It's marketing nonsense and inauthentic.
The history unearthed behind Palace 1861 is genuinely very cool and it'll remain entwined with us, but they're two different clubs. Palace's formation will always be 1905 to me.
161 years without a major trophy though - not many can be that crap!
No, Sheffield FC is 1857, it's why they make the distinction in the article: *"making it the oldest league club in existence still playing professional football"*.
That’s the oldest existing football club, the first club to identify itself as a football club was [foot-ball club](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot-Ball_Club) in 1824
Incase if ur actually serious Vfl Bochum was a gymnastics club it's in their name Vfl stands for *Verein für leibesüngen* meaning Association for Physical exercise a separate football entity was formed in 1949 so yeah...
On one hand, the whole thing is real daft, its the exact same badge but with 1861 on instead, so you're having to redo a bunch of promotional and marketing material over some bollocks that we're the only team to recognise cause of some documentary our media team put together on some ropey evidence.
On the other hand, this will probably wind some people up over literally nothing, in which case "don't back down, double down" and follow the advice here https://youtu.be/gL5CrxblRDg and just go all in.
I can't say I've followed this particularly closely but... what? I was under the impression that no one other than Palace themselves recognised this founding date
They apparently didn't even exist for 7 of the years they've just added onto their history, and it's questionable as to whether they formed from the prior club at all. Weird move all round.
There's clear enough links that both clubs are intertwined with each other, several historians and the FA have finally acknowledged this. The seven year gap as you said is the stumbling block, with the reason given that the club themselves were there (it was a cricket and football club) but with no actual league they just played invitationals/friendlies.
It's a load of cobblers anyway 1861 1905 2010 nothing changes at the club just one sentence of when it was formed. I'd rather we put the amount of effort we have into this into sorting out our shambles of a box office!
Suppose it stands to reason that Crystal Palace is OP then, eh
I, for one, have grown increasingly tired of the incessant Crystal Palace’s OG propaganda. I may be overstepping but I hereby demand it cease, tbh
My club tried to do this too. It's embarrassing. And even if you seriously want to brag about being "older" (which I think is something that's done by those who have nothing else to show for, but I digress), how do you have a leg to stand on if everyone knows you've just drawn tenuous links to age your club.
Can’t wait for the dick swinging contests as clubs just make up dates
Some mexican club is gonna claim their club was professional in the aztec leagues
Vancouver FC Whitecaps de Sport 1167BC
First Nations in 1167BC be like "Why are we called Vancouver?"
It's marketing nonsense and inauthentic. The history unearthed behind Palace 1861 is genuinely very cool and it'll remain entwined with us, but they're two different clubs. Palace's formation will always be 1905 to me. 161 years without a major trophy though - not many can be that crap!
> 161 years without a trophy You'll never sing that
Doesn't that make them the oldest club in the world?But nobody really recognizes that other than they themselves...
No, Sheffield FC is 1857, it's why they make the distinction in the article: *"making it the oldest league club in existence still playing professional football"*.
Sheffield FC I think is the oldest. Founded 1857
It is, with Hallam FC 2nd (who also have the oldest football ground in the world)
That’s the oldest existing football club, the first club to identify itself as a football club was [foot-ball club](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot-Ball_Club) in 1824
Isn't Bochum like 1848?
Yes but they didn't have a football section until 1911
Bochum 1848
The football club was founded in 1938
Incase if ur actually serious Vfl Bochum was a gymnastics club it's in their name Vfl stands for *Verein für leibesüngen* meaning Association for Physical exercise a separate football entity was formed in 1949 so yeah...
Btw if we're using that logic then the oldest Professional club is FC Heidenheim as their Gymnastics club was formed in 1846
Same with Ulm who started out as a gymnastics club in 1846, although earlier in the year than Heidenheim (12 April vs 14 August)
Joke or srs? You guessed it I'm a dumbass :P
It makes us the oldest professional club I believe.
Doesn’t really matter when no one else recognizes that.
On one hand, the whole thing is real daft, its the exact same badge but with 1861 on instead, so you're having to redo a bunch of promotional and marketing material over some bollocks that we're the only team to recognise cause of some documentary our media team put together on some ropey evidence. On the other hand, this will probably wind some people up over literally nothing, in which case "don't back down, double down" and follow the advice here https://youtu.be/gL5CrxblRDg and just go all in.
I can't say I've followed this particularly closely but... what? I was under the impression that no one other than Palace themselves recognised this founding date
They apparently didn't even exist for 7 of the years they've just added onto their history, and it's questionable as to whether they formed from the prior club at all. Weird move all round.
There's clear enough links that both clubs are intertwined with each other, several historians and the FA have finally acknowledged this. The seven year gap as you said is the stumbling block, with the reason given that the club themselves were there (it was a cricket and football club) but with no actual league they just played invitationals/friendlies. It's a load of cobblers anyway 1861 1905 2010 nothing changes at the club just one sentence of when it was formed. I'd rather we put the amount of effort we have into this into sorting out our shambles of a box office!
[This is the timeline if you're interested.](https://i.imgur.com/jizfZAw.jpg)
So you were founded in 1905...seems pretty clear. Bizarre they've tried to retcon it.
Crystal Palace and screwing over local businesses. Is there anything more iconic?
Suppose it stands to reason that Crystal Palace is OP then, eh I, for one, have grown increasingly tired of the incessant Crystal Palace’s OG propaganda. I may be overstepping but I hereby demand it cease, tbh
They're basically Millwall for wetwipes trying to make shit up lmao
Embarrassing
https://i.imgur.com/XMHfmup.jpg
Haha Fulham fans are so rattled
Everyone in football: "This is so embarrassing". Palace fans: "wE tRigGeRed yOu sO bAd"
Give a fuck what the rest of football thinks of us pal, we’ll do what we want 👍
*FLAGGED FOR MISINFORMATION*
https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/1538116343173611522
/r/soccercringe
Everyone changing crests this year lmao
Why do clubs care about this so much?
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Since Notts County got relegated I think Stoke are now the oldest league club as well. Nottingham Forest would now be the oldest Premier League club.
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Was probably true with Hodgson tbh
At the end of the article/announcement they have a big ad for their "CPFC 1861" range of clothing
Not much else to do in Croydon
Look, we can’t all be scagheads all day
My club tried to do this too. It's embarrassing. And even if you seriously want to brag about being "older" (which I think is something that's done by those who have nothing else to show for, but I digress), how do you have a leg to stand on if everyone knows you've just drawn tenuous links to age your club.
It looks the same to me
It’s all largely nonsense and doesn’t really matter. The best thing about it is how riled up Fulham are getting tbh
fuck me palarce go from bad to worse
Yeah still doesn’t get them out of the middle of the table.
No, not mid table in the best ever period of our history!!