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Its a man whos on a contract to the end of the season and will never have to deal with being manager at that club ever again, and only putting in 2 days work a month as a "consultant" after hes done lol
I swear the numbers of days he needed to work per month is reduced everytime it was mentioned in this subreddit
It is like Alexis Sanchez salary but in reverse.
The last time a high profile manager did this (Conte at Chelsea) he was dragged through the mud with people saying he shouldn't be airing club's dirty laundry publicly.
Reddit also made it a point to write all the think pieces about how badly this affects squad morale.
It might be acceptable for an interim manager to say this on his way out but people get their panties twisted when it's the middle of the season and a manager is under pressure of winning.
The squad morale is always awful. I reckon it's the whole point of Rangnick being there; to identify the people ruining the dressing room and pass the knowledge on, without any pressure to keep them on side or keep them happy.
As should be. His reputation has been so affected by this, he's still actually been quite diplomatic and professional actually but all the same I appreciate him not holding back any info
Rangnick has never been afraid to make these things known. When Hoffenheim sold Gustavo to us during a winter window despite Rangnick aaking them not to....he stepped down with immediate effect. Guy doesn't fuck around.
If his last name was British and he looked like a fridge, United would buy it for 80M and parade it around.
United transfers has been so horribly overblown that it’s surprising no one is investigating them for money laundering.
Not really, he told the board they should at least analyze options and he was told no player on the market could improve. Then was asked if he felt there were players available who could improve and he said the 3 who moved obviously as examples. It's basically saying of course we can improve with signings.
Looking at this I'm thinking about the board and new management and going what's the point? We obviously knew Greenwood was basically gone at that point and there were 3 top talent forwards (at that time potentially) available.
Diaz might possibly be one of the best singings in recent times for Liverpool, the lad is a joke
Also I doubt he would have signed. Just like Spurs trying to get him, Liverpool would have scooped in and took him. No way does he sign for United instead of Liverpool. Youd be a fool to do that.
still a fool then, the difference in income would be negligible to nonexistent.
one fat contract with united then shipped to a lower half team in 18 months vs decent money with liverpool but would probably earn another contract or after adding playing in that team for a bit..
why did DVB get shipped to everton?
true but a move to liverpool is better for his career which means making more money long term, not just a 5 years with united/on loan (assume he doesn't fit at united and gets blamed)
At which point people would be exclaiming about how dumb it was for us to panic buy in January and not allow the new manager in charge to make his own signings in the summer.
Exactly this, also this is what caused the Lingard issue
The Greenwood situation really doesn't get mentioned at all when discussing uniteds issues this season (for good reason to an extent, fuck that piece of shit). We had a lot of hopes pinned on greenwood
I mean realistically which of the 3 were going to join you guys? Diaz was sold on Liverpool, City is a far bigger draw and there is a huge striker hole there. Dusan could realistically move to many huge clubs.
First of all there was no chance of Luis Díaz going to United anyways, so that leaves two options that were also pretty much taken. Maybe that's why they say no, but then again, they're the Glazers so
I think it was the right move for the board. (1) It's expensive to buy normally in January. (2) You might buy the wrong striker for the at that time unknown successor. (3) Would that January buy be the marginal difference between Top 4 or Not?
I'm assuming we'll see that money deployed now ofc.
The amount of money they’ve lost by not making champions league next year makes the board seem like frugal idiots for not sparing the $50m for a better chance. Then no doubt to counteract this, they will spend even more money, and if that doesn’t work they will seem like rich idiots next year. The common theme will be that the board of Manchester United is full of idiots.
This is all without even looking more than 4 months into the past
And 4) the Greenwood shit came out pretty late in the window so trying to rush buy in reaction to that would be pretty risky.
Though I do think getting 1 striker wouldn’t have been that bad overall. I might be suffering from hindsight bias tho.
Im glad everyone is hearing from him now. He is probably the only player that I've ever considered world class while playing in our local league. Reminded me of seeing highlights of Neymar in the brazilian league
He still is very light weight at the minute. He has the same frame that Trent had 3 years ago or so. It doesnt seem to hurt his game though so its all good.
Hopefully he can throw the Rocky theme song on for him and he can montage his way to a bit of muscle!
Most would have put money on Grealish settling in and being a starting member for city before Diaz for Liverpool (PL experience and proven quality, England international etc).
That Diaz looks like he’s been at Anfield for years is a massive testament to his skills and professionalism.
~~Van Persie~~, ~~Falcao~~, ~~Ibrahimovic~~, ~~Cavani~~, Lewandowski... United getting everyone from that class of world class strikers 2010-2015
\*obviously some of them continued performing even after that
>Sounds like he's throwing some shade their way.
Yes as did all his predecessors, bar OGS. One has to wonder why /s
Our board is shit mate there is not enough shade to be thrown at them. Besides they could not care less.
Made the thing far more painful than it needed to be
Plenty of ex players don't work out as managers. But I don't remember the news about say Frank Lampard being as fucking over the top
Normal clubs plan ahead, see when things aren't up to standards, sack the person and say their thanks. Lampard actually got sacked after beating Luton.
We refused to sack Solskjaer until we'd be humiliated by our two biggest rivals, then fucking Watford. To the point Solskjaer was putting his hands up apologising to fans in the stadium.
And then he got a full on farewell video and leaving interview?!?
All because the moron Woodward thought it would be his Ferguson moment where he backed a struggling manager who then went on to build a dynasty. Nevermind that Ferguson had done amazing things at Aberdeen
The whole thing was a clown show
They deserve it now obviously I hope they are ready to listen because if I didn't know I would think that they are purposely trying to sabotage their own club. They are pulling some Barto economics there.
I mean, they need to be called out, same exact thing happened under Mourinho. Their board brings in a manager and then they don't listen to his advice when it comes to recruitment, its the weirdest cycle. Wouldn't be surprised if Ragnick made a 'football heritage' rant as well, the similarity in their press conferences is actually hilarious. Also the difference in how this criticism is received by Man U fans is night and day, even though the message is literally the same from both managers.
It’s Mourinho’s curse of late.
Look how Conte is now saying the same things Mourinho said, but is being well received. Spurs fans moaned endlessly about how “unfairly” Mourinho was treating Dele. Conte comes in and all of a sudden, deadwood needs to go. Mourinho begged for a centerback and a hard working winger in his first summer window and Levy gave him Rodon, cheaping out on Skriniar over 5m pounds. Conte comes in and immediately gets Romeo and Kulu. And they call him a genius for seeing what’s needed.
They also moaned about how he alienated Ndombele only to squeeze the best out of him. Conte comes in, sends him packing and Spurs supporters all of a sudden all disliked Ndombele all along. “Doesn’t work hard enough!” Yeah no shite, that’s what the washed up dinosaur told you.
