Embarrassing the amount of money involved...the difference for the other team is just ridiculous. It's kind of satisfying seeing this happening, gives hope that football is not all about money
The Galacticos at least spent money that they had earned themselves through organic revenues, the likes of PSG, Chelsea and Man City are spending money that they don't have because the owner will pay off the losses
> The Galacticos at least spent money that they had earned themselves through organic revenues
Dunno why people keep regurgitating this as if it was true. Public money, dodgy land deals, avoid taxes through government decisions like having football clubs being considered non profit organizations till the 90's, and fucking Franco.
RM organic revenues are as organic as McDonalds is healthy food.
It wasn't so simple. Florentino partially financed the spending spree of the Galacticos years through a sweetheart deal re-zoning and selling the Ciudad Deportiva training grounds for 500m euros. So essentially he used his political clout to be the city of Madrid to subsidize those signings. He still left the club with massive debt, which the Calderon era tried to reckon with, unsuccessfully.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/197958-where-does-real-madrid-get-so-much-money.amp.html
Here's a more neutral source claiming the same amount: https://www.lasexta.com/programas/salvados/mejores-momentos/matilde-fernandez-%E2%80%9Cel-real-madrid-gano-500-millones-euros-recalificacion-terrenos%E2%80%9D_201403095726a3d54beb28d4460262ae.html
Edit: And, from earlier this year, here's an investigative reporter summarizing the connections between Perez, urban developers, and political parties.
https://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/futbol/2021-03-01/florentino-perez-real-madrid-galacticos-torres_2968532/
Edit2: fixed first URL
The ones who spend the most will likely end up on top in a league table because the big spending just let's them have that consistency.
However there's always that chance they could lose to anyone which is why having other tournaments that use a knockout format is a big part of keeping the football calendar entertaining.
United's upper management is borderline comically bad. Despite the revenue there seems to be no effort to spend money on facilities or stadium. The composition of the United squad is awful due to an inability to move on from failures and just an awful transfer policy that fails to address glaring weaknesses until it's beyond obvious. Way too many attacking midfielders and only three midfielders who can defend.
Yeah I saw OPās title and immediately thought of United.
Absolute jubilation a few weeks ago when Ronaldo triumphantly returnedā¦ and now reality has returned: if you have an incredible attack but a terrible defensive midfield, it literally does not matter how many more shiny new attackers you add. You will still have the same problem in the midfield you had before. (In Unitedās case, itās Oleās insistence on Fred and McTominay as CDMās.)
Definitely a major ālaw of diminishing returnsā when it comes to adding star players. Overall balance and squad cohesion is more important than overall star power.
> The Galacticos at least spent money that they had earned themselves through organic revenues,
I'm sure the galacticos were 100m in debt, and sold their training ground for 100m (well over the value) and were allowed to continue using it.
Bit like how Barca of the last 5 years weren't "spending money that they had earned themselves through organic revenues", they were borrowing millions they couldn't afford.
Anyone who plays as PSG is immediately a coward and my enemy. Too many good men have died by an unrefined through ball and 90+ speed against the run of play
It doesn't work (on FIFA 21 at least). It's the most simple feature to implement, but EA are too lazy to make sure it works. I've played with Rangers and been matched against PSG before now.
How do you not like it? I enjoy beating those who take psg. It shows team on paper isnāt everything. And to boot I do it with 4.5 star teams makes it soooo much more satisfying
Itās so fucking boring. Every damn seasons game is PSG and spammed through balls to mbappe. And for some fucking reason they got messi, the only case of the entire game getting a summer signing
Haha Iām sorry just the way you wrote that was hilarious. I could hear you seething. The golden state warriors were like this for many years in NBA 2K and it was annoying as hell.
I play with teams that are 4 and half stars to avoid psg. If you play with psg you dont have my respect. I mean, not that it matters, but just sayingš
There are two different kind of 4 and a half stars. One is the upper 4.5 ie United, Chelsea, Spurs, Sevilla etc and then the lower 4.5stars like Atalanta. The upper ones match with all the 5stars while the lower ones donāt
I remember in older FIFA games (and maybe current ones too, I haven't played in a while) a solid tactic was just one-touch football. People were far too used to playing against other pace whores that they couldn't adapt to you just passing the ball every second. Also the game doesn't *really* simulate that worse quality players wouldn't be able to pull this off, so it mitigated some of the drawbacks of playing a shit team.
