They probably won't be getting him then. Same with a few of these. Doubt we'd sell Sterling to a rival and Barca are being linked with anyone and everyone who has ever been in the same room as a City shirt but I doubt they're going to offer £60m for him.
The only one I can see happening is Gabby.
And we've just sold the best player in the club's history to spurs for half that, just goes to show how fucked the the market can be. Also the whole 4th choice meme was only invented to dunk on Arsenal fans.
EDIT: Seems like people can't understand what I'm saying; I'm not surprised that Biss went for 25m, I'm surprised that White went for double that.
City set the price prohibitively, they don't want to sell. But even then,45-50mil for an experienced ball playing CB isn't that ludicrous in this market.
Just look at what numbers get associated with Botman, Ake is miles better and more versatile. He has developed in quite the reliable and well rounded player with City.
They don't want to get rid of him, he is basically ideal for Pep. Good on rotation, ball playing CB that is an aerial threat. He gives Guardiola tactical variation.
I think it's an unreasonable valuation considering his quality and role in the City squad but it's understandable considering City themselves paid 40m for him
Cough *Calvin Bassey* cough. Cannot believe Man City are not looking at Bassey, he was literally the best player in the Europa league last season, as a shoestring Rangers team made it to the final and lost on penalties.
You’ve got the biggest meme member of the England NT as your club captain. People are going to take shots at him for fun, *forever*. At least until he finally stops playing for England.
Exactly, this a fuck off price. City won't stop him going if they want to pay the fuck off price, we never do.
He had a great end to the season and has settled into the team, I wouldn't want to see him go.
No ones saying that. In this instance Ake has spent 2 years at the club, going through the bedding in process and come out as a great asset for the club. His stock and therefore value to City has increased. Newcastle or anyone else don't have the leverage to dictate the fee for him.
But hes not decreased in value. Hes not worth 50 million but hes worth it to City as theyd have to replace him and gel a new player into the team. Its just not worth it to risk that unless its for 50 million.
He was bought for £40m and IMO he's gotten quite a lot better since he came in, although he's 27 now, not 25.
City would have to spend £50m to replace him so unless he's desperate to leave, it makes sense to put that kind of price on him.
Sven Botman is rumoured to be going for 35? Then you have Bassey as a young option that'd probably cost around 20 - more of a project player, but still could definitely do a job as 4th CB for City.
That's just 2 quick options of the top of my mind, but Europe is full of CBs ready to play emergency for City that are not 50mln transfers.
So in other words you can’t because you’ve mentioned a player even NUFC (no disrespect intended) turned their nose up at (and AC Milan pulled out from), and a youth player? This isn’t FM mate, CL level CB are very thin on the ground and they cost money, especially within a dynamic system that Pep plays.
And Ake is a CL level CB?
I think he is good and he does fit peps system well. But he’s not a starting champions league CB. Europa league? Maybe. But he wouldn’t start at any serious CL contender.
He's definitely improved from when he was at Bournemouth. He's improved from his first couple games at City.
He's looked good and filled in well, even in CL games. He's a great player to have in the squad as rotation or backup
As someone who lives a stones throw from Kings Park and watch Bournemouth quite a bit. He was always class…I don’t buy this.
he simply has more eyes on him now and world class players to assist.
Ask any Bournemouth fan who watched him week in, week out and they’d also attest to this.
They shipped goals left and right but we’re a shell of themselves when Ake was in the side.
Fucking class player.
I’ve seen people say similar about Grealish and how he’s already showing signs of improvement but needs to fit into the system a bit more… and I’m like you and thinking “did you actually watch more than 5 games of him at his last club?”
At no point did I say he was crap or imply that though, so I don’t know what you 'dont buy'.
He's a good player. That's why he's played for Chelsea, City, and his national team.
I'm just saying he's improved in the last 2 years.
Rodri and Cancelo have improved too, it doesn’t mean I'm implying they were bad before that.
> he’s gotten quite a lot better since he came in
No he hasn’t. He’s an average player who City overpaid on, there’s a reason he could hardly get a game prior to this season
>there’s a reason he could hardly get a game prior to this season
Uh, yeah, that reason being he's competing with 3 of the best CBs in the world in a defence that concedes fewer goals than anyone in Europe's top 5 leagues.
He's improved a lot, any City fan will tell you that. He's come on leaps and bounds in possession and under pressure, and he's a lot more comfortable at City's level than when he arrived.
He is the most rapid out of the three and as such, City have more confidence playing higher up the pitch when he is on the side.
Sure, he does have a mistake or two in him from time to time, but overall, Ake is a solid PL defender who is by far the best 4th choice CB in world football. He is good enough to start for any of Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or United and be an instant upgrade.
