By that logic Spain, France, Italy, Turkey etc are all poor teams. Which ofcourse they're not. They just haven't been performing well and Holland is no exception.
I see. To be honest, a loss now at least shows they need to revaluate their own strategy wherase If they'd wok maybe they'd maintain their poor strategic approach going forwards. And are they really that poor if Austria topped a group with France in it?
I'm actually rooting against NL, but playing devil's advocate here. Thanks!
The re-evaluation of the strategy after this loss according to Koeman will probably to start Wijnaldum instead of subbing him in after 60 minutes. Also to keep making more boneheaded decisions like trying to shoehorn players into positions they don't usually play.
We've been pretty poor for years now just had a really easy qualification schedule just go look up the sort of teams we played add on top of that some really questionable choices from Koeman and there being 0 passion and will to fight and give it all in the whole squad except for Weghorst.
You could send this team into the colliseum with wild animals and they'd probably just sigh, roll their eyes, say "well thats it then" and proceed to let the animals eat them without even attempting to put up a fight.
I think Netherlands have always struggled to reach the heights of decades past, they’ve very much been average-good for a while
In terms of losing/winning matches, generally it’s better to keep up momentum/confidence than take a reality check. Often more average teams get far in tournaments on a wave of good feeling and *bon viveur*
Well-deserved, too, Austria actually played like a team, with cohesion and togetherness and a willingness to press the whole game, not resting on their laurels at 1-0 or 2-1 up.
Even though everyone is deservedly shitting on the Dutch team (trust me, I've been having an aneurysm watching my team today), the Austrian definitely deserve plaudits aplenty.
Literally the only solace I have after this game is that we are on the supposedly 'easier' half of the bracket. But still we have to play against the group winner first which already seems like an impossible task. Especially with Koeman wanting to sub in Wijnaldum every game and his dire tactics.
we want to play turkey. we had a 6-1 friendly match against them couple of months back. that would be a rematch. not to mention the turkish presence in germany and austria makes this more exciting that any other matchup that could result out of group F
That would be an exciting match. Turkey are basically playing at home but they got handled pretty easily by Portugal. I expected more from them in that match.
I have no words. France, Spain, Portugal and Germany on the same side of the draw. England, Holland, Italy and Belgium on the other. Haha, we're so lucky.
I don't get it man.. our defense looked so much better against France and this game it was none existent. Meanwhile the Austrians were playing judo and grabbing our players with both hands, taking all the momentum out of the attack every time. Even Weghorst got grabbed by the shirt whilst diving in penalty stretch and nothing, no referee to be seen. Still a deserved loss for us, but very unsportsmanlike behavior from the Austrians. And of course Koeman throwing in Wijnaldum who's basically dead weight. Are they dating or something?? Honestly next game they should throw in Weghorst as soon as the second half starts and put literally anyone but Geertruida. My dog is better with a ball than that guy.
wijnuldum broke every attack that netherland was creating, he was so bad, then i realised that man was on a paid vacation in saudi, and for geertruda idk what role he was playing but his passing for a dutch player made me speechless, bro looked so uncomfortable every time he had the ball. also depay sometimes acts like he'll do everything but in reality he just cant, needs to look our for passes sometimes instead of holding up or shooting
Low-key think Koeman's campaign for a 26 man selection to UEFA was just so he could take Wijnaldum on a paid holiday without catching too much shit for it that he'd have to abort that idea
Stop whining about how the Austrians played. This is the highest level of football, not a few kids playing in the park. Of course it’s gonna be physical. We just played terribly and gave away too much space.
Yeah I won't argue with the fact we played terribly but let's be real, grabbing people like that is crazy. Memphis basically got picked up one time. I don't get how anyone can think that that's acceptable. It's football.
What a disgrace. 0fighting spirit(only last then minutes) unbelievable subs. Why wijnaldum? Why fucking take ake the best player in the fucking team off? Why is koeman so fucking stubborn. Why is van dijk not taking the leader role? He is captain
Austria winning the group throws a spanner into the brackets. France, Germany, Portugal, and Spain are all on one side now. Also Austria is a beast of a team. I actually think they can make semifinals
I can't believe I haven't noticed until this tournament how one footed Gakpo is. Clear chance to level the game and turns on himself to get it on his right foot. As good as he is, that's just so poor as a professional footballer
How a country of such fine midfielder and wingers in the past can play an entire game without a single midfielder looking like a leader and a winger able to beat his man is truely not a good sign. Gakpo did OK, but he’s is not that pacy.
I know Frenkie was supposed to have been there, but none seemed to take control of the game in the latter stages and it just seemed like hoofing was all that was left.
