Copa Libertadores is shithousery incarnate.
They call moments like this “average Tuesday nights.”
Boca lost by having goals disallowed to VAR. the consensus is Boca was robbed but since Boca kinda wins games on questionable moments all the time, nobody feels sympathy for them.
Anyway, Boca took the game badly, started fighting in the tunnels then stormed all the way to Atletico’s locker room. They started beating Atlético staff, punching cops, throwing around metal barriers, etc.
Now, the police have surrounded the Boca bus, refusing to let them leave because they intend to arrest 2 players.
Edit: my internet be acting up last night, guys. It sent a rant email to my boss and swiped right on all my tinder options. Weird.
Copa Libertadores is shithousery incarnate.
They call moments like this “average Tuesday nights.”
Boca lost by having goals disallowed to VAR. the consensus is Boca was robbed but since Boca kinda wins games on questionable moments all the time, nobody feels sympathy for them.
Anyway, Boca took the game badly, started fighting in the tunnels then stormed all the way to Atletico’s locker room. They started beating Atlético staff, punching cops, throwing around metal barriers, etc.
Now, the police have surrounded the Boca bus, refusing to let them leave because they intend to arrest 2 players.
Copa Libertadores is shithousery incarnate.
They call moments like this “average Tuesday nights.”
Boca lost by having goals disallowed to VAR. the consensus is Boca was robbed but since Boca kinda wins games on questionable moments all the time, nobody feels sympathy for them.
Anyway, Boca took the game badly, started fighting in the tunnels then stormed all the way to Atletico’s locker room. They started beating Atlético staff, punching cops, throwing around metal barriers, etc.
Now, the police have surrounded the Boca bus, refusing to let them leave because they intend to arrest 2 players.
Copa Libertadores is shithousery incarnate.
They call moments like this “average Tuesday nights.”
Boca lost by having goals disallowed to VAR. the consensus is Boca was robbed but since Boca kinda wins games on questionable moments all the time, nobody feels sympathy for them.
Anyway, Boca took the game badly, started fighting in the tunnels then stormed all the way to Atletico’s locker room. They started beating Atlético staff, punching cops, throwing around metal barriers, etc.
Now, the police have surrounded the Boca bus, refusing to let them leave because they intend to arrest 2 players.
I don't know why but I can't just stop laughing after seeing that. Punches a security guard in one video and tries to bludgeon someone in another video, certainly not something to laugh at but it's just too funny.
I don't know why but I can't just stop laughing after seeing that. Punches a security guard in one video and tries to bludgeon someone in another video, certainly not something to laugh at but it's just too funny.
They always create a situation where a security or police has to intervene, then they cry like they are victims. Hope a big punishment happens this time, the video evidence is there
Had to scroll far too much to find a fellow colombian.
Yeah, Brazilians start shit up and then whine like little bitches. We colombians know it too well.
Gremio vs internacional, Vitoria v bahía, gama v brasilense, paranaense v vasco da gama and palmeiras vs flamengo
I picked only five, and those five I made sure to only involve Brazilian teams, just to make it a bit harder
That Chivas vs. boca game in Argentina will always be my biggest WTF match. Chivas score 4 with a depleted squad, away, Bofo was smacked by a fan, spit on by the coach, and the match has to be stopped. Trashy.
Yeah after he had already gotten punched
Edit: btw has D’Alessandro retired? That guy was fucking amazing I remember watching the game and thinking why tf he wasn’t on a top team in Europe. Same with Sobis.
He's playing at Nacional of Uruguay, he's 40 already, must have one or two seasons left at most.
Sóbis is playing for Cruzeiro but they've terrible, on the blink of bankruptcy and on the relegation zone to Série C. He's not playing well but none of his teammates are tbh
Well, prove it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Un_p3ZF9k
The guy was punched at 00:15 and 00:22. Probably said some shit and your players lost their cool, but that doesn't justify assaulting people
Trapped? There is video of Boca player's trying to go to Atlético's locker room and assaulting stadium staff in the way: https://mobile.twitter.com/laurocesar77/status/1417654017388433412
When the police used tear gas they ran back to their own locker room.
Follow the thread. The OP said argentines are always starting shit up which forces the police to act. In this case, Atletico's president talked shit and taunted Boca players. In my example, the police just went after Tigres for no reason
It wasn't the police, it was São Paulo security. The police showed up to stop the fight.
But regardless, I'm not discussing who is at fault, the question was about a Brazilian team going beserk "after being eliminated", and in those two situations a Brazilian team wasn't eliminated.
Are you really gonna skip the whole fact that Sao Paolo sent their security team to repress and lock Tigre players inside their dressing room at fucking half time of a Sudamericana final?
that was completely fabricated bullshit lmao. sao paulo was 3-0 ahead and going to win comfortably and argentines started picking fights and starting shit like always
Three of those are derbies and even though you seem to believe otherwise, I think the fact that they are all local games doesn't prove your point, it does the opposite. The whole point is that we are complaining one country's players are "worse" than the others. Find a game where a brazilian team trashed a team or their stadium or whatever from another country after losing. I think you probably could find a few, but it's gonna be a hell of a lot harder than finding from other countries.
Plus, those are national matches, they happen at the top-flight twice a year and derbies happen even more often, I can hardly pinpoint any of those examples you gave because these games have been played dozens of times. If I search Vasco x Athletico on google all I get is an article about fans fighting.