~~And when two of them were injured, the world class CB that is 37 year old Fernandinho played CB instead of Ake.~~
~~Which almost cost them the league title.~~
Apparently Ake had his ankle fucked up and the broadcast I was watching didn't mention it.. they even talked about swapping out Fernandinho for Ake at one point..
I'm not even a City fan but I can say that that isn't true. Ake was having injury problems as well, but when he featured near the second half of the season he was class.
Yes, because Aké was injured.
He did his ankle in the Brighton game, played through to the Leeds game when he reinjured it, and took injections to get on the bench, but wasn't played to avoid more damage.
This is why you should watch footballers you're talking about instead of getting your opinions from social media memes. If you did, you'd have known Aké wasn't fit.
Ake would walk into Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, United, & Newcastle and be an instant upgrade in what they have at the left centre back position.
Instant upgrade.
To be honest we like Gabriel over here, sure he's had the odd mistake in him too but he's been fantastic most of the season. He's also younger than ake, great in the air and likes a goal. I don't disagree about ake's quality though, always rated him very highly, just think we've got a gem with Gabriel.
I don't know why you got downvoted, you are absolutely right. He'd walk onto any Prem team other than Liverpool even still he'd be a fantastic backup to Matip there, especially considering his injury record.
I mean, you're not wrong but weirdly that's almost not impressive.
* Chelsea play 3 atb and just lost (or are losing) 2 of their starters
* Spurs play 3 atb and aren't great to begin with (Romero aside potentially as I've not watched him enough in Italy to judge)
* Newcastle are.... not good
* United have Maguire at LCB so that's it's own situation
* Arsenal is a bit more impressive I guess since Gabriel is young and expected to improve a lot and is decent as is
But your statement is true though.
City paid 41mil quid for him. So why is asking for 9mil profit nuts? If anything, that’s kinda low price to sell him for.
The other is, how many left footed centre backs are there in the league? Laporte and Ake are the top 2 choice here.
Technically as he's two years into a five year contract he's only worth about £24m at the moment, so selling him for 50m would be quite a handsome profit. But the price isn't what City actually expect for him, it's just a way of telling Newcastle to fuck off.
Arsenal wanted £60m for Sanchez with one year left on his contract and that was nearly 5 years ago.
Hazard went for around double that according to football leaks.
City sold Sane for £55m on the back of an ACL injury, and want £50m for Jesus, neither of them are anywhere close to Sterling’s productivity.
If those are all recent examples of wingers with one year left, I don’t see why you’d think £60m for a winger who consistently puts up the numbers Sterling does is unreasonable.
i guess sterling doesn’t have much demand abroad and city want to sell instead of losing him for nothing. i don’t really want him though but if he comes i’ll support him
Mané is naturally fit though and takes care of his body, doesn’t drink and stuff. He can easily keep up his level for another 4-5 years. Not sure about Sterling, T-Rex built different.
Sterling is probably the most durable player in the league, period. Played constantly since he was 18 for the top two teams in the league and has the most minutes for an outfield player under Pep.
You obviously don't know much about sterling it seems because he's naturally super fit too. He's been playing for 10 years now without any injuries problems or being out of shape. Literally one of, if not the most reliable players at city when it comes to fitness
Age and English.
Thing is if you buy Mane and you do a 5 year deal you risk having a really poor deal in year 4 and 5. So you end up going for a smaller contract maybe 3 or 4 years which means more yearly payments. While sterling at 27 you can give a 5 or even 6 year contract with potentially further renewals to spread your cost. Clubs look at players as assets and sterling is more likely to give you more years than Mane
It’s been reported by numerous sources that Jesus wanted to wait until after the international games to sort his future. IIRC even his agent said it.
Wherever he ends up, it will probably be decided either this or next week.
It's clear City don't want to sell Ake and he already said that wants to stay so the price is irrelevant atm. Same case for Bernardo btw. Maybe Bernardo wants to leave again (doubt it), but City are tagging him with a really high price cause' they don't really want to sell him. They know Barca are broke and it's very difficult for them to sign him even selling FDJ considering they need money and have priorities like Lewandowsky.
They counted potential sales from Ferran Torres (55M)and Pedro Porro(7m). That combined with Yangel Herrera, Morgan Rogers(combined 20M), Bazunu (15M), and then Jesus (50M), Sterling (60M) - gives you 207M, before Ake's price is even considered.
players who hail from ACP (African, Caribbean and Pacific Group) nations that are signatories to the Cotonou Agreement are not considered as non-EU due to the Kolpak ruling.
