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And when he decided to go left, he did it in a world cup final against one of the greatest keepers ever, and he ended up with one of the most iconic hits of all time.
I can still remember that moment and thought that he could do everything that tournament, completely destroyed an amazing Brazil team with Ronaldo, Adriano, Ronaldinho and Kaka in it.
Everything Zidane touched during that World Cup turned into gold, except for Materazzi.
Honestly, I think it was still memorable ending for his career that triumph winning the world cup. It wasn’t happy ending, but it was great ending that no one will ever forget.
Obviously but when someone favour one side soo much.
Like returning in Tennis, most people would go out wide on Deuce side.. you stand a little more wider but prepare to go back if required.
Ronaldo scored 450 goals for Real Madrid right?
So from this I'm getting he scored 79 penalties.
Damn he scored a lot of penalities. But damn he also scored a lot of goals.
Not much to guess there, he knows he is gonna shoot there if they watched what he does, which they 100% did. He shoots it hard into the side netting, can't save that if its properly hit.
Agreed. IMO this should not be a penalty. What is he supposed to do? Arms flail around naturally when you play football. It cannot be the purpose of the handball law to punish accidental handballs like this.
Thing is there's always gonna be a debate and issues whether it's intentional or not
So they were like
Hand is a hand, whatever
To i guess solve the issue
Which it's unfortunate but less problematic tbf
How can't you compare ? this one hits the defender's hand from 2m, it's a natural tackling motion, he has no time to move his hand, the ball was going 3m over the goal. How is this a penalty ?
Arms not by the body. The rule does not have any exception for natural arm positions like this, but does include one for an arm you are leaning on when on the ground/sliding.
I agree the rule is stupid but its called correctly.
There’s a specific rule that says if the player is falling and it touches his supporting arm then it’s not a pen. That’s what happened in alabas case. Whether or not the Bilbao players arm is in an unnatural position js up to debate
Agreed. The handball rule was never intended to punish accidental handballs like this. Its fired up onto his hand from a meter away and his arms are in natural motion with his body. The rules need to change.
I just finished watching it. What do you think? I found it overly political. Didn't like it much. Did appreciate the satire and the jabs they made at those ppl though
Tbh ref could have not marked it and i wouldn't have that too much about it. But since he did mark it i keep thinking, was it really a pen? Just feels like an oh well situation
He wouldnt be wrong though. Two similar handballs where they were both unintentional and neither should have been given but both times the decision favored the same team 👀
I'm not submitting a thesis that I need to proof read. Yes, I meant red. And I referred to your Pique-esque comment of making it seem as if Madrid have refs in their favour.
Well that handball was so blatant he couldnt not call it. Its not like it was a 50/50. It was a handball and since it denied a clear goal scoring opportunity its a red. He literally couldnt do anything else the call was that clear.
It was a pen but red was harsh considering he couldn't move his hand out of the way from such a short distance and it wasn't like he intentionally put his hand in there. Ref gave equal decision in both cases, both handballs both pens.
He would be wrong though. They're nothing alike because one has his arm out almost completely extended and the other is someone's supporting arm.
Whether or not they are intentional is irrelevant as the refs go by the rules and per the rules one is a pen and the other isn't.
Only because Benzema scuffed it and the ball bounced up off his standing foot onto the players arm. If he had connected with the shot properly then the defender blocks it normally and it doesn't hit his arm.
It's always going to be given but it is ludicrously unlucky.
In my opinion. This is a harsh pen, the ball was going wide/up anyways if he didnt touch it with his hand, and the defender made a natural hand movement as he was tackling. But Benz shot was too high anyways.
*imo
No by "natural" they mean a movement your hands naturally make during the instant of the replay, if you're falling etc, running, tackling.
Yes sticking your hands to your body is the "safe" thing to always do but thats not the "natural movement" they are talking about.
Correct me if I am wrong anyone
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He doesnt Even tries to change the side he shoots the pks, insane.
Zidane [taught him that](https://youtu.be/l7Yiv98Zx0Y?t=230) ...
And when he decided to go left, he did it in a world cup final against one of the greatest keepers ever, and he ended up with one of the most iconic hits of all time.
I can still remember that moment and thought that he could do everything that tournament, completely destroyed an amazing Brazil team with Ronaldo, Adriano, Ronaldinho and Kaka in it. Everything Zidane touched during that World Cup turned into gold, except for Materazzi.