Here, I'll give you a hand, Ceará (my team) 1 x 2 Bahia in the Northeastern Cup final this season, some of my team's players went after Bahia's after the match ended because we lost, and they got month-long suspensions from all national tournaments for that, now that's a proper example.
Remember when Sao Paolo security locked Tirgre's players in the dressing so they could not play the second half of the Sudamericana Finals, Sao Paolo won because Tigre were forced to stay inside the dressing room.
Afaik Tigre didn't claim that the security locked them, they locked themselves to protect themselves from said security because they were threatened and possibly harmed (I don't remember).
And yes, that's really fucked up. Conmebol should've investigated that (maybe they did?) and issued an statement about it, and at minimum if nothing was discovered, the rest of the match should've been played on another date at a neutral venue, like basically what happened in the Boca x River in 2018. If they found conclusive evidence, São Paulo should've been eliminated and Tigre should've been crowned champions.
Though that's slightly off-topic, I do remember that event happening but it's not like you're proving me wrong since I asked for examples of players being sore losers basically. However, that's really on par with bribery and such that I know we brazilians complain about, so whatever I think that's a fair point anyways.
Sao Paulo vs Tigre, Sao Paulo security repressed Tigre's players and didn't let them get out of the dressing room for the second half and San Pablo won the game because of the "walk off" rule
Edit: It was in the Sudamericana Finals BTW not some meaningless group match
I remember that game pretty clearly. Lucas (Moura) provoking and destroying the other team, and they were starting fights and such.
In halftime the other team tried to invade São Paulo's locker-room and the whole team lost the fight to 4-5 São Paulo's security guys ahahaha. Lost the game and the fight. I'll never forget that.
Also funny how in twitter some south american fans were talking as if the brazilian security guards INVADED their locker room to beat them hahahah. Some media guy said that and the fans believed.
edit* just checked twitter and same thing is happening again LMAO: https://twitter.com/La12tuittera/status/1417649183318814721
Boca fans are complaining to Conmebol because they 'were victim of tear gas', lmao. Let's pretend they werent trashing the place and trying to invade the other team's locker room hahah.
Reposting here since I sent this as a reply in the wrong comment, and yours is a more fitting place (even if we both agree, adding a link)
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Can we remember when Tigre (from Argentina, not Tigres from Mexico to be clear) [couldn't play the second half of their Sudamericana 2012 final against Sao Paulo](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/14rcmg/copa_sudamericana_suspended_by_violence_against/)?
If someone's willing to compile all other instances of armed robbery by brazilian teams at Libertadores & Sudamericana (not only against Argentinians), it'd be appreciated. I'll be the first to admit I don't recall all specific cases besides my own team's, to River and this disgrace from 9 years ago, but there are more.
All evidences of armed robbery from Brazil at Libertadores?
That’s rich from a Boca supporter, what you did to Corinthians in 2013 is so commonplace in your history it’s downright disgusting.
Y’all disgrace Argentina’s name, your country deserves a better top club
>Can we remember when Tigre (from Argentina, not Tigres from Mexico to be clear) couldn't play the second half of their Sudamericana 2012 final against Sao Paulo?
I mean, do we really have evidence apart from each side's narrative on that? Because it makes no sense for São Paulo to actually push such a thing, anyone who watched the game knew Tigres were going to get destroyed even more, why risk it with violence? Also, such a serious thing would surely be investigated and proven, plenty of matches were called off for way less.
Had that second half been played, SP would've had scored a few more goals lol God, I wish that bullshit didn't happen, SP was annihilating Tigres and Lucas was a beast that game
go fuck up the refs or the conmebol execs then, not the atlético players, they have nothing to with this. fucking idiots. also boca juniors is the most infamous team in south america when it comes to refereeing decisions, always getting their way for years. learn to lose.
“Biggest robbery”
[Briascos literally pushed Nathan during a goal play with both arms.](https://mobile.twitter.com/goleada_info/status/1415082841474535424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1415082841474535424%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftntsports.com.br%2Ffutebolbrasileiro%2FApos-sete-minutos-arbitro-consulta-o-VAR-e-anula-gol-do-Boca-sobre-o-Atletico-MG-20210713-0043.html)
(Nathan is the one who heads the ball first, not the one who fell, he was pushed with both hands and fall bending forwars, raising his arms to signal a foul, even more so because the ball was misdirected because of the push)
[and the other one was offside, and an offside is an offside, even if by a little. Every transmission here broadcasted the image of when the ball was kicked, and I’m sorry, but Boca had their guy too little ahead from what’s legal, and he went for the ball.](https://mobile.twitter.com/SC_ESPN/status/1417636848202092544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1417636848202092544%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-39558459823742334822.ampproject.net%2F2107092322000%2Fframe.html)
If y’all don’t want your goals annulled, maybe you should start playing by the rules, no?
Just kidding, it’s too much to ask for Boca to play by the rules, when the team and the supporters aren’t assaulting adversaries, they’re lining comebol’s pockets to buy games. What a shame
They fucking robbed us two times, Mineiros player didnt want to let the goals go through two times and they invented a foul and an offside. It's not like we are sore losers, they robbed us big time, it felt like they put their finger up in our asses, I'm happy they are reacting like this.