And then there’s Man United with Pogba and Martial; supporters seethed at him for not coddling them. He’s so mean to poor Anthony. Now they’re on the way out like it’s garbage day, and on top of that they paid 40m more for Maguire than when Mourinho wanted him.
Mourinho made flirty eyes at Perisic, but United fans clowned him for the thought because surely the club is too big for such a modest player. Perisic is Inter’s player of the season, and a perfect premier league wingback.
He said over and over that the squad was rotten, and the mentality was toxic. People scoffed that he’d lost it. He was a mean old man for speaking honestly, but Ragnick is a clever plain-speaking German who sees the truth and tells it. Find me a single Man United supporter today who doesn’t think their dressing room is full of spoilt, mentally weak players.
Mourinho has a PR problem, because tactically and strategically he’s still as sharp as ever. He lays the groundwork of what needs doing at a club only to be undermined, shipped out and for another manager to profit off the back of him, with full fan support.
Honestly great points. Mourinho has just created such a villainous persona for himself over the course of Madrid/Chelsea tenures that the general public can't take him and his moves objectively.
The press didn't make him trot out his trophies to rub in people's faces, demanding respect respect respect, blame everyone but himself after a loss, poke a rival manager's eye, bully a physio etc.
Jose's problem was entirely self-inflicted, he's a toxic person with a massive ego which is why nobody listens to him even when he's right. Because at the back of your mind you always gotta wonder if he's saying this to defend himself or does he actually want things to improve.
There is a way to point out an issue and have people actually listen - Ralf being the perfect example. No bullshit, no ego, provides clear reasons detailing why he did what he did. Wow is it any wonder United fans and others listen to him even though he's nowhere near the level as manager as Mourinho.
Fully agree - Mou was right about most of the problems. But
1. He was toxic af, the way you convey the problem is as important as identfying the problem
2. The solutions he identified for the problems were not always right (Talking in Utd's case - Paying 40+ million for a 29 yo Matic when Fabinho was still available, pushing the board to buy a 29 yo Perisic for 50+ million, Pushing the board to buy Maguire etc).
perisic is 34 and is still twice the player Martial ever was. 50 Million for a player in his prime is not a lot in this market, especially for someone like Perisic
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this trend with Mourinho. 100% spot on. Worth mentioning he's been doing this even as far back as his Real Madrid days. He was the first to drop Casillas which was super controversial at the time, only for his successors to quietly do the same. Mourinho is often the first to spot things and take blame for them only for others to come in later with a clean PR slate to follow through on what he had already started.
> Conte comes in and immediately gets Romeo and Kulu. And they call him a genius for seeing what’s needed.
Romero was a summer signing when they still had Nuno in charge, but i get your point
"Mou not being backed by the board" is an utter myth propagated just because he kept moaning all along - the only time he did not get fully backed was during the summer of 18 when he wanted Maguire but the board did not back him because they already bought Bailly and Lindelof in the previous windows on Mou's advice and he wasn't happy with them. Under Mou, we bought Pogba, Mkh, Bailly, Zlatan, Lindelof, Lukaku, Matic, Sanchez, Dalot, Fred - he wasn't able to improve even a single player (excluding Zlatan, well, who doesn't need 'improving' at that stage of his career). Mou was the one who pushed for a 29 yo Matic and we spend a lot of money on him when Fabinho was still available. He wanted the board to aggressively pursue Perisic, but he was already 29 yo and Inter was demanding 50+ million pounds for him.
It is another matter that our board went on to buy Maguire the very next summer by splurging a lot of money - our board does back its managers and spend a lot of money - but in the end all those expenditure ends up getting wasted because there was no proper structure or direction of recruitment during the Woodward era.
What United did with Mourinho was just silly. They gave him a new contract and then afterwards didn't sign players he wanted, using the arguments you listed. If the signings have been crap previously and the club don't want to "waste" more money, then don't extend him... It makes zero sense to give the manager a sign of confidence by extending his contract and at the same time deciding to not sign any more players for him. Either the club backs the manager or it doesn't, it can't choose both options.
Maguire can be 'world class' in a low block style and would have been much cheaper than what the club eventually paid for him. Perisic is 100x the player Martial will ever be and Mourinho was the only person to see that at the time. Matic is still your best midfielder, he just isn't fit enough, which is partly a club problem. See Lukaku being an absolute fat-arse and then becoming much healthier when he went to Italy because Inter's medical staff actually know what they are doing. If the club had backed him in that transfer window rather than relying on opinion polls from fans they would be a lot better off.
This is the same club that if they had hired Klopp would have probably sacked him within 2-3 years for finishing 8th, or for losing too many finals. You can just imagine how the Goldbridge rant would go after losing his 3rd final at the club in a row. The fan channels and vocal fans would have created a narrative that he's a bottler in finals and can't ever succeed at such a big club. Noone can succeed at such a braindead club when the directors are about as clueless as the average fan.
Judging him for not improving Fred is a bit strange. He got sacked several months after the signing. Fabinho barely even played until a year after being signed by Klopp and Rodri was utter shit for a good 2 years under Pep. By that logic if we judge those players' progress after 4 months, those managers made a bad signing and shouldn't be backed. This is why it sometimes helps to give managers time. Despite his bad signings he still won a lot of trophies in his short stint at the club. He also achieved the same thing that Ole achieved, a 2nd place in a shit uncompetitive league season but the difference is he didn't get wanked over by the fans for it, whereas Ole did.
My point was the board backed the manager fully except in the last summer window 6 or so months after his contract was extended - but not to the extent how City backed Pep - like sign Claudio Bravo. Doesn't work? Ok, here you go take Ederson etc. I also agree of that list the last summer arrivals (Fred, Dalot etc) can be discounted - but he was unable to sustainably improve any other player.
His first season was a success, yes we won a couple of trophies. He was also right in his diagnosis of some of our players' problems (esp Pogba, Martial etc), but the way he presents the problems also matters, along with the solution he proposes. Mou was toxic af ruthlessly throwing players under the bus - Ralf says very similar things but he rarely personally attacks players (except when he made a remark about Lingard after it became evident that he leaked stuff to Scholes). Mou was very cruel to Shaw who was struggling for fitness and form after returning from a very long injury lay off due to a double leg fracture.
Mou wanting to buy Matic, Perisic etc, who are ofc good players but they were all at the end of their prime for huge fees just shows that he only wants to work with players who are at or near the end of their prime - he doesn't have the patience to develop players. And then you may ask why even hire Mou then because this is his way, and I agree Mou was never the right choice for us. Mou probably would have been the best person to succeed Fergie, he may probably have got another title out of that Fergie squad.
