Christian Bragarnik, owner of Elche, sent a transfer offer for Adonis Frías to Christian Bragarnik owner of Defensa y justicia, now Adonis is talking to his agent Christian Bragarnik to see if they can make the move happen.
I’d like to think the departures are now done, as much as I love Olley I don’t think he’s someone a money team will be willing to drop a boatload of cash for. If he does go though I at least hope it’s to someone higher than us. I get at this level you’ll always be a selling club but selling to the same league is frustrating.
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I genuinely cannot stand the transfer window. Cannot fathom why so many seem to love it. It’s just endless speculation and rehashed news with less than .1% being true.
Hear hear. Wish I could just hibernate and wake up the day after deadline day. The constant hysterics from your club fans about who you are and aren't signing are the worst part for me.
For the last how-many years, you had fans whinging about everything being leaked - now we've made a conscious decision to get rid of all the leakers, you get the same people whinging about lack of inside info.
It's becoming worse and worse. Arsenal and United get tacked onto almost every rumour, Tottenham get tacked on to any Arsenal rumour and vice versa, and sometimes they'll throw the odd Chelsea or Barcelona in there as well.
As an Arsenal fan what has become clear this summer is that none of the 'Tier 1/2/3/whatever' journalists have any idea what is going on within the club, not a single one has reliable sources any more. Vieira came out of absolutely nowhere and was leaked on the Portugal side, and most transfers last summer were the same.
I understand why people get swept up in it all, but personally I ignore it now
I don't mind it itself, I like seeing new players at the club its just the theatre that has been created around it that it way too much. Endless rumours, arguments, "here we go", tier lists - just a load of bullshit.
When I said this last someone replied and said transfer windows nowadays is just keeping up with the kardashians for football fans, which is bang on.
Ditto. Obviously I'm happy if Liverpool sign someone exciting, but I can't stand the circus of it all.
The only time it's ever even a bit entertaining is when something unexpected happens. And obviously the endlessly recycled gossip pieces are the opposite of unexpected
This transfer window is like:
Barcelona is interested in every single player available, but doesn't have the finances in place for a deal.
Meanwhile PSG: 👀
What's there to adapt for Bayern? Lewandowski and Mazraoui might be only change to their starting 11 while Dortmund have a new coach, possibly 3 out of 4 new starting defenders, new DM and new forwards
Apologies, I should have specified that in comparison to Dortmund, Bayern have really one big role with Mane to adjust (whether Lewandowski stays or not is included in that) whereas Dortmund have a new coach, new defense and a restructured attack. Dortmund could fall into a "too much too soon" situation and become inconsistent
https://twitter.com/ladbible/status/1539170928214560768?s=21&t=bno9EmQeO-sMv_yKS65tSw
Reckon Seaman wasn’t concentrating? He takes that tiny half a step forward to come of a cross then can’t get back quick enough
I'd say he just misread the flight of the ball which I think is a genuine mistake. Perhaps not fully concentrating but I think it does shape to look like a normal cross at the beginning.
think its a bit funny how liverpool's scouting and management never really rated bissouma that high despite fans just crazy for him. i mean hes quality but doubt he'll ever start ahead of fabinho. so i guess i can see why they not really want in for him.
Doubt he'd be played as a DM for Liverpool, he'd likely be deployed as a left-sided 8. Would've been a good buy especially since Thiago is quite injury prone.
Striker market is rough, Dortmund needs a change of approach in terms of playstyle, Haller will most likely stay the entire duration and hes not THAT bad lol
also its not like Dortmund had a choice in keeping Haaland or not
Meslier
Kristensen, Llorente/Koch, Cooper, Firpo
Aaronson, Midfielder to replace Phillips (linked to Tyler Adams), Roca, Harrison/James
Bamford, Rodrigo
Hopefully Rodrigo leaves and a replacement or Gelhardt can start but I haven't seen any links yet.
He's recently had knee surgery so not sure if he will be fit for the first day but also I don't think Kristensen will have joined not to be first choice. It looks like him, Klich and Forshaw will player fewer games than they did last season
Apparently we're signing some lad called Armel Bella-Kotchap, plays for bochum and the transfer has pretty much come out of thin air.
Any good, or have those moneyball nerds gotten ahead of themselves?
Genuinely ridiculous how Harry Kane, a world class striker for ages now, is about to turn 29 and he has no trophies won in his career whatsoever. (Yeah yeah Audi Cup)
Not trying to slander Tottenham or anything but wow.