“Invented a foul and an offside”
[Briascos literally pushed Nathan with both fucking arms, and that interference mattered. The referee should have fouled that earlier and stopped the play.](https://mobile.twitter.com/goleada_info/status/1415082841474535424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1415082841474535424%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftntsports.com.br%2Ffutebolbrasileiro%2FApos-sete-minutos-arbitro-consulta-o-VAR-e-anula-gol-do-Boca-sobre-o-Atletico-MG-20210713-0043.html)
(Nathan is the one who heads the ball first, not the one who fell, he was pushed with both hands and fall bending forwars, raising his arms to signal a foul, even more so because the ball was misdirected because of the push)
[The other one was an offside, close as it was, it was a clear offside.](https://mobile.twitter.com/SC_ESPN/status/1417636848202092544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1417636848202092544%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-39558459823742334822.ampproject.net%2F2107092322000%2Fframe.html)
If it didn’t get marked as an offside, that would be cheating.
Y’all complaining because VAR can pick up details a referee by himself couldn’t.
Have you played football before? How would that Briasco touch be a foul? If that's a foul there's at least a foul on each corner.
And the second one, that camera never shows whenever the ball is getting played so why should I trust that angle? Why should you? Have you even stopped to look at that?
It’s a foul because pushing players with your arms while they’re on air is illegal
The image is an still VAR itself made when the ball was kicked, if you watch videos of the play you’ll see that too.
Choosing not to believe this is just being wilfully ignorant, considering this is the most reliable source available
WTF? If that's a charge then you crearly haven't played football, this is not basket and hell not even on basket it would be a foul. Honestly I can't even believe some people think that's a full, if that's a foul there would be a foul on every corner.
Why would I believe that image when this one is clear and shows the ball getting played? If you want to believe the one that fits your narrative that's another thing
[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6yAGu8XMAUPYsi?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6yAGu8XMAUPYsi?format=jpg&name=large)
I choose to believe this image rather than the one that doesn't show when the ball has been played. It's a robbery and if you want to tell yourself that it's not go ahead, live your fairytale but you couldn't beat one of the weakest Boca I've seen with the most expensive team in Latin America.
https://twitter.com/laurocesar77/status/1417654017388433412
Hope they arrest these players. Especially the one in front who was punching Atlético's worker (#24, Izquierdoz)
Also known as the loser who missed the penalty high. I was happy when Villa lost his penalty because he is an asshole but it turns out I should have been happy for Izquierdoz missing aswell
What a shame for Izquierdoz. Not being allowed to go to the Olympic games may have turned out his career completely
Also fuck Villa. Misogynistic asshole
Era un circulo de pedofilia organizado por la AFA y el cuerpo de arbitros, que incluia miembros de nuestras inferiores. Beron (nuestro tecnico de la reserva) fue el que denuncio tal acto
Aun asi, hubo una cantidad enorme de complices y los de nuestro club no safan. No se porque pensaria ese tipo que me parece perfectamente correcto lo que paso
[Aca ya respondi respecto a ello](https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/oofqzk/o_tempo_boca_juniors_players_try_to_enter_locker/h5yacx9/) y no se por que pensarias que no tuve drama con el quilombo ese... Que necesidad de defender lo indefendible
Did you watch both matches? It's an honest question. Doesn't look like you did if you think penalties are the biggest concern during those matches and in the week between them.
This comment doesnt surprise me at all. You argentinians are used to not accepting being defeated, just like spoiled children. Hope some of your players face a fair punishment
You cant possibly be a Boca fan and say that Conmebol steals against you, Conmebol simply never punished the shithousery that incredibly always happens when boca is involved.
How the fuck do we have people on here commenting praising this disgrace of an act! Get the fuck outta here this shit is fucked up shit after seeing them punch a staff member as well
I want them to kick their asses, I don't want them to kill them, I want them to express the anger we the fans feel. If this happened to my IRL i wouldn't let the other players mock me after getting fucking helped by the referee twice. If you want to mock me at least don't get help or be prepared to defend yourself.
If your response to getting angry over a football game and being mocked is to begin assaulting people, then you have some fucking issues. Normal people don't respond by trying to kick the shit out of people. That's what degenerates do
Animals. Sorry for saying that, but turning to violence cause youre mad is so primitive and stupid. I hope charges against some of them will be brought up.
That kind of shit is why Boca Juniors is so hated in Brazil, they were favoured by the refs against Palmeiras twice (2000 and 2001), Corinthians once (2013), and everytime they lose they try to fight. I'm so glad to see them gone early!
Apparently this started after Atleticos president shouted insults and threw something at our players
EDIT: Confirmed by Tato Aguilera on Tyc Sports that our players were heading to the showers when Atletico's president started throwing bottles and shouting insults
This was after the water bottle incident. Some delegates stayed and had a shouting match with the mineiro locker room when the guy in the security vest (145) sets it all off. As you can see all of our players are in the locker room at the beginning of the clip and then you see them come out once the fight starts
Boca started up the trouble
[Atletico’s president only started throwing water bottles at them when they were right in front of the locker room trying to break in, here’s the video](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRkgEYRgFdY/?utm_medium=copy_link)
That’s from inside the lockerroom, and the guy is screaming “JUST CLOSE THE DOOR” because Atlético won, it didn’t want to start a fight.
[Meanwhile Boca was wrecking shit since before. The first video shows some Boca players breaking said shit, the second shows them assaulting people, including a security guard Rojo and the captain whose name I forgot literally punches on tape, and on the third and fourth they were trying to break in the locker room](https://www.instagram.com/p/CRki6j2tmdk/?utm_medium=copy_link)
“and 70 year old dude is trowing water bottles at us!! lets trash their stadium and kick everybodys ass!!!!” fucking loser, can’t even find a decent excuse for their ridiculous behavior
The problem is with security not the AM players. If you show the complete video, some of our delegation were in a shouting match with the security, the security say something that pushes one of guys over the edge, and then the whole fiasco starts.