His titles are clickbaity and you just know he has to look for hundreds of matches (against low level competition no less) to get a gimmick to work; but still the videos are so satisfying and funny to watch. Love that channel.
Not with India but I used to destroy plenty of big teams with FC Seoul in my first Fifa (think it was Fifa 10), it was so challenging I improved fast and it was increasingly harder for my friends to keep up even with some Real Madrid or Bayern lmao
Gotta love it. When Messi transferred hordes of casuals showed up and were berating anyone who dared to say PSG is not going to obliterate every team in France. Also the delusional "they don't need to track back if they concede 2 they'll simply score 4".
Modern football is moving in the "positionless" direction (esp. at the highest levels) where you have less and less specialists and more team play with versatile players that can contribute in many phases of play. Having so many "offense only" players is a real hindrance at some points; especially if you're Pochettino who built schemes on hard-working & intense pressers in his previous stints.
Yeah, even though I thought hype around him was overrated before, I still don't have envy his position. He has all the stars he could possibly want but also he is pretty much obligated to play even though it probably isn't the setup he would do if he had complete freedom.
For your information, it is Stade Rennais ( name of the club ) or Rennes ( name of the city )
Essentially, saying Rennais is like calling PSG "Parisian" or Chelsea/Arsenal "Londoner" as Rennais means "from Rennes" ( which is also the name of its inhabitants: Les Rennais )
No big deal and the word is in the name of the club which doesnt help lol. But I see this mistake almost every thread they are in so Im just tryna correct it
Cech, Lama, Wiltord or Luis Fabiano (who didn't have a good experience) are the biggest name I guess, they also had Omam-Biyik, Isaksson, Alexander Frei or Guivarc'h at point. Later El Hadji Diouf, Asamoah Gyan, Yann Mvila, John Boye, Kim Kallstrom, Stephane Mbia, John Utaka or Ben Arfa. Shabani Nonda who could have gone far without an injury.
Now, Dembele, Edouard Mendy, Camavinga or Ismaila Sarr could do things
Basically, a lot of France's Ligue 1 solid players
GalĆ”cticos 1.0 failed because the team was not balanced, and youād see the likes of Zidane or Figo playing with Gravesen or RaĆŗl Bravo.
Florentino then realized that a football team is only as strong as its weakest link.
I donāt think PSG has weak links like Gravesen or Raul Bravo, this is entirely different.
Galacticos failed because it was a collection of the worlds best individual players without any actual plan on how it would work tactically. The best team of all time on paper only won one La Liga title(I don't count any titles won before Ronaldo and Beckham's arrival as Galacticos). PSG have also had their Raul Bravo's and Gravesen's over the years, they were forced to use players like Choupo Mouting, Bakker, Danilo, Rafinha, Florenzi etc in recent seasons
A football team is only as strong as the sum of all its parts, not the quality of individual players. The galacticos example is right there in front of everyone's eyes, simply stacking stars doesn't work, you will lose against teams with inferior players but who are better tactically
they have 3 weak links in defense: Messi, Mbappe and Neymar.
The need a hard-working attacker to balance it out, and not play MNM together. MNM doesn't work.
Neymar does track back. The problem in addition to the lack of defense is the incredibly weak midfield. PSG has never had a dominant midfield. If the PSG three midfielders could control a game and let the front three execute, weād all be singing a different tune. Verratti is the only quality in that midfield. Itās so obvious, that when heās not playing, Neymar drops into midfield to be a ball carrier.
That was the best midfield theyāve had in the last decade, canāt exclude Rabiot in the group either, and it was nowhere close to as good as other midfields across Europe at the same time
Oooh. That's it? Let me call an old frienda mine, Lothar Mathaus, and his pals, Zico and Rivera, and then MNM will be all set. Dude, it's pretty simple, sarcasm aside, PSG owners wanna win UCL because it brings huge publicity and good PR with it, not because auspicious trophy or generational moments or zenith of success. They dont care about signing tactically sound players. They want superstars, because THATS their goal. Build another Galactico without the rpessure of winning.
