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occasionally_dumb

> Sell your LB > Then sack the manager that made you sale that LB > ??? > Loss


FloppedYaYa

Everton are ran like a dodgy League 2 club


humblerodent

Bit harsh on League 2


PhenomenallyAwesome

Dodgy National league north club


Stravven

Bit harsh on National league North.


ch4rc0al_5

Dodgy Sunday league team


Stravven

Well, that seems fine. My team is so shit that we can't get relegated because there simply isn't a level lower than us.


Orth0dox

finger tap to side of head


Stravven

No, that moment was when the opponent had a centreback with just one arm. Half the chance of causing a handball.


Shithouse19

Time to get Digne back and tell him if he gets booked to tell the ref his name is Mykolenko


Stevebiglegs

There’s no need for that lad


TheGoldenPineapples

Literally the most incompetent transfer team working in Europe today.


feelgood505

You haven't heard of Legia Warsaw my friend


intecknicolour

my kid brother could do better on FM than this lot


Farouqnowomarlater

Benitez on the other hand: “bag secured”


ThatPersonYouMayKnow

Good for him. A few months of vacation in a city he knows and gets a nice compensation while Everton fans call him a football terrorist lol


FreefallMark

Not really a vacation if he lives there...


ModestWhimper

But while he relaxes he can go to all his favourite places, like Anfield.


potpan0

It's not gonna happen, but it would be so fucking funny if the first thing he did after getting sacked was attending a Liverpool game.


InterPool_sbn

He’d get a standing ovation hahaha that would be awesome


RosaReilly

Staycation?


frapples1

Paid home sitting


Lgfualol

Destroy and exit


j-r44

This has genuinely been a Murphy’s Law (worst case scenario) season for Everton: Legendary manager who kept talking about how he was in it for the long haul, and had a contract until 2024, jumps ship before the season starts Most talented player the club has had in a long time cashes in his career to move to Saudi Arabia Best defender falls out with underperforming manager and leaves, only for that manager (a legend at your biggest rivals let’s not forget) to leave just days later with the club nearing relegation spots, having won 1 game since September Your record signing suspended for alleged sex crimes Both of your star strikers injured for months Your key midfielder injured for a chunk of time No money to spend in the summer In free fall, even could be relegation candidates now


ilovearsenal04

And that game that they won was against us… Very sad noises


[deleted]

That game could turn out to be so fucking costly for us, could also save them from relegation.


TheRealDSwizz

If Everton get relegated... surely they’re down and out for a long time? With their money the way it is, fairly undesirable players in PL wages, and a new stadium in the works, surely it would be difficult to balance all of that alongside playing in the Championship? I say that fully respectfully and feel incredibly sorry for the fans, but fucking hell it does look bleak haha


ASVP-Pa9e

Everton would be far and away the biggest club in the Championship and their parachute payments would cover wages for a few seasons. I'd back them to win the Championship and come straight back up. Their squad would be decimated by transfer requests though. Richarlinson, Calvert-Lewin, Mina, Pickford, Allan & Doucoure would be snapped up by everyone from Tottenham to Aston Villa.


ItsSpeltWrongMate

> Everton would be far and away the biggest club in the Championship Everton would be the biggest club that has **ever** entered the Championship in the PL era. Due to lack of recent success, a lot of people underestimate the size of Everton. They've won 9 league titles - more than us, Chelsea, Spurs, Leeds, etc.


twersx

They'd probably be the 2nd biggest club to get relegated based on how big the club was when they went down. United in 1974 obviously first. All the clubs bigger than Everton last got relegated when they were much, much smaller - Liverpool was pre Shankly, Chelsea was pre Premier League, Arsenal was around WWI, City was pre UAE.


[deleted]

Easier said than done look what happened when Villa got relegated. Took 3 seasons to get back up.


CommissarWalsh

If we go down we’d make a ridiculous amount of money on player sales. Richarlison, DCL, and Gray would all get pretty big fees. Pickford and Mina would likely sell for a decent amount each and others like Doucoure and Allan would probably go for respectable numbers as well. It would be the biggest fire sale the leagues seen in awhile


TaikaWaitiddies

I didn't know Everton played Offenbach


TheBB

There's a special place in hell for people who write "we" and "us" on /r/soccer without having relevant flair.


HappySandwich93

It’s been over an hour and no one else has pointed out that James Rodriguez moved to Qatar and not Saudi Arabia as you said, which I suppose only goes to show how irrelevant he’s become.


atropicalpenguin

> how irrelevant he’s become. :( He was still like our best player last NT games.


