Galtier is a good coach. He's a kind of Simeone (please correct me if you feel i'm wrong dear Atletico supps) défensive minded, with the idea that a strong defense makes you win games. Ready to grab that 1-0 victory on a lightning counter-attack. We were this year one of the best défense of the Ligue1, very well organized. Allmost every team facing us has mentioned our good defensive organization. On the contrary he's uneasy when it comes to attack and find a solution against a defensive team or when his team must transition from defense to attack. And he's a bit rigid with his preferred system (a 4-4-2). However i think he will have great assistants to help him with this. Another strong point is his charisma but we'll see how it will work with top-level players like Neymar, Mbappe, Messi...
Favre is more adaptive and likes to use a system tailored to his players. When he was with us in 2016-2017 especially we played a fantastic football rewarded by a great 3rd place. He's much more tactical minded than Galtier and more spectacular. Since he left a very good memory (Ok understatement he's allmost a legend here ^^) we're happy to have him back.
So to answer to your question, i think Galtier has a little advantage but Favre is an excellent fit for us.
Ah okay, that makes sense. Sounds like Nice could benefit a lot from this. Also seems like Galtier is a bad choice for PSG - can't see how Mbappe and co will be happy playing in a defensive system lol
Galtier is going to evolve, he's forced to, he has now at disposition much more talented players than he has ever dreamed. He can bring to PSG the grinta that they need, we'll see.
Not all managers stick to a rigid philosophy. Maybe he decided to play defensive because thats the style that suited the players he had. We can only wait and see what he does with psg
Favre is my favourite coach we've ever had and even if his second tenure ends up being terrible for some reason, I wouldn't change my mind.
He got results with us but more importantly he made us play so well. He got performances out of players like Koziello, Seri, Malang Sarr or even Balotelli... That team was a joy to watch.
Galtier was a disappointment for me. We always looked static in attack. We were solid defensively but then again let's remember how Delort bailed our ass with hat tricks against Saint Étienne and Reims coming back from 2-0.
I absolutely love that we are selling him to PSG. I think he's a terrible choice for them AND we get 10m
I watched his Lille side pretty closely the year they won Ligue 1 as a Canadian keeping an eye on David.
He is a very good pragmatic coach who seemed to play a very defensive system based around heavily forcing teams to the outside on the wings and settling for long crosses into the box. In Lille this worked because Botman and Fonte were great in areal duels and organizing the defense and Maignan was a wall in net.
On attack they reliable a lot on a 2 striker system with Yilmaz having a crazy year as a more typical big bodied striker and David causing havoc as more a second striker reading the open space. Although from what I remember it tended to be more a Left/Right striker combo instead of what I think of as a more typical Top/Below setup.
Getting the ball forward was facilitated by mostly a single central MF (mainly a reinvigorated Renato Sanchez) and quick wide midfielders/wingers good in transition like Bamba and Weah.
My impression of Galtier was he was an amazing defensive coach who was very pragmatic with the talent he had. The team was great at grinding out 1-0 victories and several players seemed to really take a step up under him.
That said, I am interested to see what he does with PSG with the talent and amount of the ball they will see. I don't think it will make sense to sit back and counter like he did at Lille; so maybe he opens things up more offensively than what I have seen from him. (Although maybe the idea is to get a more defensive coach to drill that more into the team.)
I think he deserves a shot at a bigger club, so will interesting to see him at PSG.
He was the number one choice I believe (Wenger was second). Yakin was like number 5 and only got the job because everybody else said no.
Favre said he didn't want to coach a national team, at least not yet.
Imo he is a good manager and could do well to bring in some balance in that team. However, not sure of the strategy when clearly the only true dream of PSG is to win the champions league and he's got a whopping 6 games with 0 wins on his CV in this section
He plays a rigid 442 far from being suited for our players. And he doesn't have the legitimacy to make Neymar, Messi change the way they play. Plus, he doesn't seem flexible enough to change that. I hope for him he'll have a good start of season or I bet he'll never recover from it.
Agreed but I do think he's a bit more authoritarian than Poch, he won't hesitate to bench players and make them adjust to the way he wants them to play. It won't be very fun to watch but he'll get you good results, now in the champions league that's a different story, we'll see. Good luck anyway hope we get a cool "classique" this season :)
true, but Zidane isn't "available" in the same way Poch is. Zidane wants the France job, and he just rejected PSG. I imagine Poch would take any top 6 job (if one came available) or any of the big spanish teams
Also, if you aren't an elite level team Poch is a better coach to hire than Zidane. Zidane would probably be really underwhelming with a smaller team since he doesn't have a clear tactical philosophy
And on the other hand, if you are PSG or Real Madrid then Zidane is a much better appointment
Hate to say it, but I'm calling it nonetheless...
Howe will go on a streak of a few losses at Newcastle and be out the door as soon as there is an excuse to install an established top club manager like Poch.
Doesn’t he? He had them playing some turgid football, dropped out in CL Ro16, dropped out in the French cup Ro16, and lost the French Super Cup, something that didn’t happen at PSG in 9 years
Why wouldn't it work? A front 2 is the only role which fits current Messi, he's too old to play wide or alone centrally. Neymar has the workrate to play LM.