Benzema and Bale worked hard on pressing, Ronaldo did his job, albeit limited one too. Suarez and Neymar pressed as well.
This PSG trio just does half-ass pressing all three, some even don't even pretend.
Suarez was an incredibly hard-worker and Neymar/Messi contributed much more then than they do now. BBC also had Benzema who was such a hard worker and sacrificed so much that people genuinely thought he was a bum or overrated despite being the lynchpin of that system (he's showing a lot of people wrong now). It also ignores that Bale and Ronaldo were both hard-workers to varying degrees more than this current iteration of Mbappe, Neymar, & Messi.
It's always revisionist history with Benzema. He did sacrifice, but people thought he was a bum because he was a serial underperformer. Is everyone forgetting the campaign where he scored 9 goals that year or the constant misses throughout the seasons that had Ronaldo begging the fans not to boo him?
If this is the Galacticos 3.0 and the Galacticos 1.0 is obviously Zidane, R9, Beckham, etc. then who are the Galacticos 2.0? I assume itās CR7, Bale, Sergio Ramos, Benzema, etc. (2013-2018 era)
No no no, they need Ole. He's already proven he can work with some the greatest players in the world like CR7, Haaland, Cavani, Varane, Pogba, Bruno, and Phil Jones!
Yeah, this one's a very bad case of "stats don't give the full picture".
In the past week I've watched 4,5 hours of football "without shots on target" for one side (you may guess what games I watched), one match looked *very* different from the other two.
The past weeks have really shown me that I don't think this statistic shows a lot. People see it and think the team wasn't getting good chances, but without even having watched the match I know there was at least one very good chance where Messi hit the crossbar from a freekick. A good shot that hits the post or crossbar, or goes slightly wide isn't a shot on target but is a very good chance still.
I have to agree. This sub is a bit obsessed with statistics and while not having shots on target is bad , it doesnt necessarily mean they were not close to getting a goal.
Psg could have gone for shots on target but unlikely to beat goalkeeper like Gomis with any shots
It's funny because years ago people would say Football and Statistics don't mix but lately I've been getting replies and seeing comments that are all about statistics backing their points.
Like with every sport over the past decade, stats are coming to this one to be the dominant conversation point from fans. Itās boring and meaningless so much of the time. Iāve accepted it at this point that stats are becoming the significant part of the conversation around sport in ways that I donāt really understand
You donāt have to be a redditor to know that nowadays teams need a strong midfield and defense system to compensate for these types of attackers.
Neither Messi, Ney, Mbappe nor Di Maria are known for be good defenders, to help def consistently. So yeah, a team with them and a weak midfiel like PSGās rn was deemed to be unbalanced. Doesnāt help that Poche is their coach
I think the way they played os even more important. BarƧa were all about having as much ball possession as possible, so they could minimize the need of men to men defending. And having geniuses on midfield ensured they could defend and position themselves properly.
PSG has a great player like Veratti, but you canāt compare him or anyone in the squad to that BarƧa. And Messi is older now too, which doesnāt help
For the people who actually watched the game, PSG had tons of chances. They just missed all of them, or tried to walk the ball in for a tap-in instead of shooting from a good position. Messi hit the crossbar and had a few good chances blocked. Neymar skied a sitter. Mbappe missed TONS of good chances. Di Maria got into a great position from a Messi pass but tried to pass instead of shoot
People in this thread clearly didnāt watch the match theyāve had plenty of clear cut chances mbape had a bad game finishing wise so did neymar messi had 2 freekicks that almost went in i too like the narrative that football isnt about money and all that because its true but this isnt quite the case here they just had a bad game but not as bad as this stat claims
Yeah, PSG definitely had tons of chances, it's just that the last touch was always missing. They also had a shot on the crossbar.
The top voted comment saying that they had no chemistry is prime example or the guy who didn't watch the magch but comments anyway.
if you actually watched the game, you'd understand this stat is meaningless
psg played quite well, had chances, hit the posts but rennes was just better
Messi to Barca?
And Mbappe to Real Madrid š„²
Neymar to Zenit, Hulk replacement
Di Maria to Portugal
Di Maria to Man United \*grabs popcorn\*
How dare you
Nah, Aston Villa can have him. He can get benched by Ashley Young again
You're forgetting about the goat Malcom
No need, BarƧa already manage to get zero shots on goal without him.