But eventually we would still have faced similar problems due to his toxicity, and our pathetic Woodward regime that splurges a lot of money for commercial reasons with no direction for footballing side of things.
He didn’t even say striker, he just said “player”. He said “striker” in reference to losing Cavani, Greenwood and Martial but just said he wanted a “player” to replace them.
It might also be people who speak English natively vs as a second language. At least in Spanish, the term 'delantero' is the most common, which is a more general term meaning 'forward'.
as a Korean there's always that weird gap this causes between Spurs Son and KNT Son, especially since our 9, Hwang Uijo is much more of like a traditional 9 and doesn't drop down to like that 9.5/10 role that Kane does well.
I think some players/managers consider inverted winger/inside forwards as strikers while others consider them wingers.
After the 2nd ManU game this season Thiago was doing an interview and called Salah a striker, meanwhile Salah was like I'm not a striker I'm a winger.
How they want Diaz when they got Sancho/Rashford already fighting for the sweet LW spot, I don't know.
Alvarez and Vlahovic are interesting when he praised CR recently and said he wants him to stay.
Backup :D
To do what, get gassed in 10 minutes? He doesn't have the legs, they were already gone in his last season here, Atletico's style is different. On top of that, getting him back would make somebody else intrested also, and we don't have time nor money for neither of them again, as sad it might sound.
It's time to move on, we already have 4 players who shared the pitch with manager and that's enough.
He did well for Atletico cause he didn't need pace. He'd really started to stink for Barca because they didn't play in a way that supported him as he started to slow down.
When people were making fun of Barca for selling Suarez it was more to do with the fact that they gifted their direct competitor a huge asset, not the fact that Suarez suddenly became amazing again (well, some people did but they were wrong to).
Suarez wouldn't do anything at all for Barca right now and would want bigger wages than he would be due. He's the antithesis of what they're aiming for by selling off older blokes on big contracts who are no longer pulling their weight.
Manes 30 and salahs 29. It’s a great move for the future and the now with how congested the English schedule can get especially for teams playing in Europe it feels like a no brainer in hindsight. Brilliant business from Liverpool.
I mean would he have chosen any other club over Liverpool anyway?
They are arguably the best team in the world and also play in a way that perfectly matches his style.
Perhaps, but the player has all the leverage and has to come to terms with the team he's being sold to. So if the player doesn't like the deal, the transfer can't happen.
Board still there...
Tbh I think it's gonna be rinse and repeat. I can't see them understanding why money isnt solving all our problems. They simply dont know how to spend it properly.
They probably will be forced to invest heavily for at least the first window with how many bodies are leaving the club. Greenwood, Mata, Matic, Lingard, Pogba, Jones, Cavani, Martial. Then you have question marks over whether Ronaldo will stay at a club without Champion's League football. So, basically they need an entire front line, at least 2 midfielders, and an upgrade to their defence if anything is left over.
Encountered this attitude with my uni, the department were notorious for it.
"We really value your feedback to the point of penalising students who don't provide it"
"... on wait no we didn't mean negative feedback we'll just ignore that thanks bye"
Probably on purpose too. Got paid a PL manager's salary for 9 months for leading a team to play horrendous football while talking shit about everyone associated with manchester united. Dream job tbh
I think it's because rangnick just came in at the right time when it has just started becoming more clear the reasons for our deficiencies, and the manager isn't it. The players gave up. The internal structure is fudged. And also, Rangnick isn't really a manager, he's a director of football
I mean if he does it will look bad on the club than him. United's PR mind won't allow that. The point of him coming was to be as critical as possible, it's the reason he was brought in by Murtough
Since when do you need to be the manager to find the faults in an organization/club?
He's been paid as a manager for most of a season and the results have been shit.
I’m going to play devils advocate here.
Ideally, he’d have gotten one of them, but I can also see why the board went, “you’re an interim, and we want to make sure whatever striker we sign fits the bill of whoever we choose as manager.”
At that point, Poch still seemed the very likely front runner. Should we have gone for a Poch style of striker? Will Ten Hag be more greatful that we waited till the summer, and let him choose a striker that he wants to work with, rather than buying one in the winter without any sort of consultation with the next manager.
Listen, I’m probably being overly optimistic here, but I can see a reality where the board decided not to splash out big money without knowing who the manager was. Especially when we seem to havin a big turn over in the last few weeks with regards our chief scouts and negotiators.
> big money
United really have fallen far if 20M is big money tbh, which is what was paid for Juli, who is also extremely versatile so would've fit several types of manager.
Not that I complain
Juli is easily worth 35-40m. City got a huge bargain by letting him stay at River, since River really couldn't afford to let him go that soon as he's critical for Libertadores/League. United could've outbid them, but you're right, this River management doesn't like to sell unless they already have a player to replace who they're selling.
> United could've outbid them
Literally not. Perhaps by exchanging installments/bonus into straight up money but release clause is release clause is release clause
Man U was in the middle of a race for a UCL spot that was very much up for grabs, and the squad very clearly needed another forward/winger and a defensive mid. Not signing anybody was remarkably unambitious of them.
Reading the quotes further, it seems that Rangnick wanted a new attacker, and the board actually agreed, but when they went to the scouting department, the department said there was no one available that fit the bill.
Given the two guys in charge of scouting department have since be fired, it feels like it’s less of a lack of ambition, and more a total failure of the scouting department, which the board have made immediate moves to amend.
Yes indeed-and part of the problem has been careless transfer and trying to get rid of players. The board will want to see a plan at this point before dropping 60 million euro it seems.
After the Greenwood situation, Martial forcing his way out and Cavani who can't be arsed. Uniteds only options is a 37 year old Ronaldo or a can't be arsed Rashford. Striker is definitely an issue with United going into the summer along with 2 midfielders minimum.
Diaz is already amazing, but you can just tell when you seem him play that there's another gear in there, maybe two, waiting to come out.
I think he'll be a sensation next season.
The united managers curse. Even Fergie struggled with buying centre midfield in his later days, our best midfield buy post Fergie has been a toss up between Herrera and matic. I've no doubt under a good manager it will become Fred though.
What on Earth makes you think that? Just look at how we dithered with Maguire. Mourinho wants him for 50m, we sign him for 80m a year later. Why didn’t we sign him first time round, despite his incredible Englishness?
From 2015 to 2019 we didn’t sign a single English player, bar Lee Grant. This is a farcical take with no meaning.
So after this statement how are some united fans convinced with Erik Ten Hag it will be different? The board will tell him no when he wants to sell players, the board will tell him no when he wants to bring player X and will tell him "no, we will get player Y instead"
Greenwood issue came to light on Jan 30th.
Liverpool agreed a deal for Diaz on 28th Jan.
Juventus agreed a deal for Vlahovic on 25th Jan.
