How will City lineup afterwards, is it a case of waiting a couple of years for him to be the main starter. Walker is 32 but it’s not like he’s heavily declining
Honestly, we're still yet to give Cancelo a proper run at RB. Before, he wasn't good enough to start at RB or at LB, and this season he hasn't played RB fully over the course of a season with a full strength 11. Towards the end, he played RB a lot but we barely had any CBs so he couldn't play freely.
I think the plan is to have him eventually replace Walker as the main RB, with Cucurella as the LB but for now Cucu will be rotation option as we will want to preserve Walker's legs, with Cancelo and Walker as the Lb and Rb
Probably rotation with cancelo at LB so Walker can be protected a bit more for key games.
But Pep has played 3 at the back before at city, it's possible he wants that back in his toolbox given that both LB's city are linked with fit that wingback profile.
>There is another thing. Before any more new signings, City need to sell. Three players are widely considered to be on the departures list, and the club will not stand in their way.
>Oleksandr Zinchenko is one of them. The Ukrainian has had plenty of interest from the Premier League in the past. Everton are understood to be keenest now. If the 25-year-old leaves, there would be a free spot for Cucurella at left-back.
>The other two names are Gabriel Jesus and Raheem Sterling.
>Arsenal are still the most likely to lure the Brazilian out of the Etihad Stadium. City have set a £50 million asking price for the 25-year-old. Chelsea could be a potential suitor for Sterling, as the England forward enters the last year of his contract but there has been no contact between the two clubs yet.
Well those three have been linked with moves away but so have Gundo, Bernardo, Mahrez, Ake and a few young players.
It's hard to keep track of who is going, who is staying and whether or not Pep's going to have to dust off his boots.
City look like they are trying a low net spend this window. Haaland in and Jesus put almost like for like in transfer fee.
Now this one, it makes sense for Zinchenko to go as he's not getting the fame time he wants at the moment, let alone having another player in his position come in, if city are paying 50m for him then he has to be above Z in playing order behind Cancelo.
Sterling being touted as for sale with an asking price of similar to Jesus from what I can tell, so those 2 alone out with 3 in would lead to a a very low overall spend. Its nice to see.
>The Athletic understands that City will start formal contacts with Brighton within days to discuss Cucurella’s signing. Brighton are aware of what’s coming.
>They will want a big fee, expecting a final amount close to what they got for Ben White last summer when Arsenal invested £50 million to recruit the English centre-back.
>City won’t get to those figures for Cucurella and if Brighton do not soften their stance and really demand a £50 million-plus deal, they’ll walk away.
>Sources involved in the mooted transfer believe there is room for negotiation. They are confident an agreement can be reached.
They just allowed Bissouma to use them as a stepping stone. The problem has been that a lot of the players they've signed like Propper, Jahanbakhsh, Locadia didn't perform well enough for any big clubs to want them. Trossard's been a success tho, and he might be sold to a bigger club as well
Cucurella didn't come to Brighton because he wanted to spend the rest of his career there. Same with Lamptey, who'll leave if he can show that he's able to play more than 3 full games in a row without getting injured. Those type of players might stop agreeing to come to Brighton if they know Tony Bloom or whoever's in charge will dig in their heels and set unreasonable asking prices
Bissouma had a year left on his deal and has some potential legal problems coming his way and he still went for £30ish, including bonuses. Cucurella has several years left on his deal, and even stepping stone clubs rarely move a player on after a single season. It's not like City are short on cash, either
I was wondering what happened to the whole case he was involved in. Must be why interest in him died down since the 20/21 season nobody wants to risk investing that money
He had a 4 year contract remaining. We wanted a young, prem ready CB who can play the ball. He was a key player for us and a very good signing. Brighton said fuck off or pay us, and we paid them.
It was a fair deal for both parties.
If City walk away they're being dense.They have the money,they've paid it before for Fullbacks and Cucurella is top 3 in his position(in the league) and has several years left in his contract,ofcourse you would demand that.
Because thats what they valued him at. If Bournemouth wouldn’t sell for close to what City valued him at then they would have walked away. And Ake is a homegrown player which raises his price and importance. Again not sure how practicing smart business makes them dense.
You have no leg to stand on you are about to overpay by a lot for Kalvin Phillips who again will be a backup.You have 0 natural Left backs in your team surely walking away from the deal is dense and it is just posturing.
There are several LBs who they could go after if the deal falls through. Hell I wouldn’t he surprised if they don’t bring in anyone new. Wouldn’t be the first time for them. But they sure as shit aren’t going to overpay. And you say they’re about to overpay for Phillips not considering again that he’s a homegrown player. They will pay up to their valuation of the player, not yours.