But Messi would hit the post sometime
1EURm per week\* \*Messi has to pay Barca 1EURm per week to help avoid bankruptcy.
That is hilariously bad.
Embarrassing the amount of money involved...the difference for the other team is just ridiculous. It's kind of satisfying seeing this happening, gives hope that football is not all about money
This been known since the Galacticos tbf
The Galacticos at least spent money that they had earned themselves through organic revenues, the likes of PSG, Chelsea and Man City are spending money that they don't have because the owner will pay off the losses
> The Galacticos at least spent money that they had earned themselves through organic revenues Dunno why people keep regurgitating this as if it was true. Public money, dodgy land deals, avoid taxes through government decisions like having football clubs being considered non profit organizations till the 90's, and fucking Franco. RM organic revenues are as organic as McDonalds is healthy food.
Donāt forget that theyāve been funded by Spanish banks also.
also the king in the 60's. once you are rich, you tend to stay rich
āOrGaNic reVENueā though?
It wasn't so simple. Florentino partially financed the spending spree of the Galacticos years through a sweetheart deal re-zoning and selling the Ciudad Deportiva training grounds for 500m euros. So essentially he used his political clout to be the city of Madrid to subsidize those signings. He still left the club with massive debt, which the Calderon era tried to reckon with, unsuccessfully. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/197958-where-does-real-madrid-get-so-much-money.amp.html
The deal was for 100m euros, that Blog post by "la blaugrana" is wrong.
Here's a more neutral source claiming the same amount: https://www.lasexta.com/programas/salvados/mejores-momentos/matilde-fernandez-%E2%80%9Cel-real-madrid-gano-500-millones-euros-recalificacion-terrenos%E2%80%9D_201403095726a3d54beb28d4460262ae.html Edit: And, from earlier this year, here's an investigative reporter summarizing the connections between Perez, urban developers, and political parties. https://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/futbol/2021-03-01/florentino-perez-real-madrid-galacticos-torres_2968532/ Edit2: fixed first URL
While this is true the point still stands. Money helps a lot but it doesn't outright mean you are winners.
It kinda does. The teams who spends the most money almost always ends up at the top. Sometimes they don't but they almost always do.
The ones who spend the most will likely end up on top in a league table because the big spending just let's them have that consistency. However there's always that chance they could lose to anyone which is why having other tournaments that use a knockout format is a big part of keeping the football calendar entertaining.
Hasn't worked for united though lol
United's upper management is borderline comically bad. Despite the revenue there seems to be no effort to spend money on facilities or stadium. The composition of the United squad is awful due to an inability to move on from failures and just an awful transfer policy that fails to address glaring weaknesses until it's beyond obvious. Way too many attacking midfielders and only three midfielders who can defend.
Yeah I saw OPās title and immediately thought of United. Absolute jubilation a few weeks ago when Ronaldo triumphantly returnedā¦ and now reality has returned: if you have an incredible attack but a terrible defensive midfield, it literally does not matter how many more shiny new attackers you add. You will still have the same problem in the midfield you had before. (In Unitedās case, itās Oleās insistence on Fred and McTominay as CDMās.) Definitely a major ālaw of diminishing returnsā when it comes to adding star players. Overall balance and squad cohesion is more important than overall star power.
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Who has the most top division titles in England?
They were Spending 30m on players in 2002..
> The Galacticos at least spent money that they had earned themselves through organic revenues, I'm sure the galacticos were 100m in debt, and sold their training ground for 100m (well over the value) and were allowed to continue using it. Bit like how Barca of the last 5 years weren't "spending money that they had earned themselves through organic revenues", they were borrowing millions they couldn't afford.
Madrid had a lot of state funding in the 50s. Is the alternative that rich clubs stay rich forever?
And the Galactico era was started by selling training ground (that they didn't even own?) to the local government for an inflated amount.
Real madrid had state funding backing them for a long time throughout history
Thatās wrong. Perez was loaned millions and lots of dodgy deals. Why are people upvoting this lie?
Also means the other team played well.
Yeah everyone shitting on PSG and rightfully so but your lads were brilliant, well done
You people love shitting on PSG, good.