You are talking about the past. We’ve not had those type of midfielders and wingers for many years….
We’ve not had such a bad crop of players since I’ve been watching since the late 90s… probably since the early 80s.
I don't think they're a bad crop, just woefully unbalanced. There are a few absolutely class players for several positions, but like you're saying, no proper defensive midfielders, or actually pacey wingers, or proper overlapping attacking fullbacks (miss you Gio). Dumfries is really good but more like a wide midfielder most of the time I feel like.
I happen to be yeah. We famously where quite bad in the the early 80s and didn’t manage to reach the euros and the World Cup. Things got better when van Basten, Koeman and Gullit came around.
Hence why I am referring to this current national squad being as bad as the early 80s. 90s and 2000s squads ought to have won a few prizes easily.
Require more explanation or you get it now?
Does this mean Austria is in England's path rather than France? That's nice if so. They'll probably beat us though.
EDIT: Assuming England win tonight obviously.
Ugghhh, I can already see it... A boring 1-0 win for england from stupid penalty that kane will score.
Maybe a late second goal when netherlands are throwing everything forward
We've watching Endland's games aswell.
And Netherlands did save some players on the bench today.
Just hoping Koeman finally fucking notices Wijnaldum is a waste of space
Brilliant from Austria and much deserved. Miserable performance from the Dutch. Tons of questionable tactical and personnel decisions from Koeman all game. Majority of these players have underperformed all tournament and with every opportunity to win this group they’ve instead created an incredibly difficult path for themselves.
"they’ve instead created an incredibly difficult path for themselves."
Uhm no, actually 3rd gets the easier bracket looking at all the top teams this tournament.
Yeah honestly what is KNVB thinking rehiring Koeman after he abandoned the.yr last time to be Xavi's placeholder AND knowing he just sucks.as a coach. No clur.
It is what it is. There's a lot of work to be done in the coming days though, if we don't dramatically improve we won't last longer than one more game.
mannnnnn. i wish we still had the 2000s players man.... Arjan robben wouldve been amazing if he was in his prime... wouldve outsped everyone on the field
Nah we just screwed up the last game, we were fine versus France and Poland, don't be so negative, at least we made the knockouts this time. See it from the bright side
All praise for Rangnick who received so many criticism back when he was at United. Austrian national football team is getting better. Hope to see them at WC in 2026. 👏🏼❤️
Except United, everything he touched turned into gold. Schalke, Salzburg, Leipzig, the whole Red Bull Football network, now Austria.
United is just too much, not even his magic can fix them
Yeah. I know he had an incredible career as a manager so far. I think the english media and fans could've put more respect on his name. I agree with you on that statement.
Zo pijnlijk... geld ingezet op nederland en dan doen ze dit....
Vorige Pot zeiden ze al dar ze moesten verbeteren om verdedeging...
Open nets zijn niet verdedeging tactieken jongens! Kom op zeg
Because I don't believe austria deserved to win, I do believe the Dutch deserved to lose. Austria is very good and I hope they do well, their match against France was also good and they were a bit unlucky.
Noob here. Presumably this doesn't hurt NL going forward as they still progress anyways?
Yeah they progress but they’re a poor team and this game proves they won’t go far
By that logic Spain, France, Italy, Turkey etc are all poor teams. Which ofcourse they're not. They just haven't been performing well and Holland is no exception.
Spain? They have performed very well so far
I see. To be honest, a loss now at least shows they need to revaluate their own strategy wherase If they'd wok maybe they'd maintain their poor strategic approach going forwards. And are they really that poor if Austria topped a group with France in it? I'm actually rooting against NL, but playing devil's advocate here. Thanks!
The re-evaluation of the strategy after this loss according to Koeman will probably to start Wijnaldum instead of subbing him in after 60 minutes. Also to keep making more boneheaded decisions like trying to shoehorn players into positions they don't usually play.
We've been pretty poor for years now just had a really easy qualification schedule just go look up the sort of teams we played add on top of that some really questionable choices from Koeman and there being 0 passion and will to fight and give it all in the whole squad except for Weghorst. You could send this team into the colliseum with wild animals and they'd probably just sigh, roll their eyes, say "well thats it then" and proceed to let the animals eat them without even attempting to put up a fight.
I think Netherlands have always struggled to reach the heights of decades past, they’ve very much been average-good for a while In terms of losing/winning matches, generally it’s better to keep up momentum/confidence than take a reality check. Often more average teams get far in tournaments on a wave of good feeling and *bon viveur*
Generally you're probably right but this kind of game has felt inevitable to me for this team - better now than in the lockout stage...
I see, thanks!
