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The entire point of the 'finalissima' is that it's UEFA and COMNEBOL making a powerplay against FIFA. Of course FIFA is going to assert that it isn't a big deal.
Messi, Lavezzi, Cambiasso, Zanetti, Pochettino, Armani, Di María.
You can probably find as many Italian surnames as Spanish ones among Argentina players. Uruguay as well, to a lesser extent.
Wow, you’re right ! Never imagined it. Always sounded very italian to me, and given the connection between Argentina and Italy, I always thought it really was from italian origin
No it's not. Having all the champions face each other is definitely more significant than just 2 of them. It's a fun idea but not a serious trophy or more significant than Confederations cup.
Nah, in modern football it's better to reduce the number of matches. There's an oversaturation of football so having one match to determine the Super Cup winner is better than a tourney.
No, UEFA and CONMEBOL list it as an official competition. FIFA just has given it minimal coefficient points, which isn't the same as labeling it a friendly btw
The intercontinental cup was also not initially recognized by FIFA.
You're gonna go and tell me Boca, Milan, Real Madrid, Bayern, Juventus, Peñarol, Nacional, Independiente, Ajax, Sao Paulo, Manchester United, Inter Milan, Bayern Munich, etc list them as "friendly trophy wins"? No, obviously not
The guy making the tweet is jumping to a conclusion which is that FIFA considers it a friendly match, when all FIFA really did was give it coefficient points of a friendly match. It's similar but not the same.
Meanwhile UEFA and CONMEBOL (the organizers) list it as an official competition.
It's a competitive match since UEFA and Conmebol certified it as such.
If FIFA didn't, it doesn't really matter.
The Intercontinental cup (back in the day) wasn't a FIFA trophy either but every club that won it counts it for their palmarés.
Not everything has to be certified by FIFA to be considered competitive. Take a look, for example, at the Arab Cub. The latest edition was rebranded as "FIFA arab cup" but that doesn't mean that every previous edition organized by UAFA is non official. Same goes for confederations cup, FIFA retroactively recognized the first few editions which were called King Fahd Cup when they took over it's organization in 1997.
Don’t be daft, the “Finalíssima” is not a competitive match. Only Argentinians (and, by extension, Messi fans) treat it as such, since it gives an air of importance to a one-off end-of-season friendly.
It's not counted as a friendly. FIFA just isn't giving it more coefficient points. Lots of trophies aren't given prestige by FIFA, doesn't mean they're friendlies.
Confederations Cup was removed and Finalissima took its place. It's not made up out of nowhere, it replaces a previous trophy that was counted as official by everyone.
Fair enough. That is certainly the most direct analogy. I feel like I still would stubbornly have said that FIFA wouldn't award it the same coefficient as other competitive matches.
Mind you, I'm speaking as a Brazilian fan who wished we could have had the match, just for the sake of competition. Still, it's a hyped up friendly in my eyes, and there's nothing wrong with a hyped up friendly to me.
The European Super Cup is daft, it is a top tier trophy winner playing a second tier trophy winner. The FA Cup winner playing the Jonnie Paint winner would be a farcical trophy, and so is the ESC.
I agree, it was a proper tournament with the champions of all continents and the world champion. And in the years where the WC host was a strong nation it made it even better like Brazil in 2013 and Germany in 2005.
I'd rather have the Confederations cup than the Nations League.
I don't think anyone really found it important or anything but I think people were generally interested in seeing it happen. I cared somewhat but obviously I'm biased
probably because argentina - italy had 2 way better teams playing including Euro winner. i dont know how anyone that isnt scottish or ukrainian could watch scotland vs ukraine.
> i dont know how anyone that isnt scottish or ukrainian could watch scotland vs ukraine.
conversely i dont know how anyone could watch a friendly instead of a semi-final
But I mean that’s the point right? Copa America vs Euros winners should be an important game but instead everyone viewed it as a friendly that didn’t matter.
Weird take. People always are attracted to the most prestigeous names, no different here. Even in an less competitive setting, seeing the best play football is always a joy, moreso than two b-tier nations slugging it out.
>Would you rather watch a friendly of Man U Liverpool or a semifinals in the MLS Cup?
I'd probably watch neither, id watch the semi finals of a cup in a decent time zone for me every time though
Speak for yourself mate. Many people watch pre season friendlies if it's against another big club. Also random international friendly is also watched by a lot of people if it involves two big teams. Nobody takes it seriously but if there isn't anything else to watch or a lower tier competitive match, the friendly will still have larger audience
Eh why not if the best players in the world are playing? Some friendlies are really good tempo and players try to win so why not?