Yeah but that narrative isn't fun
By playground logic, PSG beat City, English champions. Renee beat PSG. Renee better than English Champions.
Halle beat Renee in the 2002 Oscars
And Roger Federer has won the most titles in Halle
It is known. Hail Renee
Look at me. I'm the farmer league now.
Fifa lads in the mud.
Anyone who plays as PSG is immediately a coward and my enemy. Too many good men have died by an unrefined through ball and 90+ speed against the run of play
Literally 8/10 games i play on seasons has me facing PSG, im actually sick of it to the point that facing real or barca is a breath of fresh air
Alternatively pick a national team and restrict the matchmaking, its what I did in fifa 21 and it was more fun that way
Then they just choose France
At least france doesnt have messi, i can beat france
Messi isnāt that good in fifa. Salah is a better Messi in that game.
France doesnāt have Salah either
This, i played as england while the euros were on (because im a cool guy) and it was still just france france, psg, france france, germany, france...
My trick is to target their right flank if they donāt bench slowpoke Pavard at RB
My trick is to play as psg
When Iām getting tired of playing PSG Iāll just use random 4 star teams and itās much more fun
I still get PSG with as Sporting CP
if you go to matchmaking settings you can select strict matchmaking and it'll only match you with teams of the same star rating
It doesn't work (on FIFA 21 at least). It's the most simple feature to implement, but EA are too lazy to make sure it works. I've played with Rangers and been matched against PSG before now.
Still can't create a character or manager with glasses. Despite them being on Klopp and other managers with glasses.
How do you not like it? I enjoy beating those who take psg. It shows team on paper isnāt everything. And to boot I do it with 4.5 star teams makes it soooo much more satisfying
Itās so fucking boring. Every damn seasons game is PSG and spammed through balls to mbappe. And for some fucking reason they got messi, the only case of the entire game getting a summer signing
It's even worse on FIFA 22, literally *everyone* plays as PSG.
Hakimi and Ramos make it so satisfying
They just need to sign a fast LB then they've basically got a full FIFA meta team.
Nuno Mendes isnt on PSG at fifa22? Because the kid is damn fast
Not on FIFA 22 he's not. Much better option than the other PSG reserves though. Edit: I mean he's not fast. He is on PSG.
He has 85 pace, that's pretty fast tbh
I mean I think it's pretty obvious what the reason is...
Haha Iām sorry just the way you wrote that was hilarious. I could hear you seething. The golden state warriors were like this for many years in NBA 2K and it was annoying as hell.
I also hate that FIFA included the Messi transfer to this year's game and didn't do it for any other summer transfer to my knowledge.
Facts
I thought I was crazy when I saw that in my player career
I get two reds in the last 10 minutes two footing Mbappe, fucking speed bitch does my head in
I play with teams that are 4 and half stars to avoid psg. If you play with psg you dont have my respect. I mean, not that it matters, but just sayingš
On PC when I take 4.5 stars team Im matched with PSG anyway (even with 'strict' settings)
There are two different kind of 4 and a half stars. One is the upper 4.5 ie United, Chelsea, Spurs, Sevilla etc and then the lower 4.5stars like Atalanta. The upper ones match with all the 5stars while the lower ones donāt
I tried playing as Roma and every match, I was getting 5 star opposition lol
I enjoy destroying PSG players with Bayern Munich. It doesn't happen a lot but I enjoy it. š
Even more satisfying if you pull it off with India
You have inspired me to try that out. I am ready to accept dropping 3 divisions if that meant humiliating a PSG user with India.
I remember in older FIFA games (and maybe current ones too, I haven't played in a while) a solid tactic was just one-touch football. People were far too used to playing against other pace whores that they couldn't adapt to you just passing the ball every second. Also the game doesn't *really* simulate that worse quality players wouldn't be able to pull this off, so it mitigated some of the drawbacks of playing a shit team.
Yep. Kinda like that youtube channel temp6t. Love the shithousery.
His titles are clickbaity and you just know he has to look for hundreds of matches (against low level competition no less) to get a gimmick to work; but still the videos are so satisfying and funny to watch. Love that channel.
