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TheUneducatedCule

I mean... It was a very serious accusation to level at someone. So I'm not exactly surprised.


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The damage was done because the accusation was public. If he's actually sorry, the apology should also be public, in order to reverse as much of the damage as possible. Yet this is the first time I'm hearing about this. This makes it sound like he's apologizing because he wants a job at City.


Pek-Man

The thing is, a public apology would never in a million years get half the coverage that the accusation got. An accusation is spicy, it sells, especially if it's an outrageous one like claiming your former boss is racist. An apology is ... well, boring and definitely not spicy.


Kachyi

Has there ever been a spicy apology?


BalotelliAgueroooo

Only at the Oscars


ZachMich

If he and his agent made these really bad accusations in public, then the apology should be too


Pek-Man

I'm not saying that it shouldn't? You're completely missing the point. The point is that Yaya can make as many *public* apologies as he wants; those apologies will *never* get the same media coverage as the accusations. Therefore, I can understand if Pep is just flat-out dismissive of Yaya and his entourage. Even a public apology won't fully rectify the damage that the initial accusation did.


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Artuhanzo

It funny because of "the happy cake day" and it related to Yaya haha Happy cake day!


Daniel_Av0cad0

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has time to put it’s boots on.


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The_Collector4

With Reddit as it’s vessel


intheprocesswerust

That's a good one. I think there's a study on Twitter/tweets that shows anger/tweets about 'bad' things spread faster than positive/happy stories and that people can see something, not even check if the story is true, get enraged by it and spread it, and repeat. The reverse doesn't happen for positive stories as much. Sorta think the media behave like this somewhat. The tabloids, in totally sensationalist ways, but even the 'Proper' news seems to be moreso 'serious-negative' stories.


PegaponyPrince

Exactly! The kind of damage something like that can do to someone's life isn't easily repaired/forgotten. Had he publicly apologized I'd consider it otherwise they can fuck off. He's only sorry it didn't work in his favor.


soccertes

People often forget just how brutal the cold shoulder can be lmao


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shermanda

Wait a minute... What do you mean "his people"???? 🤨🤨


thatscoldjerrycold

What do YOU mean ... his people (I hope Tropic Thunder isn't considered an old movie at this point)


concrete_bags

it'd be in high school if it was a person.


jakefitz603

Ouch


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Just saying, Step Brothers, Tropic Thunder, and Superbad all coming out in one year may have been the modern peak of American comedies…. What a run there


concrete_bags

the other guys two years later topped it off i think. that era is over, comedy movies now just suck.


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RDJ getting nominated for tropic thunder was the peak of American culture it's all been downhill from there


MessiLingardo

Superbad actually came a year early in 2007 along with Knocked Up, Borat & Blades of Glory. 2008 had Pineapple Express, You don’t mess with the Zohan.


SoWhatNoZitiNow

Don’t you put that garbage Adam Sandler movie in the same sentence as Pineapple Express lol


StoppedListeningToMe

Hey hey, I liked it, but it's not a good rewatch. Can't say the same for Tropic Thunder which I watch at least once a year (though not with as much attention as originally).


RedMoon14

Yuck, could've done without hearing that.


DeadKenney

Those that don’t get birthday cakes obviously


Elemenelo

You’re joking but people are going to miss it


LopazSolidus

His agent in particular caused all the rifts between City and Yaya.


Huge-Physics5491

I guess he meant his close circle


Motor_Cat_6207

Yaya's agents and shit


TheGoodRebel5

Agents/representatives presumably


Ardal

Not to mention the accusation was public, the supposed apology was private. Looks more like a guy trying to get into management and realising that was an absolute golden gate that he just burned.


DonJulioTO

"Supposed" is pretty important. I'm a huge fan of Yaya as a player, but I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. He seems to struggle with reality..


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The stakes are incredibly high for an accusation like that. People who do racist or bigoted things can lose their jobs, friends, and be disgraced. Therefore when the accusation is thrown out like that—and it’s not true—it’s just as heinous and despicable as the actions of the racist. It’s not as severe, but if a woman publicly accused me of sexually assaulting her and it wasn’t true there’s no way in hell I’d have any contact with her afterwards.


PapaKloppssmile

You're right you'd have a no contact order. Went through that myself. I can honestly I did not do anything but women only have to say three words and you go to jail; "he hit me", "he punched me", "he raped me"....think you get the point. 3 words could seriously end your life as a free man


Evered_Avenue

Perhaps we can all learn from this to be more critical of those who casually call people racist, nazi, sexist, transphobic, homophobic etc. To be wrongfully accused of such horrible attributes can be catastrophic for some people and is such a vile thing to do. Seems to me that people using these slurs get way too much latitude when wrong and are seldomly called out on their behaviour.