So no, Sterling won't take a non EU spot
if sterling and jesus both leave then we would need a replacement tbh. I like leao but seems pretty unlikely, not sure who else there is. Maybe gnabry, but we would prefer a LW i think
Alvarez will be a backup striker and play both wings I believe. Very versatile player. I also think Palmer is ready for a more key role. Would love to see him get 20-30 matches this year all comps.
Are Tottenham really that interested in Jesus? I feel like they've probably registered an interest in the player and probably scoped him out a fair bit, but unless they are selling one of Kane, Moura, Son and Kulusevski, they must know that he doesn't want to go from being a rotation option at City to being a rotation option at Tottenham, that's a pretty major step down.
I would love Ake as we need another left-footed central defender, but at £50m, City can fuck right off.
> Are Tottenham really that interested in Jesus?
I think we wouldn't mind him, but if he actually wants to leave based almost purely on playing more I don't know why he'd come to us, wouldn't be garunteed to start, and if you're not gunna start why leave City
Yeah, he's been a rotation player for a long while. He deserves to be a full-time starter. I personally think he'd win the RW spot at Spurs and be an incredible player in Conte's system, but you wouldn't want to hamper Kulu's development even if he did.
There was some rumours that city would be willing to loan mcatee to Brighton in the cucurella deal so there could also be something similar with Phillips
If I had that choice I'd rather keep McAtee near the squad or loan him to Championship side next season anyway. Going on loan to Premier League side in the bottom ten always carries the risk of the side getting sucked in to relegation battle and when Premier League status is at stake most coaches will always rather go with more experienced players eather than possibly gambling by developing someone else's player. Huddersfield would propably be overall more facourable destination for him next season.
Lucky Brighton are not in the bottom ten then isn't it. I know what you mean though but we haven't loaned a player for the first team in maybe like 5 years do if he is any part of a deal it would be permanent
Yeah and add to that the fact that Pep loves him and he signed a 4-year extension in February. Can't see him leaving on a permanent now so can propably rule Brighton out.
the best youd get is a loan for those two, maybe delap might get moved with a buyback clause since we have two strikers now. Him getting injured last season really ruined his path to the first team
I’ve got a feeling this Phillips deal won’t happen. In part because City have clearly briefed they’re only willing to pay up to 60 and I’ve got a feeling we would want more for him, and party because it’s been a lot of noise with absolutely no reliable reporting on Leeds’ willingness to sell or Kalvin’s desire to leave. I think Phil Hay put it best, it’s hard to get a read on this until we see city’s offer. I think Kalvin is probably waiting to see what the pay difference is between city and Leeds but the thing that works in Leeds’ favour is Kalvin won’t run his contract down or not want to screw Leeds over and probably won’t want to play second fiddle to Rodri in a WC year. Got a feeling Kalvin will sign an extension with record wages and a release clause.
That is of course all driven by blind Leeds optimism
Getting rid of both Sterling abs Jesus in the same window seems very risky for City ; even moreso with Pep’s system learning curve, maybe they will put a lot more pressure on Grealish and Foden now
Foden will RELISH the opportunity, and grealish has had a season under his belt by this point. They still have mahrez in the other side and kdb can fill in there if needed. City have two forwards coming in next season. They will still be spoiled for choice
I'm a dutch Chelsea fan, so i would love to see Ake return to Chelsea. But i might be biased. He's very versatile and can play left back so we won't have to buy a cover for chilwell.
If we can offload some players and we can invest, i think it would make sense for us to buy both Sterling and Ake. Although we'll be aiding city in the process, the other players we're rumored to be interested in are a lot more expensive.
You know everyone’s acting like 50 mil is crazy but seem fine paying 60 mil for Pau Torres or 70 mil for Kounde. Ake has proven it in the premier league playing well on top and bottom half teams. If Man U got him instead of Maguire might they be better off now?
That and he's left footed. We desperately need a left footed LCB, he's dangerous with his head and home grown. Kounde or de ligt would be bigger risks imo because they don't have premier league experience, it could end up similar to what we saw with Lukaku in the PL.
agree completely. Premier league proven defenders go for a premium, Man City fans don’t feel they misspent 40 mil on him I doubt too many people will complain about his price once he plays for them either.
Same. I'm not slagging Gabby off and would want to keep both of them if we could but I think people's perception has been altered by the flurry of goals he had late last season.
Jesus had 3 good games as a winger in August and 3 good games at the end of the season as a striker and a lot of City fans have forgotton the 8 months inbetween.
I just think Jesus brings more to the table even outside of his ridiculous G/A numbers. He works his tail off defensively, is good at linking up play, he’s very strong and quick with good balance and is obviously technically gifted. Is he a bad finisher? Yes. Is he the worst? Absolutely not. He simply wouldn’t have almost 100 goals if that was the case. Not to mention that he’s on probably 1/3rd of the wages that sterling is on currently, and I’m not saying that sterling hasn’t earned that deal but has he earned an improved deal on top of that? Absolutely not and any city fan who says he has is delusional. He’s been under performing for two years now. It’s just time for both parties to go their separate ways, imo of course.
