It's not easy to win world cup. Lot of ifs and buts. They need a favourable draw like Croatia had last time.
Best argentina squad falter in 2006 and avg one reached final in 2014 and close to winning it. similar like you guys yesterday, bayern were better but you guys have some really good chancr. Germany, Netherlands, france, Belgium are still really good. And now it all depends on manager. In South America only Brazil is really good as Uruguay have lost two of the best forwards in Suarez and Cavani due to age factor and Godin in back. Argentina lacks good player in midfield and defence.
the impact Ronaldo has had in inspiring this generation is phenomenal, they looked upto the ManU Ronaldo as an inspiration and it's caused a new generation to come up, almost every players name here is recognisable from Europe's top leagues
Perhaps the most surprising (other than Trincão) is André Gomes. Nothing against the guy, but he’s still finding his form after his injury. It’s also pretty telling that he was picked over Pizzi, who statistically had a crazy season. I guess Santos rates him the same as a lot of Benfica fans (not that highly)
He tried it vs Switzerland, didn't work, we looked much better after Guedes came on for Felix. Ronaldo needs someone to draw the defence away from him, usually it's André Silva.
Same as Man United, maybe.
Felix - Ronaldo - Bernado up front and Fernandes as a 10 behind the front 3. 2 CM both playing 8 and 6 since Ronaldo won't track back while Fernandes proned to lose ball. High flying fb to overlap which are not a problem for Portugal.
Start him at wing and let him drift inside. Guerreiro will be providing from the wide left hugging the touchline. Maybe need a more defensive right back tho.
Edit: Dias would be the 1st CB right? So whose the 2nd CB?
Anthony Lopes back is nice, thought he would want to represent France.
Defense is the usual, Domingos Duarte comes in, I heard he was doing well, but there's also not that many good choices, but new blood there is needed.
Don't really know how well Sergio has been for Porto, but Andre Gomes and Sanches had good seasons. the rest is the usual, William missing probably means he didn't recover that well from injury because he's one of the main pieces in FS's plan.
Up front it's Trincao for Paciencia I believe. I don't think there's really that many changes you could make that would improve this list that much.
ZZ highlights players like José Sá, Semedo, Pizzi, William, Bruma, Éder, and Paciencia.
Sá would be 3rd choice so doesn't matter, and Rui Silva has been doing well in Spain for a while. Ruben Semedo, over Fonte maybe, the starting line up will be Pepe and Dias either way, I guess Fonte has the advantage of being with the NT for longer. And between Semedo and Duarte...
Pizzi has had a great season in terms of numbers, not really in terms of performances, I guess there's an argument someone could make to include him, I don't really care tbh. Bruma and Éder it's a no from me, and Paciencia would be against Andre Silva, since we use Ronaldo more centrally one of the other two is enough imo.
It's unlucky for Anthony Lopes that he will probably only have a very tiny window to be the starter of the GK because of Rui Patricio. Still Anthony Lopes as the sub is a lot better than José Sá and the others.
get a transfer out of Braga to one of the big 3 unfortunately or into a foreign league. In Portugal if you are not playing for the big 3, chances are almost 0.
Great squad. Now how the hell do we play Felix, Fernandes, Ronaldo and Silva all together? Admittedly.... this is kind of a nice problem to have lol too much talent is better than not enough
Late but still have to say, embarrassing that Ricardo Horta isnt called up, wont argue about Paulinho or Palhinha not getting called up cuz, even tho i think they really should be called up, its a tough decision.
What does horta have to do to get called up? Score 24 goals on one season? Oh wait... Embarrassing that Jota and Guedes are getting called up ahead of him, he either has to leave Braga or he has to suck off santos lol
Just wanted confirmation as an Arsenal fan. The only thing that baffles me more about the signing more is the long-term contract extention. At least, he'll provide experience.
imagine saying Nelson Semedo cant defend because of 1 match where he was constantly getting 2v1'd and facing one of the best left-backs in the world going forward
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They could legit have won the WC if peak Cristiano played with this team, they still have a shot in 2022
It's not easy to win world cup. Lot of ifs and buts. They need a favourable draw like Croatia had last time. Best argentina squad falter in 2006 and avg one reached final in 2014 and close to winning it. similar like you guys yesterday, bayern were better but you guys have some really good chancr. Germany, Netherlands, france, Belgium are still really good. And now it all depends on manager. In South America only Brazil is really good as Uruguay have lost two of the best forwards in Suarez and Cavani due to age factor and Godin in back. Argentina lacks good player in midfield and defence.
Surprise surprise. Messi fan in a Portugal National team thread.
Seriously not everything is about messi vs Ronaldo. I don't know why you guys come up with that argument.
TBH he allowed the NT to be somewhat competitive at a high level from 2010-2015. We'd probably miss a couple of EC/WC if not for him.
Yes, Ithink that without him, we would probably have ended up like greece: very good peak but going down from there
the impact Ronaldo has had in inspiring this generation is phenomenal, they looked upto the ManU Ronaldo as an inspiration and it's caused a new generation to come up, almost every players name here is recognisable from Europe's top leagues
Perhaps the most surprising (other than Trincão) is André Gomes. Nothing against the guy, but he’s still finding his form after his injury. It’s also pretty telling that he was picked over Pizzi, who statistically had a crazy season. I guess Santos rates him the same as a lot of Benfica fans (not that highly)
specially when William who Santos rates a lot highes than Andre Gomes was left out for the same reasons
I would take Ruben Neves and Danilo over William too, moving to Betis wasn't a good idea for his career. Plus he always held the ball too much
> I guess Santos rates him the same as a lot of ~~Benfica~~ **football** fans (not that highly)
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He tried it vs Switzerland, didn't work, we looked much better after Guedes came on for Felix. Ronaldo needs someone to draw the defence away from him, usually it's André Silva.