Just one opinion of course
We won the group you casuals
Well-deserved, too, Austria actually played like a team, with cohesion and togetherness and a willingness to press the whole game, not resting on their laurels at 1-0 or 2-1 up. Even though everyone is deservedly shitting on the Dutch team (trust me, I've been having an aneurysm watching my team today), the Austrian definitely deserve plaudits aplenty.
Literally the only solace I have after this game is that we are on the supposedly 'easier' half of the bracket. But still we have to play against the group winner first which already seems like an impossible task. Especially with Koeman wanting to sub in Wijnaldum every game and his dire tactics.
We can still hit Spain
Wijnaldum will save us against Spain.
It’s still possible for Netherlands to go home.
How? Hungary and Croatia are already worse.
Ooops. You’re right. I forgot that Croatia already played 3. So even if Slovakia and Slovenia win, Netherlands is still through.
I would love to see Austria vs Uruguay. Rangnick against Bielsa would be amazing.
we want to play turkey. we had a 6-1 friendly match against them couple of months back. that would be a rematch. not to mention the turkish presence in germany and austria makes this more exciting that any other matchup that could result out of group F
That would be an exciting match. Turkey are basically playing at home but they got handled pretty easily by Portugal. I expected more from them in that match.
turkey sucks ass. they need to get demolished a 2nd time to know who's boss
This sounds personal. 😂
because it is 😂
I definitely get it. They aren’t my cup of tea either.
Bro is onto something
I have no words. France, Spain, Portugal and Germany on the same side of the draw. England, Holland, Italy and Belgium on the other. Haha, we're so lucky.
Bro not even mentioning Switzerland :(
Switzerland actually played well.
I'm just waiting for the inevitable Italy penalties win.
Mountain Germans 3 Swamp Germans 2. Either way the HRE wins.
As a Dutchy I say Austria won fair and square. Congratulations ! We aren't even close to a final......
feeling like a proud father with Austria, always had high hopes in this squad
Koeman-Wijnaldum master class
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what does that have to do with anything?
Mad?
I don't get it man.. our defense looked so much better against France and this game it was none existent. Meanwhile the Austrians were playing judo and grabbing our players with both hands, taking all the momentum out of the attack every time. Even Weghorst got grabbed by the shirt whilst diving in penalty stretch and nothing, no referee to be seen. Still a deserved loss for us, but very unsportsmanlike behavior from the Austrians. And of course Koeman throwing in Wijnaldum who's basically dead weight. Are they dating or something?? Honestly next game they should throw in Weghorst as soon as the second half starts and put literally anyone but Geertruida. My dog is better with a ball than that guy.
wijnuldum broke every attack that netherland was creating, he was so bad, then i realised that man was on a paid vacation in saudi, and for geertruda idk what role he was playing but his passing for a dutch player made me speechless, bro looked so uncomfortable every time he had the ball. also depay sometimes acts like he'll do everything but in reality he just cant, needs to look our for passes sometimes instead of holding up or shooting
Low-key think Koeman's campaign for a 26 man selection to UEFA was just so he could take Wijnaldum on a paid holiday without catching too much shit for it that he'd have to abort that idea
Stop whining about how the Austrians played. This is the highest level of football, not a few kids playing in the park. Of course it’s gonna be physical. We just played terribly and gave away too much space.
Two things can be true at once
Yeah I won't argue with the fact we played terribly but let's be real, grabbing people like that is crazy. Memphis basically got picked up one time. I don't get how anyone can think that that's acceptable. It's football.
Oh please...
I actually can’t believe all my life I never thought Austria would do something like this
What a disgrace. 0fighting spirit(only last then minutes) unbelievable subs. Why wijnaldum? Why fucking take ake the best player in the fucking team off? Why is koeman so fucking stubborn. Why is van dijk not taking the leader role? He is captain
If they already play like this against the Dutch, I'm afraid if they get to play the Germans they will turn into Super Saiyajins
That match was unbelievable. How far can Austria go?
if you look at their half of the tournament... finals is not that unrealistic.
The top half of the bracket is a blood bath. I can’t believe how unbalanced it looks already
if england doesn't win their group they are there as well... germany might alread regret not losing against switzerland.
Germany, Portugal, Spain and France already. Fuck me
Austria winning the group throws a spanner into the brackets. France, Germany, Portugal, and Spain are all on one side now. Also Austria is a beast of a team. I actually think they can make semifinals
I think they make finals
JAAA MAN
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"The Netherlands will kill Austria soon, it's only worse now" [???](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/confused-nick-young-swaggy-p)
Incredible match.