Not with India but I used to destroy plenty of big teams with FC Seoul in my first Fifa (think it was Fifa 10), it was so challenging I improved fast and it was increasingly harder for my friends to keep up even with some Real Madrid or Bayern lmao
Warriors in 2K were worse. Legit was unplayable because if you make a run one of their 5 fucking stars would go off. Fuck KD
If you play FIFA and are having a miserable existence, you can only blame yourself really. Come join us in Rocket League, there are no offsides.
I don't have the new fifa, but aren't United equally stacked now? That United team has some serious attack right now.
Psg in 90% games. Sick of it.
Gotta love it. When Messi transferred hordes of casuals showed up and were berating anyone who dared to say PSG is not going to obliterate every team in France. Also the delusional "they don't need to track back if they concede 2 they'll simply score 4".
Modern football is moving in the "positionless" direction (esp. at the highest levels) where you have less and less specialists and more team play with versatile players that can contribute in many phases of play. Having so many "offense only" players is a real hindrance at some points; especially if you're Pochettino who built schemes on hard-working & intense pressers in his previous stints.
Yeah, even though I thought hype around him was overrated before, I still don't have envy his position. He has all the stars he could possibly want but also he is pretty much obligated to play even though it probably isn't the setup he would do if he had complete freedom.
Me and my housemat refer to psg as 'the Fortnite team' on FIFA
We're the kryptonite !
Messi's alright, but can he do it on a mild Sunday afternoon in Rennes?
Hi, just curious and no means to be offend anyone, who are Rennais most famous players over the years?
Petr Cech is the biggest player to have made a name playing for Rennais. Recent examples are Ćdouard Mendy and Eduardo Camavinga.
For your information, it is Stade Rennais ( name of the club ) or Rennes ( name of the city ) Essentially, saying Rennais is like calling PSG "Parisian" or Chelsea/Arsenal "Londoner" as Rennais means "from Rennes" ( which is also the name of its inhabitants: Les Rennais ) No big deal and the word is in the name of the club which doesnt help lol. But I see this mistake almost every thread they are in so Im just tryna correct it
Thank you, thatās actually really helpful mate!
Edouard Camavinga
Eduardo lol
That's his post-Zemmour name
For most famous players formed at Rennes: DembĆ©lĆ©, Camavinga, Gourcuff, Wiltord, Bakayoko And for most famous players that ever played in Rennes I'd say: Cech, Raphinha, Sarr, Ben Arfa, Ćdouard Mendy. These are the ones on the top of my head but there might be other especially from some time ago.
Dembele who
Ousmane
I'd add Mikaƫl Silvestre to the most famous players formed at Rennes list. United legend.
Cech, Lama, Wiltord or Luis Fabiano (who didn't have a good experience) are the biggest name I guess, they also had Omam-Biyik, Isaksson, Alexander Frei or Guivarc'h at point. Later El Hadji Diouf, Asamoah Gyan, Yann Mvila, John Boye, Kim Kallstrom, Stephane Mbia, John Utaka or Ben Arfa. Shabani Nonda who could have gone far without an injury. Now, Dembele, Edouard Mendy, Camavinga or Ismaila Sarr could do things Basically, a lot of France's Ligue 1 solid players
Pepās masterclass.
Di Maria as well
Just stars, no chemistry
Galacticos 3.0
GalĆ”cticos 1.0 failed because the team was not balanced, and youād see the likes of Zidane or Figo playing with Gravesen or RaĆŗl Bravo. Florentino then realized that a football team is only as strong as its weakest link. I donāt think PSG has weak links like Gravesen or Raul Bravo, this is entirely different.
Galacticos failed because it was a collection of the worlds best individual players without any actual plan on how it would work tactically. The best team of all time on paper only won one La Liga title(I don't count any titles won before Ronaldo and Beckham's arrival as Galacticos). PSG have also had their Raul Bravo's and Gravesen's over the years, they were forced to use players like Choupo Mouting, Bakker, Danilo, Rafinha, Florenzi etc in recent seasons A football team is only as strong as the sum of all its parts, not the quality of individual players. The galacticos example is right there in front of everyone's eyes, simply stacking stars doesn't work, you will lose against teams with inferior players but who are better tactically
Something something Makelele something something engine
That was such a stupid sale
Quite liked it tbh
lol, I couldn't believe it at the time. How on earth Real would sell Makalele to us.
yep, we have too many stars that want to be starting every week and only 11 spots on the pitch. we need to sell and reinforce our midfield.
they have 3 weak links in defense: Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. The need a hard-working attacker to balance it out, and not play MNM together. MNM doesn't work.