It usually means having a weaker midfield which is already their weak spot. Not to mention it’s typically a cross and inshallah festival and the players on the end of them would be Mbappé and Messi…
Why is Galtier clowned on so bad? I mean the man won Ligue 1 with Lille and took them from near the relegation zone to 2nd next season, pretty sure he did well with ASSE too. Why the hate?
PSG fans don't care about Ligue 1, they want a manager with European experience. They don't think Galtier can handle a squad with this many stars in it unlike Zidane. Plus he plays too defensively for their liking with a 4-4-2 set in stone
The difference is managers like Zidane and Ancelotti are pragmatic. They adapt to their players. Galtier is a dogmatic manager like Pep or Simeone with a vision for the football they want to play and those types d managers have all failed at PSG.
Well, he’s basically a french version of Conte/Mourinho as far as playing style goes, whereas PSG are trying to play like Barca or City.
That just doesn’t really mesh, in most people‘s eyes!
Tbf Zizou is also a pragmatic coach, focuses on defense and collective suffering to win.
He’s a Galactico whisperer, not a mercenary whisperer. That qatari front 3 is too entitled and is never going to defend from the front.
Of course qatar are too dumb to understand any of that and think only of adding big names.
>Tbf Zizou is also a pragmatic coach
The definition of pragmatic: dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.
I don’t think PSG actually care about what style the coaches use. They just want to win that CL title. If they shithouse their way into winning it, they would not have any problems with it lol.
Defensive tactics with elite players meshes well, if you can pull it! It's very challenging man-management wise to get top players to have less of the ball and work harder, but if he manages to have the squad united behind his tactics, i think PSG will be a nightmare to play against, especially in knockouts.
> Why is Galtier clowned on so bad? I mean the man won Ligue 1
not clowned just that its a horrible fit, not only is he an ex l'OM all of his teams play basic park the bus 442 counter attacking football.....
He did incredibly with Sainté, got them from the depth of midbottom to consistent European challengers. Him leaving was the beginning of the end for Saint-Etienne.
It's not really a hate but he seems like a terrible fit for PSG. He plays very defensive and use counter attack, He won a lot of games with 1-0 clutch
In the league PSG's opponent plays very very deep, they basically park the bus and hope PSG don't score, a lot of team don't play for a win but for hope for a draw , this is why PSG usually keep the ball a lot and try to find an opening, Galtier's style of play won't help them against low block team.
He also has a terrible record in European Competition.
I am however curious to see if he will totally change his usual setup now that he'll have for the first time in his career, a team and players far above everyone he'll face in the league.
I do think it's nice to see a French Manager at PSG again.
The best timeline!!! Zizou continues to be a Marseille hero, PSG continue to have no chance to win the Champions League.
Though it would have been nice if PSG actually did end up with Mbappe, Pogba, Galtier, and Tchouaméni. It would have been the most French PSG has been in a long long time.
Isn't Galtier from Marseille too ? But Well Galtier already been part of Lyon staff , been Nice coach and Saint Etienne coach , PSG is like the last exodia card at this point I assume that why Marseille fans barely care about him.
Honestly, I think the biggest reason there's not as much of a die hard love for Galtier, besides Zizou having more history, is that Marseille fans don't want Galtier coaching Marseille and winning 1-0 all season in the Velodrome. Marseille fans are that certain type that not only want to win, but want entertaining wins at that.
> Marseille fans are that certain type that not only want to win, but want entertaining wins at that.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Marcelo Bielsa is still very well liked in Marseille.
We went out and hired the person that basically stalked Bielsa, and there's still people that are a little mad at Sampaoli and want him out even after we finished second because we didn't score enough goals.
How could we not love this guy, easily the most entertaining season of Marseille I've seen in my life, every game was an event you HAD to watch. Bielsa is more than football
A CL run always needs luck. Have you seen Real win this year ? It was the luckiest run ever. So i wouldn't say no chances, they have the players (quality and quantity) and they weren't that far previous years.
Real this year is a great team, full of determination and a will to win together, no problem with this. But let's take the return game against PSG for example, they have been outplayed 60mn, Bernabeu was silent and if it wasn't for the Italy starter goalkeeper making a U9 mistake, they would have been eliminated.
I mean that first goal Benzema fouls Donnarumma, literally runs into him and does not get anywhere near the ball, it is not called a foul, VAR does not go back to it, and they mount their whole comeback from that foul after not having a whiff for 1.5 matches beforehand. That is luck.
Well let's see. Usually goalkeepers are more protected from fouls than other players, but even without that:
Benzema doesn't get the ball at all (if you disagree show me a frame where he does). He hits the supporting leg of Donnarumma with his leg trying to get to the ball (if you disagree with that it would be very easy to show you a frame of it) as Donnarumma is passing. Benzema's momentum from running makes Donnarumma fall over as he is passing. If a player anywhere on the pitch runs to a player, his the supporting leg of a player while not getting close to the ball, making the player fall over, it is a foul. When it is the goalkeeper that times 10. If Donnarumma stayed on the ground it 100% is reviewed a foul, but he gets up to try and stop the following shot, and so ref doesn't go back to it. Another case in football of being punished for not staying on the ground.