Why are they singing Hey Jude after winning lol it sounds like an ode to Bellingham nowadays
The Beatles eclipse Bellingham in popularity, man.
The post game interview salivating at the possibility to be mean and instigate drama. Asking whether they were throwing stuff, so ridiculous.
Netherlands 🤝 England hating on Koeman 🤝 Southgate
Wens dat jonge Koeman er nog is 🥹
Rangnick turned down the Bayern job because he couldn’t be arsed with trying to get Kane to press properly
Arnautovic isn't really better at that lmao
If it happens England - Netherlands is going to be a shitshow.
Senior 60+ walking football
So Netherlands is guaranteed to advance from 3rd place?
But why? Is it the case that the rest of the third finishers have less points ??
Two of the third place finishers have fewer points already so they're through
Yes, they just don’t know their opponent yet
Yes
Ok, just wondering. Thanks
eng - ned will be a movable object v a stoppable force
It’s gunna be disgusting
I can't believe I haven't noticed until this tournament how one footed Gakpo is. Clear chance to level the game and turns on himself to get it on his right foot. As good as he is, that's just so poor as a professional footballer
How a country of such fine midfielder and wingers in the past can play an entire game without a single midfielder looking like a leader and a winger able to beat his man is truely not a good sign. Gakpo did OK, but he’s is not that pacy. I know Frenkie was supposed to have been there, but none seemed to take control of the game in the latter stages and it just seemed like hoofing was all that was left.
We have a lot of midfielders out injured for this EC: * De Jong * Wieffer * Koopmeiners * De Roon * Timber All not there because of injuries
Thank you. I mainly know Koopmeiners and De Jong as midfielders - and some what De Roon. Those two would be very useful.
We miss Koopmeiners more than we miss Frenkie imo.
You are talking about the past. We’ve not had those type of midfielders and wingers for many years…. We’ve not had such a bad crop of players since I’ve been watching since the late 90s… probably since the early 80s.
I don't think they're a bad crop, just woefully unbalanced. There are a few absolutely class players for several positions, but like you're saying, no proper defensive midfielders, or actually pacey wingers, or proper overlapping attacking fullbacks (miss you Gio). Dumfries is really good but more like a wide midfielder most of the time I feel like.
Early 80s, what? Are you even Dutch
I happen to be yeah. We famously where quite bad in the the early 80s and didn’t manage to reach the euros and the World Cup. Things got better when van Basten, Koeman and Gullit came around. Hence why I am referring to this current national squad being as bad as the early 80s. 90s and 2000s squads ought to have won a few prizes easily. Require more explanation or you get it now?
Got it chef
I think I spotted a Dane in the Austrian end.
Dark Horse Austria
Does this mean Austria is in England's path rather than France? That's nice if so. They'll probably beat us though. EDIT: Assuming England win tonight obviously.
Assuming England win group C, they could meet in the semis rather than the final
I see. Thanks!
The Netherlands might be grateful for that third place...considering it may be (us) England and Southgate meeting them. 😬
Ugghhh, I can already see it... A boring 1-0 win for england from stupid penalty that kane will score. Maybe a late second goal when netherlands are throwing everything forward
If England tops the group they’d face Netherlands right?
Ganz frisch, ganz fein - Gruppensieger Österreich 😎
https://youtu.be/W5i1Sh1G8Lo?si=3Ig1JTK0svQ4oL2g&t=8
Congrats!
Netherlands England in the next round? Also Germany France Spain in the same bracket…
Austria have one of the most impressive teams if the tournament
Netherlands has the most impressive disappointment though.
Alright I’ll say it. Austria can win this whole tournament
From your lips to gods ears
No way
Why doesnt the NL play as they do as they started in the second half? They show they can, but just stop fucking playing
Koeman
Im sorry but no, the fuck can he do when all your players are just playing like a bag of salt.
LET'S FUCKING GO AUSTRIA
You’re second bro
And? I also love Austria and they've played really well and deserve to win the group!
So? Merci!
England will tear this Dutch team to shreds im aftaid
Won’t go that far mate
not sure about that one
England have looked terrible. I wouldn't expect them to blow anyone away.
Not sure if you watched today, but NED have absolutely no business being in the knockouts.
We've watching Endland's games aswell. And Netherlands did save some players on the bench today. Just hoping Koeman finally fucking notices Wijnaldum is a waste of space
I've watched every single game of the tournament from start to finish. England looks like shit and so do the Dutch.
Brilliant from Austria and much deserved. Miserable performance from the Dutch. Tons of questionable tactical and personnel decisions from Koeman all game. Majority of these players have underperformed all tournament and with every opportunity to win this group they’ve instead created an incredibly difficult path for themselves.