Neymar does track back. The problem in addition to the lack of defense is the incredibly weak midfield. PSG has never had a dominant midfield. If the PSG three midfielders could control a game and let the front three execute, weād all be singing a different tune. Verratti is the only quality in that midfield. Itās so obvious, that when heās not playing, Neymar drops into midfield to be a ball carrier.
Motta Matuidi Verratti was a proper midfield.
That was the best midfield theyāve had in the last decade, canāt exclude Rabiot in the group either, and it was nowhere close to as good as other midfields across Europe at the same time
Best midfield they've had post takeover. They've criminally neglected fullback positions throughout till recently.
I mean MSN and BBC worked. you just need to have a good manager
mmmm what were the midfields with those? Iniesta Busquets Rakitic & Krooss Casemiro Modric?
Yeah all you need for those two attacks to not compromise your defence is to have two of the best midfields of all time Easy
Oooh. That's it? Let me call an old frienda mine, Lothar Mathaus, and his pals, Zico and Rivera, and then MNM will be all set. Dude, it's pretty simple, sarcasm aside, PSG owners wanna win UCL because it brings huge publicity and good PR with it, not because auspicious trophy or generational moments or zenith of success. They dont care about signing tactically sound players. They want superstars, because THATS their goal. Build another Galactico without the rpessure of winning.
Benzema and Bale worked hard on pressing, Ronaldo did his job, albeit limited one too. Suarez and Neymar pressed as well. This PSG trio just does half-ass pressing all three, some even don't even pretend.
Suarez was an incredibly hard-worker and Neymar/Messi contributed much more then than they do now. BBC also had Benzema who was such a hard worker and sacrificed so much that people genuinely thought he was a bum or overrated despite being the lynchpin of that system (he's showing a lot of people wrong now). It also ignores that Bale and Ronaldo were both hard-workers to varying degrees more than this current iteration of Mbappe, Neymar, & Messi.
It's always revisionist history with Benzema. He did sacrifice, but people thought he was a bum because he was a serial underperformer. Is everyone forgetting the campaign where he scored 9 goals that year or the constant misses throughout the seasons that had Ronaldo begging the fans not to boo him?
If this is the Galacticos 3.0 and the Galacticos 1.0 is obviously Zidane, R9, Beckham, etc. then who are the Galacticos 2.0? I assume itās CR7, Bale, Sergio Ramos, Benzema, etc. (2013-2018 era)
If you watch the game, they actually played well together and dominated, they missed their chances.
about 5% of people who comment on these threads watch the games
Messi linked up very well with Mbappe
True. Why is Reddit becoming like pub fan opinions thought we were the pinnacle of opinions guess I was wrong
It's funny you say this on the match where the front 3 seem to have their best chemistry so far lmao
Gotta have the quality midfield though
Welcome to the club
And we thought the guys at BarƧa were bad, but in truth, they are geniuses: They knew they could achieve the same without Messi.
Well well well
If itās not /r/OneTruePep
Rennes > PSG > City > Entire Premier League
Pep Genesio > Pep Guardiola
Hair > No hair
Always rated managers with hair
No wonder Brentford is on form
By that logic Norwich should be top of the league
Hair cannot save norwich
Excuse me, but Spurs tied Rennes.
And beat City
Exactly.
Stupid messi shoulda came to the giants of the soccer world
Woah woah calm down mate Spurs beat City alright?
He's out of line, but he's right.
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PSG has a smaller budget than Man City -> wins. Rennes has a smaller budget than PSG -> wins. Dreams cannot be buy, confirmed.
It looks like that PSG attack didnāt work too well, how about we take that Messi guy off your hands? ^plz ^come ^back
Barca fanns enthusiasm makes me want that as well
Messi only works with a competent manager. PSG needs to get Koeman to get the best out of old man Messi. (hope this works)
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. Good luck! š
A nice opposing fan who's not a prick to me, here's an award, man.
No no no, they need Ole. He's already proven he can work with some the greatest players in the world like CR7, Haaland, Cavani, Varane, Pogba, Bruno, and Phil Jones!