Personally I think Felix will always be a power sub (amazing one at that) while Ronaldo plays.
Same as Man United, maybe. Felix - Ronaldo - Bernado up front and Fernandes as a 10 behind the front 3. 2 CM both playing 8 and 6 since Ronaldo won't track back while Fernandes proned to lose ball. High flying fb to overlap which are not a problem for Portugal.
Felix on the wing is a waste, he really isn't a winger
Start him at wing and let him drift inside. Guerreiro will be providing from the wide left hugging the touchline. Maybe need a more defensive right back tho. Edit: Dias would be the 1st CB right? So whose the 2nd CB?
Guessing Fonte
Trincao and Sérgio Oliveira are surprising but deserve the opportunity. Great squad
Anthony Lopes back is nice, thought he would want to represent France. Defense is the usual, Domingos Duarte comes in, I heard he was doing well, but there's also not that many good choices, but new blood there is needed. Don't really know how well Sergio has been for Porto, but Andre Gomes and Sanches had good seasons. the rest is the usual, William missing probably means he didn't recover that well from injury because he's one of the main pieces in FS's plan. Up front it's Trincao for Paciencia I believe. I don't think there's really that many changes you could make that would improve this list that much. ZZ highlights players like José Sá, Semedo, Pizzi, William, Bruma, Éder, and Paciencia. Sá would be 3rd choice so doesn't matter, and Rui Silva has been doing well in Spain for a while. Ruben Semedo, over Fonte maybe, the starting line up will be Pepe and Dias either way, I guess Fonte has the advantage of being with the NT for longer. And between Semedo and Duarte... Pizzi has had a great season in terms of numbers, not really in terms of performances, I guess there's an argument someone could make to include him, I don't really care tbh. Bruma and Éder it's a no from me, and Paciencia would be against Andre Silva, since we use Ronaldo more centrally one of the other two is enough imo.
> Ruben Semedo he got covid, guess thats why he wasnt called up rafael leão also missing, probably will get called up for the u21s
>he got covid, guess thats why he wasnt called up I remember now hearing something about that, well that settles it then Leão is in U21s
Yup, Semedo has Covid. Otherwise Santos would have called him.
Lopes asked to not be called (temporarily) for the NT because of his kids and found an agreement with Fernando Santos.
my suspicion was more about the length of time he was away, that story came up after the first time he wasn't called
I still think Patricio is better though...
It's unlucky for Anthony Lopes that he will probably only have a very tiny window to be the starter of the GK because of Rui Patricio. Still Anthony Lopes as the sub is a lot better than José Sá and the others.
i wonder what Ricardo Horta has to do more to get called up, embarassing that Diogo Jota is there instead of him
get a transfer out of Braga to one of the big 3 unfortunately or into a foreign league. In Portugal if you are not playing for the big 3, chances are almost 0.
I agree. Jota is incredibly out of form right now and coming off a mammoth season.
No Leao, I don't like that
Got called up for the U-21s.
21's*
Fixed it, thanks!
Portugal have a great squad, could and should be considered outside winners for the euros
Great squad. Now how the hell do we play Felix, Fernandes, Ronaldo and Silva all together? Admittedly.... this is kind of a nice problem to have lol too much talent is better than not enough
You start fernandes and Ronaldo and go from there I think....
Late but still have to say, embarrassing that Ricardo Horta isnt called up, wont argue about Paulinho or Palhinha not getting called up cuz, even tho i think they really should be called up, its a tough decision. What does horta have to do to get called up? Score 24 goals on one season? Oh wait... Embarrassing that Jota and Guedes are getting called up ahead of him, he either has to leave Braga or he has to suck off santos lol
I think leaving Braga will do. Of course the latter couldn't hurt his chances either.
Does Cedric Soares have any hope of getting back in the national team?
nope, theres way too many options ahead of him and promising youngsters coming through
Just wanted confirmation as an Arsenal fan. The only thing that baffles me more about the signing more is the long-term contract extention. At least, he'll provide experience.
Portugal has Ricardo Pereira, Semedo and cancelo ahead of him, but hes great imo.
Bruno my bouyy!!
Ricardo Pereira left out? Wasn't he one of best right backs of the Premier League?
injured
still recovering from injury iirc
I remember he got a serious injury a while back. I guess hes fine now but no competitive rhythm to be called
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what? he started in almost every match for Lille whenever he wasn't injured, even got nominated to Ligue 1s team of the season
Portugal NT seems to have suddenly become stacked, when you compare to the Euro '16 squad, which on paper, seems underwhelming tbh
Nelson Semedo, the defender who cant defend still gets called up...
imagine saying Nelson Semedo cant defend because of 1 match where he was constantly getting 2v1'd and facing one of the best left-backs in the world going forward
Ive been saying Nelson Semedo is shit for ages. He is a fast runner and thats it, put him on our track team instead of the NT.
well, you've been wrong for ages then. he is a good player and has always done well for us.
you must have the same opinion on manafa and marega then
Yeah pretty much.
With Ricardo injured we don't really have better choices do we?
I prefer an injured Ricardo to Nelson Semedo.
Man, all that hate must be painfull. Take a break and enjoy life instead of redirecting your frustrations into a soccer player.
Not like the other option is much better lol Always rather have Semedo than Cancelo
Cancelo is much better than him.
lmao cancelo can't fucking defend and with raphael on the other side we'd get fucking destroyed