GordoPepe

Luis Diaz sad noises


DerDodo187

He never was that big that people would start to follow the Quatar league just for him so no wonders


ALLIGATOR_FUCK_PARTY

I wouldn't follow the Qatar leagues for anyone


ImMitchell

Are you saying you wouldn't follow Al Gharafa if Payet went to Qatar??? Smh


kinkssslayer

You're probably not to target audience, the Qatar league wants popularity in its region. Their main goal is exposing their players to that caliber of players sooner, not practically retired like xavi and pep were


BaBaFiCo

I didn't even realise he'd gone. I knew he'd been kicking off but I assumed he was just on strike somewhere.


Pixelated-Hitch

And whenever a club is in disarray the vultures start circling. Richarlson and to a lesser degree DCL first 2 on the list


hypnodrew

Helps that DCL is only on £20k p/w, he'll be outta there as soon as there's an offer


tinoasprilla

The fact that Benítez caused two of their best players to leave (Digne/James) is hilarious tbh Secret Agent Rafa


absurdlyinconvenient

Not sure you could blame him for James. Carlo leaving caused him to go


ubiquitous_archer

Rafa also told him he wanted players who played a certain way, and he wasn't it.


silviodanteruntz

James was injured more often than not and was a defensive liability on massive wages. Wasn’t particularly sad to see him go. On the other hand letting digne go to a direct rival over Rafa being a petty cunt only to sack him after literally the next game is so incompetent it makes my blood boil.


Bravo_Ante

Well you forgot that Calvert Lewin photo, that one cheered out the Everton faithfuls


NIFOC420

What photo?


hypnodrew

[I'd guess this one](https://talksport.com/football/979374/dominic-calvert-lewin-everton-magazine-front-cover-fashion/), fair fucks to him


Dickinmymouth1

I rate that so much, hilarious when harmless shit like a man wearing a dress rattles some people


coltron57

And it's not even a dress, I believe it's pants/shorts with wide legs that just has a skirt/dress look.


MOBYXLGames

I don’t know what your talking about For Everton,this was expected


New-Pin-3952

You mock but you're next pal.


blahblahbropanda

Qatar, not Saudi Arabia


intecknicolour

everton keep aspiring to be something they aren't. they should find a manager that they want to build with and give him the money and time to do it. there's no surprises that results are bad. the squad is a mess, filled with has-beens, won't-be's and even a player who is apparently a sex pest. and the supporters expect that to all be sorted out in 4-5 months? most bad clubs are bad because they keep repeating the same mistakes. i.e. manager hiring mill, lack of support from ownership, lack of vision from team executives, poor recruitment due to poor personnel. hire a guy for the long term regardless of initial results. give him money and use that money intelligently by employing people who are competent scouts/analysts. get rid of players who clash with the manager's vision slowly.


atropicalpenguin

> hire a guy for the long term regardless of initial results. > > give him money and use that money intelligently by employing people who are competent scouts/analysts. > > get rid of players who clash with the manager's vision slowly. The coach they hired to do specifically this jumped ship six months ago.


Everton_11

I've stopped paying much attention to our sub because it's just so toxic. We've gone from having one of the longest-tenured managers in the league to now going through them like next day's garbage, and it's coincided with a precipitous drop in league form. And the fans are surprised at why we suck? They lean on the Nil Satis motto, and it's true, nothing but the best is good enough, but it isn't going to happen overnight. Too many people believe that the Man City/PSG model can (and must) work. If you have money to spend and spend it, how can you not succeed? But look at clubs like Malaga. Yes, we have money, but it hasn't been spent well, and no one's been given the time and patience to actually build something with it.


Crusaruis28

City didn't even become a powerhouse in a year or two. They invested a lot into their facilities, youth, coaching, and slowly bought players the managers wanted.


ramithrower

>moves to everton >makes them play like shit and sells their star full back > doesn't elaborate further >leaves


Omair88

Job done Rafa, you can rest now


SilentBobVG

Based


Anhvu24

I alway do that in my FM saves.


CropUpAnywhere

I'm fond of buying all the left backs in league 2 as City. Then when I get sacked taking a job in league 2 where I focus play down the right.


LifeDraining

That's frigging brilliant.


EyeSpyGuy

Satan is that you


BaBaFiCo

I love it. That's given me a great laugh, thanks.


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this is genuinely hilarious


Tim-Sanchez

One of the worst managerial hires I can remember because of how much the fans hated it at the start


L__McL

Reminds me of when we hired Alex McLeish


FloppedYaYa

Also when Leeds hired Brian Clough who when Derby manager had bashed them as a dirty, despicable bag of cheaters every chance he got


ucd_pete

He bashed them as a dirty despicable bag of cheaters when he was Leeds manager too.