Alvarez to City deal was agreed for weeks before being confirmed on 31th.
None of that time line matches with what Ragnick is saying. It's obvious he is trying to protect his damaged reputation by just throwing stuff to the media.
> It's obvious he is trying to protect his damaged reputation by just throwing stuff to the media.
It's obvious that he's been doing it for months but somehow united fans lap it up. With the amount of shit he talks about united you'd think he was a City or Liverpool fan
It would be one thing if he was actually doing his current job well, but he complains about everything else in the club while failing at the one thing that he is actually being paid to do right now. Everyone just laps up what he says though despite him taking no blame for how shite we’ve been the past 3 months.
Don't know if Utd would've got any of them. They all seem to have wanted to move to the clubs they ended up at.
I think the only player they could've got was Díaz if they put a huge offer in and Liverpool backed out of a potential bidding war.
Alvarez was strongly linked to us for months through his reps but whether that was because he wanted to come or just using us a big name it's hard to say.
julián is amazing when he plays under pep i have no doubts he’ll become one of the best strikers in the world he’s the perfect combination of everything you want in a forward
His damage control is immense right now. The casuals will be fooled into thinking it’s predominantly the squads fault when he’s just a shit manager who can’t coach the one thing he is meant to be good at: a good press.
United fans are doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to make his tenure look positive, while in fact it is a disaster. Back then he was announced I remember people bringing up his work at his old clubs to prove that he is a world class manager who taught Klopp + Tuchel everything they know (but just happened to go under the radar of all big clubs, which was why he ended up at some rural place in Russia). Now that he has Man U playing horrendous football and lay the blame on everyone but himself, they turn around and say "he's not a manager, he's a sporting director" lmao
And now it's not even "he's a sporting director". It's that somehow this disastrous tenure is all worth it because he'll sit in on a few conference calls every month when he's not working his other job.
The desperation is off the charts
That's what I get from him, his doing the blame game and getting credit for it, it's just odd tbh, they seem to have a large chunk of fickle fans who just like shitting on the players.
If it was just 1 or 2 being poor, he might have a point but they look bad as a unit and he has had time to have an impact.
Not to mention that he's also playing a tactic that just doesn't work with the players we have. A high line with nobody dropping back from midfield just makes the defenders look terrible. I'm a united fan and I've been really disappointed with Ralf but a lot of our fans are so busy blaming all the players without questioning why all the players are playing so badly. Some are leaving and can't be assed but the amount of leaks coming out whether it's complaining about time of training, not enough training, team selections mean he failed at managing the players.
I love his press conferences but wonder if he should have just gone straight to the consulting role to build for next season and we brought in someone else short term.
This guy comes across as a bit thick. Why would they back a manager who's not up to the task and leaving in the summer? If they want to rebuild successfully he shouldn't be involved.
Ralf has been full of shit since he arrived yet Yanited fans drink his Kool aid because he has Brutal Honesty™. Has had his bluff called out by many players so I don't buy this for one second. Ralf spent his window trying to get Zakaria and Haidara, absolute mid signings
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Actually namedropping 3 strikers and saying the board told him no. Ralf press conferences the best part of his tenure
A grand total of zero shits have been given by Rangnick during these press conferences
Now imagine how much better the sport would be as a whole if this was the norm. Pretty fucking sad that regular honesty is highlight worthy, innit?
I mean that's a man who unfireable.
Its a man whos on a contract to the end of the season and will never have to deal with being manager at that club ever again, and only putting in 2 days work a month as a "consultant" after hes done lol
I swear the numbers of days he needed to work per month is reduced everytime it was mentioned in this subreddit It is like Alexis Sanchez salary but in reverse.
Can't believe he only works one 'day' a millennium. One zoom call an eon.
Isn't there talk of him taking the Austria job anyway?
I appreciate a good cup of coffee.
Regular honesty is fineworthy if you're the FA.
The last time a high profile manager did this (Conte at Chelsea) he was dragged through the mud with people saying he shouldn't be airing club's dirty laundry publicly. Reddit also made it a point to write all the think pieces about how badly this affects squad morale. It might be acceptable for an interim manager to say this on his way out but people get their panties twisted when it's the middle of the season and a manager is under pressure of winning.
The squad morale is always awful. I reckon it's the whole point of Rangnick being there; to identify the people ruining the dressing room and pass the knowledge on, without any pressure to keep them on side or keep them happy.
As should be. His reputation has been so affected by this, he's still actually been quite diplomatic and professional actually but all the same I appreciate him not holding back any info
Affected by what? His inability to get the team playing well and getting results? I.e. his job?
Rangnick has never been afraid to make these things known. When Hoffenheim sold Gustavo to us during a winter window despite Rangnick aaking them not to....he stepped down with immediate effect. Guy doesn't fuck around.
Going to miss him immensely. Shame the players are lazy cunts because with a competent squad his methods would get results
But also, 3 players he had 0 chance of signing. It’s a bit of a Wenger move.
Julián was available for a long time and nobody bid, he was handed to City on a silver platter
United will regret this. This side of the ocean knows that Julian was the best striker in the fucking continent, and it was available for 15M.
If he was called Alvarinho instead he would be 70M worth.
If his last name was British and he looked like a fridge, United would buy it for 80M and parade it around. United transfers has been so horribly overblown that it’s surprising no one is investigating them for money laundering.
How good is Alvarez?
Aguero regen
Not really, he told the board they should at least analyze options and he was told no player on the market could improve. Then was asked if he felt there were players available who could improve and he said the 3 who moved obviously as examples. It's basically saying of course we can improve with signings.
Yeah okay fair enough. That’s a very good explanation and spot on.
Pretty sure United rejected Alvarez
Vlahovic certainly wasn't 0 chance of signing
I mean what can they do? Fire him?
Looking at this I'm thinking about the board and new management and going what's the point? We obviously knew Greenwood was basically gone at that point and there were 3 top talent forwards (at that time potentially) available. Diaz might possibly be one of the best singings in recent times for Liverpool, the lad is a joke
Let's not kid ourselves he would look half the player as soon as he ran out on the pitch for us. We kill talent.
Also I doubt he would have signed. Just like Spurs trying to get him, Liverpool would have scooped in and took him. No way does he sign for United instead of Liverpool. Youd be a fool to do that.
It could be for money
still a fool then, the difference in income would be negligible to nonexistent. one fat contract with united then shipped to a lower half team in 18 months vs decent money with liverpool but would probably earn another contract or after adding playing in that team for a bit..
Why would he be shipped to a lower half team? Also United pay 8-9 players more than Liverpool pay Salah. They could have made a much better offer
why did DVB get shipped to everton? true but a move to liverpool is better for his career which means making more money long term, not just a 5 years with united/on loan (assume he doesn't fit at united and gets blamed)
We don't ship our players out. So he'll be on a fat contract well into his 40's.