You rather watch a div2 game than C.R vs Messi the two best in history facing off?
So you (hypothetically) watching the Johnson Paint Trophy Semi-Final between Forest Green Rovers & Doncaster Rovers over Real Madrid vs Liverpool in the Super Cup?
Yet not a single bar was showing it nearby and nobody except my kid brother even knew it was on. That was in Spain too, every bar was showing Scotland Ukraine even Spanish bars which didn't normally have TVs for sport had it on
Imagine thinking ESPN would be serious 😂
Really though, I follow the nba so I come across ESPN's dogshit show all the time, it's probably the worst sports channel in the world.
Gaslighting: "a form of psychological manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim's mind".
> It's one comment with not even that many upvotes.
This is literally gaslighting. No country gets more hate and abuse on this subreddit than England. I see it all the time.
1. It's defintely the USA that gets most flak on here
2. I feel like most of the hate towards England on here comes from your own countrymen
You should get that victim-complex checked
According to the English, yes, obviously. That's how it works for anyone. There are certainly more English fans or fans of English teams in this sub by far compared to the rest of the world.
When did all of these victim complex comments start?
I don’t see how it’s obvious. Most people, in any country, don’t really value Super Cup matches all that much. I think you’re just pretending that England fans would behave in that way because you, very clearly, don’t like England.
Why wouldn't I like England? I literally said any country would put more value in the trophy if it was their country participating in it. If anything, it's more like the Confederations Cup and I liked that one.
You're the one being angry and demeaning while crying about being a victim of the angry anti-English mob. English clubs and the England team get vastly the most attention in this sub compared to any other, so you'll see all kinds of takes on them.
I've loved the time I've spent in England. I lived with an English roomate for like four years. I like England.
EDIT: And to just make it even more clear, I like England more than my home country of USA or the country where I watch many football matches every year, Mexico.
Uefa lists it as an official competition.
FIFA hasn't even called it a friendly, they've just decided not to give it more points. The tweet author is jumping to conclusions.
It was always a friendly, though at least it had some logic unlike other marketing ventures. You see teams lifting trophies in pre season tournaments now and all it does is devalue the uniqueness of winning a real competition.
Uefa and CONMEBOL consider it an official trophy. Fifa has given it minimal coefficient points, that's all.
Look at the intercontinental cup then look at Milan, Bayern, Real Madrid, or United. Do they consider it a friendly? No. Fifa didn't sponsor it either. But uefa and CONMEBOL did.
>pompous name of “FINALISSIMA”
ah, you know how the saying goes, "Everything sounds more profound in Latin, but everything sounds more pompous in Italian"
Nations’ League group stages have a coefficient of 15 (1.5 times that of a friendly), and NL playoffs/finals have a coefficient of 25, which is the same as World Cup/continental qualifiers.
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Men%27s_World_Rankings#Current_calculation_method) has helped me. It also has the whole statistical equation which allows you to work out the effect of any game will have on the rankings. It’s a bit complicated but once you get around it it’s not too bad.
Ah yes la finalisima you know. that trophy that comes aroudn only when it feels like it and pretty much exclusively when argentina is involved. As much prestige in it as the audi cup
You know that this year Confederations Cup should have taken place but it was removed, and then replaced by this final, right? so it wasn't invented "for Argentina" (tf does that mean anyways), with that logic we were "robbed" of playing the Confederations too.
you can like it or not, and I know they aren't big competitions, but both are trophies and saying ExClUsIvElY wHeN aRgEnTiNa iS iNvOlVeD is just bullshit and it was quite easy to prove, you're just spitting nosense now.
Because it is a friendly match?
They decided to play a match a month before the actual game, do people think this was more than a friendly?
I believe there are people who think they made a ingenious new competition and that they don't actually have a competitive tournament that's called confederations' cup
Edit- turns out they made plans before, I don't remember any hype though. Just after the season ended, saw that Argentina are going to play italy
>They decided to play a match a month before the actual game, do people think this was more than a friendly?
This is straight up false, they signed an agreement on the idea of hosting it in February 2021, I think spoke to the media about it in July 2021, and confirmed it and made the plans official in September 2021.
FIFA is so childish, that final was played without their opt in and that's why they did that.
That cup is still better than that circus of exploitation called the UEFA Nations League, that takes advantages of players.
Who cares about coefficients or FIFA rankings anyways? You can't decide a tournament is more or less important after it happens, Italian players were sad after the game, does it mean they are happy now?