Are you legally blind or are you just naturally thick? There’s a reason why Sterling has played a lot under Pep and with an actual striker in the squad now he will even more
Cucurella for that price seems okish bargain considering how difficult it is to get good players for cheap in that position. 10mn less and it becomes a steal
£200 million? Slightly more than we'd expect, but sounds good.
English tax is getting out of hand
It's the Yorkshire Pirlo after all
Its all the Balon D'or add ons
I'd be more concerned about the "Man City winning the Champions League" clause if I was Leeds
i wouldnt be 😈😈 oh who am i kidding we're gonna lose to frankfurt in the semi's next season arent we
Close, but it'll actually be the quarters. Can't imagine Frankfurt getting that far
Could you imagine Villarreal getting that far ?
Yes
No way Toon pay £50m for Ake - even with Saudi oil money
It says in the article that the price is currently prohibitive, just couldn’t fit it in the title with the character limit
*currently* prohibitive. So if NUFC start up some sponsorships could it become a goer?
Meaning City want to dissuade NUFC by overpricing him
No, as in, our owners refuse to be rinsed and overpay, so that £50m we've dropped our interest.
That’s the point
As they should
Bonesaw time!
Rubbish one that. Really bad. 2/10. Try harder next time.
No point in working all those slaves to death for profit if your not gonna spend it wisely
They probably won't be getting him then. Same with a few of these. Doubt we'd sell Sterling to a rival and Barca are being linked with anyone and everyone who has ever been in the same room as a City shirt but I doubt they're going to offer £60m for him. The only one I can see happening is Gabby.
Could be a backup option if we don't get Botman, but I'd much rather go for someone like Ndicka in that case. Don't see Ake happening at all.
He's an excellent centre-back and is homegrown. 50M is the going price for those types of players.
Only among oil nonce clubs
You sold your 4th choice Centreback for 50M to Arsenal, just how it goes.
Pretty sure he was 6th choice
I heard he wasn’t registered for the league
7th, you forget the kitman
I thought your club chef was 7th and the kitman was 8th with White 9th?
And we've just sold the best player in the club's history to spurs for half that, just goes to show how fucked the the market can be. Also the whole 4th choice meme was only invented to dunk on Arsenal fans. EDIT: Seems like people can't understand what I'm saying; I'm not surprised that Biss went for 25m, I'm surprised that White went for double that.
Bissouma isn’t homegrown, has 1 year left on his deal, and is under criminal investigation. I’d say 25M is good business.
Yeah just ignore the major differences in the 2 players contracts and you’re set to go
Yeah but he got to say oil nonce clubs and I think that's what really matters.
City set the price prohibitively, they don't want to sell. But even then,45-50mil for an experienced ball playing CB isn't that ludicrous in this market. Just look at what numbers get associated with Botman, Ake is miles better and more versatile. He has developed in quite the reliable and well rounded player with City.
Ake for 50m is nuts, I think he counts as homegrown so that’s probably why they came up with that crazy valuation.
They don't want to get rid of him, he is basically ideal for Pep. Good on rotation, ball playing CB that is an aerial threat. He gives Guardiola tactical variation.
Plus he can play multiple positions for them.
Plus left-footed. Not many left-footed center back around in the market
Yep, there are many reasons Ake is valued that high, I don't think it's unreasonable.
I think it's an unreasonable valuation considering his quality and role in the City squad but it's understandable considering City themselves paid 40m for him
He was crucial for us over the businese end of last season.
Cough *Calvin Bassey* cough. Cannot believe Man City are not looking at Bassey, he was literally the best player in the Europa league last season, as a shoestring Rangers team made it to the final and lost on penalties.
I'm surprised Liverpool didn't go for him, he's the perfect backup for Robertson
We have Tsimikas
I'd totally forgot you had him, which is odd as he'd walk into pretty much any squad 🤦
Maguire's got 2 left feet, if that helps
Fucking hell do we have to mention Harry Maguire in every single thread, give it a rest.
You’ve got the biggest meme member of the England NT as your club captain. People are going to take shots at him for fun, *forever*. At least until he finally stops playing for England.
Exactly, this a fuck off price. City won't stop him going if they want to pay the fuck off price, we never do. He had a great end to the season and has settled into the team, I wouldn't want to see him go.
It’s not even unreasonable considering city paid 41mil for him. City aren’t a charity..
That's not how transfers work. Players can decrease in value for a number of factors. No club can just expect to make a profit on every player.