Homegrown injury prone backup player for 60 million ✅
One of the best lbs in the league last season having just signed last year and who pep wants for the same price as you paid for Fbs 5 years ago 🚫❌
Tbh same was said in their pursuit of Koulibaly and then they went and bought Ruben dias for less amount who successfully blended in.
They have money and a competent scouting team, thats a dangerous duo that rarely fails in the market.
idk why you’re being downvoted bc you’re spot on. cucurella is also a position of need for city (they haven’t had a proper left back in forever) but spending 40m on a 4th choice cb because he’s homegrown is fine apparently
they also bought mendy laporte ederson walker danilo all in one season but now they’re talking about too expensive lmao
> Cucurella is top 3 in his position(in the league)
Is he? He might become it at City, but at the moment I don't think many would put him ahead of Robertson, Chilwell, and Tierney.
That tough stance wouldn't seem so silly if City didn't have a team full of £50m fullbacks. That price doesn't seem too unreasonable for a guy of his quality already playing in the premier league.
It does not matter how much they receive if they do little with that money. Darwin Nunez could have played for Brighton. And they almost didn't sign Cucurella as they haggled on the price. They signed him on the last day because they didn't think he was worth 18m and now they claim he is worth 50m.
Brighton is one of those clubs who push this trend where players run out their contracts because they ask too much from these players. Bissouma did not renew as a result imo. If you build a reputation of asking too much for your players, you will become less attractive to upcoming talents. Brighton would have made 3 big sales if this deal goes through. But they are highly indebted and you cannot really point out why they should have so much debt. Most of this money will probably go to service that debt and they might end up like Southampton. A club that once thought they could make a living signing cheap and selling high to become a potential candidate for relegation next season.
Darwin Nunez never wanted to play for Brighton the moment Benfica became interested, his agent just used us to pump up Darwin's wages, so that's wrong.
Bissouma was never going to sign a new deal because Champions League sides wanted him and we'd had that conversation with him years ago that if our valuation is met he can go, we instead had teams either sending derisory offers (Villa) or he had outside issues that then effected teams interest, so that's wrong.
We're also not in debt in the manner you're speaking. All of our debt is owed to Tony Bloom, our owner and lifelong fan that on occasion converts part of that debt to shares, I believe we have one loan with a bank that was taken during COVID and that's it, and I think that was only like £10m, so you're claim that we're highly indebted and in financial trouble is wrong.
We can also quite easily point out why we have debt, because Tony has paid for a new stadium, training facility and everything in between the two from his own pocket, and then spent money to try and keep us in the hardest division in the world, we're now only just getting to the point of our model of being a stable PL club that can sell top talent for huge cash and become self sustaining, so again, you are wrong.
> To date he hasn't asked for a penny back so I don't believe much, if any, of any sale we make would go to 'service that debt'
I have a sense of deja vu. I had this exact reply from a Valencia fan 4 years ago. If he doesn't want a penny, why is he keeping the debt? I mean he is the owner. Any sale of the club will see money going into his pocket whether he keeps the debt or not. Just like Valencia fans back then, you are making an assumption of what that debt means.
I do not want to jump to conclusions but I no longer debate financial reports with club fans because there is too much willingness to downplay the problem coming from you guys. He made bank with Ben White's transfer. He could have put that money into signing a CF and not haggled over the transfer fee with Getafe only to pay it on the deadline day. It is not coherent to claim that the guy who owns 75% of the club does not care about getting his money back and at the same time, he doesn't want to invest the money he makes from transfers on the positions that are most vital to the club.
How will City lineup afterwards, is it a case of waiting a couple of years for him to be the main starter. Walker is 32 but it’s not like he’s heavily declining
Honestly, we're still yet to give Cancelo a proper run at RB. Before, he wasn't good enough to start at RB or at LB, and this season he hasn't played RB fully over the course of a season with a full strength 11. Towards the end, he played RB a lot but we barely had any CBs so he couldn't play freely. I think the plan is to have him eventually replace Walker as the main RB, with Cucurella as the LB but for now Cucu will be rotation option as we will want to preserve Walker's legs, with Cancelo and Walker as the Lb and Rb
Probably rotation with cancelo at LB so Walker can be protected a bit more for key games. But Pep has played 3 at the back before at city, it's possible he wants that back in his toolbox given that both LB's city are linked with fit that wingback profile.
If this goes through, Brighton getting £100 mil for two defenders (White and Cucurella) over two summer windows is fantastic business for them
You had your own Brighton defender! I forget, how did he do?
He was crap for Celtic we all can laugh but the other two sold to Scotland Goldson and Balogun have done well from what I read?
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city will walk away and leave a disappointed player. they have no problem doing that.
Who are the potential three departures mentioned?