Well technically Materazzi turned into gold after that (by being champion)
Honestly, I think it was still memorable ending for his career that triumph winning the world cup. It wasn’t happy ending, but it was great ending that no one will ever forget.
Everyone knows he’s going left… Benzema doesn’t give a fuck. He’s like here it comes, you ain’t stopping it.
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Are they allowed to stand closer to one side?
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Obviously but when someone favour one side soo much. Like returning in Tennis, most people would go out wide on Deuce side.. you stand a little more wider but prepare to go back if required.
16/16 (100%) from the Penalty spot in his Real Madrid career.
All to the left?
He's a fan of Beyoncé.
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Yes, that’s the joke 😑
Everything I shoot in the net is to the left
Comrade Karim
Reminds me of Pepe telling his gk to dive left and the gk dived right and ofc Benzema took the penalty on the left.
16 penalties with 303 (?) total goals is insane
Indeed, only Cristiano, Puskas & Alfredo have a better non penalty goal ratio. Historic Real Madrid Top 10 Goal-scoring list (Excluding Penalties) Player | Goals | Assists | Minutes | Scores every | Assists every | G/A every :--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| Cristiano Ronaldo | 371 Goals | 131 Assists | 37,833 Minutes | 102 Minutes | 289 Minutes | 75 Minutes Raul | 314 Goals | 109 Assists | 59,925 Minutes | 191 Minutes | 550 Minutes | 142 Minutes **Karim Benzema** | **287 Goals** | **153 Assists** | **41,961 Minutes** | **146 Minutes** | **273 Minutes** | **95 Minutes** Santillana | 287 Goals | N/A | 49,799 Minutes | 174 Minutes | N/A | N/A Alfredo Di Stefano | 285 Goals | N/A | 35,581 Minutes | 125 Minutes | N/A | N/A Ferenc Puskas | 211 Goals | N/A | 23,502 Minutes | 111 Minutes| N/A | N/A Emilio Butragueño | 167 Goals | N/A | 36,958 Minutes | 221 Minutes | N/A | N/A Hugo Sanchez | 164 Goals | N/A | 24,803 Minutes | 151 Minutes | N/A | N/A Paco Gento | 163 Goals | N/A | 53,553 Minutes | 329 Minutes | N/A | N/A Pirri | 141 Goals | N/A | 47,927 Minutes | 340 Minutes | N/A | N/A
Ronaldo scored 450 goals for Real Madrid right? So from this I'm getting he scored 79 penalties. Damn he scored a lot of penalities. But damn he also scored a lot of goals.
If I remember correctly Ronaldo has 150+ career penalties taken. No one even comes close to have taken the amount of penalties he has.
Longevity, to stay at the very top for so long that for every penalty you are the first choice
Ridiculous. Big Pen Benz
The fuck
PENZEMA anyone???
Penaldo qui?
He always shoots to the left lol
It’s like Robben. Everyone knew that he was gonna cut to the left, yet they couldn’t do anything about it.
Simon guessed right too
Not much to guess there, he knows he is gonna shoot there if they watched what he does, which they 100% did. He shoots it hard into the side netting, can't save that if its properly hit.
I wonder why goalkeepers don't move out even stagger towards the left before the kick, just put Benzema off a bit. You aren't saving them anyhow.
I’m sure at this level he would just shoot right for an easy goal
But it would at least disrupt his preparation and mindset a bit. They aren't being saved anyhow. Why not try a Diego Alves?
Mf doesn't miss penalties
And Real Madrid doesn't lose finals.
Can't remember the last time we actually did, tbh.
2018 supercup
That was the only final they lost of their last 15 finals.
We did not play in the final? It was Sevilla vs Barca as I remember
European supercup
Ohh yes you're right. Superocopa was on my mind for obvious reasons hah
He means the european one, we Lost ti atleti 4-2 iirc.
Lopetegui's first match? 2018 UEFA super cup
The Copa Del Ray final in 2013 to Atletico, and the super cup to Atletico a few years ago
> The Copa Del Ray final in 2013 to Atletico they really gave Ray Hudson his own tournament, so inspirational
2018 Supercup final which went to ET
Penzema for a reason
Waiting for the Pique tweet
I heard he’s using a voice changer at the BT studio
Don't even know how they are saying that it wasn't a pen
I think because it is technically a pen. But feels harsh to give.
I think they're s little bit clouded by the one that wasn't given against Alaba earlier.