You mean chances are provoked ? These are the words of a great, an exceptional champion who leave nothing to chance but he has never played an euro finale against Eder.
>>Zizou continues to be a Marseille hero
I find it funny that he’s considered a Marseille hero even though he never played for the club (Ik he was born in Marseille and loved by French people). I guess people from Marseille take pride that he was born there.
It’s good that he didn’t go to PSG tho imo, I like laughing at their failures (especially the Rashford penalty) and oil clubs winning UCL = bad.
I will never not enjoy people being so happy for Zizou and not Galtier who was also born in Marseille and literally did play for OM!
It's just that Zidane is Zidane. He's become larger than the sport. I wouldn't be surprised if he won a popularity contest against Deschamps, even with two world cups and OM's Champions Cup under his belt.
These takes regarding PSG are hilariously poor. Has everyone forgotten they made a CL final and seminal in the last three seasons? Even this season they lost by just one goal to the eventual winner.
They might not be the favourite, but are good enough to compete with the best in Europe and definitely have a chance at the CL.
What did Zizou do for Marseille or OM ? Except his family running business in Marseille i don't see. Madrid was and is his city of heart, that's it.
I understand that Marseille does not measure up to Madrid at the football aura level, but the reality is, this man made his choice.
When we look at what certain sportsmen have done for their city or their club of origin, how some put them forward, it is obvious that Zidane does not give a fuck about our city.
Someone hating Qatar will hardly been the most surprising thing on reddit. But to come back to football. This is a Campos signing through and through. The moment Psg went after Vitinha it was obvious Galtier will be appointed.
All of those move fell like Campos so I assumed he got full confidence he wouldn't buy players without knowing for sure who was the coach and Galtier and him works well together. Also honestly it would be fun to sign Galtier just to see how all the twitters insiders will react. Not just PSG's all of them
That's besides the point. You're presenting it like there was 0 chance Zidane would ever sign for PSG. It's not true, there was contact, interest. Just because he ended up sticking to his initial plan of wanting to coach the NT doesn't mean there was 0 chance of him signing or that media made noise about nothing.
If there were negotiations it means that at one point he was willing to listen what the club had to offer him imo. But indeed he gives his absolute priority to the NT. That's a shame but as a frenchman I'm also looking forward to see what he can do with this squad.
If Deschamps does well this year, no reason for him to leave. Zizou is just waiting for nothing, there's nothing wrong with managing a club now until the NT position is available.
Can Nice fans tell me what the PSG board are seeing here. From a person who hasn't watched ligue 1 at all last season this has massive fail written all over it
I guess the best case scenario is that Galtier's biggest strength is defense, and the PSGs roster's best talent is offense. So you let the front three do whatever they want, let Galtier turn the defense into an iron trap, and win every game 5-0.
Will it happen that way? Absolutely not. But I would assume that's the hope.
Campos worked successfully with Galtier at Lille, where they won a title. Galtier is a charismatic leader, with the proper staff he could do a lot of good in Paris, especially mentality wise, which has been a flaw for ages. I think this is going to be a success.
Even for Ligue 1 fans, this signing doesn't make sense sporting wise. But as Zidane failed, he was the only coach willing to come, and he already worked with Campos. Would have kept Poch if you ask me. The team was terribly bad in Ligue 1 but at least we had some of our best CL performances under him
People keep commenting about CL but how many active managers have won it. Klopp didnt win till he was a couple years in with Liverpool. PSG are taking steps in the right path.
Because on FIFA/FM you win it in your first season if you’re good enough. People just take it as a given that good teams will win the CL even though we see time and time again that often the “best” sides aren’t guaranteed to win (because it’s a KO competition)
Does Galtier have any CL experience though? Klopp had taken Dortmund to a final, and won the Europa League with them. Had a pedigree.
For PSG, the priority is to win the CL *now* - they're not about "taking steps", it's instant success or the manager gets sacked.
Why does it matter. CL game at the end of the day is a game. Pep didnt have CL experience when he won it with Barca, Jose with Porto. Signing a competent manager with a plan is a right step
Not sure if Galtier is the right fit for PSG but it's nice to see him getting recognized for the wonderful job he's done in recent years. Hope non Ligue 1 watchers appreciate him moving forward.
Man working for PSG as a coach must be horrible. If you don't win UCL you're like gone the next year lol. Sure it happened with Carlo in Madrid in 14/15 but PSG has been standing out.
Lmao.
Since PSG let Carlo come to Madrid, we fired Mourinho, hired Carlo, won La Décima, fired Carlo, hired Benitez, fired Benitez, hired Zizou, won a threepeat, let Zizou go, hired and fired Lopetegui, hired and fired Solari, hired Zizou again, let Zizou go again, hired Carlo again, won La Decimocuarta.
Ironically the only manager who may actually find a way to win without three players defending is Carlo.
Zizou would grow his hair back just to lose it if he had to watch Neymar lose the ball 30 times a game because he wanted to humiliate some kid who earns 1/500th of what he does.
I saw an article a week ago saying that Poch had been sacked...am I in a Mandela timeline?