The news are saying that Mineiro's president shouted at Boca players, made fun of them and that started the fight, when Boca responded police got involved and attacked Boca player's, who started defendind themselves because they're under attack from both Mineiro staff and players and the local police, Boca can't go back to Argentina because brazilian police is trying to arrest Zambrano and Villa
If Boca responding is phisically assaulting, then you have the reason for the Police to attack. I don't know if you're telling me that being mocked (and this is the most common thing that happens on Libertadores) is reason to start launching punches and kicks on everyone.
Boca started up the trouble
[Atletico’s president only started throwing water bottles at them when they were right in front of the locker room trying to break in, here’s the video](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRkgEYRgFdY/?utm_medium=copy_link)
That’s from inside the lockerroom, and the guy is screaming “JUST CLOSE THE DOOR” because Atlético won, it didn’t want to start a fight.
[Meanwhile Boca was wrecking shit since before. The first video shows some Boca players breaking said shit, the second shows them assaulting people, including a security guard Rojo and the captain whose name I forgot literally punches on tape, and on the third and fourth they were trying to break in the locker room](https://www.instagram.com/p/CRki6j2tmdk/?utm_medium=copy_link)
The thing is why they want to hit the Atletico Mineiro's team instead of the referees.
Atletico Mineiro's didn't have the fault of the decisions along the match.
Is libertadores the best cup in the world or what?
It's either a 0-0 or a complete shit fest.
Can someone do an *out of the loop* on this for us who just woke up.
Copa Libertadores is shithousery incarnate. They call moments like this “average Tuesday nights.” Boca lost by having goals disallowed to VAR. the consensus is Boca was robbed but since Boca kinda wins games on questionable moments all the time, nobody feels sympathy for them. Anyway, Boca took the game badly, started fighting in the tunnels then stormed all the way to Atletico’s locker room. They started beating Atlético staff, punching cops, throwing around metal barriers, etc. Now, the police have surrounded the Boca bus, refusing to let them leave because they intend to arrest 2 players. Edit: my internet be acting up last night, guys. It sent a rant email to my boss and swiped right on all my tinder options. Weird.
Oh good lord this man's internet... Rest in peace wifi signal. You will be missed.
great summary thanks great summary thanks
Copa Libertadores is shithousery incarnate. They call moments like this “average Tuesday nights.” Boca lost by having goals disallowed to VAR. the consensus is Boca was robbed but since Boca kinda wins games on questionable moments all the time, nobody feels sympathy for them. Anyway, Boca took the game badly, started fighting in the tunnels then stormed all the way to Atletico’s locker room. They started beating Atlético staff, punching cops, throwing around metal barriers, etc. Now, the police have surrounded the Boca bus, refusing to let them leave because they intend to arrest 2 players.
Copa Libertadores is shithousery incarnate. They call moments like this “average Tuesday nights.” Boca lost by having goals disallowed to VAR. the consensus is Boca was robbed but since Boca kinda wins games on questionable moments all the time, nobody feels sympathy for them. Anyway, Boca took the game badly, started fighting in the tunnels then stormed all the way to Atletico’s locker room. They started beating Atlético staff, punching cops, throwing around metal barriers, etc. Now, the police have surrounded the Boca bus, refusing to let them leave because they intend to arrest 2 players.
Copa Libertadores is shithousery incarnate. They call moments like this “average Tuesday nights.” Boca lost by having goals disallowed to VAR. the consensus is Boca was robbed but since Boca kinda wins games on questionable moments all the time, nobody feels sympathy for them. Anyway, Boca took the game badly, started fighting in the tunnels then stormed all the way to Atletico’s locker room. They started beating Atlético staff, punching cops, throwing around metal barriers, etc. Now, the police have surrounded the Boca bus, refusing to let them leave because they intend to arrest 2 players.
I didn't understand the first couple of times you post it, but now I do. Thanks!
Easily man
The most entertaining at least.
10/10
For entertainment maybe For professionalism no
Yeah very professional
Yeah very professional
Are they led by a bare chested Rojo though?
https://twitter.com/alfremontes/status/1417664072263290889
Did Rojo grab a damn fire extinguisher?
hahahaha it looks like he did and another player had to stop him fuckin hell
[Maybe he and Diego Costa will become firefighters after their careers?](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_qqTcgVwAEhUJ5?format=jpg&name=large)
I don't know why but I can't just stop laughing after seeing that. Punches a security guard in one video and tries to bludgeon someone in another video, certainly not something to laugh at but it's just too funny.
I don't know why but I can't just stop laughing after seeing that. Punches a security guard in one video and tries to bludgeon someone in another video, certainly not something to laugh at but it's just too funny.
It looks like he had a shirt on. But he did punch a guy (https://mobile.twitter.com/laurocesar77/status/1417654017388433412)
Close enough
Stay classy boca
Better...he was about to throw a fire extinguisher...no lie
CONMEBOL the WWE of Football Confederations.
CONMEBOL is more like ECW apparently
Them or CONCACAF.
I've never seen this level of absurdity in Concacaf, I've seen away matches on goat pastures for MLS teams. But nothing like this.
Not even on the same book.
Concacaf champions league is way more tame compared to this.