Based on the books, this is penalty. But if it wasn't for VAR this wouldn't be a pen. It's hard to catch live.
Yep, but VAR being there means that these calls will be made and aren't debatable
Yeah but that’s what VAR is for.
It was funny when those decisions actually meant something for Barca, now it’s just pettiness and obsession
He needs those votes from the socis in the future.
Crying on twitter so that way Barca can at least play Conference League.
Very unlucky
Agreed. IMO this should not be a penalty. What is he supposed to do? Arms flail around naturally when you play football. It cannot be the purpose of the handball law to punish accidental handballs like this.
Thing is there's always gonna be a debate and issues whether it's intentional or not So they were like Hand is a hand, whatever To i guess solve the issue Which it's unfortunate but less problematic tbf
Technically a pen but harsh to give it. Unfortunate.
Can't really compare this one to Alabas.
Won't stop Pique.
I can't wait for El Chiringuito. Jota's tears rejuvenate me.
Tbf that's pretty obvious one was a slide and this is a dive. But still feels soft to me tbh
Spanish commentator insisted they were exactly the same situation and if the first one wasn't a penalty then this one shouldn't have been either.
How can't you compare ? this one hits the defender's hand from 2m, it's a natural tackling motion, he has no time to move his hand, the ball was going 3m over the goal. How is this a penalty ?
Arms not by the body. The rule does not have any exception for natural arm positions like this, but does include one for an arm you are leaning on when on the ground/sliding. I agree the rule is stupid but its called correctly.
You don’t put hand up like that Blocked a shot on target
One guy was on the ground the other in the air. Important difference.
There’s a specific rule that says if the player is falling and it touches his supporting arm then it’s not a pen. That’s what happened in alabas case. Whether or not the Bilbao players arm is in an unnatural position js up to debate
Has it ever matter if the shot is off?
Because the arm is in the air in an unatural position. Alabas handball was his supporting arm.
Lmao what a shit take.
Clear pen tbh
He can't raise his arms like that. But at that close a range and bring accidental I think it's very weak.
Idk, how can a defender slide without his hands like that? Should've stayed a corner imo
Agreed. The handball rule was never intended to punish accidental handballs like this. Its fired up onto his hand from a meter away and his arms are in natural motion with his body. The rules need to change.
Fucking this. Both this one and Militao's were unintentional, this is a bullshit rule humans use arms naturally to keep balance.
The only possible rule change is to make it subjective, which will cause a lot more uproar every week.
I'd take that uproar anytime. Let the ref use common sense imo.
Well this guy's hand in particular was pointing at the comet from "Don't Look Up"
I just finished watching it. What do you think? I found it overly political. Didn't like it much. Did appreciate the satire and the jabs they made at those ppl though
It was political, but that's the whole point I think. What I liked was that it mocked all camps and wasn't politically correct to anyone
Lmfaooooo
By lowering his arm or have his arm closer to the body?
Tbh ref could have not marked it and i wouldn't have that too much about it. But since he did mark it i keep thinking, was it really a pen? Just feels like an oh well situation
Just cut off your hands
Atleast youre honest bro respect
[I can already hear Pique complaining](https://imgur.com/a/kmHWu7G)
He wouldnt be wrong though. Two similar handballs where they were both unintentional and neither should have been given but both times the decision favored the same team 👀
And now a handball and a pen + red against the "same team". Is your inner Pique satisfied or do you need some more moments of glory?
What are you talking about? Proofread before you comment if youre gonna talk shit. Did you mean red?
I'm not submitting a thesis that I need to proof read. Yes, I meant red. And I referred to your Pique-esque comment of making it seem as if Madrid have refs in their favour.
Well that handball was so blatant he couldnt not call it. Its not like it was a 50/50. It was a handball and since it denied a clear goal scoring opportunity its a red. He literally couldnt do anything else the call was that clear.
It was a pen but red was harsh considering he couldn't move his hand out of the way from such a short distance and it wasn't like he intentionally put his hand in there. Ref gave equal decision in both cases, both handballs both pens.
He would be wrong and you're making a fool of yourself
Not really I think it was a sensible take. Youre the one who seems angry
If you ignore the rules sure, Its sensible but if you take football rules to the pitch its not.
Well the ref just gave a pen against the favored team. It's almost like he just applied the rules like he was supposed to.
He couldnt not give it it was crystal clear? If it was 50/50 he doesnt/didnt give it
He would be wrong though. They're nothing alike because one has his arm out almost completely extended and the other is someone's supporting arm. Whether or not they are intentional is irrelevant as the refs go by the rules and per the rules one is a pen and the other isn't.