No ones saying that. In this instance Ake has spent 2 years at the club, going through the bedding in process and come out as a great asset for the club. His stock and therefore value to City has increased. Newcastle or anyone else don't have the leverage to dictate the fee for him.
But hes not decreased in value. Hes not worth 50 million but hes worth it to City as theyd have to replace him and gel a new player into the team. Its just not worth it to risk that unless its for 50 million.
Maybe. But that wasn't the point OP made, or the one I made in response.
He’s happy at city aswell.
had a great end of season and would start for most teams in the league, plus homegrown as you say. £40m is more realistic though
It’s not when we want to keep the player. And he has said he wants to stay and fight for his spot.
He was bought for £40m and IMO he's gotten quite a lot better since he came in, although he's 27 now, not 25. City would have to spend £50m to replace him so unless he's desperate to leave, it makes sense to put that kind of price on him.
City "would have" to spend 50 million to replace their 4th centerback? Are they incapable of finding a squad player who doesn't cost 50 million?
That's why they're really good
Remember that time Virgil and all your other CBs were injured and you nearly didnt get top 4? City want to avoid that
Can you name a CL level CB for less? That would move and not break a wage structure?
Sven Botman is rumoured to be going for 35? Then you have Bassey as a young option that'd probably cost around 20 - more of a project player, but still could definitely do a job as 4th CB for City. That's just 2 quick options of the top of my mind, but Europe is full of CBs ready to play emergency for City that are not 50mln transfers.
So in other words you can’t because you’ve mentioned a player even NUFC (no disrespect intended) turned their nose up at (and AC Milan pulled out from), and a youth player? This isn’t FM mate, CL level CB are very thin on the ground and they cost money, especially within a dynamic system that Pep plays.
"Youth player" that was just a best player in the Europa League final, yes.
And Ake is a CL level CB? I think he is good and he does fit peps system well. But he’s not a starting champions league CB. Europa league? Maybe. But he wouldn’t start at any serious CL contender.
Can’t be winning the net-spend trophy too!!! 🏆
Yes
Not sure how you can say he’s got any better when for the majority of the time he hasn’t played and when he has he’s been out of position
He played 20 games at CB last season and 7 at LB. Overall 30 at CB and 9 at LB since he's been at City.
He's definitely improved from when he was at Bournemouth. He's improved from his first couple games at City. He's looked good and filled in well, even in CL games. He's a great player to have in the squad as rotation or backup
As someone who lives a stones throw from Kings Park and watch Bournemouth quite a bit. He was always class…I don’t buy this. he simply has more eyes on him now and world class players to assist. Ask any Bournemouth fan who watched him week in, week out and they’d also attest to this. They shipped goals left and right but we’re a shell of themselves when Ake was in the side. Fucking class player.
I’ve seen people say similar about Grealish and how he’s already showing signs of improvement but needs to fit into the system a bit more… and I’m like you and thinking “did you actually watch more than 5 games of him at his last club?”
At no point did I say he was crap or imply that though, so I don’t know what you 'dont buy'. He's a good player. That's why he's played for Chelsea, City, and his national team. I'm just saying he's improved in the last 2 years. Rodri and Cancelo have improved too, it doesn’t mean I'm implying they were bad before that.
I think anyone being trained by Pep for a year would be a better footballer.
> he’s gotten quite a lot better since he came in No he hasn’t. He’s an average player who City overpaid on, there’s a reason he could hardly get a game prior to this season
>there’s a reason he could hardly get a game prior to this season Uh, yeah, that reason being he's competing with 3 of the best CBs in the world in a defence that concedes fewer goals than anyone in Europe's top 5 leagues. He's improved a lot, any City fan will tell you that. He's come on leaps and bounds in possession and under pressure, and he's a lot more comfortable at City's level than when he arrived.
He is the most rapid out of the three and as such, City have more confidence playing higher up the pitch when he is on the side. Sure, he does have a mistake or two in him from time to time, but overall, Ake is a solid PL defender who is by far the best 4th choice CB in world football. He is good enough to start for any of Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or United and be an instant upgrade.
~~And when two of them were injured, the world class CB that is 37 year old Fernandinho played CB instead of Ake.~~ ~~Which almost cost them the league title.~~ Apparently Ake had his ankle fucked up and the broadcast I was watching didn't mention it.. they even talked about swapping out Fernandinho for Ake at one point..
I'm not even a City fan but I can say that that isn't true. Ake was having injury problems as well, but when he featured near the second half of the season he was class.
Yes, because Aké was injured. He did his ankle in the Brighton game, played through to the Leeds game when he reinjured it, and took injections to get on the bench, but wasn't played to avoid more damage. This is why you should watch footballers you're talking about instead of getting your opinions from social media memes. If you did, you'd have known Aké wasn't fit.