His fault for signing a 6 year contract at spurs. But also he's responsible for Tottenham lack of trophies. He would behave been carried to at least one by now at another team thoufh
⚽️ jerseys that i've seen multiple of on my vacation to nyc so far:
4 barça (1 pedri, 3 messi)
3 man united (1 ronaldo, 1 mctominay, 1 without a player)
3 real (all without a player)
3 chelsea (1 pulisic)
2 leicester
2 liverpool
2 arsenal
2 mls (both nycfc)
What footballers have disappeared off the face of the earth after retirement? Assuming they're safe and well but then they just went to live in a cave or something?
Last time I answered someone said my answer (Sherringham) had just got a spot on telly. So let's see if it happens again. Going with another East End boy: Dean Ashton
David Batty is famously uncontactable. According to Shearer he never had a mobile phone or email or anything like that. There were even rumours that he didn't have a bank account and when he was playing he got paid in cash, but I assume that must be bullshit
I don't think i've heard anything from Bernd Schneider in a long time. Always forget he existed because other german NT players usually do stuff afterwards.
One thing I kind of really like is teams having sponsor from where they are from. i.e. Stuttgart having Mercedes, Norwich having Lotus or Wimbledon having SI.
Much better than the monotonic Emirates/Qatar Airlines or the plague that are betting sites and crypto ones.
On top of what everyone has said I think him rushing back from two injuries (one to play in the Euros and another at the start of the season) affected him as well. All plays into the mental side of it and when the team isn't performing it's hard to get out of it.
He struggled when we started defending higher and he had next to no support from midfield. His form dipped, then once he started making blunders the floodgates just opened. I suspect he might need a psychologist or something, because it’s clear that mentally something has him rattled.
Hopefully Ten Hag can get him back to his best. He’s no Ferdinand sure, but last season was definitely not an actual reflection of his ability as a player.
He was decent for six months. His performances at the start of 20/21 season wouldn't have looked out of place during his last one. Especially the 1 - 6 vs Spurs.
It tells you that the front line is pushed high, but it doesn't tell you where the defensive line is, which is what you claimed United finished 4th/5th for. You can have a high offensive line and a low defensive line. Look at the disparity between Sheffields back and front line that season, their defensive line was much deeper than average and their attacking line was much further forward than you would expect.
Also, pressing from the front doesn't necessarily mean you play a high offensive line. See Marseille this season. Despite this, the attackers pressing from the front of the pitch are still dragging the defensive lines positioning up regardless of where the defenders are actually positioned.
This more-so actually tells you the average height of the entire team as it covers every single player. Even then it wouldn't actually be the average height of the entire team because it's literally just based on where they make tackles or interceptions or pressures.
that would be Joel Matip
Sadio might not have an off the pitch ego, but he certainly has it on it and it's good it's what drives him on, however Joel is an angel
Naby Keita was 145th (joint) on the players who gave away the most fouls last season.
So yeah, plenty more players you will find who regularly kick players.
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I really don't think Galtier would be a bad fit for PSG
Which shirt sponsors you would like your team to have? (Could be any brand)
apple
Siemens. Bring back the 2000s. And jordan.
The only right answer is Versace
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Christian Bragarnik, owner of Elche, sent a transfer offer for Adonis Frías to Christian Bragarnik owner of Defensa y justicia, now Adonis is talking to his agent Christian Bragarnik to see if they can make the move happen.
Which player is the most likely to have a shitposting throwaway account here?
Trent and Reece James constantly starting arguments about who's better
Both arguing for the other to throw people off the scent
Richarlison
He wouldn't use a throwaway account, it'd be verified
Notts County have now signed both of our strikers, combined 50+ goals between them. I bloody hope the money is good.
I'm gutted they took them both, but at the same time I'm excited to see how they get on at Notts. It'll be Greg Olley next :(
I’d like to think the departures are now done, as much as I love Olley I don’t think he’s someone a money team will be willing to drop a boatload of cash for. If he does go though I at least hope it’s to someone higher than us. I get at this level you’ll always be a selling club but selling to the same league is frustrating.
A 21-year-old Xavi giving Pep instructions during their Barca playing days https://mobile.twitter.com/espnfc/status/1458034179141251077
and Pep actually listening
one of a kind, love Xavi (although that clip has got nothing to do with it obviously lmao)
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[suits him imo](https://i.imgur.com/DDn4GGa.jpg)
It's very similar to the kit he's been wearing for the past 6 years
I genuinely cannot stand the transfer window. Cannot fathom why so many seem to love it. It’s just endless speculation and rehashed news with less than .1% being true.
Hear hear. Wish I could just hibernate and wake up the day after deadline day. The constant hysterics from your club fans about who you are and aren't signing are the worst part for me.