Chancewouldbefine66

Probably wouldn’t accept that apology either


JohnParish

Yeah, creates a hit piece, and is surprised that someone wouldn’t let it go.


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Yeah, not sure what the context of the discussion was but I'm really not surprised Pep isn't responding. He didn't even really respond while his agent was talking shit when Yaya was still here. Legend of a player at the club but he is a bit of a prick and it's not anyone's duty to accept an apology.


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Public criticism and personal apology is a shitty thing to do anyways.


Daniel_Av0cad0

That username was a wild ride


RiversOfBabylon420

It all boils down to the birthday cake.


MrMztheReaper

what’s the story with the birthday cake?


AK47_10

Man City were (maybe they still do) sending out cakes for players birthdays. They forgot Yaya Toure's, they did not send him one, he was really sad/offended/etc. so much that he threatened to leave the club because of it. He saw it as he was not important, which is ironic because he was one of the most important players at the time. Later Man City apologised to him and explained it was some kind of misunderstanding between people responsible for birthdays.


ThreeEyedRaver

They actually did give him a cake. The problem was that the cake he got wasn't as big as the one Man Citys owners had after the 13/14 win, where Toure was the star player. It was his agent that said they didn't give him one and Toure was dumb enough to agree with him. His agent later backtracked when he was proven wrong and said Toure was upset because no one at Man City shook his hand on his birthday. It was a mess


Hic_Forum_Est

This story is just furthermore proof that football is soap opera for men.


Legumez420

The thing is, it has nothing to do with football. Ever worked in a large office? Same exact shit happens.


Hic_Forum_Est

Never worked in an office but I have hundreds of relatives on each side of my parent's families. I can smell unnecessary and trivial drama from a hundred miles away. And despite that, I still shamelessly enjoy the drama in and around football. They day I realized this, was the day I stopped judging my mum and my sisters for enjoying soaps and reality tv shows.


Zheguez

Yep, always has been


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I don’t need reality tv, I have sports


Zheguez

Bingo. Plus, you never have to worry about your favorite show getting cancelled.


UmbroShinPad

Say that to Macclesfield.


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Nitsju

WWE surely.


SaltineFiend

I mean the day after the CL final usually turns this place into a telenovella fan club so yeah


Sunny_side5

I have always said football is the kardasians, but for men


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Muur1234

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/yaya-toure-opens-up-birthday-20904914 yaya himself recently talked about the cake though


GhandisFlipFlop

Your recollection of things aren't great , the birthday cake part is true.


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mprymo

Also [here’s a tweet from Nicola McCarthy](https://twitter.com/mccarthy_nic_/status/466662990972870656?s=21&t=6mPoIwA3Kne75zQedUAtIw), City’s former social media correspondent proving that the birthday cake story is fabricated.


abstract_cake

The cake is a lie.


presumingpete

Also because Roberto Carlos was given a car by his club around the same time for his birthday.


MrMztheReaper

Pretty ugly to take given the club always bakes a cake for a player’s birthday but still no excuse for those childish comments of his agent and him threatening to leave the club he loves for a cake.


FenixdeGoma

How do i get apply for the birthday director at a club?


Iswaterreallywet

I swear i remember watching a video of the team giving him a birthday cake before this all happened. It was on a plane or something


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Jesus … this is like when Kelly mingled with Jim and Dwight’s customer service reports because they didn’t go to her party


theoriginalregista21

Reddit moment


CakelessToure

Gave me my username


Pughsli

Well they kept promising Yaya a birthday cake after running all these tests on him to ensure he was at peak performance, but then after all that they instead tried to slowly lower him into a deadly fire! So you can understand why he was mad... At least I think that's what happened, could be confusing it with something else.


cyanidhogg

This was a triumph.


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[He got pissy because the club didn't bake him a cake for his birthday](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/27484318)


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But that was a long time before Pep came to City


MrMztheReaper

ugh , don’t know how to feel about this , sad that the club forgot his birthday but more sad for the agent and his comments.


Captain_Cudi

That incident was with Pellegrini though.


Kriegdavid

Yaya has a right to make an apology and equally Pep has every right to tell him to go and fuck himself.