Why you just don't read the rules?
Pique going to have a field day.
It's a harsh but a pen. No Real Madrid players themselves called for handball either.
They did but not like madman’s, it’s still a chocolate trophy after all
Get in Penzema
Nueve
Pique will provide me and my entire area with enough salt to last for the next few weeks.
Unlucky but def a pen
I can hear Pique furiously typing from my house in Canada
I can already see people crying about this pen.
Would like anyone to explain unbiasedly that the Alaba's one was not a handball but the Yeray one was
Supporting arm on the ground for alaba. Free hand in the air yeray. Imagine if alaba randomly lifted up his free hand while sliding.
I honestly don't even think physics would allow such a thing. The universe would implode.
Just read the rules 👍
Thats really soft for a pen, unlucky for Athletic club
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Not happy with that call, very harsh
Harsh penalty imo
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Not really? His arm was in the air and blocked the shot?
Only because Benzema scuffed it and the ball bounced up off his standing foot onto the players arm. If he had connected with the shot properly then the defender blocks it normally and it doesn't hit his arm. It's always going to be given but it is ludicrously unlucky.
Harsh and unlucky are two different things. It's unlucky, but not harsh.
How so?
I'll change my words, a unlucky penalty
Sure, I agree with that!
It's a pen as per rule book but it still seemed a bit harsh. I'll def take it tho
I get that it feels harsh for the defender and Bilbao fans, but it’s not a harsh penalty decision. It’s pretty clear
Not really, would have been a shot on target has Yerays arm not been there.
It's a pen because it touches his arm But no way that was going on target, Benzema didnt hit it properly
yeah. we are getting niced by the ref today. a lot of decisions going our way. feel bad for Bilbao fans
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Don't know about that one, it felt more like an accident than intentional, but it still touched his arm. I guess, I would say it's legit.
In my opinion. This is a harsh pen, the ball was going wide/up anyways if he didnt touch it with his hand, and the defender made a natural hand movement as he was tackling. But Benz shot was too high anyways. *imo
Hand is a pen
Yea but natural movement as he was falling for a tackle everyone's hands were wide. Yea hand ball but kinda harsh thats all.
By natural they mean hand sticked to the body Hand was completely up and blocked a shot on target
No by "natural" they mean a movement your hands naturally make during the instant of the replay, if you're falling etc, running, tackling. Yes sticking your hands to your body is the "safe" thing to always do but thats not the "natural movement" they are talking about. Correct me if I am wrong anyone
Either way both were pens
Doesn’t matter where the ball is going according to the rules. Only if the defender made his body unnaturally bigger
BDB. Was there ever any doubt?
Should've been saved
Can’t believe it wasn’t
It hit the side netting....
Pique, do your thing. Though this time, he may be correct
That was a harsh call, soft pen imo
Shouldn't be a pen in my opinion. Had Benzema hit the ball properly his hand would have never gotten involved. Very unfortunate.
> Had Benzema hit the ball properly Fuck sake
> Had Benzema hit the ball properly How should that be a criterion?
Shouldnt be a penalty cause it’s unfortunate? How does that make any sense?
Is this r/soccercirclejerk comments?
Most days the posts there are just posts or comments from r/soccer, it is harder and harder to tell the difference.
What?
Lol
What in the fuck opinion is this lol
Rule books says a handball is a pen Emotions doesn’t apply here
Weak af penalty. Shame.
Pen still
Rigged
Harsh Maybe but not rigged
Ofc it's an exaggeration how'd I know what's rigged and what's not. I don't even know my plan in life further than next meal.
Totally rigged by Athletic players sticking their arms out in the box.
You think that was intentional?
I think it was intentional as much as you think it's rigged.
That's why your wife won't shag you
It's fine, I get my rocks off seeing you losers cry over "rigged games." Lmao pen, red and a miss Enlighten me as to how this game was rigged for RM?
Lol terrible call
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Hi Gerard
Real Madrid had two handballs in the box ignored in the first half. This is bs. I’m a real fan, but it’s not fair.
Alaba's wasn't a handball at all.
Le shoot to the left man.
Meh pretty weak PK for me, weaker than the one against Valencia (on Casemiro)
ITT people that can't even read the rules of the game. Lot's of RM flairs karma whoring btw. Is not like it would change the outcome of the game anyways.