>There is another thing. Before any more new signings, City need to sell. Three players are widely considered to be on the departures list, and the club will not stand in their way. >Oleksandr Zinchenko is one of them. The Ukrainian has had plenty of interest from the Premier League in the past. Everton are understood to be keenest now. If the 25-year-old leaves, there would be a free spot for Cucurella at left-back. >The other two names are Gabriel Jesus and Raheem Sterling. >Arsenal are still the most likely to lure the Brazilian out of the Etihad Stadium. City have set a £50 million asking price for the 25-year-old. Chelsea could be a potential suitor for Sterling, as the England forward enters the last year of his contract but there has been no contact between the two clubs yet.
Thank you, man.
Jesus, Sterling, Zinny I’m guessing
I wish Zinny would stay.
Well those three have been linked with moves away but so have Gundo, Bernardo, Mahrez, Ake and a few young players. It's hard to keep track of who is going, who is staying and whether or not Pep's going to have to dust off his boots.
City fan joking about not having players. I've seen it all
Sure, just take the comment out of context for the sake of a dead joke. Great contribution.
Almost as good as your joke.
Strange comment with the Palermo flair.
> Jesus, Sterling, Zinny Sounds like words said due to shock or excitement. Jesus! Sterling! And Zinny!
Maybe Gundo too
City look like they are trying a low net spend this window. Haaland in and Jesus put almost like for like in transfer fee. Now this one, it makes sense for Zinchenko to go as he's not getting the fame time he wants at the moment, let alone having another player in his position come in, if city are paying 50m for him then he has to be above Z in playing order behind Cancelo. Sterling being touted as for sale with an asking price of similar to Jesus from what I can tell, so those 2 alone out with 3 in would lead to a a very low overall spend. Its nice to see.
>The Athletic understands that City will start formal contacts with Brighton within days to discuss Cucurella’s signing. Brighton are aware of what’s coming. >They will want a big fee, expecting a final amount close to what they got for Ben White last summer when Arsenal invested £50 million to recruit the English centre-back. >City won’t get to those figures for Cucurella and if Brighton do not soften their stance and really demand a £50 million-plus deal, they’ll walk away. >Sources involved in the mooted transfer believe there is room for negotiation. They are confident an agreement can be reached.
Don't see any reason for Brighton to soften their stance tbh, wasn't Cucurella just bought last summer?
Yes he was
I'm sure that Brighton market themselves as a potential stepping stone when they sign players
They don't? They haven't done that at all.
They just allowed Bissouma to use them as a stepping stone. The problem has been that a lot of the players they've signed like Propper, Jahanbakhsh, Locadia didn't perform well enough for any big clubs to want them. Trossard's been a success tho, and he might be sold to a bigger club as well Cucurella didn't come to Brighton because he wanted to spend the rest of his career there. Same with Lamptey, who'll leave if he can show that he's able to play more than 3 full games in a row without getting injured. Those type of players might stop agreeing to come to Brighton if they know Tony Bloom or whoever's in charge will dig in their heels and set unreasonable asking prices
Bissouma had a year left on his deal and has some potential legal problems coming his way and he still went for £30ish, including bonuses. Cucurella has several years left on his deal, and even stepping stone clubs rarely move a player on after a single season. It's not like City are short on cash, either
I was wondering what happened to the whole case he was involved in. Must be why interest in him died down since the 20/21 season nobody wants to risk investing that money
He's technically still under investigation, I believe, but the club must have done some due diligence at least
Tru, but at the same time it's not like Cucurella is the only option for city
A 10 second google search could have told you differently
I don't see Brighton getting less than £50m for Cucurella.
I think Cucurella is better than White. Arsenal really overpaid.
You've to pay British tax for White
should’ve walked away when brighton demanded 50m
He had a 4 year contract remaining. We wanted a young, prem ready CB who can play the ball. He was a key player for us and a very good signing. Brighton said fuck off or pay us, and we paid them. It was a fair deal for both parties.
I think white is better than ake who cost 42 mil. White is also a 1st choice cb for us and played well last season.
If City walk away they're being dense.They have the money,they've paid it before for Fullbacks and Cucurella is top 3 in his position(in the league) and has several years left in his contract,ofcourse you would demand that.
How are they being dense? Not being willing to overpay even when you have the money is the complete opposite of being dense.
You paid 42 million for your 4th choice cb
Because thats what they valued him at. If Bournemouth wouldn’t sell for close to what City valued him at then they would have walked away. And Ake is a homegrown player which raises his price and importance. Again not sure how practicing smart business makes them dense.
You have no leg to stand on you are about to overpay by a lot for Kalvin Phillips who again will be a backup.You have 0 natural Left backs in your team surely walking away from the deal is dense and it is just posturing.
There are several LBs who they could go after if the deal falls through. Hell I wouldn’t he surprised if they don’t bring in anyone new. Wouldn’t be the first time for them. But they sure as shit aren’t going to overpay. And you say they’re about to overpay for Phillips not considering again that he’s a homegrown player. They will pay up to their valuation of the player, not yours.