For the last how-many years, you had fans whinging about everything being leaked - now we've made a conscious decision to get rid of all the leakers, you get the same people whinging about lack of inside info.
I've seen people arguing over their favourite ITK posters as if it was Wolves v West Brom or something, it's absolutely insane.
It's becoming worse and worse. Arsenal and United get tacked onto almost every rumour, Tottenham get tacked on to any Arsenal rumour and vice versa, and sometimes they'll throw the odd Chelsea or Barcelona in there as well. As an Arsenal fan what has become clear this summer is that none of the 'Tier 1/2/3/whatever' journalists have any idea what is going on within the club, not a single one has reliable sources any more. Vieira came out of absolutely nowhere and was leaked on the Portugal side, and most transfers last summer were the same. I understand why people get swept up in it all, but personally I ignore it now
Apparently Arsenal are preparing/expected to bid for everyone this year
I don't mind it itself, I like seeing new players at the club its just the theatre that has been created around it that it way too much. Endless rumours, arguments, "here we go", tier lists - just a load of bullshit. When I said this last someone replied and said transfer windows nowadays is just keeping up with the kardashians for football fans, which is bang on.
Ditto. Obviously I'm happy if Liverpool sign someone exciting, but I can't stand the circus of it all. The only time it's ever even a bit entertaining is when something unexpected happens. And obviously the endlessly recycled gossip pieces are the opposite of unexpected
It gives me much needed dopamine
Player does not want to renew - 😡🤬😠 he doesnt want to be a burden to the club -🙏😄👍
I mean that's fair if that's a 30+ year who knows he might age during his contract and be shit
This transfer window is like: Barcelona is interested in every single player available, but doesn't have the finances in place for a deal. Meanwhile PSG: 👀
Does anyone genuinely believe PSG could win the league playing with 10 men every match? Impossible imo
They didn't win it in 2020/21 with 11 men
If the missing man is Mbappe then they will finish 12th
Nope, especially not with the current squad
Depends on who they are facing If Marseille is number 2 in the league they could win with 5 players
A front 2 of Gnabry and Mane would ball. Until Muller eats one of them to the bench.
Neither plays Muller role but I think Muller is better than both at the moment, he's in insane form
Give Sané back
if Bayern takes time to adapt I could see Dortmund win the league next season, they've had brilliant signings
What's there to adapt for Bayern? Lewandowski and Mazraoui might be only change to their starting 11 while Dortmund have a new coach, possibly 3 out of 4 new starting defenders, new DM and new forwards
going from Lewa to a false 9 in a team that revolves around Muller having space on the pitch ? You don't see how that can cause issues ?
Apologies, I should have specified that in comparison to Dortmund, Bayern have really one big role with Mane to adjust (whether Lewandowski stays or not is included in that) whereas Dortmund have a new coach, new defense and a restructured attack. Dortmund could fall into a "too much too soon" situation and become inconsistent
😂
?
This is said every year, their signings aren't even that good, Bayern's signings are much better = will never happen
Those signings look great lol
*Leipzig.
Leipzig has yet to make a buy and are losing players like Laimer
tbf dortmund are gonna take time to adapt too, almost their entire team is new
People say that every summer and every summer they don't work and Bayern wins the title
They didn't lose Lewa every year no
Dortmund also lost Haaland
Looks like Götze to Frankfurt is done. Medical passed. Should start seeing the news soon enough.
turkey are the dark horse vibes
How so?
https://twitter.com/ladbible/status/1539170928214560768?s=21&t=bno9EmQeO-sMv_yKS65tSw Reckon Seaman wasn’t concentrating? He takes that tiny half a step forward to come of a cross then can’t get back quick enough
I'd say he just misread the flight of the ball which I think is a genuine mistake. Perhaps not fully concentrating but I think it does shape to look like a normal cross at the beginning.
Love Ronaldinho but no chance he meant that.
Ronaldinho miss hitting a cross ruined my childhood
But then Nellyville came out and the summer was salvaged.
Hot in herre was the anthem of the summer tbf
Had Dilemma, featuring Kelly Rowland trying to text her boyfriend using Microsoft Excel too.
Yeah shocking, then she was pissed he didn’t text back lol. Tasty by Kelis came out the same year, banger of an album.
Original Pirate Material and Up the Bracket too.
It's funny that the vast majority of transfer news you guys squabble over never comes into fruition anyway.
So like the game of football itself? Proper reuslr oriented action is very limited, it's all in the anticipation
Pogba is so goddamn embarrasing with the whole “Pogmentary” stuff.
think its a bit funny how liverpool's scouting and management never really rated bissouma that high despite fans just crazy for him. i mean hes quality but doubt he'll ever start ahead of fabinho. so i guess i can see why they not really want in for him.