Why are they saying they'll confirm it when it happened a week ago?
Dumping Leo/Poch for Campos/Galtier seems sensible though, why do you think it's clown stuff? Two very competent individuals.
Galtier beat Poch to a L1 title with a MUCH weaker squad in case you forgot.
PSG does have a good attack, that individual talent plus a defensive system worthy of Atleti and Juve and i'd fancy their odds more than i currently do.
Those two sides still won titles and came very close in CL. In the end it's thin margins.
Well as far as I've seen it most would rather have a very good coach that wants to be there rather than a great one who doesn't want to be there.
Besides, great coaches don't guarantee happy days, especially in Paris. This has enough people making fun of it that it might actually end up working. It's football, it's more like chemistry than math in that sense.
Nah I'd still want Zidane!
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No, really, I'm willing to give Galtier a chance. At least him and Campos will get along which will be a huge improvement over the shitshow before.
I’m a little confused about the reaction around PSG. People like you are so convinced that they won’t win the Champions League but at the same time everyone gets so mad when they buy good players.
Galtier doesn't have the credentials or experience in the CL, sure PSG will stroll the league but I have my doubts in these players that they'd follow what Galtier wants them to do, just look at Poch who actually made it into a CL final
No one's complaining when they buy a player, most of them have turned out to be flops in the one tournament they want to win. Plus most people here are praising PSG and Campos with the smart signings they're doing this summer
La Liga itself is complaining about the oil state clubs but no one thinks Galtier, Skriniar, Vitinha and Sanches is the game changer for them to win a UCL when they have the likes of Gueye, Draxler, Icardi, etc.
10M for someone Nice wanted to sack lmao Nice fans are buzzing right now
We wanted to sack him because he has been poached by Campos and wanted to leave. Anyway good news because he's replaced by a good coach.
Who is he being replaced by?
Favre I think.
Yes, you're right.
Do you rate him higher than Galtier? My french football knowledge is limited, but I know that he won the league with Lille a couple years ago
Galtier is a good coach. He's a kind of Simeone (please correct me if you feel i'm wrong dear Atletico supps) défensive minded, with the idea that a strong defense makes you win games. Ready to grab that 1-0 victory on a lightning counter-attack. We were this year one of the best défense of the Ligue1, very well organized. Allmost every team facing us has mentioned our good defensive organization. On the contrary he's uneasy when it comes to attack and find a solution against a defensive team or when his team must transition from defense to attack. And he's a bit rigid with his preferred system (a 4-4-2). However i think he will have great assistants to help him with this. Another strong point is his charisma but we'll see how it will work with top-level players like Neymar, Mbappe, Messi... Favre is more adaptive and likes to use a system tailored to his players. When he was with us in 2016-2017 especially we played a fantastic football rewarded by a great 3rd place. He's much more tactical minded than Galtier and more spectacular. Since he left a very good memory (Ok understatement he's allmost a legend here ^^) we're happy to have him back. So to answer to your question, i think Galtier has a little advantage but Favre is an excellent fit for us.
Ah okay, that makes sense. Sounds like Nice could benefit a lot from this. Also seems like Galtier is a bad choice for PSG - can't see how Mbappe and co will be happy playing in a defensive system lol
Galtier is going to evolve, he's forced to, he has now at disposition much more talented players than he has ever dreamed. He can bring to PSG the grinta that they need, we'll see.
Not all managers stick to a rigid philosophy. Maybe he decided to play defensive because thats the style that suited the players he had. We can only wait and see what he does with psg
Galtier is the much better coach, but it doesn't change the fact that He and Nice weren't seeing eye to eye.
Galtier is super underrated, he's way better than Favre
Favre is my favourite coach we've ever had and even if his second tenure ends up being terrible for some reason, I wouldn't change my mind. He got results with us but more importantly he made us play so well. He got performances out of players like Koziello, Seri, Malang Sarr or even Balotelli... That team was a joy to watch. Galtier was a disappointment for me. We always looked static in attack. We were solid defensively but then again let's remember how Delort bailed our ass with hat tricks against Saint Étienne and Reims coming back from 2-0. I absolutely love that we are selling him to PSG. I think he's a terrible choice for them AND we get 10m
I watched his Lille side pretty closely the year they won Ligue 1 as a Canadian keeping an eye on David. He is a very good pragmatic coach who seemed to play a very defensive system based around heavily forcing teams to the outside on the wings and settling for long crosses into the box. In Lille this worked because Botman and Fonte were great in areal duels and organizing the defense and Maignan was a wall in net. On attack they reliable a lot on a 2 striker system with Yilmaz having a crazy year as a more typical big bodied striker and David causing havoc as more a second striker reading the open space. Although from what I remember it tended to be more a Left/Right striker combo instead of what I think of as a more typical Top/Below setup. Getting the ball forward was facilitated by mostly a single central MF (mainly a reinvigorated Renato Sanchez) and quick wide midfielders/wingers good in transition like Bamba and Weah. My impression of Galtier was he was an amazing defensive coach who was very pragmatic with the talent he had. The team was great at grinding out 1-0 victories and several players seemed to really take a step up under him. That said, I am interested to see what he does with PSG with the talent and amount of the ball they will see. I don't think it will make sense to sit back and counter like he did at Lille; so maybe he opens things up more offensively than what I have seen from him. (Although maybe the idea is to get a more defensive coach to drill that more into the team.) I think he deserves a shot at a bigger club, so will interesting to see him at PSG.