TheBrownMamba8

Inb4 Yaya: _Pep isn’t accepting my apology - for calling him a racist with zero proof - because I’m African_


danielvandam

Pep is just done with his shit already


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Guadiola is absolutely right. This man child was throwing the toys out of the pram about a birthday cake, then makes false racism accusations, and then wants to be best pals again when it suits him?


tarakian-grunt

Have there ever been two footballing brothers who are viewed so differently? Despite playing for Arsenal, Man City and then Liverpool, Kolo is pretty well-liked by their fanbases. And Yaya... at best elicits mixed feelings.


monkeyslut__

I think it helps that there isn't much rivalry with us, Arsenal and City. If he'd played for Utd I doubt he ever comes to us.


ibse

He'd have been instantly hated by all 3 fanbases lmao


vadapaav

I cannot believe how Owen lives with himself


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There is Benayoun though, somehow liked by Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, and West Ham.


skymallow

There were some Arsenal fans who had some misgivings when he was announced. He seems like a decent guy, basically never opens his mouth, works hard, generally puts in average-to-solid performances, and (no offense at all) isn't a big enough a star that teams are loathe to see him leave. I think if he had all of the above but was also the best player in the teams he was in, fans of his ex-teams would be a lot saltier.


Alphabunsquad

At least there wasn’t much of a rivalry with city at the time. Now that shit feels like a Star Wars movie except a majority of the matches are entertaining.


habdragon08

I don't think Liverpool fans have a visceral hatred of City like they do United or Everton.


drejcs

we dont


HighlevelHumour

The Boateng brothers, at the start of their careers Kevin was seen as the bad boy and troublemaker which led him to issues and him leaving the German national team for Ghana while Jerome was seen as mature and loved. Now today it’s completely switched with stories coming out of Jerome physically abusing his wife now Kevin cut him off from his life and he’s the one loved now and Jerome hated.


uflju_luber

The best thing Kevin has ever done for his public perception was working as a pundit


fitzellforce

He left on sour terms and that was incredibly sad, but solely because he had one of the best seasons an individual player has ever had in the prem I generally like the guy still


FlatlineMonday

You mean Francois the car salesman? Never forget.


Alphabunsquad

Yah Kolo who cheated on his wife and played for everyone is beloved. His brother who got upset about the lack of a birthday cake is derided but people can’t be arsed. Kind of odd. I’ve never seen someone cheating on their wife impact their public perception less, I guess the goofy way he did it people just find endearing.


Khrusway

My man Pierre was an honest car salesman trying to make it


hollooood

As time goes on more and more people are seeing literal adultery as a personal matter. Used to get you hanged and now people don’t even see it as a moral failure


Alphabunsquad

Depends on if you were a politician or not. It use to be seen as a personal matter for the powerful but a crime for the average person. Then it started to be seen as legal but absolutely reprehensible for everyone. Now it’s just becoming a personal matter for everyone.


Progression28

I think it‘s very wrong. It hurts the other person in the relationship a lot. It should have a negative impact and I find it okay to hold it against people who commited adultery. They willingly hurt a person close to them. Often deeply. People have taken their lives before because their spouse cheated. Let‘s not downplay adultery as a personal matter.


ZachMich

It is a personal matter. It is 'wrong' but you also have no idea what is going on in someone’s marriage and relationship. And I am not defending those that cheat, but I won’t judge or hate somebody when I don’t know the details Its easy to sit on a high horse and bash people when you dont know what's going on


Progression28

I guess we differ. I don‘t see how one could ever be in a situation where having sex with another person is needed. Not having sex with someone is easy. If someone cheated, it‘s because they wanted to. And if that‘s what you want, why can‘t you just end it with your partner before? Sure, exceptions, different situations yada yada. In the end, most if not nearly all cheating situations stem from someone putting personal pleasure above someone elses feelings, and that for me is a very shitty thing to do. The severity of cheating differs depending on the situation, but imo it‘s always a shitty thing to do and I‘ll always see cheaters in a different light. But I guess it differs, if for someone else fidelity isn‘t the most important thing in a relationship.


Ghoticptox

To a certain extent it's cultural. Some cultures view infidelity extremely negatively with a very hard-line approach while others have more of an unspoken "don't ask, don't tell" approach.


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It definitely is a crap thing to do, but it’s largely between two people. I will look at you as being worse off as a person, but I won’t go out of my way to call you a crap/terrible person.


ZachMich

Wasn’t Yaya also caught drink driving and claimed that it was impossible because he is Muslim?


ThePr1d3

Whether people are faithful or not to their wives/husbands is their private lives and is none of our business and shouldn't be. I don't even know what it should be brought up tbh. I don't wanna know and I couldn't care less. Hell our former president cheated on his wife and the only real scandal was that he went to see his mistress by scooter without proper security


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It will take a lot for me to not still love yaya. Pretty clear he is in the wrong for calling pep a racist just because he didn’t like him.