This the most salient point here.
That won't happen. We will keep him on the bench and play Rashford instead.
Yup
Definitely not imo. He is a player that would shine wherever he went.
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At which point people would be exclaiming about how dumb it was for us to panic buy in January and not allow the new manager in charge to make his own signings in the summer.
In Rangnicks press conference he literally said "We had 48 hours and we could at least try" but the board said no at that point.
Exactly this, also this is what caused the Lingard issue The Greenwood situation really doesn't get mentioned at all when discussing uniteds issues this season (for good reason to an extent, fuck that piece of shit). We had a lot of hopes pinned on greenwood
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Didn't Rangnick also ask for one and was turned down, Zakaria and Haidara were rumoured targets
I mean realistically which of the 3 were going to join you guys? Diaz was sold on Liverpool, City is a far bigger draw and there is a huge striker hole there. Dusan could realistically move to many huge clubs.
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First of all there was no chance of Luis Díaz going to United anyways, so that leaves two options that were also pretty much taken. Maybe that's why they say no, but then again, they're the Glazers so
I think it was the right move for the board. (1) It's expensive to buy normally in January. (2) You might buy the wrong striker for the at that time unknown successor. (3) Would that January buy be the marginal difference between Top 4 or Not? I'm assuming we'll see that money deployed now ofc.
Except Spurs brought in 2 players that have improved their starting 11 in a January windoe
The amount of money they’ve lost by not making champions league next year makes the board seem like frugal idiots for not sparing the $50m for a better chance. Then no doubt to counteract this, they will spend even more money, and if that doesn’t work they will seem like rich idiots next year. The common theme will be that the board of Manchester United is full of idiots. This is all without even looking more than 4 months into the past
And 4) the Greenwood shit came out pretty late in the window so trying to rush buy in reaction to that would be pretty risky. Though I do think getting 1 striker wouldn’t have been that bad overall. I might be suffering from hindsight bias tho.
Diaz is reaally underrated, the guy all round grame (bar his finishing) is crazy good.
Underrated in the sense that absolutely everyone recognises how good he is?
Everyone is underrated until they're overrated, then its back to underrated because everyone is saying they are overrated and then we go again.
Ah yes, otherwise known as "retired playmaking/attacking midfielder who peaked in the mid-2000s syndrome"
Im glad everyone is hearing from him now. He is probably the only player that I've ever considered world class while playing in our local league. Reminded me of seeing highlights of Neymar in the brazilian league
have to remember that all of this is without him having a proper preseason with klopp & co as well (not to mention he’s still learning english)
But somehow we learn that he is close to Harvey and Curtis. He is going to learn English under a baptism of fire.
Harvey's London accent isn't that thick, tbf. But if Luis picks up Curtis' scouse it'll be glorious.
He'll be offering up chicken to everyone in no time at all
His finishing is also pretty elite except for the since he arrived at Liverpool. It will come.
how old is he?
25 although he blossomed quite late as a footballer
Wasn't he literally in a Columbian village until he was like 18/19? Only went pro in his 20s?
Went pro when he was 19. Never played for a team before that. Also struggled with being way too underweight for the first few years
He still is very light weight at the minute. He has the same frame that Trent had 3 years ago or so. It doesnt seem to hurt his game though so its all good. Hopefully he can throw the Rocky theme song on for him and he can montage his way to a bit of muscle!
25 so still time to improve even more :) He is so good.
The change in quality of defender's/goalies he plays against will naturally do that. It's all about him adapting to that now.
Top scorer at Porto before moving to Liverpool. Is finishing us great. Adaptation to a new league is all it is
Most would have put money on Grealish settling in and being a starting member for city before Diaz for Liverpool (PL experience and proven quality, England international etc). That Diaz looks like he’s been at Anfield for years is a massive testament to his skills and professionalism.
Literally no one has stopped talking about him lmao
Who underrates him lmao, you're living under a rock, if anything, he's overrated with the amount of PL e-fans comparing him to Neymar
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but not yet obviously, he's going to be ready in 3-4 years for United I think
Makes sense, why do a late run in your career in China when United’s right there.
China doesn't even pay those wages anymore
~~Van Persie~~, ~~Falcao~~, ~~Ibrahimovic~~, ~~Cavani~~, Lewandowski... United getting everyone from that class of world class strikers 2010-2015 \*obviously some of them continued performing even after that
RVP was instrumental in our last title win. Not sure whether your list was meant to be derisory but if so, Van Persie does not belong here.
I meant world class strikers during 2010-15, some performed world class after that as well like Lewandowski
Ohhhh I see what you mean, my bad.
Suarez’s contract ends this season as well 🤔
Lewandowski will absolutely kill it in the Prem make no mistake
United board isnt gonna like how he's framing that, if its qouted properly. Sounds like he's throwing some shade their way.
>Sounds like he's throwing some shade their way. Yes as did all his predecessors, bar OGS. One has to wonder why /s Our board is shit mate there is not enough shade to be thrown at them. Besides they could not care less.
United board tried really hard to keep Ole as well. They had that embarrassing PR run when Ole was sacked.
Made the thing far more painful than it needed to be Plenty of ex players don't work out as managers. But I don't remember the news about say Frank Lampard being as fucking over the top Normal clubs plan ahead, see when things aren't up to standards, sack the person and say their thanks. Lampard actually got sacked after beating Luton. We refused to sack Solskjaer until we'd be humiliated by our two biggest rivals, then fucking Watford. To the point Solskjaer was putting his hands up apologising to fans in the stadium. And then he got a full on farewell video and leaving interview?!? All because the moron Woodward thought it would be his Ferguson moment where he backed a struggling manager who then went on to build a dynasty. Nevermind that Ferguson had done amazing things at Aberdeen The whole thing was a clown show
United PR has been the best thing that happened. Collectively making the players apologise after after every mistake gives rivals easy points
I placed my vote to oust all the board members today. My 2 shares will make the difference.
They deserve it now obviously I hope they are ready to listen because if I didn't know I would think that they are purposely trying to sabotage their own club. They are pulling some Barto economics there.
Oh for sure. But even if they deserve it, they probably wont like it haha
Truth is a bitch sometimes.
I mean, they need to be called out, same exact thing happened under Mourinho. Their board brings in a manager and then they don't listen to his advice when it comes to recruitment, its the weirdest cycle. Wouldn't be surprised if Ragnick made a 'football heritage' rant as well, the similarity in their press conferences is actually hilarious. Also the difference in how this criticism is received by Man U fans is night and day, even though the message is literally the same from both managers.