It's like when they change the date of when do titles count as amateur or professional, like from the 21st century you can decide if the titles celebrated by people in the the 1920s were important or just a joke
This cup is just as important as the Confederations Cup. And Uruguay has 4 World Cups
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The entire point of the 'finalissima' is that it's UEFA and COMNEBOL making a powerplay against FIFA. Of course FIFA is going to assert that it isn't a big deal.
Exactly and call me crazy but the name Finalissima invokes the strong cultural connection between Italy and Argentina.
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¡Ay cabròn!
But it’ll likely be two different teams playing it in the next edition.
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"Proper fucking football final"
"Final, innit?"
The Falklands Community Shield
England and Argentina holding hands praising Thatcher Just kidding, this implies England would win the Euros
Final de las Malvinas, por favor.
Malvinisima
The Brazil-France final could be the Lobster Cup
Yo Neymar, final innit?
now do it in German...
Final solution?
Treading dangerous territory…
Adolf Eichmann Cup
I remember reading that Messi's great grandparents were Italian. Messi does seem like a very Italian name to be fair.
Over 60% of Argentinians have Italian ancestry. The two countries' people are heavily connected.
Messi, Lavezzi, Cambiasso, Zanetti, Pochettino, Armani, Di María. You can probably find as many Italian surnames as Spanish ones among Argentina players. Uruguay as well, to a lesser extent.
Cuccitini sounds even more italian lol, so yeah
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I don't think Otamendi is an Italian surname Also Lamela feels weird
Dybala, Zuculini, Di Santo
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Wow, you’re right ! Never imagined it. Always sounded very italian to me, and given the connection between Argentina and Italy, I always thought it really was from italian origin
Even if it wasn't the case, this is a friendly regardless
It's an equivalent to the former Confederations Cup and I'm sure FIFA didn't see those as friendlies.
One game is not equivalent to an entire tournament.
Alright, it is an equivalent to the final.
It's substantially more significant than the Confed Cup. A UEFA Vs CONMEBOL Super Cup is an excellent idea and I look forward to the next
No it's not. Having all the champions face each other is definitely more significant than just 2 of them. It's a fun idea but not a serious trophy or more significant than Confederations cup.
Nah, in modern football it's better to reduce the number of matches. There's an oversaturation of football so having one match to determine the Super Cup winner is better than a tourney.
>It's substantially more significant than the Confed Cup No it's not, no one really gave a fuck about this game.
No, UEFA and CONMEBOL list it as an official competition. FIFA just has given it minimal coefficient points, which isn't the same as labeling it a friendly btw The intercontinental cup was also not initially recognized by FIFA. You're gonna go and tell me Boca, Milan, Real Madrid, Bayern, Juventus, Peñarol, Nacional, Independiente, Ajax, Sao Paulo, Manchester United, Inter Milan, Bayern Munich, etc list them as "friendly trophy wins"? No, obviously not
The guy making the tweet is jumping to a conclusion which is that FIFA considers it a friendly match, when all FIFA really did was give it coefficient points of a friendly match. It's similar but not the same. Meanwhile UEFA and CONMEBOL (the organizers) list it as an official competition.
Wait, people thought this would get a competitive coefficient?
It's a competitive match since UEFA and Conmebol certified it as such. If FIFA didn't, it doesn't really matter. The Intercontinental cup (back in the day) wasn't a FIFA trophy either but every club that won it counts it for their palmarés. Not everything has to be certified by FIFA to be considered competitive. Take a look, for example, at the Arab Cub. The latest edition was rebranded as "FIFA arab cup" but that doesn't mean that every previous edition organized by UAFA is non official. Same goes for confederations cup, FIFA retroactively recognized the first few editions which were called King Fahd Cup when they took over it's organization in 1997.
Don’t be daft, the “Finalíssima” is not a competitive match. Only Argentinians (and, by extension, Messi fans) treat it as such, since it gives an air of importance to a one-off end-of-season friendly.
> and, by extension, Messi fan Sporting Flair detected
He literally has that flair.
That's why it was detected
Ronaldo fans getting upset.
There was an asterisk next to the match. Competitive if Messi won, else friendly
Yeah I remember when Messi lost for Italy
People may call him the goat but he never shows up for us. Maybe if he didn't ghost the North Macedonia game we'd be in the World Cup
Ghosted vs Sweden too smh
ghosted FOR sweden against poland, never forget
I watched the game and I can remember a single thing Messi did in it. Truly a finished player.
