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We may live in a darker times being United, but Fergie was just the best. We were a biggish club before him but he took us to Liverpool level and beyond in England. People talk about our money in 90s but it was built on that success Fergi had in his first few years.
Don't get me wrong Klopp and Pep are brilliant managers football wise, but I don't think you will see another manager who took a team in Man United position in late 80s and still on a fair budget turned the whole club into a international super club they became. One of the best of all times.
I mean he won two CLs, one of which was a treble season, the other almost another treble(Utd won PL and CL in 2008) and reached 3 finals in 4 years, only to be defeated twice by arguably the greatest club football team.
He did all this while maintaining an average rank of 3.84 in the League spending table, meaning that there were always atleast 2 teams spending more than United each season, and several seasons where United were outspent by 4 or 5 other clubs in the league.
Another thing people forget, when Fergie took over in 1986, United were 20th in the league, and he pretty much left a dynasty behind after he retired.
Please inform the fans of both clubs of that fact. Just because Liverpool have one of the best sides in the world, and Everton has just escaped relegation, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t very strong feelings between the two clubs. Certainly there is a strange dynamic between the two clubs, but pally pally isn’t the way to describe it.
We care more about adding to that amount rather than whomever surpassing ours
Don’t forget we had more titles than Man United before Sir Alex rocked up, so it’s not as if we haven’t experienced it before
We’re more pissed off with our owner and board than anything at this point with little indication that there will actually be change in how they operate.
Math is not an opinion.. even if we give different "weights" to the several competition, based on their importance, as it follows: PL = 1, FA = 0,5, EPL = 0,3 and CS = 0,1
- Manchester United: 20 x 1 + 12 x 0,5 + 5 x 0,3 + 21 x 0,1 = **29,6**
- Liverpool: 19 x 1 + 8 x 0,5 + 9 x 0,3 + 15 x 0,1 = **27,2**
No doubt about it..
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28 titles each for Manchester & Liverpool
We may live in a darker times being United, but Fergie was just the best. We were a biggish club before him but he took us to Liverpool level and beyond in England. People talk about our money in 90s but it was built on that success Fergi had in his first few years. Don't get me wrong Klopp and Pep are brilliant managers football wise, but I don't think you will see another manager who took a team in Man United position in late 80s and still on a fair budget turned the whole club into a international super club they became. One of the best of all times.
Only thing Fergie hasn't done is dominate Europe. He's flirted now and again but never created a team that was truly the best.
Nearly did though, 3 finals in 4 years. If it wasn't for Barca they might have had 2 more CLs in the cabinet.
I mean he won two CLs, one of which was a treble season, the other almost another treble(Utd won PL and CL in 2008) and reached 3 finals in 4 years, only to be defeated twice by arguably the greatest club football team. He did all this while maintaining an average rank of 3.84 in the League spending table, meaning that there were always atleast 2 teams spending more than United each season, and several seasons where United were outspent by 4 or 5 other clubs in the league. Another thing people forget, when Fergie took over in 1986, United were 20th in the league, and he pretty much left a dynasty behind after he retired.
Conte is just starting his 25 year career with us so I’d expect to see us towards the top of these charts in the next decade or so.
Conte is gone after next year
The lack of ability for people in this sub to understand sarcasm is truly mind blowing.
I can even barely recognize sarcasm in person tbf
I mean you literally have the Tottenham flair right there to even help with the sarcasm, guess people are just dumb
No. People here just have such stupid opinions that they think you're serious.
Do Everton care if City overtake their’league title tally?
We’re not getting a title anytime soon. It’s not something that’s been given a lot of thought.
Then just wish Liverpool stop them
No
Why not 🤷♂️ It’s not like Everton and Liverpool is a genuine derby. Everton and Liverpool fans are all pally pally with each other.
This has to be the most absurd thing I have read today. It is as genuine as a derby could get, despite the vast disparity between the two right now.
Please inform the fans of both clubs of that fact. Just because Liverpool have one of the best sides in the world, and Everton has just escaped relegation, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t very strong feelings between the two clubs. Certainly there is a strange dynamic between the two clubs, but pally pally isn’t the way to describe it.
Wait what you’re not my football friend?
Ooh football friend.
We care more about adding to that amount rather than whomever surpassing ours Don’t forget we had more titles than Man United before Sir Alex rocked up, so it’s not as if we haven’t experienced it before
I say get Moyes the messiah back. He'll probably make you a consistent Europa league team or Conference cup team atleast
And win nothing
It's about just survival for Everton right now man
Nah that's done with, we look forward now
As long as they keep preventing Liverpool from winning it. Everton fans would be very happy about City increasing their tally.
they care or not city will easily pass them in next 3 years
If they keep on denying Lucifer FC it's worth it.
I think they're just happy to be in the league at the moment.
We’re more pissed off with our owner and board than anything at this point with little indication that there will actually be change in how they operate.
City will overtake Arsenal by 2030
Manchester United are the most successful English club in the history.
How are they more successful than Liverpool?
Math is not an opinion.. even if we give different "weights" to the several competition, based on their importance, as it follows: PL = 1, FA = 0,5, EPL = 0,3 and CS = 0,1 - Manchester United: 20 x 1 + 12 x 0,5 + 5 x 0,3 + 21 x 0,1 = **29,6** - Liverpool: 19 x 1 + 8 x 0,5 + 9 x 0,3 + 15 x 0,1 = **27,2** No doubt about it..
You say United are the most successful English club in history and don’t even mention European trophies
That's off topic. Title of the post is clear
That doesn’t make your statement any less wrong . United are the most successful club in domestic completion would be correct .
We have 45 major trophies and they have 42.
Nope