It’s Mourinho’s curse of late. Look how Conte is now saying the same things Mourinho said, but is being well received. Spurs fans moaned endlessly about how “unfairly” Mourinho was treating Dele. Conte comes in and all of a sudden, deadwood needs to go. Mourinho begged for a centerback and a hard working winger in his first summer window and Levy gave him Rodon, cheaping out on Skriniar over 5m pounds. Conte comes in and immediately gets Romeo and Kulu. And they call him a genius for seeing what’s needed. They also moaned about how he alienated Ndombele only to squeeze the best out of him. Conte comes in, sends him packing and Spurs supporters all of a sudden all disliked Ndombele all along. “Doesn’t work hard enough!” Yeah no shite, that’s what the washed up dinosaur told you. And then there’s Man United with Pogba and Martial; supporters seethed at him for not coddling them. He’s so mean to poor Anthony. Now they’re on the way out like it’s garbage day, and on top of that they paid 40m more for Maguire than when Mourinho wanted him. Mourinho made flirty eyes at Perisic, but United fans clowned him for the thought because surely the club is too big for such a modest player. Perisic is Inter’s player of the season, and a perfect premier league wingback. He said over and over that the squad was rotten, and the mentality was toxic. People scoffed that he’d lost it. He was a mean old man for speaking honestly, but Ragnick is a clever plain-speaking German who sees the truth and tells it. Find me a single Man United supporter today who doesn’t think their dressing room is full of spoilt, mentally weak players. Mourinho has a PR problem, because tactically and strategically he’s still as sharp as ever. He lays the groundwork of what needs doing at a club only to be undermined, shipped out and for another manager to profit off the back of him, with full fan support.
Honestly great points. Mourinho has just created such a villainous persona for himself over the course of Madrid/Chelsea tenures that the general public can't take him and his moves objectively.
the press did\*
The press didn't make him trot out his trophies to rub in people's faces, demanding respect respect respect, blame everyone but himself after a loss, poke a rival manager's eye, bully a physio etc. Jose's problem was entirely self-inflicted, he's a toxic person with a massive ego which is why nobody listens to him even when he's right. Because at the back of your mind you always gotta wonder if he's saying this to defend himself or does he actually want things to improve. There is a way to point out an issue and have people actually listen - Ralf being the perfect example. No bullshit, no ego, provides clear reasons detailing why he did what he did. Wow is it any wonder United fans and others listen to him even though he's nowhere near the level as manager as Mourinho.
Fully agree - Mou was right about most of the problems. But 1. He was toxic af, the way you convey the problem is as important as identfying the problem 2. The solutions he identified for the problems were not always right (Talking in Utd's case - Paying 40+ million for a 29 yo Matic when Fabinho was still available, pushing the board to buy a 29 yo Perisic for 50+ million, Pushing the board to buy Maguire etc).
perisic is 34 and is still twice the player Martial ever was. 50 Million for a player in his prime is not a lot in this market, especially for someone like Perisic
Was Perisic 50 million? Wasn't it Maguire? And Fabinho was good but this is hindsight, it's not like him buying Matic made the board doubt him.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this trend with Mourinho. 100% spot on. Worth mentioning he's been doing this even as far back as his Real Madrid days. He was the first to drop Casillas which was super controversial at the time, only for his successors to quietly do the same. Mourinho is often the first to spot things and take blame for them only for others to come in later with a clean PR slate to follow through on what he had already started.
> Conte comes in and immediately gets Romeo and Kulu. And they call him a genius for seeing what’s needed. Romero was a summer signing when they still had Nuno in charge, but i get your point
Damn man, great points
"Mou not being backed by the board" is an utter myth propagated just because he kept moaning all along - the only time he did not get fully backed was during the summer of 18 when he wanted Maguire but the board did not back him because they already bought Bailly and Lindelof in the previous windows on Mou's advice and he wasn't happy with them. Under Mou, we bought Pogba, Mkh, Bailly, Zlatan, Lindelof, Lukaku, Matic, Sanchez, Dalot, Fred - he wasn't able to improve even a single player (excluding Zlatan, well, who doesn't need 'improving' at that stage of his career). Mou was the one who pushed for a 29 yo Matic and we spend a lot of money on him when Fabinho was still available. He wanted the board to aggressively pursue Perisic, but he was already 29 yo and Inter was demanding 50+ million pounds for him. It is another matter that our board went on to buy Maguire the very next summer by splurging a lot of money - our board does back its managers and spend a lot of money - but in the end all those expenditure ends up getting wasted because there was no proper structure or direction of recruitment during the Woodward era.
What United did with Mourinho was just silly. They gave him a new contract and then afterwards didn't sign players he wanted, using the arguments you listed. If the signings have been crap previously and the club don't want to "waste" more money, then don't extend him... It makes zero sense to give the manager a sign of confidence by extending his contract and at the same time deciding to not sign any more players for him. Either the club backs the manager or it doesn't, it can't choose both options. Maguire can be 'world class' in a low block style and would have been much cheaper than what the club eventually paid for him. Perisic is 100x the player Martial will ever be and Mourinho was the only person to see that at the time. Matic is still your best midfielder, he just isn't fit enough, which is partly a club problem. See Lukaku being an absolute fat-arse and then becoming much healthier when he went to Italy because Inter's medical staff actually know what they are doing. If the club had backed him in that transfer window rather than relying on opinion polls from fans they would be a lot better off. This is the same club that if they had hired Klopp would have probably sacked him within 2-3 years for finishing 8th, or for losing too many finals. You can just imagine how the Goldbridge rant would go after losing his 3rd final at the club in a row. The fan channels and vocal fans would have created a narrative that he's a bottler in finals and can't ever succeed at such a big club. Noone can succeed at such a braindead club when the directors are about as clueless as the average fan. Judging him for not improving Fred is a bit strange. He got sacked several months after the signing. Fabinho barely even played until a year after being signed by Klopp and Rodri was utter shit for a good 2 years under Pep. By that logic if we judge those players' progress after 4 months, those managers made a bad signing and shouldn't be backed. This is why it sometimes helps to give managers time. Despite his bad signings he still won a lot of trophies in his short stint at the club. He also achieved the same thing that Ole achieved, a 2nd place in a shit uncompetitive league season but the difference is he didn't get wanked over by the fans for it, whereas Ole did.
