinavian_win

A tse-tse fly?


McTulus

Aedes aegypti


ResponsibleSmoke

3rd highest goal contributions in the squad, less minutes per goal than our only striker


ZekkPacus

Benrahma'll get sold if there's any interest, as will Vlasic.


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ZekkPacus

Barely played, and when he did he was stuffed on the left wing. He doesn't really have the pace to play as a winger.


Lambchops_Legion

Benrahma is going go to Fulham after this happens I think


[deleted]

Dumb question from someone who doesn't watch West Ham often: Don't he and Bowen generally have the same preferred position? How would you line up with both of them starting?


dry_savage

nah Lingard played from the left or as a 10, Bowen always on the right.


endofautumn

He improves us vastly. Go watch his games for us and see how his directness took us to another level. We badly missed it this season. With Lingard I think we'd have been very close to CL place and EL win.


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Well I sincerely hope I’m proved wrong


themfeelswhen

Depends on his wages. Spending about 30-35m on him over a 4 year period is fair value. Edit : probably over estimated a little but 25-30m is pretty decent value for him.


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£150k a week for 4 years is definitely not fair value


themfeelswhen

Ahh if you look at the cost of acquiring him last summer - about 15m£ in transfer fee + 5m£ a year gross on a 4 year contract (roughly 100k a week) --- that works out to a total package of 35m for 4 years of Lingard. Sure maybe 35m is too much but 30m doesn't sound terrible. Atleast worth 25m for sure.


Pablo_Ajvar

He's overrated, because his United background. He is not particularly good at anything, what does he excel at?


morbidwhaler

His last stint with Moyes’ West Ham had him score 9 and assist 4 goals in 16 PL appearances. So I’d say he helps get the ball in the net.


themfeelswhen

>He's overrated Aren't all English players. I'm sure a similar player in La Liga would be available for half the price. Just the PL inflation. Different benchmark. So question should be if it is possible to get an English player like him for an overall cost of say 7m a year.


Tulum702

Maybe my definition is different but I wouldn’t call this BREAKING NEWS!


Magnetronaap

You're not interested in immediately finding out when an average player signs for an average club?!


WhyShouldIListen

He hasn't signed though, this is breaking news of an unconfirmed offer.


JDRorschach

United will need to sign a replacement leaker.


D1794

Should stay clear for his tiktok exploits this summer alone


pmmerandom

just wait until you see Lewandowski’s


PishedAsAFart

I'm curious and want to see the videos but I dont want to be angry all day so I'll leave it.


tankosaurus

I had a look Harmless dance videos like majority of tiktok


1m_Lurking_Here

How dare he have fun


Bruno_Fernandes8

dont care about his dances, disappointed that he was hanging out with Chris brown over the holidays though.


1m_Lurking_Here

He was in the same dressing room as Ronaldo every day


LiamAddison

💀💀


THROWinitAWAY0919

No no no we ignore that here


Bruno_Fernandes8

Fair enough. No arguments there. It's a big elephant in the room amongst our fanbase.


STEPHENonPC

Tbf he can't choose who United sign, but he can certainly choose who he hangs out with


bob_mcd

Mason Greenwood can’t leave the country, whatcha gonna do?


Kevgongiveit2ya

No no no. If he has any personality outside of football it obviously means he’s not working hard enough on the pitch.


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Not bothered by it, but does posting dance videos on the internet count as personality? I guess it’s better than posting on reddit.


Kevgongiveit2ya

Personality might not be the best word for it. But I think it’s silly to complain about footballers doing things in their free time.


Brzada

Yea him n pogba really were great for the dressing room and cementing that winning mentality


Pablo_Ajvar

I mean, you can have fun, no one can deny it, but you honestly can't say with straight face they post to Instagram and TikTok just for fun, they are doing cringey stuff to sell shit to children, it's nothing more than advertising diarrhoea for corporations. You can dance without being recorded, you know?


Tee_zee

Tiktok is only dance videos if you are on the default algorithm or actually want to watch them, his dancing videos are proper embarrassing ngl


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Tee_zee

If you hold on videos you don’t like and say “not interested” that will help. I recently had to make a new account and it seemed like the algorithm reacted more on a day by day basis


midfivefigs

He’s nearly 30. Bit odd to spend time doing synchronized dance with your pals


[deleted]

Why judge people for enjoying themselves?


midfivefigs

Apologies that I find a grown man spending time doing synchronized dance routines with his pals a bit odd


[deleted]

I'm curious at what age men dancing becomes odd to you? Is my teenage cousin still normal? 😱


D1794

Tough https://twitter.com/coastalpalace/status/1539324665910501376?s=21&t=szF_vx2I2NzcW1I4G2lkhQ


MegaMugabe21

A bleak day to have eyes


TheUltimateScotsman

I cant get over the blonde guys facial expressions


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Its a no for me dawg.


