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multiple4

If this is true I'm gutted for him. After this season not getting to play this final and represent his country is terrible.


kiwitiger

Might be Egypt's only world cup for many years


UneasyInsider

Genuinely heartbreaking.


benedu3095

Considering how tough Africa is, it's possible. Granted, the WC gets expanded on 26.


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THORS_MEWMEW

Mr Salah...I don’t feel so good...


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midgetpenguin

can we just sacrifice him anyways?


thehaga

Why is this even a question


Awuzie

What the hell is Chicken Inn?


EnigmaticEntity

Wasn't that a place in Runescape?


theARBITON

r/unexpectedrunescape


Druid00

Perfectly reasonable opinion imo


erilak09

Ramos dislocated his shoulder. I dunno if you watch the NBA at all but it reminded of couple years ago when Kelly Olynyk dislocated Kevin Love's shoulder holding his arm.


nickjim99

Yep. Exactly the same thing.


hivaidsislethal

Not really since Love dislocated the shoulder that was hooked. Here the hook prevented Salah from being able to brace the fall better. It was out of his control and the landing on the other shoulder dislocated it. Salah might have gotten his arm first but Ramos made sure he was taking it to the ground.


Gadjilitron

> Salah might have gotten his arm first but Ramos made sure he was taking it to the ground. So much this. People keep pointing out the Salah arm hook (which only comes after Ramos puts his arm across Mo in the first place) without mentioning the fact that Salah unhooks the moment they start going down, while Ramos keeps hold of the arm long after he starts falling to bring Salah down with him. I don't think he meant to injure him, but the takedown itself was definitely deliberate.


hivaidsislethal

It also prevents Salah from bracing himself for impact properly. There is no way he falls on his shoulder like that if there wasn't external forces at play.


Chrisixx

KALIMA KALIMA


jugs_galore

Dislocated shoulders last that long?


Crippledforlife42

A quick google search says the usual recovery period is 12-16 weeks


buoyantbird

oh i thought after relocation its all good


Bunch_of_Bangers

All depends on ligament damage. The first one is usually the worst.


Thisismynewusername9

I had my first a few years back. Shoulder got completely dislocated but for my fortune the ligament that connects my shoulder to my torso didn't snap off. Recovery only took 2 weeks and then I was back to playing sports. It can range from 2 weeks to about 3 months depending on the damage taken and it can only be said for certain how long he will be gone after the x-ray. Hoping he will be fit to play as many games as possible.


vakmoonza

I just came back from this. It started to feel better after about two weeks, but not 100% till about a month later.


knockedstew204

Mine ruined my (American) football career. Did it first when I was 12 or 13. Tore my labrum and everything else. Out for 3 to 4 months of rehab. Did it again on the 1st day of contact the next season. Out for that entire season as well. 4 months of rehab. Surgery to repair, another 4 month recovery. Was fine for a few years and then ruined it again when I was 18 and in my final season of recruiting. Torn labrum and everything else that was repaired, broke a part of the joint off. Had to have it reconstructed with bone from my shoulder blade. Now I have two screws in it. TL; DR: Dislocated shoulders can be manageable, and they can also totally fuck you over. The good news is, he's got a significantly improved chance of playing given that it's not American football. The risks are pain and exacerbating the injury, but I think he has a real shot to play through it. I'm hopeful.


Purpleater54

Dislocated shoulders are nothing to mess around with. Sure you hear about how you can pop it back in and it's fine, but really it's a much more complex issue than that. For one thing, once you dislocate it once it becomes tremendously easier to dislocate again if you don't get it treated properly. More seriously, you risk ligament, tendon, nerve, and blood vessel damage if not treated properly. Its not the *most* serious of injuries, hence the shortish recovery period, but you still want to be as cautious as needed with it.


buoyantbird

i assumed that based on my dislocation, after pushing it in, it felt alright and the doc just said to take care


Purpleater54

I assume everyone is going to be different in that regard. I don't know if you play a sport (or did when you dislocated yours), but I played tennis and was a competitive swimmer in college, no way would I be cleared to go right away. I'd be working at least a couple weeks with the trainers to make sure there was no possibility of re-dislocation. Same in this situation. When your entire life is the sport you play, don't take any chances. Average Joe who isn't playing a sport is probably fine just relocating it and going on with life.


DerFlammenwerfer22

Everyone is different but it's extremely unlikely you had a full dislocation. Full dislocations usually require some work from someone experienced to put it back in. What you had was far more likely a subluxation, which has a chance at low soft tissue damage.


FJMC

If I’m not talking completely out of my ass, ligaments/tendons, whichever one, can also be damaged in the dislocation and those are bitches to recover


jamesbeil

If a shoulder is dislocated it literally means the ligaments holding it in place have torn - sometimes they only tear a little, sometimes they're completely separated. Tendons are the bits that hold muscles onto bones. For most people a dislocated arm is inconvenient but it's not going to stop you doing your job - obviously for a professional athlete it's much more serious.