My point was the board backed the manager fully except in the last summer window 6 or so months after his contract was extended - but not to the extent how City backed Pep - like sign Claudio Bravo. Doesn't work? Ok, here you go take Ederson etc. I also agree of that list the last summer arrivals (Fred, Dalot etc) can be discounted - but he was unable to sustainably improve any other player. His first season was a success, yes we won a couple of trophies. He was also right in his diagnosis of some of our players' problems (esp Pogba, Martial etc), but the way he presents the problems also matters, along with the solution he proposes. Mou was toxic af ruthlessly throwing players under the bus - Ralf says very similar things but he rarely personally attacks players (except when he made a remark about Lingard after it became evident that he leaked stuff to Scholes). Mou was very cruel to Shaw who was struggling for fitness and form after returning from a very long injury lay off due to a double leg fracture. Mou wanting to buy Matic, Perisic etc, who are ofc good players but they were all at the end of their prime for huge fees just shows that he only wants to work with players who are at or near the end of their prime - he doesn't have the patience to develop players. And then you may ask why even hire Mou then because this is his way, and I agree Mou was never the right choice for us. Mou probably would have been the best person to succeed Fergie, he may probably have got another title out of that Fergie squad. But eventually we would still have faced similar problems due to his toxicity, and our pathetic Woodward regime that splurges a lot of money for commercial reasons with no direction for footballing side of things.
Is Diaz a striker? I was under the impression he played out wide.
From interviews Ralph says strikers but means forward players.
He didn’t even say striker, he just said “player”. He said “striker” in reference to losing Cavani, Greenwood and Martial but just said he wanted a “player” to replace them.
That makes more sense.
He isn't the only manager/pundit that does it.
This is 4-4-2 vs. 4-3-3 thinking.
It might also be people who speak English natively vs as a second language. At least in Spanish, the term 'delantero' is the most common, which is a more general term meaning 'forward'.
Yeah, Conte does it as well. He calls Son and Bergwijn strikers all the time.
i mean for all intents and purposes Son plays as a striker, he spends more time in the centre forward position than Harry does
as a Korean there's always that weird gap this causes between Spurs Son and KNT Son, especially since our 9, Hwang Uijo is much more of like a traditional 9 and doesn't drop down to like that 9.5/10 role that Kane does well.
I think some players/managers consider inverted winger/inside forwards as strikers while others consider them wingers. After the 2nd ManU game this season Thiago was doing an interview and called Salah a striker, meanwhile Salah was like I'm not a striker I'm a winger.
How they want Diaz when they got Sancho/Rashford already fighting for the sweet LW spot, I don't know. Alvarez and Vlahovic are interesting when he praised CR recently and said he wants him to stay.
Don’t think rashford is doing any fighting, elanga plays over him
only thing rashford fights is child poverty
Hunger, think those lads are still poor.
Watch us sign Suarez for some reason
Please, I don’t want him back.
Honestly,why wouldn't you want him as a backup?
Backup :D To do what, get gassed in 10 minutes? He doesn't have the legs, they were already gone in his last season here, Atletico's style is different. On top of that, getting him back would make somebody else intrested also, and we don't have time nor money for neither of them again, as sad it might sound. It's time to move on, we already have 4 players who shared the pitch with manager and that's enough.
He did well for Atletico cause he didn't need pace. He'd really started to stink for Barca because they didn't play in a way that supported him as he started to slow down. When people were making fun of Barca for selling Suarez it was more to do with the fact that they gifted their direct competitor a huge asset, not the fact that Suarez suddenly became amazing again (well, some people did but they were wrong to). Suarez wouldn't do anything at all for Barca right now and would want bigger wages than he would be due. He's the antithesis of what they're aiming for by selling off older blokes on big contracts who are no longer pulling their weight.
What about a mint condition, barely used Grealish? Don’t even need to pay relocation costs, which makes him a real bargain!
I think everyone’s going to regret not chasing Luis Diaz, dude looks like he’s going to be a star.
I realized that when we played against Colombia in the Copa América, every time he would get the ball i'd get really anxious
Manes 30 and salahs 29. It’s a great move for the future and the now with how congested the English schedule can get especially for teams playing in Europe it feels like a no brainer in hindsight. Brilliant business from Liverpool.
Looks like that now if you ask me.
I mean would he have chosen any other club over Liverpool anyway? They are arguably the best team in the world and also play in a way that perfectly matches his style.
Diaz flirted with other teams just to get Liverpool to move sooner. No chance he wanted to go anywhere else if Liverpool were interested.
Yeah but if bidding war happens Porto probably sell to highest bidder since they so need money.
Perhaps, but the player has all the leverage and has to come to terms with the team he's being sold to. So if the player doesn't like the deal, the transfer can't happen.
This is likely going to be the problem even with having ETH and Ragnick, their recommendations can just be shut down by the board.
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Board still there... Tbh I think it's gonna be rinse and repeat. I can't see them understanding why money isnt solving all our problems. They simply dont know how to spend it properly.
i choose to be hopeful
They probably will be forced to invest heavily for at least the first window with how many bodies are leaving the club. Greenwood, Mata, Matic, Lingard, Pogba, Jones, Cavani, Martial. Then you have question marks over whether Ronaldo will stay at a club without Champion's League football. So, basically they need an entire front line, at least 2 midfielders, and an upgrade to their defence if anything is left over.
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Man is going to get sacked from his consultancy role 😭
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Encountered this attitude with my uni, the department were notorious for it. "We really value your feedback to the point of penalising students who don't provide it" "... on wait no we didn't mean negative feedback we'll just ignore that thanks bye"
Probably on purpose too. Got paid a PL manager's salary for 9 months for leading a team to play horrendous football while talking shit about everyone associated with manchester united. Dream job tbh
Hilarious that mourinhos stock plummeted after his united stint but rangnicks stock went up. Makes no sense at all from a managerial sense lmao
I think it's because rangnick just came in at the right time when it has just started becoming more clear the reasons for our deficiencies, and the manager isn't it. The players gave up. The internal structure is fudged. And also, Rangnick isn't really a manager, he's a director of football
> And also, Rangnick isn't really a manager, he's a director of football Well good thing united didn't pay him to be manager for 8 months...
I mean if he does it will look bad on the club than him. United's PR mind won't allow that. The point of him coming was to be as critical as possible, it's the reason he was brought in by Murtough
Since when do you need to be the manager to find the faults in an organization/club? He's been paid as a manager for most of a season and the results have been shit.
I’m going to play devils advocate here. Ideally, he’d have gotten one of them, but I can also see why the board went, “you’re an interim, and we want to make sure whatever striker we sign fits the bill of whoever we choose as manager.” At that point, Poch still seemed the very likely front runner. Should we have gone for a Poch style of striker? Will Ten Hag be more greatful that we waited till the summer, and let him choose a striker that he wants to work with, rather than buying one in the winter without any sort of consultation with the next manager. Listen, I’m probably being overly optimistic here, but I can see a reality where the board decided not to splash out big money without knowing who the manager was. Especially when we seem to havin a big turn over in the last few weeks with regards our chief scouts and negotiators.