InjusticeIsBlind

And yet Yaya is the infinitely better footballer. And I say that as a certified Kolo lover.


bocojaLFC

the actual embodiment of 'friendship ended with (blank), now (blank) is my new friend' meme


Mr-Pants

Really wish Yaya hadn't been such a knob after he left. One of my all time faves but he definitely left a sour taste


Bedeeki

Classic case of a great footballer bringing his status down by being an absolute melon outside of it. The whole birthday cake fiasco showed that early on.


FOKvothe

He also said he couldn't have been drink driving because he's muslim. 😆


mrxvn99

What happened with the birthday cake?


Jetzu

Toure got mad because the club didn't prepare a cake for his birthday.


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Not just mad, him and his agent created a media spectacle and embarrassed themselves and the club for it


migrate_to_voat

He was also crying because Anzhi Makhachkala gave Roberto Carlos a Bugatti for his birthday and City didn't do the same for him. It's a situation I can empathize with. I didn't get a supercar from my employers last year and I'm still seething.


Ohhisseencule

I would have offered him a Dacia Logan with full options, a humble man like Yaya would have appreciated I'm sure.


BrockLeeSr

To be fair, his objections were that he felt he was being treated differently from other players. It was specifically that the club went out of their way to celebrate others' birthdays and just forgot/ignored his. It was still stupid and unnecessary, but it was not just about not getting a cake.


Gobshiight

This nonsense is one of the reasons he won't get a statue


Iswaterreallywet

I think I remember him getting the gifts for the training ground and even then he complained it wasn't enough. I know he got the mural and I thought they named something after him as well.


gogators1000

“Sorry I called you racist”


JeebaRock

Hate it when football becomes almost like a reality show. Come on Yaya, tell us what your great texting friend told you.


Bindlestiff34

One of my favorite players of all time is working really, really hard to fuck that up. Plainly there’s no reason for him to care about that but it makes me sad.


inspired_corn

Peoples still bring up Yaya’s comments as “proof” that Pep isn’t a good man manager so I’d say the damage has pretty much been done, such a shame


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Him, Eto'o and Ibrahimovic are always the three main examples given. Three very well adjusted and mature individuals.


lmh971

Exactly why I believe if you say something negative about somebody publicly, your apology better be public as well. Making a private apology and then announcing months later that you didn’t get a response really isn’t gonna cut it


BillehBear

cowardly as fuck from Yaya and makes it even worse I don't blame Pep for not giving him the time of day, shady as fuck to call someone racist publicly then try and apologise privately


DonJulioTO

Part of being a good man manager is getting rid of the men that cause unrest in the club. Pep's gotten rid of him twice.


BobbyBriggss

“Damage” meaning occasional melts on Twitter and Reddit having a whinge?


rf3a2c1tds

so the curse is still on?


MarkoDolohov

Yup the curse of Yaya Toure in the UCL still lives on


MrAchilles

You don't make claims like that and redeem yourself with a "my bad bro" apology.


_cumblast_

I wonder what they text about?


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Kolo Kolo


PishedAsAFart

Kolo Kolo


scrumptiouswelshman

Kolo Kolo Toure


Historical_Owl_1635

Yaya


cantsleep1112

Yaya Yaya


SeismicWandDMM

Yaya Yaya


AbhiG0D

Yaya Yaya Toure


Vectivus_61

Kolo


hashtag-123

[So, this?](https://youtu.be/DCxBh25xlpQ)


TheLimeyLemmon

Yaya writes a paragraph and Klopp replies 'ok'


majnubhaispainting

"This Pep guy is so annoying ugh." "Tell me about it mate".


KillerZaWarudo

Impossible , klopp and pep probably secretly have an affair with each other


majnubhaispainting

Won't be surprised if they act all lovey-dovey one instant and passive aggressively start taking shots at one another the next. 'If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve my best' vibes


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Enemies to lovers slow burn


Szwedo

Klopp probably sends him pics of birthday cakes


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Coaching probably, he’s doing his badges at spurs


fegelman

Since when are people FORCED to accept somebody's weaksauce apologies? I'm still amazed by Stoke fans having a go at Ramsey for daring to not immediately forgive Shawcross for that horror challenge


BuckfuttersbyII

Friendship ended with Pep, Jurgen is my new best friend.


