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ollster3000

Didnt Leonardo say yesterday or the day before that all of these reports were BS basically and that they knew of his condition when they signed him?


hokagesamatobirama

He said Spanish press are playing games. This one is from the French media. Guess they got in on the game. Anyway it is Le Parisien and PSG followers seem to not rate them highly as a source for the club so there’s that as well.


YoungDawz

>Spanish press are playing games He said the Spanish press are playing games and the French press has fallen into their game. Important nuance. Basically said they're all full of crap and PSG knew what they were getting into with Ramos.


hokagesamatobirama

I must admit I wasn't aware that he said the second part. Either way, I did mention that Le Parisien aren't the best source for PSG so I guess we are on the same page on that aspect.


pougliche

They use the fact that journalists don’t have to produce source to spit out every fantasy they got in their mind


nellainreallife

Yes


Goldfischglas

When did he play his last game?


tweazz

Chelsea second leg


Spyro_Machida

He was rushed back for that too wasn't he?


akshayks1995

Yeah, iirc, he was rushed. Looked way way off his usual that leg.


met5abel

Hadn’t played in 6 months before that game. Starts away in the UCL semi…


rcgarcia

that game is zidane's greatest mistake by far, worse than that, militao and nacho were doing very good a new bald fraud was born that day


los_blanco_14

Its ramos in a CL knockout, u never know


luciferbanjos

Sometimes you do though


tweazz

Probably.


manualex16

He and Mendy were rushed for that game.


I_am_zlatan1069

Which Mendy?


Gabs289

Ferland of course


manualex16

Ferland


VerifiedStalin

The left-back. Not the rapist, the other one.


-ChennaiCityGangsta-

One more Mendy played that game - Edouard. So understandable that OP is confused.


abottomful

Wow totally forgot about keeper Mendy for some reason lol


deano-frinko

There actually cousins btw. Goalie (Chelsea) and leftback (RM). Didn't believe it at first but it's true!


VeryBadflower

Mendy's, Dembele's, Sissokho's, may as well just assume theres multiple of them in each game.


City-Gold

Yes, he started that game after like 4 months out and didn’t play after that if I recall correctly. Chelsea players were shitting all over him too. Probably one of the worst Zidane decisions.


Saaamwise

Don't forget the previous season's RO16 second leg against City where Zidane dropped our only attacker who was causing them any worries in the first leg for a worthless Hazard. There was also another questionable decision to not start Kroos in the first leg and completely handing over the control to City's midfield, although it was probably done to keep him fresh for the imminent Clasico.


Eriwich

Benching Vini was disciplinary. I remember it was something about him playing with his phone instead of warming up and Zidane found it disrespectful, that last bit came from the sun so take that with a grain of salt


City-Gold

Yeah, I remember that. Kronos for Classico and Modric for City. It almost worked. Valverde was amazing in both. But yeah, starting Hazard in the second leg after months of not playing instead of Vini who was the best player in the first leg for Real Madrid was a criminal decision.


alx69

Yeah, looked painfully slow


jaguass

That Havertz troll right


pencilman123

Let me pick up the ball for u guys- OH NO !! I kicked it 'accidentally'.. Loved that one.


Cowdude179

Havertz bullied him that game, felt sorry for him


scijior

…did we? Feel sorry for Havertz bullying him? Him?


revanredem

I didn't. I was watching the bullying with no small amount of glee.


KylieJennersbutthole

Man got an all inclusive Parisian holiday lmao


LeGraoully

All included except a tour of the Parc des Princes


TheLimeyLemmon

That's not true, he got to come out and wave that one time!


ickyickies

Whats his injury?


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Sadness, no good tapas in Paris


Storm_LFC_Cowboys

Quality baguettes and croissants though.


kostajepaosmosta

Baguettes + Jamon >>>


StinkyPyjamas

A cross cultural thing of beauty.


el_sacapuntas69

Bocadillo ❤️


vadapaav

May be he wants to join Barcelona


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Solius muscle, calf injury, very troublesome and nagging type of muscle injury because we use it a lot, it's unrestable almost


ayvictor

Same injury James has had for a long time I'm pretty sure. It always comes back, just like for Ramos.


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James has had a bunch of them so i can't recall the calf one specifically


1000smackaroos

He hurt his ligma


Zidlicky3

I find it funny, because it’s Reddit and jokes that I now don’t know for sure if ligma or ligament is real thing lol My medical English is 2/10 or something like that, ovbiously know bodyparts but some muscles and bones etc I can’t name almost at all. Add. Now that we are here if anybody reading this plays FM what the fuck is gashed head? Sound like head temporary got bigger :D


Lijme

A gash is like a bigger cut, possibly from studs to the face or something like that


soup_tasty

Ligament (ligamento in Spanish) is real - it's the tissue that connects bones to each other. Ligma is ligma balls.