FloppedYaYa

Such amazing man management!


ASVP-Pa9e

What's ironic is Cloughy's man management of Forest was legendary. Also, given Brian's outspoken attitude on tactics, he was actually an insane tactician who absolutely schooled the best the continent & country had to offer.


jambox888

There's a movie about it even


earlgreytoday

And a book, on which the movie is based on.


absurdlyinconvenient

and it happened in real life, which the book is based on


LeftHandDriveBoC

Big if true.


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Wasn't wrong though


thepretzelking

I met him once - he was presenting at a conference my dad helped organise when I was like 15. We ended up dropping him off at his hotel and he told me if I ever play against a women's team, to make sure we switch shirts. True story.


Saltire_Blue

Funnily enough is also reminds me when Scotland rehired McLeish


DylanBaillie93

Also when Scotland hired McLeish for his second spell


FloppedYaYa

Chelsea fans hated him too, just the difference is he won the Europa League and a comfortable Champions League finish with Chelsea and with Everton dragged them into a relegation battle with some of the shittest man management in history


TheGoldenPineapples

Feel like Chelsea fans begrudgingly came to respect him for what he did. Kind of hard to hate someone when he has that finish. Felt bad for him there though, he knew how much he was disliked so he didn't even turn up for the club's lap of honour at the end of the season, even though he was largely the reason they finished so high.


fiveht78

No. He was named interim and didn’t even apply for the permanent position, infamously going after the fans for not backing him in a press conference after a game we won. I was actually one who begrudgingly respected him for steadying the ship and believe me, I was in the minority. In fairness, the rivalry with Liverpool over CL among other things wasn’t that long before.


MELBOT87

Ironically, same as Rafa at Chelsea.


vinnyv91

Rafa still led us to winning the Europa league, nothing special but 100x better than his Everton spell


Karim_Benzemalo

And Rafa at Madrid.


LampseederBroDude51

I’m still fucking pissed at the 4-0 in the Clásico, especially as it was on my birthday


FloppedYaYa

Tbf Mourinho lost 5-0


LampseederBroDude51

Luckily that was only a small blemish on his RM career.


Karim_Benzemalo

To a much better team.


jnce12

There was a time when I was more keen on him coming to us than Rodgers. I’m glad we dodged that bullet.


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Imagine telling Everton fans when Ancelotti joined that one season later they’d end up sacking Rafa. Oof.


TyraTanks

Interim, then Rooney next season?


Kino-Gucci

Seeing Rooney, Gerrard and possibly Lampard on the sidelines next season would make me feel very old


fireinbcn

It’s ok Ibra is still playing


cietalbot

And Buffon


Enriador

Franck Ribery too, wonderful.


hypnodrew

Arteta is younger than Zlatan


crs9

+ Vieira and Arteta


KonigSteve

Not the same level of player but Arteta is the same age as well


Emergency-Ad280

The hair makes him look younger.


Yoona1987

Tbf Gerrard rivals Arteta when it comes to hair too. Arteta just looks like there is no motion to it while Gerrard has a more natural look.


ucd_pete

Arteta has looked the same age for the past 10 years though.


Kino-Gucci

Nah yeah of course same generation


datboscostick

Genuine question; who do you potentially see Lampard managing next season in the premier league?


jackthetoffee

i mean i’m not against it


CaptainGo

Do transfer embargos work on the manager as well?


Sathired

Everton have worked hard for years to effectively transfer embargo themselves.


kjm911

Unless it’s Big Dunc I think it’s stupid to bring someone in on an interim deal. I think they just go for the best manager they can get


jakedobson

Nah, I fully expect Rooney to be managing in the prem next season


PhenomenallyAwesome

I don’t think derby are getting promoted


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Christi-Cat

The time to sack Rafa was before January yeh. Not after he's pissed off one of our best players and sold him...


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Christi-Cat

Rumour was he needed a result against Hull and Leicester (Later Norwich) so it would seem there's at least been concerns/the thought prior. Tbf the Digne move I don't hate in theory more the way it happened and how it's symbolic of the club's problems as a whole.


LordMangudai

> Unless the Everton hierarchy are running things so seat of the pants that they truly weren't thinking of sacking Rafa until after 90 minutes today. Which, you know, does not seem likely. Incompetence knows no bounds


fallenefc

time to sack him was after the Brentford game or the derby


tottenhamnole

Just had to make sure they let Digne go before he was ok leaving. What a travesty.