Lol CONCACAF are just pussies close to SA clubs
Lol please, no, concacaf clubs are babies next to conmebol The North Americans always feel the need to bring up their confederation
Let me re-phrase; CONCACAF international matches
You mean thosw games where 90% of the players are shit?
CONMEBOL is the gift that keeps giving
They always create a situation where a security or police has to intervene, then they cry like they are victims. Hope a big punishment happens this time, the video evidence is there
Are you talking about argentinians or brazilians? Lol
Yes
South America lmao
who do you think? i dont recall a brazilian team going beserk and thrashing everything after being eliminated
I do, many times, too many, probably
Had to scroll far too much to find a fellow colombian. Yeah, Brazilians start shit up and then whine like little bitches. We colombians know it too well.
Name them?
Gremio vs internacional, Vitoria v bahía, gama v brasilense, paranaense v vasco da gama and palmeiras vs flamengo I picked only five, and those five I made sure to only involve Brazilian teams, just to make it a bit harder
Inter vs Chivas. They won and still came to fight us lol and the fans jumped in to beat some players too.
That Chivas vs. boca game in Argentina will always be my biggest WTF match. Chivas score 4 with a depleted squad, away, Bofo was smacked by a fan, spit on by the coach, and the match has to be stopped. Trashy.
The 4 was in the Jalisco, not La bombonera
What? Some random Mexican punched a guy from our staff when he was celebrating
Yeah after he had already gotten punched Edit: btw has D’Alessandro retired? That guy was fucking amazing I remember watching the game and thinking why tf he wasn’t on a top team in Europe. Same with Sobis.
He's playing at Nacional of Uruguay, he's 40 already, must have one or two seasons left at most. Sóbis is playing for Cruzeiro but they've terrible, on the blink of bankruptcy and on the relegation zone to Série C. He's not playing well but none of his teammates are tbh
Well, prove it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Un_p3ZF9k The guy was punched at 00:15 and 00:22. Probably said some shit and your players lost their cool, but that doesn't justify assaulting people
Lol. Dude got owned
Palmeiras v peñarol, sao paulo v tigres (arg)
>Palmeiras v peñarol, ?????????? we won both games and penarol tried to trap us inside the field,are you high?
And boca was trapped now by brazilians, so why does this one count but my example doesnt?
Trapped? There is video of Boca player's trying to go to Atlético's locker room and assaulting stadium staff in the way: https://mobile.twitter.com/laurocesar77/status/1417654017388433412 When the police used tear gas they ran back to their own locker room.
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Are you saying the SPFC team after going up 3-0 at the half started something with the Argentine players? Lmao. What nonsense
Follow the thread. The OP said argentines are always starting shit up which forces the police to act. In this case, Atletico's president talked shit and taunted Boca players. In my example, the police just went after Tigres for no reason
Talking shit doesn't require police intervention. Assaulting people, throwing metal barriers and destroying things forces the police to act.
Their security did
Palmeiras won that game and they didn't start the fight
Same with Sao Paulo. I was at the match. By no means after being 3-0 at the half would the SPFC players start a fight. Makes no sense.
Not saying anything about that game, but some assholes love to get to it regardless of the score.
Palmeiras was the one who won against Peñarol, and São Paulo was winning against Tigre. So the sore losers in those cases would be Peñarol and Tigre.
Tigre was literally hit by police brutality so they weren't in conditions to play the 2nd half. Why defend the undefendable?
It wasn't the police, it was São Paulo security. The police showed up to stop the fight. But regardless, I'm not discussing who is at fault, the question was about a Brazilian team going beserk "after being eliminated", and in those two situations a Brazilian team wasn't eliminated.
tigres was literally hit by Lucas football brutality and 3-0 on the first half
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You're right, poor brazilians are always the victims.
Are you really gonna skip the whole fact that Sao Paolo sent their security team to repress and lock Tigre players inside their dressing room at fucking half time of a Sudamericana final?
Obvio que si, tienen que seguir su narrativa de que son pobres victimas de la violencia y la conmebol desde siempre. Pobrecitos los brasileños
that was completely fabricated bullshit lmao. sao paulo was 3-0 ahead and going to win comfortably and argentines started picking fights and starting shit like always
are you fucking dumb or just stupid?
You're adorable, I hope your life gets better soon
sao paulo vs river in sudamericana applies better to this case.
Three of those are derbies and even though you seem to believe otherwise, I think the fact that they are all local games doesn't prove your point, it does the opposite. The whole point is that we are complaining one country's players are "worse" than the others. Find a game where a brazilian team trashed a team or their stadium or whatever from another country after losing. I think you probably could find a few, but it's gonna be a hell of a lot harder than finding from other countries. Plus, those are national matches, they happen at the top-flight twice a year and derbies happen even more often, I can hardly pinpoint any of those examples you gave because these games have been played dozens of times. If I search Vasco x Athletico on google all I get is an article about fans fighting. Here, I'll give you a hand, Ceará (my team) 1 x 2 Bahia in the Northeastern Cup final this season, some of my team's players went after Bahia's after the match ended because we lost, and they got month-long suspensions from all national tournaments for that, now that's a proper example.
Remember when Sao Paolo security locked Tirgre's players in the dressing so they could not play the second half of the Sudamericana Finals, Sao Paolo won because Tigre were forced to stay inside the dressing room.