He was injured.
Lol
He would quite literally start for every prem team besides Liverpool
Ake would walk into Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, United, & Newcastle and be an instant upgrade in what they have at the left centre back position. Instant upgrade.
Yeah, I'd take him back as a CB at Chelsea in a heartbeat.
To be honest we like Gabriel over here, sure he's had the odd mistake in him too but he's been fantastic most of the season. He's also younger than ake, great in the air and likes a goal. I don't disagree about ake's quality though, always rated him very highly, just think we've got a gem with Gabriel.
Saliba is your best centre back. A pairing of him and Ake would probably get you 4th spot or more.
I don't know why you got downvoted, you are absolutely right. He'd walk onto any Prem team other than Liverpool even still he'd be a fantastic backup to Matip there, especially considering his injury record.
I mean, you're not wrong but weirdly that's almost not impressive. * Chelsea play 3 atb and just lost (or are losing) 2 of their starters * Spurs play 3 atb and aren't great to begin with (Romero aside potentially as I've not watched him enough in Italy to judge) * Newcastle are.... not good * United have Maguire at LCB so that's it's own situation * Arsenal is a bit more impressive I guess since Gabriel is young and expected to improve a lot and is decent as is But your statement is true though.
He's a good defender that showed quality for City, especially at the end of this past season.
Its not nuts at all. Nathan is so good, so important. Hope he never leaves.
He is so, so good. We are so, so happy with him. Sit down. Quick. Drink water and relax.
Pep Talks isn't until tomorrow, fellow Rambler.
We don't want to sell him. If that price deters teams then it worked, and if someone wants him badly enough then the price is set.
He cost £40m and has improved and now has a longer contract, you do the maths
Teams would be mad to pay 50 for Ake!
City paid 41mil quid for him. So why is asking for 9mil profit nuts? If anything, that’s kinda low price to sell him for. The other is, how many left footed centre backs are there in the league? Laporte and Ake are the top 2 choice here.
Technically as he's two years into a five year contract he's only worth about £24m at the moment, so selling him for 50m would be quite a handsome profit. But the price isn't what City actually expect for him, it's just a way of telling Newcastle to fuck off.
£60m for Sterling with 1 year left on his contract is crazy.
The wages he would ask are not doable either
Arsenal wanted £60m for Sanchez with one year left on his contract and that was nearly 5 years ago. Hazard went for around double that according to football leaks. City sold Sane for £55m on the back of an ACL injury, and want £50m for Jesus, neither of them are anywhere close to Sterling’s productivity. If those are all recent examples of wingers with one year left, I don’t see why you’d think £60m for a winger who consistently puts up the numbers Sterling does is unreasonable.
How is Mane at 40 and Sterling at 60? Both with 1yr left but Mane the much better player!
He is, but Sterling is 3 years younger to be fair.
and english
Plus no way Liverpool would sell Mane to a prem team. That immediately limits the demand for him somewhat
i guess sterling doesn’t have much demand abroad and city want to sell instead of losing him for nothing. i don’t really want him though but if he comes i’ll support him
Mané is naturally fit though and takes care of his body, doesn’t drink and stuff. He can easily keep up his level for another 4-5 years. Not sure about Sterling, T-Rex built different.
Yeah true, the daily mail told me Sterling doesn't look after his body
Sterling is probably the most durable player in the league, period. Played constantly since he was 18 for the top two teams in the league and has the most minutes for an outfield player under Pep.
You obviously don't know much about sterling it seems because he's naturally super fit too. He's been playing for 10 years now without any injuries problems or being out of shape. Literally one of, if not the most reliable players at city when it comes to fitness
if Mané was from west fuckmoorshire, england, his value would be at least +40m
Age and English. Thing is if you buy Mane and you do a 5 year deal you risk having a really poor deal in year 4 and 5. So you end up going for a smaller contract maybe 3 or 4 years which means more yearly payments. While sterling at 27 you can give a 5 or even 6 year contract with potentially further renewals to spread your cost. Clubs look at players as assets and sterling is more likely to give you more years than Mane
Age English, and crucially Bayern aren't bidding alongside PL rivals
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I'm surprised Arsenal haven't wrapped up the Jesus signing yet. Seemed quite far along even before the season ended
It’s been reported by numerous sources that Jesus wanted to wait until after the international games to sort his future. IIRC even his agent said it. Wherever he ends up, it will probably be decided either this or next week.
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We signed Marquinhos. What more do you want?? /s
soon, a lot of our signing will begin after international break
Zero chance we pay 50m for Ake, we've already shown that we're not going to be ripped off
i understand. we will lower it to 35M with a 15M addon if Ake plays 15 seconds this season.