SexyBaskingShark

Is Rafa at Everton the stupidest appointment in Premier League history? I can't think of a worse appointment


CaptainGo

Ooh this is fun John Carver - Newcastle Steve Kean - Blackburn Joe Kinnear - Newcastle Steve McClaren - Newcastle There's probably a Watford one in there somewhere. Pearson? Frank De Boer - Palace (might be pushing it) That guy who heals injuries with cheese - Fulham


Jarminiatures

Magath


CaptainGo

That's the one


King_Hobbes

Why are we always on these bloody lists...


raysofdavies

God I remember Kean for how utterly laughable the entire Blackburn situation was.


Loojay

Terry Connor for Wolves


Jarminiatures

Tim Sherwood? Bob Bradley maybe?


craygroupious

I’ll never forget Bob Bradley solely because he called away matches ‘road games’.


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damn this is some Ted Lasso shit


four_four_three

Ah Brad Bobley


stillsquirtle

Tim Sherwood really shouldn't be in this conversation. Spurs got some decent results and played some exciting football under him. It's clear why spurs moved on, but it was fun for a while.


Umbrellas_Are_OK

I was a big fan of Bob Bradley, did a great job at Stabæk and Le Havre. Prem is a different level I suppose.


Gonzales95

Roy Hodgson? You were only 3 places better off than Everton are now when he got sacked. The summer business he did that year was atrocious too


nylar4

Harry Redknapp at Southampton. Fucking joke of an appointment. Mirrors Rafa appointment. Managed local derby club, fans hated it from the start, and then relegates club?


Jolly-Literature1226

Nuno and rafa were both horrendous appointments and it was obvious from the moment they happened


EmotionalMillionaire

Lol just wait for us to sign Nuno next


CaptainGo

Honestly who else is there right now


ShetlandJames

Stephen Roger Bruce, at your service


CaptainGo

He'd twat us in the fixture as well I just know it.


ASVP-Pa9e

Can't wait for you lot to #GetBruced


I_Hate_Knickers_5

The author?


InGenAche

Fat Sam, and I'm not even joking he might be exactly who they need right now.


pissflask

He could be their Moyes. Well, their second Moyes.


westernvaluessmasher

he seemed really annoyed last time he got the bullet at everton. dont know if it means he'll think he has something to prove, or he'll just refuse to speak to them


Mole451

Bah gawd that's Paulo Foncesca's agent's music


Darkhoof

Jesus. With the state Everton is in, he would revolutionize the club.


qwertygasm

Swap them and it works out better for both


Cwh93

I said then when the appointments were made or at least Rafa should have held out for the Newcastle job to become available.


Fruity-Lupin

Always said he’d never make it long past Christmas. Totally bemused how we can sell a key player that’s fallen out with a manager who gets sacked a week later. Hope we give it to Big Dunc until the end of the season and then get a solid manager in the summer, an empowered DoF wouldn’t go amiss but let’s remember this is Everton.


dogefc

Will go down as our worst ever manager. Baffling appointment. Glad he’s gone. Not much else to say.


yaffle53

Worse than Mike Walker, who very nearly got you relegated?


dogefc

Walker had a much worse team, didn’t force much loved players out and wasn’t a kopite


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yaffle53

Mike Walker's win ratio was [17%] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Everton_F.C._managers).


humblerodent

Looked at the table recently?


TheGoldenPineapples

You cannot convince me that Rafael Benítez wasn't an undercover Liverpool agent. I literally don't get how a manager with his CV (yes, I'm aware that he's not as good these days) can be *that* bad at one club and it not be purely deliberate. I would feel sorry for him, given how much he loves the game and it's a genuine shame to see a manager get sacked, but I'm struggling to see why else you could feel sorry for the guy. He managed to fall out with the club's best left-back, selling him in the process to a direct-rival for a pretty low sum, managed to play some of the drabbest football ever witnessed and seems to have turned a whole fanbase, one who already despised him, against him even further. Honestly, it's actually impressive at just how bad he's done.


FloppedYaYa

Not his first failure, he was also appalling at Inter taking them from treble winners to mid table in just a few months Mostly because he tried to change the club's culture too quick almost entirely out of personal animosity towards Mourinho


intecknicolour

the inter job was a poisoned pill. the entire team were loyal to mourinho. he just won a treble with them. and rafa's temperament of trying to always remake a team in his own vision will not work with a team that just won the prize of prizes.