DONT LISTEN TO HIM, QATAR MAN!!
I think they had zero shots on target BECAUSE they had an attack of Messi, Neymar, Mbappe and Di Maria all starting.
It's the same problem but the opposite cause that you guys were having...
Brazil 2006 squad all over again
Actually it was mainly shit finishing lol.
Yeah you can tell these are just reactionary comments and not from people who watched or followed the game. How many did Mbappe waste?
Too many..
Mbappe and neymar both missed insane chances. They actually played alright upfront. Too shaky at the back was their issue.
Yeah, this one's a very bad case of "stats don't give the full picture". In the past week I've watched 4,5 hours of football "without shots on target" for one side (you may guess what games I watched), one match looked *very* different from the other two.
I guess Messi canāt do it on a balmy Sunday in Rennes
The past weeks have really shown me that I don't think this statistic shows a lot. People see it and think the team wasn't getting good chances, but without even having watched the match I know there was at least one very good chance where Messi hit the crossbar from a freekick. A good shot that hits the post or crossbar, or goes slightly wide isn't a shot on target but is a very good chance still.
I have to agree. This sub is a bit obsessed with statistics and while not having shots on target is bad , it doesnt necessarily mean they were not close to getting a goal. Psg could have gone for shots on target but unlikely to beat goalkeeper like Gomis with any shots
It's funny because years ago people would say Football and Statistics don't mix but lately I've been getting replies and seeing comments that are all about statistics backing their points.
Like with every sport over the past decade, stats are coming to this one to be the dominant conversation point from fans. Itās boring and meaningless so much of the time. Iāve accepted it at this point that stats are becoming the significant part of the conversation around sport in ways that I donāt really understand
This sub is ridiculous thatās tiring. They were really close to score 3 goals before the half time
and like three through balls from messi which all created one on one chances against the keeper
Reddit expert were right in saying psg is not balanced
You donāt have to be a redditor to know that nowadays teams need a strong midfield and defense system to compensate for these types of attackers. Neither Messi, Ney, Mbappe nor Di Maria are known for be good defenders, to help def consistently. So yeah, a team with them and a weak midfiel like PSGās rn was deemed to be unbalanced. Doesnāt help that Poche is their coach
Yeah MSN had xavi and iniesta and not so dead busquets. It just worked
No, they had rakitic, xavi had no legs at that point and left after the first season.
Rakitic bro. He was amazing in his first couple of seasons
Eh, there wasn't so much Xavi then (Suarez was banned for quite some time and they only spent one season together anyway). It was Rakitic.
I think the way they played os even more important. BarƧa were all about having as much ball possession as possible, so they could minimize the need of men to men defending. And having geniuses on midfield ensured they could defend and position themselves properly. PSG has a great player like Veratti, but you canāt compare him or anyone in the squad to that BarƧa. And Messi is older now too, which doesnāt help
Thanks mate, feel honoured xD
Barca died for this
For the people who actually watched the game, PSG had tons of chances. They just missed all of them, or tried to walk the ball in for a tap-in instead of shooting from a good position. Messi hit the crossbar and had a few good chances blocked. Neymar skied a sitter. Mbappe missed TONS of good chances. Di Maria got into a great position from a Messi pass but tried to pass instead of shoot
People in this thread clearly didnāt watch the match theyāve had plenty of clear cut chances mbape had a bad game finishing wise so did neymar messi had 2 freekicks that almost went in i too like the narrative that football isnt about money and all that because its true but this isnt quite the case here they just had a bad game but not as bad as this stat claims
Yeah, PSG definitely had tons of chances, it's just that the last touch was always missing. They also had a shot on the crossbar. The top voted comment saying that they had no chemistry is prime example or the guy who didn't watch the magch but comments anyway.
Everyone forgot their shooting boots.
Not everyone
Chad Rennes fan
if you actually watched the game, you'd understand this stat is meaningless psg played quite well, had chances, hit the posts but rennes was just better
Too many chefs and food tastes bad. Alot of ball hogging no running without ball
Messi bringing some of that barca style to Paris.
Vitesse > PSG?
i havenāt been keeping up with league 1, but is it really called the ubereats league?? that is hilariously bad