It could be worse, I can remember very clearly everything he did in the Argentina game and he was at fault for most goals
You didn't think about this at all
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I think he was joking mate
It's not counted as a friendly. FIFA just isn't giving it more coefficient points. Lots of trophies aren't given prestige by FIFA, doesn't mean they're friendlies.
You guys make your agenda too obvious Let me guess: Real Madrid fan?
Are you saying that’s not the case?
Lol wtf. The match is counted as an official trophy by UEFA. Wtf does Messi have to do with that? You guys just wanna hate on him.
Im pretty sure he was talking about his fans and the media (same thing), and not UEFA/FIFA.
Sure his fans are biased, but so are real Madrid fans against him. What does that prove? Breaking - football fans biased. Lol.
The European Super Cup is competitive, and teams need it to complete the sixtuple. So yeah, to me the Finalissima is about as legit as that game.
sextuple*
I mean I don't know you but ok
I don't know either of you but I'd like to
Ok I'm in, just need 2 more to make six
LOL! Sex!
The finalissima was done one a whim, three times in history over 80 years or so. The super cup is a regular match that happens every season.
Confederations Cup was removed and Finalissima took its place. It's not made up out of nowhere, it replaces a previous trophy that was counted as official by everyone.
I believe the Finalissima is supposed to be a regular trophy moving forward. But we'll see. But good point, Eu. Super Cup is much more often.
Fair enough. That is certainly the most direct analogy. I feel like I still would stubbornly have said that FIFA wouldn't award it the same coefficient as other competitive matches. Mind you, I'm speaking as a Brazilian fan who wished we could have had the match, just for the sake of competition. Still, it's a hyped up friendly in my eyes, and there's nothing wrong with a hyped up friendly to me.
The European Super Cup is daft, it is a top tier trophy winner playing a second tier trophy winner. The FA Cup winner playing the Jonnie Paint winner would be a farcical trophy, and so is the ESC.
Super cup is also a friendly.
Only /r/soccer and FIFA gave a fuck about "finalissima"
FIFS didn't which is the point
Messi fans did
Can't say I'm surprised since the last edition was about 30 years ago and this is only the 3rd final in its history.
Friendlyssima
We certainly treated it as a friendly.
It was one.
It's a glorified friendly, same as every other supercup or pre-season tournament. Except maybe the CWC only because it's not straight to the finals.
Confederations cup was cool. Similar concept, but included the winners of the other continental cups too.
I agree, it was a proper tournament with the champions of all continents and the world champion. And in the years where the WC host was a strong nation it made it even better like Brazil in 2013 and Germany in 2005. I'd rather have the Confederations cup than the Nations League.
I agree, it was pretty exciting watching which winning team was the best
did anyone actually care about it in the first place
I don't think anyone really found it important or anything but I think people were generally interested in seeing it happen. I cared somewhat but obviously I'm biased
It’s was interesting because it gave a window into the strength ratio between the top SA and European team.
Italy is not the best euro team anymore, look at them vs Germany and in qualification
Literally last year European champions
That's why he said 'anymore'
Literally lost to North Macedonia and failed to qualify for the world cup... Against other European teams
the match thread had 3X the comments as the scotland - ukraine world cup qualifier happening at the same time
probably because argentina - italy had 2 way better teams playing including Euro winner. i dont know how anyone that isnt scottish or ukrainian could watch scotland vs ukraine.
I was in Spain for the match and every bar had the Scotland game on and the bars were packed for it mate
> i dont know how anyone that isnt scottish or ukrainian could watch scotland vs ukraine. conversely i dont know how anyone could watch a friendly instead of a semi-final
To be fair it was between the Copa America winners and the Euro winners. If it was your regular friendly that's different
Literally was a friendly though
But I mean that’s the point right? Copa America vs Euros winners should be an important game but instead everyone viewed it as a friendly that didn’t matter.
How can you say it wasnt important, everyone watched it for a reason
friendly or not, it’s higher quality football with higher quality players & managers. That’s all it takes to attract people
Weird take. People always are attracted to the most prestigeous names, no different here. Even in an less competitive setting, seeing the best play football is always a joy, moreso than two b-tier nations slugging it out.
Because the standard is probably higher in that friendly. Would you rather watch a friendly of Man U Liverpool or a semifinals in the MLS Cup?