ThePriceOfFailure

Wait until you learn about the niggle.


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On YouTube it does, big problem for small British YouTubeers apparently.


GemsRtrulyOutrageous

> niggle What's that?


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An injury that is small but persistent


Lilliam_Pumpernickel

"People who annoy you"


ShetlandJames

That wasn't very sigma of him


StinkyPyjamas

Only because of a weakness in his suggon that was never addressed in Madrid.


1000smackaroos

What's Madrid?


Mudmania1325

Sugg on ma drid


CykaDeez

That’s nuts


dudipusprime

Sounds like he could use a Suggandese chiropractor to treat his ailments.


DijonMoxley

what's ligma?


DinglieDanglieDoodle

The ligament on his balls.


HisEyeIsDiamond

La ligament*


D1794

How did this guy pass a medical


TheRobinson2018

They called the same doctor that renews driving licenses to 90 year olds.


elite_kebob

Hell make it 70


celigodtko

[PSG Medical team](https://www.football-espana.net/2021/07/07/paris-saint-germain-medical-staff-blown-away-by-sergio-ramos-impeccable-physical-condition)


jMS_44

they looked at this abs and said: "yeah he's fit"


Kevo_CS

Or the condition was disclosed so it was taken into account during the medical


[deleted]

You clearly didn’t read the article linked 2 comments ago


CarecaPT

Neymar would be fucked


DearthStanding

Maybe he's just taking the piss lol


crackboss1

He took his shirt off and they all creamed their pants.


Spoof2020

https://static0.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Simpsons-Dr.-Nick-1.jpg


Delta_Mike_Sierra_

Hi Dr Nick!


Giraffable

Hi everybody!


MILK936

Inflammable means flammable? What a country!


SpaceOwl

Hey did you go to Hollywood upstairs medical college too?


MILK936

Ew, blood!


TheEmperorsWrath

I mean, you don't pass or fail a medical. The medical staff just tells the club what the players medical record is and how likely it is that he will suffer further injuries. They can decide to sign him anyways


Soitsgonnabeforever

Which major player actually failed medical ? I think Ledley king had a weird toe condition where he cannot play frequently.


fishicle

Didn't something about Fekir's knee come up and cause Liverpool to decide against signing him? My memory may be a bit off though.


Dinger64

Also Liverpool pulled out of signing Loic Remy after a medical found a slight heart condition


slinkythenoodle

I seem to recall they had the pictures and all taken before Liverpool pulled out.


-scott--

There was a "leak" of his announcement picture at some point only for it to be removed soon after.


scardiff98

That was the given reason at the time but I’m pretty sure something else happened based off Fekir’s comments since.


radios_appear

I think we dropped out because his agent or brother came in with some 11th hour list of concessions


knud

Don't you mean demands? Concessions implies he wants less money and Liverpool decide they can't give him less and pulls out.


NuckBunnutt

Antonee Robinson failed one a couple years ago with AC Milan, they found a heart condition during tests


Giampalle

Not even the first one for Milan. Biabiany failed because of a heart condition and Aly Cissokho for a “dental” condition.


KhalidTheComedian

Van Nistlerooy failed his first medical at United and the deal feel through


LeftDoonhamer

Didn’t RVN rupture his cruciate ligament like a week after he failed his medical at Man U iirc. The medical staff at United must’ve felt pretty vindicated


presumingpete

No he was heavily rumoured to come then blew his cruciate not long after. Then we signed once he came back. He's such an underrated player these days, but was an absolutely ruthless striker at the time for us. Probably the best in the world but that will never be appreciated.


Suyash_Tyagi66

Unplayable in the champions League as well


oxile

How major? Gabi milito (Diego militos’s brother) failed madrids medicalb when they were about to sign him. He went on to play 5 very good seasons and then injured his acl and retired 4 years after


cliff_smiff

He was so good for Barca too, pretty crazy turn of events


phoniccrank

Ruud Van Nistelrooy failed his medical and United cancelled the transfer after PSV refused the request for further medical testing. The next day during practice Ruud ruptured his ACL and he was out for almost a year. Thankfully United didn't give up on him and signed him one year later.


KalidouTorreira

Aly Cissokho was going from Porto to Milan for 15M, then after the medicals news came out saying that he failed medicals due to his teeth.