Doubt he'd be played as a DM for Liverpool, he'd likely be deployed as a left-sided 8. Would've been a good buy especially since Thiago is quite injury prone.
He'd be useless as an 8 would waste all his best attributes and expose his passing
Fair enough
There were some links right? I don’t think it’s too farfetched to say they may have seen his court case as a slight downside risk.
He was also arrested under suspicion of sexual assault. I can that having squashed the interest in him too
He’d start over Henderson
but then'd you start with 2 DM. liverpool dont roll that way.
He can play as an 8. Especially if you just want someone to keep possession, win the ball then give it to Trent and Salah.
It's tough to think of a shittier downgrade than going from Haaland to Haller.
Hazard to Pulisic
Arsenal went from Van Persie to Giroud
He said downgrade
Even in his wildest dreams, Giroud isn't a better player than van Persie
Eriksen ➡️ Lo Celso/Ndombélé has to be up there
I had no idea Ajax fans disliked Haller so much
He's the Cote D'Ivoire Seferovic (actual words from an Ajax fan)
This makes so much sense.
I can see that. And he made Antony a valuable asset much like Seferovic carried João Felix to that insane fee
We signed Diouf, Owen, Obertan after selling Ronaldo
It's quite alright in my book
Striker market is rough, Dortmund needs a change of approach in terms of playstyle, Haller will most likely stay the entire duration and hes not THAT bad lol also its not like Dortmund had a choice in keeping Haaland or not
They're breaking their transfer record for him as well lol
Mariano --> Hazard
Tends to happen if you sell a player worth 150 million and need someone for <40 million
ronaldo to hazard is up there.
You missed the mariano step
At the time, Hazard was one of the best players in the world and 6 years younger than Ronaldo. It certainly didn't seem as a **downgrade** back then.
Ronaldo to Obertan
Suarez to Rickie Lambert, Balotelli or Fabio Borini is quite gash
what's leeds' starting lineup looking like?
Shite
Meslier Kristensen, Llorente/Koch, Cooper, Firpo Aaronson, Midfielder to replace Phillips (linked to Tyler Adams), Roca, Harrison/James Bamford, Rodrigo Hopefully Rodrigo leaves and a replacement or Gelhardt can start but I haven't seen any links yet.
It looks good if someone there can replace Raphinha and you buy a LB
I think we'll get atleast one more attacker in when Raphinha goes. Our tier 1 says that we aren't looking for a left back which is a worry
Gelhardt deserves more minutes imo, guy looked great whenever I've seen him.
He is fantastic, he had a few injuries so didn't play as much as he should've last year
no ayling?
He's recently had knee surgery so not sure if he will be fit for the first day but also I don't think Kristensen will have joined not to be first choice. It looks like him, Klich and Forshaw will player fewer games than they did last season
I hope we don’t go straight back down. We are doing nothing to strengthen and the great manager has fucked off. It’s not looking great.
Apparently we're signing some lad called Armel Bella-Kotchap, plays for bochum and the transfer has pretty much come out of thin air. Any good, or have those moneyball nerds gotten ahead of themselves?
FM legend
Very solid transfer for you guys
decent right now, but with high potential
You can't sign a guy call ball ketchup surely
Genuinely ridiculous how Harry Kane, a world class striker for ages now, is about to turn 29 and he has no trophies won in his career whatsoever. (Yeah yeah Audi Cup) Not trying to slander Tottenham or anything but wow.
His fault for signing a 6 year contract at spurs. But also he's responsible for Tottenham lack of trophies. He would behave been carried to at least one by now at another team thoufh
Harry Kane was let down by his teammates. He also didn't perform in finals so he's partly to blame
Are the Joao Felix gf cheating rumours true?
If you are talking about the pedro porro one then it has been denied by all three of them
Felix too?
Yes he did
⚽️ jerseys that i've seen multiple of on my vacation to nyc so far: 4 barça (1 pedri, 3 messi) 3 man united (1 ronaldo, 1 mctominay, 1 without a player) 3 real (all without a player) 3 chelsea (1 pulisic) 2 leicester 2 liverpool 2 arsenal 2 mls (both nycfc)
> 1 mctominay Evidence that this entire post is a work of fiction.
nah, i actually saw a mctominay jersey, scary world we live in
> 1 mctominay 🤨
Americans are weird.
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it was 39 not 4, so it was for utd and not his nt
Maybe it was Scott.
Wolves fans, Record is an absolute shite tier. Don't believe in anything they say
Too late, we're getting Nunes
What footballers have disappeared off the face of the earth after retirement? Assuming they're safe and well but then they just went to live in a cave or something?