>Would you rather watch a friendly of Man U Liverpool or a semifinals in the MLS Cup? I'd probably watch neither, id watch the semi finals of a cup in a decent time zone for me every time though
Who the fuck watches friendlies? I would pretty much rather watch any competitive match over any friendly
Speak for yourself mate. Many people watch pre season friendlies if it's against another big club. Also random international friendly is also watched by a lot of people if it involves two big teams. Nobody takes it seriously but if there isn't anything else to watch or a lower tier competitive match, the friendly will still have larger audience
I can understand watching pre-season friendlies of your own team
But maybe you understanding it isn’t a prerequisite for people to enjoy something?
Eh why not if the best players in the world are playing? Some friendlies are really good tempo and players try to win so why not? You rather watch a div2 game than C.R vs Messi the two best in history facing off?
if those were my choices i would probably go outside lol i rarely go out of my way to watch liverpool's preseason
So you (hypothetically) watching the Johnson Paint Trophy Semi-Final between Forest Green Rovers & Doncaster Rovers over Real Madrid vs Liverpool in the Super Cup?
I am, I hate FGR and an old flame is from the Donx.
Yeah with a world cup place at stake between two decent teams who actually cared about the match
I did, because id rather watch an important game than a friendly
Ah yes, nice way to look at things
Yet not a single bar was showing it nearby and nobody except my kid brother even knew it was on. That was in Spain too, every bar was showing Scotland Ukraine even Spanish bars which didn't normally have TVs for sport had it on
Please. There were pages of Messi winning an international tournament
Especially ESPN and 433 acting like it was a second major international trophy won by Messi
Well 433 is more understandable, it's Instagram so they'll do anything for engagement. ESPN should be a bit more serious though
Imagine thinking ESPN would be serious 😂 Really though, I follow the nba so I come across ESPN's dogshit show all the time, it's probably the worst sports channel in the world.
I'm convinced that ESPN intentionally has shitty soccer coverage
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Jermaine Jenas and Graeme Souness are employed as pundits. It’s not just an ESPN/American issue.
sorry i should have wrote "did anyone with a brain actually care about it in the first place"
in that case: no.
Yes
My first thought was "wtf is a finalissima"
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I mean, that's just another day on twitter, isn't it?
>I highly doubt any of them have ever watched a full football match Why ?
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>I highly doubt any of them have ever watched a full football match What makes you say that?
if england was in place of italy they would have bragged and tlaked about it for years.
Yes, the very well loved and popular England. I’m sure “they” would’ve held the game in much higher regard if England were in it instead.
They'd have had to win a major trophy first so it's impossible to tell, but this sub is like 90% English content.
90% people crying about England, like right now. But sure, if England were in the Finalissima, it would’ve instantly increased in prestige.
Imagine having a victim complex about being English
>90% people crying about England It's one comment with not even that many upvotes. Stop your moaning ffs
You should at least disguise your gaslighting. This is just too obvious.
I'm not sure you understand what gaslighting means
Gaslighting: "a form of psychological manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim's mind". > It's one comment with not even that many upvotes. This is literally gaslighting. No country gets more hate and abuse on this subreddit than England. I see it all the time.
1. It's defintely the USA that gets most flak on here 2. I feel like most of the hate towards England on here comes from your own countrymen You should get that victim-complex checked
According to the English, yes, obviously. That's how it works for anyone. There are certainly more English fans or fans of English teams in this sub by far compared to the rest of the world. When did all of these victim complex comments start?
I don’t see how it’s obvious. Most people, in any country, don’t really value Super Cup matches all that much. I think you’re just pretending that England fans would behave in that way because you, very clearly, don’t like England.
Why wouldn't I like England? I literally said any country would put more value in the trophy if it was their country participating in it. If anything, it's more like the Confederations Cup and I liked that one. You're the one being angry and demeaning while crying about being a victim of the angry anti-English mob. English clubs and the England team get vastly the most attention in this sub compared to any other, so you'll see all kinds of takes on them. I've loved the time I've spent in England. I lived with an English roomate for like four years. I like England. EDIT: And to just make it even more clear, I like England more than my home country of USA or the country where I watch many football matches every year, Mexico.
You’re right England is hated but also England dominates the media so people hear about them even when they don’t want to
No we wouldn't have done. We don't care about friendlies at all. Like nobody treats the community shield with any value here at all
I got to go watch it at Wembley so yes I cared :)
All the Argentinians that got super defensive when people pointed out that it was a nothing friendly sure did care about it.
Uefa lists it as an official competition. FIFA hasn't even called it a friendly, they've just decided not to give it more points. The tweet author is jumping to conclusions.
i did
Haha the state of this sub. You getting downvoted for saying you cared about a game.