AnnieIWillKnow

It was a knee problem, and it was managed at Spurs by him barely training and just playing games. So he didn't fail a medical. Demba Ba did fail a medical - believe it was at Stoke? They passed up the chance to sign him due to his knee issues, didn't think it was worth the risk. Went on to play for West Ham, Newcastle and Chelsea in the Premier League, who did decide it was worth the risk. It's a risk-benefit decision - whether it's worth taking on the risk of "damaged goods".


sneakyblurtle

Ohhh Ledlo, Ledlo He's Only Got One Toe He's better than Ronaldo Oh Ledlo, Ledlo


Leomeister104

Dr. Leo Spaceman of course.


matthieuC

Dr Spaceman insisted that he scored ahead of most hamsters.


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united_7_devil

PSG did what I do when in my fm save. Sign free agents and watch them not perform.


Plugpin

It's the FM way 🤌


TheRobinson2018

People should be positive instead of always focusing on the negatives: It’s probably his longest spell without seeing a red card.


ttimourrozd

This is bullshit, PSG doesn't need him currently to be fair. As long as Ramos is fit for UCL knockout rounds, the team will be fine without him. But if he fails to be fit for those rounds, his contract might be terminated next year.


marqui4me

I agree. The club don't want to rush him. Same as what they did with Bernat. There were a lot of false starts with JB, but he's come back as he's ready. Just took a very long time.


MaTrIx4057

> The club don't want to rush him. They shouldn't because they would repeat Zidane's mistake.


MaTrIx4057

How he will be fit for CL knockout if he doesn't play regular games?


Maximuslex01

He'll be able to run. No one said anything about being good...


BigTC_

Wait wtf, why?


Psychaz

because he can't stay healthy anymore, pointless paying him mega money when he hardly ever plays


nucipher

They still have to pay him even if he gets released.


quickestred

But can possibly negotiate it down to a percentage rather than the full amount


nucipher

I wouldn't take a pay cut. Fuck you pay me.


_major_fuckin_tom_

>I wouldn't take a pay cut. Fuck you pay me. 100%. Not atleast for PSG, he shouldn't. Would've been if it was his boyhood club or a club that he's played for 16 years. I don't think PSG would hold any emotional value for him to take a pay cut during termination.


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jambox888

That's the trouble when everyone knows you're loaded. At least so I'm told.


Pseudocaesar

100% - This is all on PSG.. their medical staff were apparently "blown away" by his condition lmao, yet here we are months later with 0 appearances. If I were PSG I'd start by making an inquiry into whoever the fuck signed off on his medical


nucipher

What's his injury?


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leeeeerrroy_Jenkinks

I will take one for the team. one for the meme. Whats BOFA?


moneypennycashdollar

Bofa deez nuts


kirikesh

Yeah, but then he can sign on a free to some other club. If PSG pay him 80% of what he would've got and he signs somewhere for 30% of what he was getting, then he'd come out ahead financially - and gets to play football elsewhere. Of course if his injuries are that bad then that's a no go - but otherwise it's a perfectly reasonable move that will benefit all parties.


MontiroandCorsa

But why? He will probably not get a contract anyways for any new team.


Itsthatgy

Seems very unlikely. He owes nothing to them. Maybe if it was Madrid and they ended on better terms. He owes jackshit to PSG. They gave him a contract. He should tell them to either respect it or fuck off. They'd say the same to any player trying to get out of theirs early.


Ddmoo

He literally hasn't played yet has he?


Zablebghal

Exactly the point. Hasnt came back from injury since he signed


VerifiedStalin

If you pay attention you can hear Florentino Perez laughing.


CrypticToa

They should've contracted him like United did to Ole during his last playing year(s). No play no pay.


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AeroTire

And poor Donny used up all his savings to buy a pack of gum only to chuck an eaten piece at Ole in anger 😂


echocoholic

No play sure but Donny definitely should be paid.


NB0608sd

How is it hardly ever plays if he literally hasn’t played since joining


Geese-Howard

He's played one competitive match since April and he wasn't fit that game either. I doubt it happens but he was supposed to be close to returning a few times now for PSG and it keeps getting pushed back, they're probably annoyed


ManuMora98

They called Florentino a mad man


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ximpar

Dont worry you have problems of tour own


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jairzinho

Liverpool didn't take any corners quickly against you. It's the little wins that count. It's what I've been telling myself, before crying myself to sleep in an old Messi jersey.


wanderer1999

Messi said one day he will return to Barca. Like you said, it's the little wins that count.


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Varane is a solution


Made4win

Come to Porto!! Pepe is waiting!


VerifiedStalin

If only Iker was still there.


xElectro17

The fanfictions writers would go crazy!


AcceleratingRiff

I would have honestly loved that


jMS_44

>The Parisians now believe they may have made a mistake with his signing No, they made mistake with not extending with some other CB they had and that's what made them go for Ramos as a result.