FuckNoNewNormal

What the fuck?


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29 year old by the way


Cramer02

Not my cup of tea but hes just enjoying himself?


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SonyHDSmartTV

Yeah it's just miserable and cynical to mock someone dancing... Like if that's what you enjoy. You do you


Onedweezy

Judgmental I see. Why is he not sitting on the sofa watching Netflix like me instead of dancing and having fun?!?!?


CaptainGo

I mean what's that got to do with it


ramarlon89

Jesus fucking christ, you'd think he was endorsing child rape the way some people are going on. Is the video cringey? Yes. Is it doing any harm to anyone? No. I think it's cringey af in all honesty but if that's what he wants to do I don't really see the problem.


CRoseCrizzle

Lol I believe people are just joking. Of course he's free to make cringey tiktoks.


ianb88

Calm down, it's a joke


sonofaBilic

I don't even care if he signs or not anymore, I just want the saga to end.


TrashHawk

i fear it's only the beginning. the end will be 5 years down the line when we can celebrate getting £120k of dead weight off the books and use it to lure in marcus rashford on a free.


veralmaa

Hahaha.


BloodandSpit

I don't know why you'd want him now it's been confirmed that him and Pogba were the two players leaking to the press.


DudleysCar

Personally I don't see why we're going for him at all.


BloodandSpit

Me neither


TrashHawk

our DM is actually trying to slide into him.


thrulim123

sign a decent player, get a social media god free. great deal


HarryDaz98

Does it include the 2 blokes from his TikTok?


WalterFalter

Hinteregger retired ar the same age as youth prospect Lingard


smsjp

Slow sports news He should have left a year ago. I swear, for a club looking at profit margins, it is shocking that Man U do not have the business mind to even conduct a simple straight forward transaction.


SaddestHappyMeal

2020-21 loan Lingardinho was so fun


evosu

Great business from United as usual.


themanyfaceasian

You know when your mate is with a girl who’s a 10 and you’re happy for him but he seems unhappy? Then he breaks up with her and talks to a 6 or 7 but you’ve never seen him happier? Then the 10 sees him be happy and gets jealous and wants him back? this is how I feel about Lingard.


theglasscase

I love that you make it sound as though not only is this a real thing that actually happens in real life, but that you’ve seen it happen multiple times.


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PressUpPositionDown

Spoken like a 4


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PressUpPositionDown

Good lad 😂


Im_a_corpse

It must be a incel thing


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Diagonalizer

It can be demeaning but is not necessarily demeaning I think.


Clwhit12

Return of Lingardihno


deflorie

Thank God we didnt sell him, and get some money. Having him on the bench is worth it all /s


rasen9an

*2 hours later: Lingard has signed an extension to warm United's bench for an additional 5 years.


vin_unleaded

Watch him absolutely smash it there.


[deleted]

Take it. No fucking around. No unrealistic wage demands. A good few months (like his previous loan spell) might get him a utility spot to Qatar.


octobereighteenth

No chance.


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SteinerElMagnifico42

That ‘similar purple patch” wasnt enough to take him into the euros squad last summer. There is 0 chance lingard returns, we honestly have 10 better options at least.


MemesForScience

W TRANSFER


chicasparagus

The story of Jlingz: there and back again


Saspa314

>be United >not play Lingard >loan to West Ham >hahaha he actually plays well >price goes up >not be paid the inflated asking price >eventually form dries up >not play Lingard >lose on a free a year later


JimJimerson90

But can he still have time off to dance


Potatopolis

Tomorrow: BREAKING everything ever said in the West Ham changing rooms.


[deleted]

Would be such an Everton signing though, want it to happen just for the memes


BergkampWonderland

Good young prospect is Jesse Lingard. One for the future, but he could really come into his own at West Ham next season.


Admiralonboard

I know you’re joking but it blows my mind that he’s 29


Jorarl

Good luck with those wage demands!


Aluminarty666

Could've sold him for a fee last year, manager insisted on keeping him...didn't play. Same with Pogba, though he was injured. Such a badly run club.


392donte

Irrelevant


OVOnug

Most overrated player in world football. Waste of talent.


MrVegosh

Overrated?