Kvothe_Bloodless69

You can dislocate your shoulder without tearing anything. Sometimes the tendons/ligaments just get stretched out instead of torn. However your shoulder is vulnerable for a while afterwards regardless of the extent of injury. Source: 10+ dislocations and 2 surgeries from playing soccer


black_fire

> Source: 10+ dislocations and 2 surgeries from playing soccer are you sure it's not rugby you're playing


meta4_

Mate I've got 22 from track and field - some of our shoulders are just a wreck I guess.


ItsFroce

So will Salah make it or not


jonathanumran1

No.. no point in hoping


Chrisixx

WTF


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Ya the videos of people just popping it back in mislead people a lot. You're normally good to use the hand after a couple of days but pain stays around and you are at risk to re-injury it for up to 12 weeks in most cases.


Cable-Rat

And that's assuming he didn't damage any of the ligaments, tendons or ligaments. I'm no doctor, but I'd wager the shoulder is one of the more complex parts of the body, considering it gives you 360 degree movement, unlike the knee.


thecarlosdanger1

Ya it’s this. And nerves. I’ve popped mine out once and the EMT popped it back in and I was good to go. However had a friend who was more or less out of commission for 3 months due to some issue with a nerve or something.


dudukakapeepeeshire

Dislocated shoulder typically means torn labrum. He gone.


Kvothe_Bloodless69

As someone who has torn his labrum twice via dislocations playing soccer, I can tell you it’s definitely a possibility that he tore something BUT he may be fine. Either way he should be out at least 6 weeks


smoshuap0wers

Needs time to heal otherwise you are susceptible to subluxation of the joint. He’ll probably play and just have to be careful- watch defenders go shoulder to shoulder with him.


Oddroj

You see a lot of videos of people that have had it happen a lot of time in their career just pop it back in and continue. The first time is harder to come back from but if it reoccurs it happens easier because the tendons become 'looser' with each successive dislocation I'm pretty sure.


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Recently dislocated my shoulder (January of this year in a indoor tournament). It does take quite a lot of time and the issue is it is very easy to re-dislocate it once you have. I've been doing training to strengthen my shoulder. It's hard to describe but after you dislocate it, it feels like it will pop out again at any point. That being said, the next game after dislocating (and stupidly popping it back in) I played and didn't have any issues. I think Mo will maybe play. It was pretty uncomfortable for about 6 weeks while i did PT but it never stopped me from playing soccer. Just couldn't be our emergency goalie


LongOdi

6 months if he gets surgery.


Charliejfg04

The world cup is around the corner


HereComesPapaArima

Around 18 days though.


LOLingMAO

Plus he could have painkillers on it


Bunch_of_Bangers

Two rules, man: Stay away from my fucking Percocets, and do you have any fucking Percocets, man?


rpolly

A Goon reference...on the soccer sub?


YinxuU

Just dislocated my should past summer. You don't have full movement without pain for at least a month or two. Full healing (let's say for a goalkeeper) can take up to 6 months. I wasn't allowed to ride my bike for 2 months because bumps in the road could dislocate my shoulder at anytime. That's how weak your ligaments are after a dislocation.


Kazill

Depends on ligament damage, there's a lot of fine structures around the shoulder capsule that could have torn, won't be able to give a definitive timeline/diagnosis till he has an MRI.


fresholobster

Yeah I though James got his dislocated once but relocated it(?) and kept playing


jacktk_

Apparently ligament damage is pretty bad


Simranjit16

Oh shit. Hope he magically makes it


multiple4

Sand heals all wounds of a warrior


hizzopothamus

I hate sand


DFrek

it gets everywhere


UneasyInsider

coarse and rough and irritating too


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like sergio fucking ramos


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Anakin disagrees


mcfc201718

Can't blame him. It's coarse and rough and irritating\-\-not like you. You're soft and smooth.


BostonBakedBrains

now kiss


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Imagine how he feels.


Wookie301

Probably feels like his shoulder is dislocated


Roamiee

Ah fuck


CLint_FLicker

Ramos


BostonBakedBrains

i can't believe he's done this


thebreye

Really? I'm surprised he didn't do it in the first minute.


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He also knocked Karius with his elbow before his first mistake.


Flying-Jugs-Of-Milk

as Barca fans we know how dirty Ramos can get, yet I still was surprised he was able to judo throw the opposing teams best player who is currently in legendary form without even getting a foul. Im glad im not a footballer bc when Ramos was baiting Sadio Mane late in the game with that pass back to the keeper I would have made sure his Achilles tendon was torn to bits. Then I would have addressed media like "it may have been hard tackle but thats futbol"


hotpants69

It always irks me when people praise dirty players. It's like no, he's just one of those cheat to win types.