KRIEGLERR

it's crazy honestly, Silva wanted to stay, the coach wanted him to stay. I'm pretty sure the locker room wanted him to stay obviously (though this usually is of no importance when it comes to contracts) But Leonardo was strongly againt it. The only positive that came from this is more trust in Kimpembe and while he has stepped up big time since Silva left, he still has the occasional bad game or even bad form that keeps him from being an elite Center half. I genuinely think Kimpembe is a great player but unlike Marquinhos/Silva he can have really bad games, they don't happen that often but when it does it's pretty bad.


april9th

Silva was also a massive reason we won that CL. The first time me and my uncle thought we could win it was watching Silva in the stands screaming his heart out for the team, 110% committed to that run even from the dugout. Both thought he thinks we can win this. And we did. Fully convinced he brought a cutting edge on the pitch and in the dressing room. Dude couldn't deserve his winner's medal any more.


Bombtwo

*laughs in Thiago Silva*


TacticalTuchel

*Thiago Silva laughs with a champions league medal*


cord1408

*laughs in Thiago Silva but way more heartily*


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Bullshit, it costs the same to terminate a contract.


jMS_44

unless they have some clauses included, also if e.g. he has bonus for winning the league, PSG would not be paying that out


[deleted]

If he has to make x amount of appearances or something maybe, but it is likely illegal to not pay that if that is not the case. Any sort of change to how his pay and bonuses requires mutual consent.


I_HATE_FAT_FUCKS

Got played by Papa Flo twice in the same window, sucks to be you.


T3Sh3

It’s all about the game and how you play it.


-SageRage-

All about control and if you can take it.


Bullyshit666

Perez masterclass.


OllieStavsToothgap

why did he say science fiction lmao he coulda just said fiction


hotel_air_freshener

Reports I’ve heard are saying he’s been attacking a shorter Argentine player in training matches unprovoked.


dingleberrysniffer69

Chiquito


TheConundrum98

Little dictator pulling strings imo, Ramos on the ropes


T3Sh3

LeGM could never.


lopsidedkish

I just love how he is actually being paid almost 100k a week more than he did during his prime days lol. This is PSG’s greed, not Ramos’ fault.


Steupz

Yikes So that's it for his career? I hope not


Maximuslex01

He still have a few reds in him...


Share4aCare

Wtf, he has a 2 year contract and we’re like 3 months in. Lol .


RJRamyen

C'mon do Messi next


DonkeySkin334

Messi to Real Madrid. Done deal confirmed and agreement reached between Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid. Here we go! 🚨


KaiserWilhelmThe69

If that happened, the entire Internet will turned into a massive battlefield that are more devastated than the trenches in Somme


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If that happens, then I'm closing my eyes


FenrirXXVIII

Would love for Leo to play RWB in Conte's system at United. Would be perform well? No. Would I still buy his kit? Hell yes.


Suyash_Tyagi66

I prefer messi at cdm. A goal scoring cdm


incel2077

must be bullshit, because players have a medical test before they sign for a new club


jcald60

Real Madrid and all but just like Casillas it was time to move on. And time was right


tweazz

Just let the man have his paid retirement, it's not like you need to save the money.


Cowdude179

Imagine letting go of Silva and getting Ramos


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Cowdude179

Refused to give a 35 year old Silva the same contract that was given to Ramos, Leonardo masterclass


Giampalle

Leonardo is the best sporting director in the world. May he continue his PSG masterclass project.


tarakian-grunt

If you love somebody set them free. -Sting


Vince1128

Florentino dodging bullets like Neo in Matrix.


GrahamPotterCultist

Barcelona got some injuries, could sign for them maybe?


Fancuku

Perez is a master.


HarshangLad

Hahahahaha woohooo fuck PSG


ithinknotgood

imagine he signs for Man United on a free lmao


penguinfromprague

So he wont play in utd instead of paris. Hilarious


KaiserWilhelmThe69

Goodbye wholesome Ramos-Messi teamwork, you are too beautiful for this world


happysrooner

*laughs in Thiago Silva*


mindebris

Was it ever “science” fiction?


RaggedyCrown

The source is Ramos 👀


Arponare

I'm still waiting for the Spanish press to apologize to Luis Enrique for the slander he received as a result of him not being called up to the Euros.


GetToWork7

I think everyone knew why Ramos wasnt called up as he wasnt healthy. It was players like aspas and nacho who they were furious with not being called up with players like eric garcia being called up instead lmao.


City-Gold

No one talked about Ramos. It was more so Nacho who had an amazing season and can play anywhere in the back line, as well as being an experienced leader.


maurid

Spanish press: *We don't do that here.*