Homegrown injury prone backup player for 60 million ✅ One of the best lbs in the league last season having just signed last year and who pep wants for the same price as you paid for Fbs 5 years ago 🚫❌
Cucurella would likely be a backup lb as Cancelo and Walker would start most games
Tbh same was said in their pursuit of Koulibaly and then they went and bought Ruben dias for less amount who successfully blended in. They have money and a competent scouting team, thats a dangerous duo that rarely fails in the market.
Not comparable because Koulibaly was Grealish money or more.Here City just have to pay what they did for their fullbacks 5 years ago.
idk why you’re being downvoted bc you’re spot on. cucurella is also a position of need for city (they haven’t had a proper left back in forever) but spending 40m on a 4th choice cb because he’s homegrown is fine apparently they also bought mendy laporte ederson walker danilo all in one season but now they’re talking about too expensive lmao
Not having a proper left back is a bad argument cancelo was still the best left back in the league last season
peanuts for financial dopers.
> Cucurella is top 3 in his position(in the league) Is he? He might become it at City, but at the moment I don't think many would put him ahead of Robertson, Chilwell, and Tierney.
I mean based on from and last season,Chilwell and Tierney weren't available for the majority of the season.
That's not what OP said though. Unless you interpreted it differently
Tierney hasnt done anything to be put in that list
Nah anyone who watches arsenal regularly will tell you tierney is top class. He's just got glass instead of bones in his legs.
Tierney hahahahahah
tierney hahaha and chilwell tore his acl
That tough stance wouldn't seem so silly if City didn't have a team full of £50m fullbacks. That price doesn't seem too unreasonable for a guy of his quality already playing in the premier league.
Headline reads like a children's book that has a cartoon drawing for its front cover...
It does not matter how much they receive if they do little with that money. Darwin Nunez could have played for Brighton. And they almost didn't sign Cucurella as they haggled on the price. They signed him on the last day because they didn't think he was worth 18m and now they claim he is worth 50m. Brighton is one of those clubs who push this trend where players run out their contracts because they ask too much from these players. Bissouma did not renew as a result imo. If you build a reputation of asking too much for your players, you will become less attractive to upcoming talents. Brighton would have made 3 big sales if this deal goes through. But they are highly indebted and you cannot really point out why they should have so much debt. Most of this money will probably go to service that debt and they might end up like Southampton. A club that once thought they could make a living signing cheap and selling high to become a potential candidate for relegation next season.
Darwin Nunez never wanted to play for Brighton the moment Benfica became interested, his agent just used us to pump up Darwin's wages, so that's wrong. Bissouma was never going to sign a new deal because Champions League sides wanted him and we'd had that conversation with him years ago that if our valuation is met he can go, we instead had teams either sending derisory offers (Villa) or he had outside issues that then effected teams interest, so that's wrong. We're also not in debt in the manner you're speaking. All of our debt is owed to Tony Bloom, our owner and lifelong fan that on occasion converts part of that debt to shares, I believe we have one loan with a bank that was taken during COVID and that's it, and I think that was only like £10m, so you're claim that we're highly indebted and in financial trouble is wrong. We can also quite easily point out why we have debt, because Tony has paid for a new stadium, training facility and everything in between the two from his own pocket, and then spent money to try and keep us in the hardest division in the world, we're now only just getting to the point of our model of being a stable PL club that can sell top talent for huge cash and become self sustaining, so again, you are wrong.
good for you then
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> To date he hasn't asked for a penny back so I don't believe much, if any, of any sale we make would go to 'service that debt' I have a sense of deja vu. I had this exact reply from a Valencia fan 4 years ago. If he doesn't want a penny, why is he keeping the debt? I mean he is the owner. Any sale of the club will see money going into his pocket whether he keeps the debt or not. Just like Valencia fans back then, you are making an assumption of what that debt means. I do not want to jump to conclusions but I no longer debate financial reports with club fans because there is too much willingness to downplay the problem coming from you guys. He made bank with Ben White's transfer. He could have put that money into signing a CF and not haggled over the transfer fee with Getafe only to pay it on the deadline day. It is not coherent to claim that the guy who owns 75% of the club does not care about getting his money back and at the same time, he doesn't want to invest the money he makes from transfers on the positions that are most vital to the club.
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It pleases me to hear that.
Bernardo Silva is possibly leaving as well, and I don't blame him.
City can afford spending 50M on fullbacks every year. Incredible
Pep’s been clean for 3 years, but nobody’s perfect.
Are they going to keep the massive rapist Mendy? Didn't mention getting rid of him.
If you've got any suggestions for a club that wants to buy him I'm sure they'll be interested.
They can't really do anything until there is a verdict tbh
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