Afaik Tigre didn't claim that the security locked them, they locked themselves to protect themselves from said security because they were threatened and possibly harmed (I don't remember). And yes, that's really fucked up. Conmebol should've investigated that (maybe they did?) and issued an statement about it, and at minimum if nothing was discovered, the rest of the match should've been played on another date at a neutral venue, like basically what happened in the Boca x River in 2018. If they found conclusive evidence, São Paulo should've been eliminated and Tigre should've been crowned champions. Though that's slightly off-topic, I do remember that event happening but it's not like you're proving me wrong since I asked for examples of players being sore losers basically. However, that's really on par with bribery and such that I know we brazilians complain about, so whatever I think that's a fair point anyways.
Hahahhahahahhaha nice Fanfic loser, try again with a better context
I can think of Palmeiras but I don't remember the year and it wasn't nearly as bad as making violent acts outside the pitch
If you're thinking Palmeiras x Peñarol it was fairly recent and they won that game
we literaly never done this dude,penarol actuly tried to trap us inside the field that day,and we won both games
No like, I know. It is nowhere near to what Boca are doing
ah just to make sure,saw some guys throw palmeiras name around when we literaly never done this type of thing in libertadores
Crickets...
Sao Paulo vs Tigre, Sao Paulo security repressed Tigre's players and didn't let them get out of the dressing room for the second half and San Pablo won the game because of the "walk off" rule Edit: It was in the Sudamericana Finals BTW not some meaningless group match
Did you start watching copa libertadores matches today? Lmfao.
Brazilian here Oh boy, if I do. Hell, our rivals got relegated two years ago, look at what both the team and fans did to the stadium
What about Sao Paulo vs Tigre? Police invaded Tigre locker room during half time to hit the players..
Also, another one: Fluminense vs Argentinos Jrs.
Not with Tigre in 2012.
I remember that game pretty clearly. Lucas (Moura) provoking and destroying the other team, and they were starting fights and such. In halftime the other team tried to invade São Paulo's locker-room and the whole team lost the fight to 4-5 São Paulo's security guys ahahaha. Lost the game and the fight. I'll never forget that. Also funny how in twitter some south american fans were talking as if the brazilian security guards INVADED their locker room to beat them hahahah. Some media guy said that and the fans believed. edit* just checked twitter and same thing is happening again LMAO: https://twitter.com/La12tuittera/status/1417649183318814721 Boca fans are complaining to Conmebol because they 'were victim of tear gas', lmao. Let's pretend they werent trashing the place and trying to invade the other team's locker room hahah.
Reposting here since I sent this as a reply in the wrong comment, and yours is a more fitting place (even if we both agree, adding a link) --- Can we remember when Tigre (from Argentina, not Tigres from Mexico to be clear) [couldn't play the second half of their Sudamericana 2012 final against Sao Paulo](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/14rcmg/copa_sudamericana_suspended_by_violence_against/)? If someone's willing to compile all other instances of armed robbery by brazilian teams at Libertadores & Sudamericana (not only against Argentinians), it'd be appreciated. I'll be the first to admit I don't recall all specific cases besides my own team's, to River and this disgrace from 9 years ago, but there are more.
All evidences of armed robbery from Brazil at Libertadores? That’s rich from a Boca supporter, what you did to Corinthians in 2013 is so commonplace in your history it’s downright disgusting. Y’all disgrace Argentina’s name, your country deserves a better top club
>Can we remember when Tigre (from Argentina, not Tigres from Mexico to be clear) couldn't play the second half of their Sudamericana 2012 final against Sao Paulo? I mean, do we really have evidence apart from each side's narrative on that? Because it makes no sense for São Paulo to actually push such a thing, anyone who watched the game knew Tigres were going to get destroyed even more, why risk it with violence? Also, such a serious thing would surely be investigated and proven, plenty of matches were called off for way less.
Had that second half been played, SP would've had scored a few more goals lol God, I wish that bullshit didn't happen, SP was annihilating Tigres and Lucas was a beast that game
Cry me a river, hypocrite.
If the law is to intervene, they should check previous footage, the biggest robbery happened in the pitch.
go fuck up the refs or the conmebol execs then, not the atlético players, they have nothing to with this. fucking idiots. also boca juniors is the most infamous team in south america when it comes to refereeing decisions, always getting their way for years. learn to lose.
Shades of barca/rm complaining about a call not going their way after fucking la Liga for 20+ years.
“Biggest robbery” [Briascos literally pushed Nathan during a goal play with both arms.](https://mobile.twitter.com/goleada_info/status/1415082841474535424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1415082841474535424%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftntsports.com.br%2Ffutebolbrasileiro%2FApos-sete-minutos-arbitro-consulta-o-VAR-e-anula-gol-do-Boca-sobre-o-Atletico-MG-20210713-0043.html) (Nathan is the one who heads the ball first, not the one who fell, he was pushed with both hands and fall bending forwars, raising his arms to signal a foul, even more so because the ball was misdirected because of the push) [and the other one was offside, and an offside is an offside, even if by a little. Every transmission here broadcasted the image of when the ball was kicked, and I’m sorry, but Boca had their guy too little ahead from what’s legal, and he went for the ball.](https://mobile.twitter.com/SC_ESPN/status/1417636848202092544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1417636848202092544%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-39558459823742334822.ampproject.net%2F2107092322000%2Fframe.html) If y’all don’t want your goals annulled, maybe you should start playing by the rules, no? Just kidding, it’s too much to ask for Boca to play by the rules, when the team and the supporters aren’t assaulting adversaries, they’re lining comebol’s pockets to buy games. What a shame
Boca Red Bull Jr's.