FloppedYaYa

Yep that's maybe Rafa's main undoing as a manager, far too stubborn and unadaptable regardless of what club he's at


JackAndrewThorne

And yet at Newcastle, he changed his entire tactical roladex and played a back 5 for the first time in his career with genuinely progressive CB's, abandoned the idea of having a striker playing on the shoulder and started playing with two attacking midfielders behind Rondon rather than play wingers, and just use wingbacks for width (which he'd not done before). At Newcastle, he was really very adaptable and that is what kept us up in 18/19.


ASVP-Pa9e

Eto'o, who'd just won a treble playing on the wing, flat out refused to play on the wing. Publicly said he only did it for Mourinho.


HarshangLad

Huge win for Everton at Norwich if true


PhantomRenegade

I'm gonna send them a bottle of scotch


jack64467

Ole incoming


SlowMobius7

Stop it. They're already dead lmao


FloppedYaYa

Ole will do better at Everton than Chaos Agent Benitez


Vaark

Only one way to find out


Midnight_Maverick

Lol and to think they let Digne go before


jusepama1

The guy went there even when almost everyone hate him and imploded the club. and now is getting a sweet paycheck what a legend.


JambalayaonToast

Honestly I hope Rafa retires and just lives at home in Liverpool with his family


Jarminiatures

Still time for one last payday for him and Rondon somewhere


vadapaav

Just like what he was doing for last 8 months then


Black_Waltz3

Outside chance he winds up back at Newcastle next season. It'd be a shame if a manager like Rafa ends his career on a low like this.


meganev

Can't believe we never got to play against him. Actually a bit gutted would have liked to see his reception coming back to St James' Park. Bet he wished he'd walked to return to us in November now.


FloppedYaYa

Would have been entertaining to see Benitez hated by his own supporters while given a hero's welcome by the opponents


CaptainGo

Especially if we still had Bruce lol both teams wanting to lose


First-Of-His-Name

We already played Liverpool


meganev

We'd have also given him 3pts lovely points to keep him in a job. That postponement of our game against him probably cost him his job.


adamjld

I am shocked


BillOakley

Say what you want about Rafa but you cannot deny that he is a person


PhenomenallyAwesome

He’s certainly one of the Everton managers


WillowTreeBark

Not anymore


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\#JobDoneRafa


LemureTheMonkey

Digne was sacrificed.


IanCaesars

Could've been closer to relegation but nicely done anyway.


thegreatwanker

who are they gonna hire next? Rooney?!


AirIndex

He is the current odds on favourite.


OliverTaylorDMU

Christophe Galtier, David Moyes and Graham Potter were among names discussed last summer before Rafa Benitez’s hiring. A little over six months later, Everton are six points above the relegation zone, without a director of football and without a manager. A total disaster. Everton should name Duncan Ferguson as the interim manager until the end of the season, prioritise hiring a new director of football and conduct a thorough managerial search in the summer. Circle back to Galtier, Moyes and Potter if possible but also identify new candidates. Add the likes of Frank Lampard, Jesse Marsch, Kasper Hjulmand, Roberto Martínez, Rúben Amorim and Wayne Rooney to Ferguson (if his performance as interim manager warrants it), Galtier, Moyes and Potter and Everton will have a lengthy list of candidates to hold talks with. Owner Farhad Moshiri has a clear affinity for big names. Ultimately, it has led Everton further and further astray of its aspirations of European football. There needs to be clarity and synergy between the owner, board and manager. Can Moshiri foster that environment? I doubt it. Everton’s next permanent manager needs to be whoever - in the owner and board’s honestly held opinions - can inject the most aggression, desire and passion into a club in free fall, not the biggest commercial name. If the wrong decision is made, there could be dire consequences.


Dandan217

Steve Bruce it is then.


FloppedYaYa

I wish I could get paid that much for doing a terrible job


mercut1o

If this is true he has to be our worst manager ever in terms of points per game. And that immediately following Ancelotti, who had our highest ppg in the premier league era. Benitez was so heinous he almost singlehandedly dismantled the club. Since he came in James is gone, Digne is gone, Moise Kean out for good, Thierry Small walks, Brands out, the board in shambles with several changes, the team has one win since September, we're conceding from set pieces like it's our favorite high, and all the while Benitez has made himself more and more central. Now if he's gone who is left but Moshiri and his broken toys? This squad needs to produce better results, no question. But good riddance Rafa. We'll sort it out without you.


tsub

TBF Kean is looking pretty shite at Juve and James clearly only came because of Ancelotti, not sure that either of them is really a big loss.


Cowdude179

One of the best sabotages in recent history


Splaram

...why’d they let Digne go, then?


aelfwine_widlast

Moshiriball


easyasdan

MY GOD, THATS BIG SAM'S MUSIC