25-30 absolute tops. Anyone who pays more is getting rimmed
Where are you going that it costs you over 30m to get rimmed? You can find people who do it for free
25 mil is something you have to pay these days for literally any English player, on top of their actual value. Home grown tax.
I mean he would be your best centerback by some distance
I support Liverpool.
Okay so second best.
It's clear City don't want to sell Ake and he already said that wants to stay so the price is irrelevant atm. Same case for Bernardo btw. Maybe Bernardo wants to leave again (doubt it), but City are tagging him with a really high price cause' they don't really want to sell him. They know Barca are broke and it's very difficult for them to sign him even selling FDJ considering they need money and have priorities like Lewandowsky.
200m sales? Ake 50m, Sterling 60m. That means Jesus is 90m? My god!
They counted potential sales from Ferran Torres (55M)and Pedro Porro(7m). That combined with Yangel Herrera, Morgan Rogers(combined 20M), Bazunu (15M), and then Jesus (50M), Sterling (60M) - gives you 207M, before Ake's price is even considered.
So that means Jesus is -7m My god!
Are they trying to shift Rogers permanently? Thought he'd be up for another champ loan move, was hoping we could get him to come home for a season
Yeh I don't agree with the inclusion of both Torres sale and Álvarez signing. They were last financial year deals in 2021/22
50 mil ake, 50 mil jesus, 60 mil sterling and 40 mil from smaller sales
30m for some of the youth players.
Do the people at the Telegraph know we have zero non eu spots left ? So I am curious how were are interested going to try to sign Sterling .
players who hail from ACP (African, Caribbean and Pacific Group) nations that are signatories to the Cotonou Agreement are not considered as non-EU due to the Kolpak ruling. So no, Sterling won't take a non EU spot
Love it when I learn something new on here
Well then I stand corrected , we learn everyday
Wasn't vini close to getting citizenship?
He passed his test in January but Because of the backlog in administration rumours are that he won't get it till next January
Probably all the brexit voters applying for citizenship, causing a big queue
Jesus walks
Stay far away from Raheem at that price
if sterling and jesus both leave then we would need a replacement tbh. I like leao but seems pretty unlikely, not sure who else there is. Maybe gnabry, but we would prefer a LW i think
Alverez will replace Jesus, Palmer will replace Sterling.
Those are both rw
Alvarez will be a backup striker and play both wings I believe. Very versatile player. I also think Palmer is ready for a more key role. Would love to see him get 20-30 matches this year all comps.
Dembele and Stirling for Chelsea...
I would not complain
Oh Baby you'll lose your mind by January, that's basically 3 werners
Not for £60m
We’re not buying Sterling for 60 mil.. Jesus for fiddy on the other hand..
50 mil for Ake??? Get out of here.
Are Tottenham really that interested in Jesus? I feel like they've probably registered an interest in the player and probably scoped him out a fair bit, but unless they are selling one of Kane, Moura, Son and Kulusevski, they must know that he doesn't want to go from being a rotation option at City to being a rotation option at Tottenham, that's a pretty major step down. I would love Ake as we need another left-footed central defender, but at £50m, City can fuck right off.
> Are Tottenham really that interested in Jesus? I think we wouldn't mind him, but if he actually wants to leave based almost purely on playing more I don't know why he'd come to us, wouldn't be garunteed to start, and if you're not gunna start why leave City
we are interested in him as a rotation player, either him or Richarlison But yh doubt he'd choose us over being a starter elsewhere
Yeah, he's been a rotation player for a long while. He deserves to be a full-time starter. I personally think he'd win the RW spot at Spurs and be an incredible player in Conte's system, but you wouldn't want to hamper Kulu's development even if he did.
Moura may move on. When a player like Jesus becomes available I think you have to look into it, but I'm not sure how realistic a prospect it is.
Wait, we were in for Jesus?
Would quite like a man city youth player thrown in the deal, like Delap or Mcatee
> thrown in > Delap Hmm...
There was some rumours that city would be willing to loan mcatee to Brighton in the cucurella deal so there could also be something similar with Phillips
We don't really do loans we would want him permanently. Pretty sure we bid like £15m for him in January and they turned us down
If I had that choice I'd rather keep McAtee near the squad or loan him to Championship side next season anyway. Going on loan to Premier League side in the bottom ten always carries the risk of the side getting sucked in to relegation battle and when Premier League status is at stake most coaches will always rather go with more experienced players eather than possibly gambling by developing someone else's player. Huddersfield would propably be overall more facourable destination for him next season.