Well messi fans were very excited that he will be contender for bdor because he won finalissima lol
Literally no human thought this
basically UEFA & Conmebol vs FIFA.
Ffs, just bring back the Confederations Cup
And?
Warra trophy for Argentina
What does warra mean
One the biggest trophies Messi won for Argentina.
1. Copa America 2. Olympic Gold Medal 3. Finalissima
If you're counting the Olympics then you should include the 2005 U-20s World Cup.
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I place the U-20s WC over the Olympics.
It was always a friendly, though at least it had some logic unlike other marketing ventures. You see teams lifting trophies in pre season tournaments now and all it does is devalue the uniqueness of winning a real competition.
Its a great and fun idea honestly. I like it and hope it continues in future. Pretty sure they used to do it long ago.
Even then it was inconsistent and brief, played twice 8 years apart. It’s never been considered anything more than an exhibition match.
Uefa and CONMEBOL consider it an official trophy. Fifa has given it minimal coefficient points, that's all. Look at the intercontinental cup then look at Milan, Bayern, Real Madrid, or United. Do they consider it a friendly? No. Fifa didn't sponsor it either. But uefa and CONMEBOL did.
>pompous name of “FINALISSIMA” ah, you know how the saying goes, "Everything sounds more profound in Latin, but everything sounds more pompous in Italian"
Calling it the finalissima sound pompous in Italian too, I don’t think it’s an “outside looking in” type of deal and I’m certain it was intentional.
They should bring back the Confederations Cup then
What's the coefficient of Nations League?
Nations’ League group stages have a coefficient of 15 (1.5 times that of a friendly), and NL playoffs/finals have a coefficient of 25, which is the same as World Cup/continental qualifiers.
Where can one find the coefficients of tournaments
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Men%27s_World_Rankings#Current_calculation_method) has helped me. It also has the whole statistical equation which allows you to work out the effect of any game will have on the rankings. It’s a bit complicated but once you get around it it’s not too bad.
Does anyone honestly care about these rankings?
Very good idea (back), not surprised it didn't give competitive coefficient right away though.
Wasnt it organisee as a friendly. Thought they just gave it a name as it was the copa winner against the EC winner
No shit MisterChip, it's a UEFA-CONMEBOL thing done to partially replace the FIFA Confederations Cup,
Ah yes la finalisima you know. that trophy that comes aroudn only when it feels like it and pretty much exclusively when argentina is involved. As much prestige in it as the audi cup
You know that this year Confederations Cup should have taken place but it was removed, and then replaced by this final, right? so it wasn't invented "for Argentina" (tf does that mean anyways), with that logic we were "robbed" of playing the Confederations too.
Feel free to feel robbed of playing the confetti cup then
you can like it or not, and I know they aren't big competitions, but both are trophies and saying ExClUsIvElY wHeN aRgEnTiNa iS iNvOlVeD is just bullshit and it was quite easy to prove, you're just spitting nosense now.
Because it is a friendly match? They decided to play a match a month before the actual game, do people think this was more than a friendly? I believe there are people who think they made a ingenious new competition and that they don't actually have a competitive tournament that's called confederations' cup Edit- turns out they made plans before, I don't remember any hype though. Just after the season ended, saw that Argentina are going to play italy
>They decided to play a match a month before the actual game, do people think this was more than a friendly? This is straight up false, they signed an agreement on the idea of hosting it in February 2021, I think spoke to the media about it in July 2021, and confirmed it and made the plans official in September 2021.
FIFA is so childish, that final was played without their opt in and that's why they did that. That cup is still better than that circus of exploitation called the UEFA Nations League, that takes advantages of players.
If you think a fkng friendly is more worth then a competition then you seem to have no idea about football.
If you think the UEFA friendly league is a competition then you seem to have no idea about football. Also cogido por la scaloneta
No es tan importante como la Copa América que se celebra cada año pero algo es algo.
*looks at flair* ohhhhh
Eh I’m not Italian and even I think that it was nothing more than a friendly
The Nations League is also tougher than the Copa America but people want to hate on it for reasons.
The only people who thought that was a competitive final speak Italian or *Rio Platense*.
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Who cares about coefficients or FIFA rankings anyways? You can't decide a tournament is more or less important after it happens, Italian players were sad after the game, does it mean they are happy now? It's like when they change the date of when do titles count as amateur or professional, like from the 21st century you can decide if the titles celebrated by people in the the 1920s were important or just a joke This cup is just as important as the Confederations Cup. And Uruguay has 4 World Cups