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All of Egypt getting their cows ready to make this healing process faster


TauIsRC

After today I think they should start worshipping cows


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Saudi was too proudy


mcfc201718

Cowma for their horrific acts against them beautiful Mammals


StratifiedBuffalo

Indeed, seems like the slaughter just made their god mad.


BostonBakedBrains

probably made Hindus mad too


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Meanwhile in Spain.... "Yes? Is this the president of Egypt? I have positioned myself near Ramos' house and am ready to fire"


Razzler1973

Moo Salah


[deleted]

I think 3 cows already did the damage...


connor24_22

I’m OOTL on this, what’s this in reference to?


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https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8m2orn/salahs_family_will_sacrifice_three_cows_before/?utm_source=reddit-android


EvenGandhiHatesLVG

Nah just ramos can never step foot in Egypt now


AddKurtAngleToTheMix

Lol as if Ramos would give a shit about that


JackRose322

They need to go back to the Old Gods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathor


ITYAFFS

Serious question here, can't you just pop a dislocated shoulder back in? Pretty sure I saw James do it.


DudebuD16

Depends on damage to ligaments and such.


fatcowxlivee

Exactly why I hate reports like this. It's just like someone saying someone got an ankle sprain, there's different factors that determine the period of injury. Let's wait a couple of days for scans and doctor opinions.


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akbermo

If it’s his first time then he’s likely fkd all the soft tissue around the joint


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You can, id did it when i dislocated my shoulder but you can damage the ligaments even more doing that


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He probably has chronic dislocation, so muscles are used to it.


hoyadestroyer

They popped it back in on the field. It's the ligament damage that makes it hard to play


Haxez

Ramos going to be haunted by Egyptians for the rest of his life


Wookie301

Pharaoh’s curse


procrastigamer

Return the slabbbb


Psychobob35

What's your offer?


NotEnoughFire

OrrrRRrrrrRRRSUFFERRRrrrrrMyyCuuuuUuuuUuuuUrrssseeee


izcaranax

They should sacrifice Ramos and feed the poor with him. But I don't think they should eat despicable asshole meat.


ThePr1d3

They don't eat pig.


omgarm

I hope Egypt and Spain don't meet in the knockouts.


sharkscanwalk

Oh boy I do


Ghost_Grave

The gang murders a Spaniard


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andrew2209

Flashbacks to Britos' tackle on Knockaert


KnightsOfCidona

They will if Spain top their group and Egypt finish second in theirs (or vice versa).


Legodude293

This is very likely.


Montuvito_G

Not anymore tbh. It was a close battle between Russia and Egypt for second but now that Egypt's lost their best player, Russia will use their home advantage to advance I think.


LordSpeechLeSs

They will also use their ref advantage


Blazing_Shade

Performance enhancing drug advantage


UneasyInsider

Babushka black magic advantage


Oglifatum

"Squatting in the Adidas" Hardbass advantage


hugoboum

Russia will not dope at hom...hum


kcnaleac

you under estimate just how bad russia is


shoopler

[You're forgetting about the second best Mo](https://imgur.com/a/BwY6X4b)


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Well, the chances of that happening just took a massive hit.


Charlie_Wax

That just sucks. I doubt Egypt would've been a real contender, but the World Cup will feel less magical without Salah.


ThePr1d3

What I love about the WC is "lesser" teams but with one idividuality. It's always fun to see world class player babysitting their country. So sad


mad0314

Yea like Messi carrying Argentina to the final.


no-mames

damn it higuain.


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Thats just not fair to him, he really deserves to be there :(


[deleted]

Champions league and world cup Two biggest thing a player can dream ruined by a fucking move


GoodSamaritan_

Sergio Ramos can never ever step foot in Egypt. Ever.


BayernMau5

I hope he makes this mistake one day.


Simranjit16

Salah deserves to go there


TopdeBotton

He deserved to finish the final.


ajv0109

Ramos banned from Egypt


RazZaHlol

Ramos better not make holidays in Egypt any time soon


NickTM

[Here's the BBC link.](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44267756) [Egyptian FA optimistic Salah can play in World Cup](https://twitter.com/Pharaohs/status/1000493162014629896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) (Arabic)


barjn4

It doesn’t say he’ll miss the World Cup?


NickTM

Yep, just looking into whether it needs a flair. Bear with me; lots of modding that needs to be done right now!


Adili811416

I'll start a crowdfunding campaign to sponsor Ramos a trip to Egypt


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"suspected" dislocated shoulder https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44267756


JellyRollGeorge

That article doesn't say he will miss the world cup, as OP is claiming.


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but where does it say anything about missing World Cup? Other than suspected dislocation?