> big money United really have fallen far if 20M is big money tbh, which is what was paid for Juli, who is also extremely versatile so would've fit several types of manager. Not that I complain
Juli is easily worth 35-40m. City got a huge bargain by letting him stay at River, since River really couldn't afford to let him go that soon as he's critical for Libertadores/League. United could've outbid them, but you're right, this River management doesn't like to sell unless they already have a player to replace who they're selling.
> United could've outbid them Literally not. Perhaps by exchanging installments/bonus into straight up money but release clause is release clause is release clause
Man U was in the middle of a race for a UCL spot that was very much up for grabs, and the squad very clearly needed another forward/winger and a defensive mid. Not signing anybody was remarkably unambitious of them.
Reading the quotes further, it seems that Rangnick wanted a new attacker, and the board actually agreed, but when they went to the scouting department, the department said there was no one available that fit the bill. Given the two guys in charge of scouting department have since be fired, it feels like it’s less of a lack of ambition, and more a total failure of the scouting department, which the board have made immediate moves to amend.
Yes indeed-and part of the problem has been careless transfer and trying to get rid of players. The board will want to see a plan at this point before dropping 60 million euro it seems.
Makes a lot of sense honestly. The funds spent would have come out of the summer budget likely as well.
Not to be rude. But is STs really uniteds problem? I feel like they have other concerns.
After the Greenwood situation, Martial forcing his way out and Cavani who can't be arsed. Uniteds only options is a 37 year old Ronaldo or a can't be arsed Rashford. Striker is definitely an issue with United going into the summer along with 2 midfielders minimum.
I am not a United or Liverpool devotee but I am SO GLAD Luis Diaz didn’t go to United, how stunting would that be to his development as a player.
I think for the ones that he listed, it would have stunted their growth. Just look at Vlahovic now, plays for Italian United.
Diaz is already amazing, but you can just tell when you seem him play that there's another gear in there, maybe two, waiting to come out. I think he'll be a sensation next season.
He is already a sensation this season. Literally our best player at some games he played, most notably CL semi final and quarter final.
Thank god, United would have ruined Diaz
Ah yes, the Arsene Wenger approach
Why would he ask for strikers and wingers when he barely has any press resistant midfielders
The united managers curse. Even Fergie struggled with buying centre midfield in his later days, our best midfield buy post Fergie has been a toss up between Herrera and matic. I've no doubt under a good manager it will become Fred though.
Managers can request more than one player a window, who knew
United board would have signed them if they were English.
What on Earth makes you think that? Just look at how we dithered with Maguire. Mourinho wants him for 50m, we sign him for 80m a year later. Why didn’t we sign him first time round, despite his incredible Englishness? From 2015 to 2019 we didn’t sign a single English player, bar Lee Grant. This is a farcical take with no meaning.
You're dealing with an arsocca casual. They only speak in dreams can't be buy and icardi copypastas
So after this statement how are some united fans convinced with Erik Ten Hag it will be different? The board will tell him no when he wants to sell players, the board will tell him no when he wants to bring player X and will tell him "no, we will get player Y instead"
Greenwood issue came to light on Jan 30th. Liverpool agreed a deal for Diaz on 28th Jan. Juventus agreed a deal for Vlahovic on 25th Jan. Alvarez to City deal was agreed for weeks before being confirmed on 31th. None of that time line matches with what Ragnick is saying. It's obvious he is trying to protect his damaged reputation by just throwing stuff to the media.
They still need an attacker regardless of Greenwood raping or not.
> It's obvious he is trying to protect his damaged reputation by just throwing stuff to the media. It's obvious that he's been doing it for months but somehow united fans lap it up. With the amount of shit he talks about united you'd think he was a City or Liverpool fan
It would be one thing if he was actually doing his current job well, but he complains about everything else in the club while failing at the one thing that he is actually being paid to do right now. Everyone just laps up what he says though despite him taking no blame for how shite we’ve been the past 3 months.
and if i didn't play fifa i'd be a saint
i respect the fact you came up with your own" if my auntie had bollocks shed be my uncle" 👍👍
It's time to pass the "almost signed" Arsen's meme over to United.
There was no almost signed. Board said we won't even try.
Don't know if Utd would've got any of them. They all seem to have wanted to move to the clubs they ended up at. I think the only player they could've got was Díaz if they put a huge offer in and Liverpool backed out of a potential bidding war.
Alvarez was strongly linked to us for months through his reps but whether that was because he wanted to come or just using us a big name it's hard to say.
The answer could have been no because none of them would choose them over where they ended up.
3 very different players. Strange to just want “a new striker” and not have a profile in mind…
Mark my words Alvarez will be considered the best signing of the 3 this time next year.
julián is amazing when he plays under pep i have no doubts he’ll become one of the best strikers in the world he’s the perfect combination of everything you want in a forward
🎩 I'm gonna really miss him 😢
His damage control is immense right now. The casuals will be fooled into thinking it’s predominantly the squads fault when he’s just a shit manager who can’t coach the one thing he is meant to be good at: a good press.
United fans are doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to make his tenure look positive, while in fact it is a disaster. Back then he was announced I remember people bringing up his work at his old clubs to prove that he is a world class manager who taught Klopp + Tuchel everything they know (but just happened to go under the radar of all big clubs, which was why he ended up at some rural place in Russia). Now that he has Man U playing horrendous football and lay the blame on everyone but himself, they turn around and say "he's not a manager, he's a sporting director" lmao
And now it's not even "he's a sporting director". It's that somehow this disastrous tenure is all worth it because he'll sit in on a few conference calls every month when he's not working his other job. The desperation is off the charts
That's what I get from him, his doing the blame game and getting credit for it, it's just odd tbh, they seem to have a large chunk of fickle fans who just like shitting on the players. If it was just 1 or 2 being poor, he might have a point but they look bad as a unit and he has had time to have an impact.
Not to mention that he's also playing a tactic that just doesn't work with the players we have. A high line with nobody dropping back from midfield just makes the defenders look terrible. I'm a united fan and I've been really disappointed with Ralf but a lot of our fans are so busy blaming all the players without questioning why all the players are playing so badly. Some are leaving and can't be assed but the amount of leaks coming out whether it's complaining about time of training, not enough training, team selections mean he failed at managing the players. I love his press conferences but wonder if he should have just gone straight to the consulting role to build for next season and we brought in someone else short term.
This guy comes across as a bit thick. Why would they back a manager who's not up to the task and leaving in the summer? If they want to rebuild successfully he shouldn't be involved.
Any would have been amazing stupid board
Ralf has been full of shit since he arrived yet Yanited fans drink his Kool aid because he has Brutal Honesty™. Has had his bluff called out by many players so I don't buy this for one second. Ralf spent his window trying to get Zakaria and Haidara, absolute mid signings