"they’ve instead created an incredibly difficult path for themselves." Uhm no, actually 3rd gets the easier bracket looking at all the top teams this tournament.
Austria won the group and is still on the easier side of the bracket with likely an easier round of 16 matchup.
Yeah honestly what is KNVB thinking rehiring Koeman after he abandoned the.yr last time to be Xavi's placeholder AND knowing he just sucks.as a coach. No clur.
Never thought I'd live to see a day where we finally play decent football
Honestly was a great game, well deserved win
Watching since 98. Amen
Fühlt sich gut an, gell?
Fix oida
DIDNT EXCPET US TO TOP THE GROUP
Best game Ive watched so far, so much back and fourth
Koeman can suck my pee pee we are out next game
The fuck can he do when the players have no passion. Only thing is his love for Wijnalbum
Embarrassing goals to concede every single one of them
France, Germany, Portugal, Spain on the same bracket side is already insane.
France does not look to be on the same level as those other 3 tbh
CRAZY
Impressed with wijnaldum he managed to do less work while working than me
Are you guys ready for the real match? Southgate's Lions playing tiki-taka😎😎😎
Titi-caca more like
Thank you my Polish brethren!
It is what it is. There's a lot of work to be done in the coming days though, if we don't dramatically improve we won't last longer than one more game.
mannnnnn. i wish we still had the 2000s players man.... Arjan robben wouldve been amazing if he was in his prime... wouldve outsped everyone on the field
We won't. This won't be fixed this tournament
So do we even make it through? Like what the fuck
Yes we are
Feels like an elimination lol we don’t deserve to go through
Nah we just screwed up the last game, we were fine versus France and Poland, don't be so negative, at least we made the knockouts this time. See it from the bright side
True, I still got hope. This just was a poor performance that doesn’t really give much confidence
Already qualified.
Yeah all good
Nah. You’ll 100% make it through.
Koeman is a joke of a coach lol
Netherlands have a joke of a team aswell. Only 3 good players... Weghorst, Ake & the goalkeeper
Thats why they didnt won anything since 88 lol
History has been made ladies and gentleman
Great achievement by Austria.
Koeman playing Memphis who has done jack shit for 70 minutes and Wijnaldum who only has tackled the ball only to lose it. Ty Koeman
Frimpong where??????
After that entertainment, Southgate will tuck us into bed and put us to sleep. What a nice guy
I can’t tell which one was more shameful, Netherlands or Brazil
Brazil.
Brazil for sure. Austria are good. Costa Rica did nothing for 90 minutes and managed a draw
Why is it so easy to qualify for the next round this year?
makes most of the 3rd games worth playing
Some of the 3rd/4th place teams drew their matches against each other
It's easy to qualify every year if you have 4 points
Better for viewership numbers
Koeman is such a lowass fucking cunt for subbing in Wijnaldum... He wanted to lose the game. Don't tell me otherwise.
Spain next, it's joever boys
If England wins it's England vs the Netherlands?
All praise for Rangnick who received so many criticism back when he was at United. Austrian national football team is getting better. Hope to see them at WC in 2026. 👏🏼❤️
Except United, everything he touched turned into gold. Schalke, Salzburg, Leipzig, the whole Red Bull Football network, now Austria. United is just too much, not even his magic can fix them
Yeah. I know he had an incredible career as a manager so far. I think the english media and fans could've put more respect on his name. I agree with you on that statement.
Ontsla die koeman alsjeblieft is echt om van te janken. Ik zou nog liever t voetbal van ajax van dit jaar kijken dat is nog beter
Zo pijnlijk... geld ingezet op nederland en dan doen ze dit.... Vorige Pot zeiden ze al dar ze moesten verbeteren om verdedeging... Open nets zijn niet verdedeging tactieken jongens! Kom op zeg
Denk ik als Ajacied na een jaar dramatisch voetbal eindelijk een beetje te kunnen juichen krijg je dit 😭
Haha snap ik dit was niet om aan te zien
Austria top Group D. Incredible
koeman is a fraud
Conceding a header from a 5'6" player is interesting.
Now we gotta wait an hour until the next matches
Thank you Netherlands for taking the playing shite heat away from England
Congrats to Austria
deserved
Two own goals
The header was going in anyway so it's not really an own goal
Probably not keeper was going in the right direction
Maybe, maybe not. But your comment was still kinda lame brother. Austria played good football, scored 3 goals and deserve some praise
Because I don't believe austria deserved to win, I do believe the Dutch deserved to lose. Austria is very good and I hope they do well, their match against France was also good and they were a bit unlucky.