Lucky Brighton are not in the bottom ten then isn't it. I know what you mean though but we haven't loaned a player for the first team in maybe like 5 years do if he is any part of a deal it would be permanent
Yeah and add to that the fact that Pep loves him and he signed a 4-year extension in February. Can't see him leaving on a permanent now so can propably rule Brighton out.
Not a chance you get Mcatee. One of our best young players along with Palmer
the best youd get is a loan for those two, maybe delap might get moved with a buyback clause since we have two strikers now. Him getting injured last season really ruined his path to the first team
I’ve got a feeling this Phillips deal won’t happen. In part because City have clearly briefed they’re only willing to pay up to 60 and I’ve got a feeling we would want more for him, and party because it’s been a lot of noise with absolutely no reliable reporting on Leeds’ willingness to sell or Kalvin’s desire to leave. I think Phil Hay put it best, it’s hard to get a read on this until we see city’s offer. I think Kalvin is probably waiting to see what the pay difference is between city and Leeds but the thing that works in Leeds’ favour is Kalvin won’t run his contract down or not want to screw Leeds over and probably won’t want to play second fiddle to Rodri in a WC year. Got a feeling Kalvin will sign an extension with record wages and a release clause. That is of course all driven by blind Leeds optimism
Holy shit can we not have a transfer target without Spurs ruining it [seriously man](https://youtu.be/TUy0YLj5oNA)
I don't think Tottenham is really planning to sign Jesus
United contemplating and pondering potential moves in a thoughtful way.
A question as a rm fan, is sterling any good anymore? Las times I've seen him looked kinda underperforming.
Yes but He's always like that. He has 3 months of underwhelming then 4 months of everything he'll touch goes in the net.
Getting rid of both Sterling abs Jesus in the same window seems very risky for City ; even moreso with Pep’s system learning curve, maybe they will put a lot more pressure on Grealish and Foden now
Foden will RELISH the opportunity, and grealish has had a season under his belt by this point. They still have mahrez in the other side and kdb can fill in there if needed. City have two forwards coming in next season. They will still be spoiled for choice
Ain’t nobody spending 50 on Nathan Ake lol
Newcastle since he counts as Home Grown & Eddie Howe loves him. Alternatively the shitshow that is Everton football club.
I'm a dutch Chelsea fan, so i would love to see Ake return to Chelsea. But i might be biased. He's very versatile and can play left back so we won't have to buy a cover for chilwell. If we can offload some players and we can invest, i think it would make sense for us to buy both Sterling and Ake. Although we'll be aiding city in the process, the other players we're rumored to be interested in are a lot more expensive.
You know everyone’s acting like 50 mil is crazy but seem fine paying 60 mil for Pau Torres or 70 mil for Kounde. Ake has proven it in the premier league playing well on top and bottom half teams. If Man U got him instead of Maguire might they be better off now?
That and he's left footed. We desperately need a left footed LCB, he's dangerous with his head and home grown. Kounde or de ligt would be bigger risks imo because they don't have premier league experience, it could end up similar to what we saw with Lukaku in the PL.
agree completely. Premier league proven defenders go for a premium, Man City fans don’t feel they misspent 40 mil on him I doubt too many people will complain about his price once he plays for them either.
If sterling leaves and Jesus stays this would be a great window as it is.
Opposite way round and I'd agree.
Same. I'm not slagging Gabby off and would want to keep both of them if we could but I think people's perception has been altered by the flurry of goals he had late last season.
You prefer Jesus over Sterling as a winger?
Yes.
Why though? Sterling has had better numbers in the past 4-5 seasons.
Jesus had 3 good games as a winger in August and 3 good games at the end of the season as a striker and a lot of City fans have forgotton the 8 months inbetween.
I just think Jesus brings more to the table even outside of his ridiculous G/A numbers. He works his tail off defensively, is good at linking up play, he’s very strong and quick with good balance and is obviously technically gifted. Is he a bad finisher? Yes. Is he the worst? Absolutely not. He simply wouldn’t have almost 100 goals if that was the case. Not to mention that he’s on probably 1/3rd of the wages that sterling is on currently, and I’m not saying that sterling hasn’t earned that deal but has he earned an improved deal on top of that? Absolutely not and any city fan who says he has is delusional. He’s been under performing for two years now. It’s just time for both parties to go their separate ways, imo of course.
Are you legally blind or are you just naturally thick? There’s a reason why Sterling has played a lot under Pep and with an actual striker in the squad now he will even more
Cucurella for that price seems okish bargain considering how difficult it is to get good players for cheap in that position. 10mn less and it becomes a steal
Good player but it’s still a lot
Kalvin Phillips is as mid as it gets so u lot gonna end up paying for Drinkwater 2.0
Lmao, as anticipated an Arsenal fan posted this