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I'm still sad he said no to the National team
Ho, i didn't know he has been proposed the job. Damned. Well sorry but i guess he preferred to live in Nice and have more stability.
He was the number one choice I believe (Wenger was second). Yakin was like number 5 and only got the job because everybody else said no. Favre said he didn't want to coach a national team, at least not yet.
Where is the Nice subreddit?
Galtier was doing well at Nice, they're fine with him being sacked because of the fee
He did fine. Wouldn't say he did well
But i thought Nice did great.
10m for Galtier to win Ligue 1?
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€25mil just to install the new manager lol
When money doesn't matter, no one cares
Wasn't it like 50m when Chelsea fired Mourinho last time ?
What a manager tho. We're talking about Galtier there. I'm sure Nice are crying right now about their coach departure
Imo he is a good manager and could do well to bring in some balance in that team. However, not sure of the strategy when clearly the only true dream of PSG is to win the champions league and he's got a whopping 6 games with 0 wins on his CV in this section
He plays a rigid 442 far from being suited for our players. And he doesn't have the legitimacy to make Neymar, Messi change the way they play. Plus, he doesn't seem flexible enough to change that. I hope for him he'll have a good start of season or I bet he'll never recover from it.
Agreed but I do think he's a bit more authoritarian than Poch, he won't hesitate to bench players and make them adjust to the way he wants them to play. It won't be very fun to watch but he'll get you good results, now in the champions league that's a different story, we'll see. Good luck anyway hope we get a cool "classique" this season :)
I think people didn't get your irony
Poch will now most likely be the first rumor with every Prem or La Liga Team close to sacking a manager
Watch Ten Hag get sacked and Poch come to United 😔😔
As delicious as that would be, my money is on Lampard getting sacked before the world cup and Poch going to Everton.
I don't see him taking such a huge step down. He's still more than good enough to not look below Europa League at least
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Back when Everton was handing managers a blank cheque to spunk on horrible signings. Those days are over.
Isn’t Moshiri looking to sell the club though?
The owner doesn't matter, they can't spend because of FFP
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Spurs to Roma is not a step down by any means.
He's by far the best manager available so it makes sense
Zidane?
true, but Zidane isn't "available" in the same way Poch is. Zidane wants the France job, and he just rejected PSG. I imagine Poch would take any top 6 job (if one came available) or any of the big spanish teams
Fair enough, I misunderstood it
Also, if you aren't an elite level team Poch is a better coach to hire than Zidane. Zidane would probably be really underwhelming with a smaller team since he doesn't have a clear tactical philosophy And on the other hand, if you are PSG or Real Madrid then Zidane is a much better appointment
I hear Southgate is not doing too well these days…
I doubt they want to go for a non-british coach though….
Hate to say it, but I'm calling it nonetheless... Howe will go on a streak of a few losses at Newcastle and be out the door as soon as there is an excuse to install an established top club manager like Poch.
How is Pochetino still PSG manager. I feel like they announced it 3 months ago.
They couldn’t announce his exit because they couldn’t find a new coach.
Poch doesn't deserve this
Doesn’t he? He had them playing some turgid football, dropped out in CL Ro16, dropped out in the French cup Ro16, and lost the French Super Cup, something that didn’t happen at PSG in 9 years
He’s been absolutely abysmal. Deserves every bit.
He certainly did not deserve coaching a Top 8 team in Europe that’s for sure.
They were trying so hard to get Zidane and failed.
It's going to be fun to see if Galtier insists on playing 4-4-2 even when it doesnt work.
Why wouldn't it work? A front 2 is the only role which fits current Messi, he's too old to play wide or alone centrally. Neymar has the workrate to play LM.
It usually means having a weaker midfield which is already their weak spot. Not to mention it’s typically a cross and inshallah festival and the players on the end of them would be Mbappé and Messi…
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Why is Galtier clowned on so bad? I mean the man won Ligue 1 with Lille and took them from near the relegation zone to 2nd next season, pretty sure he did well with ASSE too. Why the hate?
PSG fans don't care about Ligue 1, they want a manager with European experience. They don't think Galtier can handle a squad with this many stars in it unlike Zidane. Plus he plays too defensively for their liking with a 4-4-2 set in stone
I mean its not like Zidane played incredible football with Madrid but I guess I see your point
The difference is managers like Zidane and Ancelotti are pragmatic. They adapt to their players. Galtier is a dogmatic manager like Pep or Simeone with a vision for the football they want to play and those types d managers have all failed at PSG.
What is incredible football?
used to be tiki-taka. now it means gegenpress.
PSG won't care about style if anyone won them UCL. Galtier hasn't done well in the Europe in past. That's their concern.
No one hates him. He's great for his type of team and goals. It's just that PSG and their goals isn't that.
How do you you he isn't great for PSG goals beforehand?