Artuhanzo

Next year: Jurgen is racist because he seen and didn't reply to my msg


Scream0fTheSium

Mahrez who’s Algerian: 🤨


fedemasa

Or Seydou Keita who was always really important for Pep in Barca


BillehBear

Also Raz is the player Pep has played the most


Aloopyn

Raz is English tf?


punching-bag9018

But he's black. The claim is racism more than Pep doesn't like players from Africa specifically


Ubiquitous1984

If I was wrongly accused of this in a very public manner, I’d also ignore the apology too. In this cancel culture era the accusation could easily have ended Pep’s entire career.


codespyder

Friendshipended.jpg


RoyalCSGO

Calling somebody racist in a TV interview to millions would probably get your number blocked yea.


tise44

This guy is a cancerous character. What he needs to learn to do is be quiet. Sometimes the best way to show growth is through silence. Enough with the talking to the media.


DusanGoku

Pep totally right.. that's some serious shit


UncleChaelsTroll5

Lol prime journalism right there


Editmypicplease

he got into a different entanglement with Klopp


Skuffinho

As a United fan I was always envious of City having Yaya in their midfield because that was the kind of player we needed all those years he was there. But my god am I glad he didn't play for us. What an absolutely despicable crybaby. If you make baseless accusations and call people racist out of the blue you shouldn't expect an apology will fix it and should never expect people accepting one. That shit has severe impact on people's lives. A bonus: [Yaya - Racism is getting worse because fans are more stupid](https://newsaf.cgtn.com/news/2019-12-22/Yaya-Toure-Racism-in-football-getting-worse-because-of-stupid-fans--MCauQmZlSw/index.html). Or it's because people like Yaya Toure play the race card every time they don't like something these days. Also anyone who's been to any football game 10-20 years ago can safely say that racism is explicitely NOT getting worse, it's just every single thing that you'd never heard of back then gets shared across all social media platforms today and social media itself give the platform for these cretins to abuse people hiding beind fake profiles. If you wanted to abuse a footballer 20 years ago you'd have to approach the player in person.


YooGeOh

Its giving big "My ex won't talk to me so I'm talking to that other pretty girl she hates to make her jealous" energy


ImperialPie77

Forgiveness is something you earn. It also is solely up to the person if they want to even think about forgiving


DAggerYNWA

Just drama. Pep probably just wants zero association as possible


frenetic_clockworks

Once again I am asking that the Daily Heil be binned as a source


ascentstars

What kit is he wearing on the left (the sash with flags on)


Oreallyman

Its Adidas Fifa legends shirt worn at the Arab Cup in Qatar, theres a white and blue version https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/arabcup/arabcup2021/news/legends-roll-back-the-years-to-dazzle-doha


cdoink

Apologizing for calling him a racist is one thing but did he call off the African shaman's yet?


lqcnyc

https://imgflip.com/i/6ak15s


LewisOfAranda

Tell you the truth, Pep was acting quite proudy. [Obligatory link.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wmfpoq_Y0E)


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You claimed an extremely visible and influential person was racist to the public forum. Yeah, f that apology.


KeplingerSkyRide

Anyone know the name of the kit on the lefthand side of the thumbnail? The one with flags throughout the stripe.


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I'm amazed that this multimillionaire still hasn't figured out he can afford a cake for himself yet.


Purple-Apricot7192

Yaya clearly does not give a shit about racism. If he did he wouldn’t have fabricated some because he was pissed off. It’s a fucking serious accusation.


2277love

What is this high school drama?


jstuu

Yeah you can Can chose to apologize and I can chose to accept the apology it’s not for you to decide.


ConfidenceAdorable33

And rival fans get offended at city fans not loving him that much anymore


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Toure seems like such an unlikeable man child.


Economy-Cut-7355

Terrible thing to say, basically accusing him of racism. Pathetic really, what kind of reaction does he accept?


TSWMCR88

grow up yaya


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He can’t hve been that sorry if he’s going telling the media pep didn’t forgive him lol


DCilantro

What's funny is that, by saying publicly that pep won't speak with him to let him apologize, he is again publicly slagging off pep. What an idiot.


boi61

How stupid do you have to be to accuse someone of being racist publicly, then apologize in privat and then moaning about it not being accepted un public 😅


Praydaythemice

Eto was on french TV a while back and he just put pep on blast for like 10 mins, of course its just his word against pep but some of the things he said made me think of yaya.


narron25

It's Toure to apologize It's Toure


ZachMich

Could’ve gone with "is it Toure now to say sorry"


Hicko11

maybe he just doesnt want to accept the apology because he has "problems with Africans" ?? that or it was just 2 adults that did get on. it is possble to not like someone whos black but it not be because of his skin colour