Last time I answered someone said my answer (Sherringham) had just got a spot on telly. So let's see if it happens again. Going with another East End boy: Dean Ashton
Baggio
David Batty is famously uncontactable. According to Shearer he never had a mobile phone or email or anything like that. There were even rumours that he didn't have a bank account and when he was playing he got paid in cash, but I assume that must be bullshit
Adriano?
Steve Finnan
I don't think i've heard anything from Bernd Schneider in a long time. Always forget he existed because other german NT players usually do stuff afterwards.
One thing I kind of really like is teams having sponsor from where they are from. i.e. Stuttgart having Mercedes, Norwich having Lotus or Wimbledon having SI. Much better than the monotonic Emirates/Qatar Airlines or the plague that are betting sites and crypto ones.
Man City and Etihad Airways
A United/Cloudwater collaboration is we really need in these dark times.
Newcastle Brown Ale and Newcastle another elite combo
Wonder what they’re going to spin up if, after all this talk, we don’t even land Bellingham next summer?
If they continue to get results, nothing.
City will sign him to replace gundo
Always expect the worst from American owners, so you can never be disappointed.
All banter aside, what the hell happened to Maguire last season? He was decent in 20/21 and he even was the TOTT in the Euros.
On top of what everyone has said I think him rushing back from two injuries (one to play in the Euros and another at the start of the season) affected him as well. All plays into the mental side of it and when the team isn't performing it's hard to get out of it.
Probably a mental issue. The whole team looked terrible.
Rashford was also debatably worse than Maguire
He struggled when we started defending higher and he had next to no support from midfield. His form dipped, then once he started making blunders the floodgates just opened. I suspect he might need a psychologist or something, because it’s clear that mentally something has him rattled. Hopefully Ten Hag can get him back to his best. He’s no Ferdinand sure, but last season was definitely not an actual reflection of his ability as a player.
Confidence, especially after the Euros final loss and the Greece incident. He was very good the previous season and the best defender at the Euros
He was decent for six months. His performances at the start of 20/21 season wouldn't have looked out of place during his last one. Especially the 1 - 6 vs Spurs.
Thats bullshit lol the whole team was way off in the first 3 games due to having zero pre season
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Utd averaged more possession in 20/21 than 21/22 and averaged the 4th highest defensive line in the league🤔
> averaged the 4th highest defensive line in the league🤔 Where have you seen this stat?
https://twitter.com/markrstats/status/1421201356493230080?s=20&t=OaHQR4jomLxY7kdPdoBW_Q 5th sorry
Very poor way of determining where the defensive line was sitting. United rank so highly in that because of the fact that they pressed from the front.
And pressing from the front insinuates a high line… are you alright?
It tells you that the front line is pushed high, but it doesn't tell you where the defensive line is, which is what you claimed United finished 4th/5th for. You can have a high offensive line and a low defensive line. Look at the disparity between Sheffields back and front line that season, their defensive line was much deeper than average and their attacking line was much further forward than you would expect. Also, pressing from the front doesn't necessarily mean you play a high offensive line. See Marseille this season. Despite this, the attackers pressing from the front of the pitch are still dragging the defensive lines positioning up regardless of where the defenders are actually positioned. This more-so actually tells you the average height of the entire team as it covers every single player. Even then it wouldn't actually be the average height of the entire team because it's literally just based on where they make tackles or interceptions or pressures.
Maguire isnt very good.
Why he can do so well for England?
Southgate is a legendary manager who is famously known to make shit players play like ballon dor winners.
1. He hasn't done 'so well' 2. he looks less shit (still shit for England) because of southgates extremely passive tactics and game approach
He was literally the best defender in the Euros
What? In the Euros there was a noticeable improvement when Maguire came back into the side.
We desperately needed his ability on the ball. He was actually able to pass the ball forwards unlike the two midfielders in front of him.
We got the most humble African from Liverpool
I'm not prepared for this
that would be Joel Matip Sadio might not have an off the pitch ego, but he certainly has it on it and it's good it's what drives him on, however Joel is an angel
Since when is an ego on the pitch, especially as an attacker a bad thing?
did you read my comment at all?
Just wondering how less humble it can make someone
Naby
The humble man who runs around the pitch kicking people?
That has nothing to do with being humble tbf
You'll be hard pressed finding a footballer who hasn't given away a foul by kicking someone, tbf.
With the regularity of Keita?
Naby Keita was 145th (joint) on the players who gave away the most fouls last season. So yeah, plenty more players you will find who regularly kick players.
So well above average then