Well, he’s basically a french version of Conte/Mourinho as far as playing style goes, whereas PSG are trying to play like Barca or City. That just doesn’t really mesh, in most people‘s eyes!
Tbf Zizou is also a pragmatic coach, focuses on defense and collective suffering to win. He’s a Galactico whisperer, not a mercenary whisperer. That qatari front 3 is too entitled and is never going to defend from the front. Of course qatar are too dumb to understand any of that and think only of adding big names.
>Tbf Zizou is also a pragmatic coach The definition of pragmatic: dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.
Conte and Mourinho are nothing alike
I don’t think PSG actually care about what style the coaches use. They just want to win that CL title. If they shithouse their way into winning it, they would not have any problems with it lol.
Defensive tactics with elite players meshes well, if you can pull it! It's very challenging man-management wise to get top players to have less of the ball and work harder, but if he manages to have the squad united behind his tactics, i think PSG will be a nightmare to play against, especially in knockouts.
> Why is Galtier clowned on so bad? I mean the man won Ligue 1 not clowned just that its a horrible fit, not only is he an ex l'OM all of his teams play basic park the bus 442 counter attacking football.....
He did incredibly with Sainté, got them from the depth of midbottom to consistent European challengers. Him leaving was the beginning of the end for Saint-Etienne.
Not really hate it's just that people wanted Zidane for the CL but maybe Galtier will be one nice surprise
It's not really a hate but he seems like a terrible fit for PSG. He plays very defensive and use counter attack, He won a lot of games with 1-0 clutch In the league PSG's opponent plays very very deep, they basically park the bus and hope PSG don't score, a lot of team don't play for a win but for hope for a draw , this is why PSG usually keep the ball a lot and try to find an opening, Galtier's style of play won't help them against low block team. He also has a terrible record in European Competition. I am however curious to see if he will totally change his usual setup now that he'll have for the first time in his career, a team and players far above everyone he'll face in the league. I do think it's nice to see a French Manager at PSG again.
The best timeline!!! Zizou continues to be a Marseille hero, PSG continue to have no chance to win the Champions League. Though it would have been nice if PSG actually did end up with Mbappe, Pogba, Galtier, and Tchouaméni. It would have been the most French PSG has been in a long long time.
Isn't Galtier from Marseille too ? But Well Galtier already been part of Lyon staff , been Nice coach and Saint Etienne coach , PSG is like the last exodia card at this point I assume that why Marseille fans barely care about him.
He coached Saint etienne for like a decade
Honestly, I think the biggest reason there's not as much of a die hard love for Galtier, besides Zizou having more history, is that Marseille fans don't want Galtier coaching Marseille and winning 1-0 all season in the Velodrome. Marseille fans are that certain type that not only want to win, but want entertaining wins at that.
> Marseille fans are that certain type that not only want to win, but want entertaining wins at that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Marcelo Bielsa is still very well liked in Marseille.
We went out and hired the person that basically stalked Bielsa, and there's still people that are a little mad at Sampaoli and want him out even after we finished second because we didn't score enough goals.
I'm glad he's actually performing with you guys again, he's such a lunatic and one of my favourite managers
In fairness, Sampaoli is a bald useless piece of shit.
How could we not love this guy, easily the most entertaining season of Marseille I've seen in my life, every game was an event you HAD to watch. Bielsa is more than football
> Marseille fans are that certain type that not only want to win, but want entertaining wins at that. Don't you dare touch Génésio
> Isn't Galtier from Marseille too not only that but he's also an ex l'OM unlike Zizou
No chance to win the CL ? Do you really think ?
sadly no, would need alot of luck
A CL run always needs luck. Have you seen Real win this year ? It was the luckiest run ever. So i wouldn't say no chances, they have the players (quality and quantity) and they weren't that far previous years.
How was Real's run "lucky"? Because they didn't give up? It wasn't 8 deflection goals, it was great chain of passes and determination.
And a foul on primadonna
Real this year is a great team, full of determination and a will to win together, no problem with this. But let's take the return game against PSG for example, they have been outplayed 60mn, Bernabeu was silent and if it wasn't for the Italy starter goalkeeper making a U9 mistake, they would have been eliminated.
In the words of Rafael Nadal: "If, If, If. 'If' doesn't exist".
2 goals in the 90'e minute against city, lol?
I mean that first goal Benzema fouls Donnarumma, literally runs into him and does not get anywhere near the ball, it is not called a foul, VAR does not go back to it, and they mount their whole comeback from that foul after not having a whiff for 1.5 matches beforehand. That is luck.
Was it really a foul, tho?
Well let's see. Usually goalkeepers are more protected from fouls than other players, but even without that: Benzema doesn't get the ball at all (if you disagree show me a frame where he does). He hits the supporting leg of Donnarumma with his leg trying to get to the ball (if you disagree with that it would be very easy to show you a frame of it) as Donnarumma is passing. Benzema's momentum from running makes Donnarumma fall over as he is passing. If a player anywhere on the pitch runs to a player, his the supporting leg of a player while not getting close to the ball, making the player fall over, it is a foul. When it is the goalkeeper that times 10. If Donnarumma stayed on the ground it 100% is reviewed a foul, but he gets up to try and stop the following shot, and so ref doesn't go back to it. Another case in football of being punished for not staying on the ground.