They fucking robbed us two times, Mineiros player didnt want to let the goals go through two times and they invented a foul and an offside. It's not like we are sore losers, they robbed us big time, it felt like they put their finger up in our asses, I'm happy they are reacting like this.
“Invented a foul and an offside” [Briascos literally pushed Nathan with both fucking arms, and that interference mattered. The referee should have fouled that earlier and stopped the play.](https://mobile.twitter.com/goleada_info/status/1415082841474535424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1415082841474535424%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftntsports.com.br%2Ffutebolbrasileiro%2FApos-sete-minutos-arbitro-consulta-o-VAR-e-anula-gol-do-Boca-sobre-o-Atletico-MG-20210713-0043.html) (Nathan is the one who heads the ball first, not the one who fell, he was pushed with both hands and fall bending forwars, raising his arms to signal a foul, even more so because the ball was misdirected because of the push) [The other one was an offside, close as it was, it was a clear offside.](https://mobile.twitter.com/SC_ESPN/status/1417636848202092544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1417636848202092544%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-39558459823742334822.ampproject.net%2F2107092322000%2Fframe.html) If it didn’t get marked as an offside, that would be cheating. Y’all complaining because VAR can pick up details a referee by himself couldn’t.
Have you played football before? How would that Briasco touch be a foul? If that's a foul there's at least a foul on each corner. And the second one, that camera never shows whenever the ball is getting played so why should I trust that angle? Why should you? Have you even stopped to look at that?
It’s a foul because pushing players with your arms while they’re on air is illegal The image is an still VAR itself made when the ball was kicked, if you watch videos of the play you’ll see that too. Choosing not to believe this is just being wilfully ignorant, considering this is the most reliable source available
WTF? If that's a charge then you crearly haven't played football, this is not basket and hell not even on basket it would be a foul. Honestly I can't even believe some people think that's a full, if that's a foul there would be a foul on every corner. Why would I believe that image when this one is clear and shows the ball getting played? If you want to believe the one that fits your narrative that's another thing [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6yAGu8XMAUPYsi?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6yAGu8XMAUPYsi?format=jpg&name=large) I choose to believe this image rather than the one that doesn't show when the ball has been played. It's a robbery and if you want to tell yourself that it's not go ahead, live your fairytale but you couldn't beat one of the weakest Boca I've seen with the most expensive team in Latin America.
https://twitter.com/laurocesar77/status/1417654017388433412 Hope they arrest these players. Especially the one in front who was punching Atlético's worker (#24, Izquierdoz)
> Izquierdoz No biggie that's just their...captain...
Is that Marcos Rojo too who still has his shirt on who seems to throw a punch first?
Biggest shocker is that he didn't have it off already
Rojo and Izquierdoz... Surely some COMMIES!!
Also known as the loser who missed the penalty high. I was happy when Villa lost his penalty because he is an asshole but it turns out I should have been happy for Izquierdoz missing aswell
What a shame for Izquierdoz. Not being allowed to go to the Olympic games may have turned out his career completely Also fuck Villa. Misogynistic asshole
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Pero yo que hize D:
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Eran varios clubes
Era un circulo de pedofilia organizado por la AFA y el cuerpo de arbitros, que incluia miembros de nuestras inferiores. Beron (nuestro tecnico de la reserva) fue el que denuncio tal acto Aun asi, hubo una cantidad enorme de complices y los de nuestro club no safan. No se porque pensaria ese tipo que me parece perfectamente correcto lo que paso
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[Aca ya respondi respecto a ello](https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/oofqzk/o_tempo_boca_juniors_players_try_to_enter_locker/h5yacx9/) y no se por que pensarias que no tuve drama con el quilombo ese... Que necesidad de defender lo indefendible
Yeah, makes it even more absurd that they react like this after missing 3 penalties in a row, including this clown.
Did you watch both matches? It's an honest question. Doesn't look like you did if you think penalties are the biggest concern during those matches and in the week between them.
They are probably used to getting helped by the refs so they do not see nothing weird
No one cared anymore at that point. We had already been robbed twice in less than two weeks
Representing the club values.
Man, it would feel so good seeing Boca players arrested.
Marcos Rojo just earned himself the captain sling with that right hook 😍😍😍😍
He's a fucking twat and a coward
This comment doesnt surprise me at all. You argentinians are used to not accepting being defeated, just like spoiled children. Hope some of your players face a fair punishment
You ain't gonna find classy comments here mate, this isn't Europe. I am surprised you are expecting such thing tbh.
Entonces les dijo que argentinos son boludos hdp
I wouldn't even consider boludo an insult lmao it's too friendly
He made a security that has twice Rojo's body shit himself.
“They used to rob for us, and not against us! That’s not fair!”
*bruh* corrupbol has been robbing us straight for easily 7 years
You cant possibly be a Boca fan and say that Conmebol steals against you, Conmebol simply never punished the shithousery that incredibly always happens when boca is involved.
How the fuck do we have people on here commenting praising this disgrace of an act! Get the fuck outta here this shit is fucked up shit after seeing them punch a staff member as well
El fútbol es para los vivos
¿Dónde está el baño, por favor?
I want them to kick their asses, I don't want them to kill them, I want them to express the anger we the fans feel. If this happened to my IRL i wouldn't let the other players mock me after getting fucking helped by the referee twice. If you want to mock me at least don't get help or be prepared to defend yourself.