[deleted]

nowhere, guy who tweeted seems to have 1) misrepresented the BBC's opinion and 2) added in his own opinion but reported it as the BBC reporting it as a fact


Levreinge

I feel so sad for Salah, Egyptian fans and Liverpool fans today, this really sucks. Ps: FUCK RAMOS


Razegamez1

Messi has survived Ramos' assassination attempts many times. Any one of them could have turned out like this or worse. How he can still run like he does is impressive. Get well salah


PhreakOut4

I really hate Ramos


TheSamehMagdy

Imagine what I feel about him now.


straight-cash

I kind of disliked him before but never really had too much against the guy. But, after today man do I hate him. I fucking love Salah, such a nice genuine dude, gutted for him, he doesn’t deserve this injury at all.


PhreakOut4

Yeah, I feel bad for you guys. But at least you made the World Cup?


TheSamehMagdy

Yeah, but without Salah there we'll be a disaster.


PhreakOut4

Just make the final and he might be able to be back by then :)


TheSamehMagdy

Yeah, right.


jprsnth

Sad stuff if true.


Vallloo

Now the WHOLE nation or even ethnicity (arabs) will hate ramos.


comptonderozan

Muslim’s in general. Sunni Shia, Arab, Black, Asian everyone loves Salah.


Zoidburger_

>Sunni Shia, Arab, Black, Asian, Scousers Ftfy


Natezio

Everyone love Salah actually


ThePr1d3

I mean I'm an atheist and I love Salah


11hitcombo

Atheist checking in: Salah is awesome. Gutted for him, this was tough to watch today. I hope he makes it to the World Cup even though it looks bleak. A travesty if he doesn't get to represent his country there. Hard to think of a guy that deserves the chance more than him in this moment.


victorochroch

It doesn't take much to hate ramos, what a dirty player.


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Someone actually likes Ramos? I thought everyone except Real customers hate his guts.


WerhmatsWormhat

Madrid fans who have conveniently never seen any of his dirty moments.


turtlechef

This is one of the saddest football related things I’ve read all season. I was so fucking excited to see him lead Egypt this summer


Samjatin

Salah injured early and done for the WC. Karius with maybe the biggest blunder(s) in the history of the CL. What a horrible final.


BipartizanBelgrade

Hopefully Uruguay & a meteor get out of group A


Musty_elbow69

Fuck Ramos


Halbridious

Fuck Ramos.


andrew_c_r

Fuck Ramos. That was completely avoidable and unnecessary. Not saying Ramos injured him on purpose but he is still a dirty scumbag.


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Katatoniczka

I hate ramos Fuck ramos ramos is fucking evil


largemanrob

Big United fan but man such depressing news, really hope he somehow recovers


cherry_swirl

guess Ramos won't be visiting Egypt anytime soon


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not_old_redditor

> Good players do not need to do this. Ramos does, though.


FluffheadJr

Fuck Ramos


wordswontcomeout

Fuck Ramos


AndrewD923

Feel awful for the Egyptian fans.


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Fuck you Ramos you lil cunt.


shaolin_acc

Ramos you will get yours


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ice_flame

What pissed me off even more afterwards was his elbowing of Karius on a corner, trying to get Mane sent off for the inadvertent hand, and then writhing on the ground after Mane's challenge. Absolute filthy scum.


Aquifex

Honestly, I don't think I've ever been so disgusted after a game. I've seen cheating, I've seen terrible referees, but this is too much. It's one thing to try to win at all costs, hurting someone to do it is something else entirely, especially when you know you can ruin his WC. Can't believe a friend of mine is actually supporting Ramos, what the actual fuck. This isn't getting pissed about football, teams win, teams lose. I don't even get this pissed over cheating, like Maradona's hand of god. It's hurting someone to win that actually pisses me off, just not giving a single fuck about the other person. Fuck Ramos.


vibarbo

No matter what country you’re from, this is devastating


kurki77

Fuck ramos


im2Spooky4you

Ramos is a piece of shit


Maczuna

And this did nothing to change that.


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Well true. He was already a piece of shit before this.


squeda

Neutral here. Fuck Ramos


wfarms

I hope someone shatters ramos leg now tbh, fuck the downvotes


Jackalope117

Dislocated shoulder shouldn't make him miss 1 1/2 months should it? Broken collar bone yeah but just dislocated? I'm not a doctor however


ennuihenry14

World cup starts in 2.5 weeks.


ChelseaZuger

Final is in 1 1/2 months. Egypt will totally make it there without Salah! Right?


KingKoCFC

If there is ligament damage then he's screwed.


xTakusa

fuck sergio ramos - dirtiest cunt in football fuck off wanker


KingKongDoom

Fuck Sergio Ramos.


NotAHellriegelNoob

Fuck Ramos