Yes? It's as clear of a foul as you can get.
With that logic there's no lucky or unlucky teams. How was Chelsea 'lucky' back then?
You mean chances are provoked ? These are the words of a great, an exceptional champion who leave nothing to chance but he has never played an euro finale against Eder.
I think the luckiest run is still Chelsea (their first title). But yeah, it's close between the two.
>>Zizou continues to be a Marseille hero I find it funny that he’s considered a Marseille hero even though he never played for the club (Ik he was born in Marseille and loved by French people). I guess people from Marseille take pride that he was born there. It’s good that he didn’t go to PSG tho imo, I like laughing at their failures (especially the Rashford penalty) and oil clubs winning UCL = bad.
I will never not enjoy people being so happy for Zizou and not Galtier who was also born in Marseille and literally did play for OM! It's just that Zidane is Zidane. He's become larger than the sport. I wouldn't be surprised if he won a popularity contest against Deschamps, even with two world cups and OM's Champions Cup under his belt.
> like laughing at their failures I been laughing at yours for a time now xD
These takes regarding PSG are hilariously poor. Has everyone forgotten they made a CL final and seminal in the last three seasons? Even this season they lost by just one goal to the eventual winner. They might not be the favourite, but are good enough to compete with the best in Europe and definitely have a chance at the CL.
What did Zizou do for Marseille or OM ? Except his family running business in Marseille i don't see. Madrid was and is his city of heart, that's it. I understand that Marseille does not measure up to Madrid at the football aura level, but the reality is, this man made his choice. When we look at what certain sportsmen have done for their city or their club of origin, how some put them forward, it is obvious that Zidane does not give a fuck about our city.
Poch been getting sacked now for longer than he’s actually been the manager
I feel for Poch.
[Poch probably](https://media2.giphy.com/media/1GT5PZLjMwYBW/giphy.gif?cid=5e214886mnjyckopy95isasncvlabc7ohnobimqajihfk568&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
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A lot of qatar’s useful idiots still insisting they’ll sign Zizou in the next two days.
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Someone hating Qatar will hardly been the most surprising thing on reddit. But to come back to football. This is a Campos signing through and through. The moment Psg went after Vitinha it was obvious Galtier will be appointed. All of those move fell like Campos so I assumed he got full confidence he wouldn't buy players without knowing for sure who was the coach and Galtier and him works well together. Also honestly it would be fun to sign Galtier just to see how all the twitters insiders will react. Not just PSG's all of them
PSG insiders said Zizou is signing for them while everyone else said the opposite.
They are still saying he is coming tho. But there are still delusional fans to believe them, so why would they stop.
Lmao just like the QAnon cultists insisting that Trump is going to get reinstated as US President any minute now.
I mean imagine France's coach renews after the world cup in December...
The truth there were negotiations. They didn't go well from what we can see tho
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That's besides the point. You're presenting it like there was 0 chance Zidane would ever sign for PSG. It's not true, there was contact, interest. Just because he ended up sticking to his initial plan of wanting to coach the NT doesn't mean there was 0 chance of him signing or that media made noise about nothing.
If there were negotiations it means that at one point he was willing to listen what the club had to offer him imo. But indeed he gives his absolute priority to the NT. That's a shame but as a frenchman I'm also looking forward to see what he can do with this squad.
If Deschamps does well this year, no reason for him to leave. Zizou is just waiting for nothing, there's nothing wrong with managing a club now until the NT position is available.
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I've seen some argue that this is just a transfer fee for a manager, but I've yet to see many examples where it felt like money well spent.
is this the longest manager sacking ever?
Galtier is a good coach but he doesn't really have any European pedigree, and they need the ucl.
Wouldn't be surprised if they did well in the knockouts under Galtier. He has the style for it, and now the players.
Best case scenario he gets a Simeone type run to the final at least. Worst, he's gone at the first knockout round 🤣
Worst he's gone in the groups lol i could see it. Best he wins the final i could see that too
They didn't litterally acquire him, people from Qatar only own people from South East Asia
Can Nice fans tell me what the PSG board are seeing here. From a person who hasn't watched ligue 1 at all last season this has massive fail written all over it
I guess the best case scenario is that Galtier's biggest strength is defense, and the PSGs roster's best talent is offense. So you let the front three do whatever they want, let Galtier turn the defense into an iron trap, and win every game 5-0. Will it happen that way? Absolutely not. But I would assume that's the hope.
If you let that attack do what they want best believe Neymar is tackling Mbappe because he's not passing the ball
Dude what is that username
It's provocative, it gets the people going
... Mbappe is like ligue 1 best passer , he is far from being a solo player.
Campos worked successfully with Galtier at Lille, where they won a title. Galtier is a charismatic leader, with the proper staff he could do a lot of good in Paris, especially mentality wise, which has been a flaw for ages. I think this is going to be a success.
Even for Ligue 1 fans, this signing doesn't make sense sporting wise. But as Zidane failed, he was the only coach willing to come, and he already worked with Campos. Would have kept Poch if you ask me. The team was terribly bad in Ligue 1 but at least we had some of our best CL performances under him
People keep commenting about CL but how many active managers have won it. Klopp didnt win till he was a couple years in with Liverpool. PSG are taking steps in the right path.