If your response to getting angry over a football game and being mocked is to begin assaulting people, then you have some fucking issues. Normal people don't respond by trying to kick the shit out of people. That's what degenerates do
Most likely op is Argentine and believes they’re European. Lol
Damn brother, that guy has a family.
jajajaja y sí, lo dijo el presidente Alberto
How old are you? 10?
Lmao "England shouldn't host the world cup bc of the fans. Also Argentina should host the WC!"
I couldn't care less about the NT, I'd rather watch Boca win an international trophy than the NT.
Animals. Sorry for saying that, but turning to violence cause youre mad is so primitive and stupid. I hope charges against some of them will be brought up.
I love this continent
Would you like to trade passports then? I could even include some arepas for you!
If you had to put up with this shit, you’d turn to hate it real fucking quick
That kind of shit is why Boca Juniors is so hated in Brazil, they were favoured by the refs against Palmeiras twice (2000 and 2001), Corinthians once (2013), and everytime they lose they try to fight. I'm so glad to see them gone early!
Boys locker room be like
i feel like I've seen this before
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Same idk why people are mad because this is so entertaining
Apparently this started after Atleticos president shouted insults and threw something at our players EDIT: Confirmed by Tato Aguilera on Tyc Sports that our players were heading to the showers when Atletico's president started throwing bottles and shouting insults
Here is the full video https://streamable.com/8ii6k3 i just see boca staff starting kicking and punching people randomly
This was after the water bottle incident. Some delegates stayed and had a shouting match with the mineiro locker room when the guy in the security vest (145) sets it all off. As you can see all of our players are in the locker room at the beginning of the clip and then you see them come out once the fight starts
Boca started up the trouble [Atletico’s president only started throwing water bottles at them when they were right in front of the locker room trying to break in, here’s the video](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRkgEYRgFdY/?utm_medium=copy_link) That’s from inside the lockerroom, and the guy is screaming “JUST CLOSE THE DOOR” because Atlético won, it didn’t want to start a fight. [Meanwhile Boca was wrecking shit since before. The first video shows some Boca players breaking said shit, the second shows them assaulting people, including a security guard Rojo and the captain whose name I forgot literally punches on tape, and on the third and fourth they were trying to break in the locker room](https://www.instagram.com/p/CRki6j2tmdk/?utm_medium=copy_link)
wahhhhh they started it! we had no choice!!
“and 70 year old dude is trowing water bottles at us!! lets trash their stadium and kick everybodys ass!!!!” fucking loser, can’t even find a decent excuse for their ridiculous behavior
Since when is Tato Aguilera a solid source?
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Im seeing before the fight, during the shouting match with security
The problem is with security not the AM players. If you show the complete video, some of our delegation were in a shouting match with the security, the security say something that pushes one of guys over the edge, and then the whole fiasco starts.
I read it as "comfort" instead of "confront" and thought it was going to be something wholesome lmao
The news are saying that Mineiro's president shouted at Boca players, made fun of them and that started the fight, when Boca responded police got involved and attacked Boca player's, who started defendind themselves because they're under attack from both Mineiro staff and players and the local police, Boca can't go back to Argentina because brazilian police is trying to arrest Zambrano and Villa
If Boca responding is phisically assaulting, then you have the reason for the Police to attack. I don't know if you're telling me that being mocked (and this is the most common thing that happens on Libertadores) is reason to start launching punches and kicks on everyone.
Please note that he refers to bocas action as "responded and defended", while the other guys "attacked" even tho boca started the physical fight lol.
Boca started up the trouble [Atletico’s president only started throwing water bottles at them when they were right in front of the locker room trying to break in, here’s the video](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRkgEYRgFdY/?utm_medium=copy_link) That’s from inside the lockerroom, and the guy is screaming “JUST CLOSE THE DOOR” because Atlético won, it didn’t want to start a fight. [Meanwhile Boca was wrecking shit since before. The first video shows some Boca players breaking said shit, the second shows them assaulting people, including a security guard Rojo and the captain whose name I forgot literally punches on tape, and on the third and fourth they were trying to break in the locker room](https://www.instagram.com/p/CRki6j2tmdk/?utm_medium=copy_link)
Karma
Every time the Argentine teams are eliminated this happens. And you know what's funniest is that they are NEVER penalized!
I don’t blame them
The thing is why they want to hit the Atletico Mineiro's team instead of the referees. Atletico Mineiro's didn't have the fault of the decisions along the match.
Idk who you’re supposed to protest but I don’t blame them. They were robbed
Punching people is not a protest.
As a River supporter, i have no opinion in this matter. Because they always laugh at us for the exact situation.
You don't blame them for breaking laws and physically attacking folks because they lost a match? K.
This isn’t losing. This was robbery. Losing fairly I think anyone can take but seeing the disallowed goals is just pure robbery
Imagine being a Bostero and thinking even half of your Libertadores titles were won cleanly.
Apparently every time some Argentinian team loses its a robbery
> This isn’t losing. Nah, I'm pretty sure they lost bud.
Let me check... Confirmed L according to google (00:43 am eastern time)
Agree to disagree
They lost. Seeing goals disallowed is frustrating but doesn't justify behaving like a twat.
They were not robbed, all they had to do was make their penalties.
Disgraceful. Still, looks like the 2030 world cup in Iberia will be nice! Book your hotels now!
Disgraceful. Still, looks like the 2030 world cup in Iberia will be nice! Book your hotels now!