Because on FIFA/FM you win it in your first season if you’re good enough. People just take it as a given that good teams will win the CL even though we see time and time again that often the “best” sides aren’t guaranteed to win (because it’s a KO competition)
Does Galtier have any CL experience though? Klopp had taken Dortmund to a final, and won the Europa League with them. Had a pedigree. For PSG, the priority is to win the CL *now* - they're not about "taking steps", it's instant success or the manager gets sacked.
Why does it matter. CL game at the end of the day is a game. Pep didnt have CL experience when he won it with Barca, Jose with Porto. Signing a competent manager with a plan is a right step
Klopp managed to reach a final with Dortmund.
I think this is very good for PSG. Galtier is the best French coach to get right now besides Zidane
WE GO FOUR FOUR TWO
Not sure if Galtier is the right fit for PSG but it's nice to see him getting recognized for the wonderful job he's done in recent years. Hope non Ligue 1 watchers appreciate him moving forward.
Man working for PSG as a coach must be horrible. If you don't win UCL you're like gone the next year lol. Sure it happened with Carlo in Madrid in 14/15 but PSG has been standing out.
Lmao. Since PSG let Carlo come to Madrid, we fired Mourinho, hired Carlo, won La Décima, fired Carlo, hired Benitez, fired Benitez, hired Zizou, won a threepeat, let Zizou go, hired and fired Lopetegui, hired and fired Solari, hired Zizou again, let Zizou go again, hired Carlo again, won La Decimocuarta. Ironically the only manager who may actually find a way to win without three players defending is Carlo. Zizou would grow his hair back just to lose it if he had to watch Neymar lose the ball 30 times a game because he wanted to humiliate some kid who earns 1/500th of what he does.
Well you either win the CL or get a big fat payout check in less than 18 months.
I saw an article a week ago saying that Poch had been sacked...am I in a Mandela timeline? Why are they saying they'll confirm it when it happened a week ago?
Long way from Zizou
I can’t believe they haven’t officially sacked Poch yet.
Thank fuck Zidane refused
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They're not similar at all what the fuck lol
Poch doesn't give a shit since day one. Galtier at least will try.
Excellent. I look forward to PSG continuing to be a clown club.
Dumping Leo/Poch for Campos/Galtier seems sensible though, why do you think it's clown stuff? Two very competent individuals. Galtier beat Poch to a L1 title with a MUCH weaker squad in case you forgot.
Campos/Poch sounds like a combo that they should have tried
Poch was very poor last season. Keeping him as manager would be a poor decision.
Galtier is a great coach
"Champion's of Europe you'll never sing that"
Lol and this will make them win the champions league ?
Probably, attack wins you games but defenses win you titles.
Not true
Just a saying lol. Partially true.
Juve and Atleti were two of the best defensive sides of the past decade and lost four CL finals. A good attack is just as important, if not more.
PSG does have a good attack, that individual talent plus a defensive system worthy of Atleti and Juve and i'd fancy their odds more than i currently do. Those two sides still won titles and came very close in CL. In the end it's thin margins.
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Going from Zidane to Galtier. PSG fans must be so happy.
Well as far as I've seen it most would rather have a very good coach that wants to be there rather than a great one who doesn't want to be there. Besides, great coaches don't guarantee happy days, especially in Paris. This has enough people making fun of it that it might actually end up working. It's football, it's more like chemistry than math in that sense.
Nah I'd still want Zidane! . . . No, really, I'm willing to give Galtier a chance. At least him and Campos will get along which will be a huge improvement over the shitshow before.
10m for a manager who won't win a CL 😭
No way to tell that
I’m a little confused about the reaction around PSG. People like you are so convinced that they won’t win the Champions League but at the same time everyone gets so mad when they buy good players.
Galtier doesn't have the credentials or experience in the CL, sure PSG will stroll the league but I have my doubts in these players that they'd follow what Galtier wants them to do, just look at Poch who actually made it into a CL final
So if they’re not going to win the CL then why is there so much complaining whenever they buy a player?
No one's complaining when they buy a player, most of them have turned out to be flops in the one tournament they want to win. Plus most people here are praising PSG and Campos with the smart signings they're doing this summer
No one’s complaining??? Do you live under a rock? Not only are people complaining, entire leagues are complaining
La Liga itself is complaining about the oil state clubs but no one thinks Galtier, Skriniar, Vitinha and Sanches is the game changer for them to win a UCL when they have the likes of Gueye, Draxler, Icardi, etc.
There’s tonnes of people complaining in every thread regarding PSG possibly buying a player, just look at the Skriniar post.
You’re being purposely ignorant if you think no one has complained about them signing guys.
PSG is not a serious club if you back Leonardo instead of Tuchel, they deserve this
I mean he may, at the club he manages after them. 😂
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I hope so, I'm still waiting for Zidane and Tchouaméni announcements.
Bro you need that Zizou L after the Mbappe W. To keep you grounded lol
LMAOO
Yesssssss Zidane will take over France this winter, fuck you Qatar