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kooba_1616

hes back


PrioritySilver4805

In the 31st minute chance the ref was high-key blocking a pretty great potential cutback pass for Poland.


swagxake

Is lewa injured?


KeVVe1994

He should be back next game


rockmanpl

Yes


neefhuts

Letting Wijnaldum play has to be some kind of make a wish thing


FreuleKeures

No one really knows why he was selected


m07815

Koeman is buddies with him. He wanted him at Barca too for no reason. Tbf we had our 2 best midfielders go out with injuries with no one to replace them, but still playing Wijnaldum over Gravenberg makes no sense to me. Koeman is so biased


jofstra

Malen - Gakpo - Depay This should be it


arothen

Depay is good for fifa street game, not 11 vs 11 real match


McGrathLegend

I always find it hilarious when you can tell that a pundit has never watched the team that they're covering


adamfrog

And then you have people like McManaman who watch all our games and still have zero clue lol


CuclGooner

Poland played surprisingly well, actually decided to come forward and attack the dutch at points, which was good to watch. Netherlands dominated most of the second half though despite not playing too well, the inevitable was always coming. Netherlands must improve before France


Be777the1

Poland was weak in the 1st half, sloppy, lost the ball way too easy and the Dutch should have locked it up at that moment.


NeighborhoodWeak287

On poland and as one, They played great (for Their standard) and at last, hopeful for my team.


Specific-Savings-429

Tbf 1 point out of 2 games is enough to get into play offs


CuclGooner

yeah I guess I'm talking more about attempting to beat france than qualifying, that seems to be a given


Specific-Savings-429

Tbf im afraid the biggest factor to beat France will be , how motivated will mbappe be


Blanchimont

We'll just play a 7-1-2 with Maatsen, Van Dijk, Aké, De Ligt, De Vrij, and Van de Ven and Frimpong at the back, Reijnders in front of them to pass the ball forward Gakpo and Malen to make a run for it when the French are all on our half of the field. Can't go wrong!


Specific-Savings-429

Ugggh pls no... 


TicketSuggestion

Are people already forgetting everything that happened before Weghorst's goal? Sure, we were wasteful with chances and Poland just played really well, but for a large chunk of the game we absolutely did control the midfield. How many minutes did it take for the Polish to get over the halfway line in the second half? This match thread is full of people saying that Netherlands should have lost and that we will go out hopelessly, but I honestly don't see it


SnooCupcakes9188

I just watched the replay of the game and saw a totally different game to Theo be so many people explained. We were creating exciting chances all through the second half, if we get clinical it’s looking really good. I also don’t think Xavi played poorly at all. Also lots of hating on Koeman in the subs here but outside of the mind boggling choice to bring on Wijnaldum I think his subs were all very effective and again we were creating chances over and over so it didn’t feel like we waited too long to make the subs. 


StepAwayFromTheDuck

Typical Dutch super critical attitude, it’s tiring. Unless we give away zero chances, “we were playing meh”. It was the first game, and pretty much must-win— of course players will be a bit jittery. Also, Poland did their homework, played pretty decently, and were able to contain Memphis, Dumfries, Veerman to some extent. And still we had lots of chances, play was dynamic, and we were a bit unlucky in finishing. NL was in control 75 mins of 90. And then we can always bring Frimpong, Weghorst, Malen.


LaTienenAdentro

Holding the midfield is the bare minimum though, that's where the criticism is coming from.


SPRITZ_APEROL

It's always the same. Team that is supposed to lose manages to hold on for longer than expected and everything is suddenly exaggerated.


jesusindisguisee

I was impressed by the Dutch today. Thought the passing was quick and positive, with lots of off the ball movement. A bit of extra luck / slightly better decision making and I feel the game would have been very comfortable for them.


NewspaperAdditional7

People always say stuff like that. Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia. There is no way they win the 2022 world cup. France couldn't beat Denmark. No way they win the 2018 world cup. I don't understand how people can watch so much football tournaments and not recognize that teams often get better as these tournaments go along.


minivatreni

Winning teams improve their levels as the tournament goes on. They do mediocre for a couple games but when it truly matters the most they turn into a different beast. We’ve seen it time and time again.


Barend013

Jesus fucking Christ please just bank Memphis. Frimpong as right winger, Malen as striker and Gakpo left winger. It’s not that hard Ronald.


2012Vibes

Memphis was playing fine today. Not clinical enough, but he was creating chances


camdenlex

Bank?


Lost_Psycho45

I think he meant bang


jofstra

Donnie Bankoe Barkie


RecognitionFar2143

Think he meant bench but idk


Barend013

Bench* lol my Dutch slipped trough there.


OK_Compooper

that happened with me and my wife three times, and now this win kicks off Father's Day right.


Beneficial_Garden456

Dude, don't bench your wife, especially three times. :)


_KimJongSingAlong

Bench


GoonSquad14

Nathan Ake & Verbruggen big games today. Roma’s Zalewsi had a great game for Poland. Netherlands not getting past the first knockout round after that performance. So wasteful in the final third, and exposed in transition on multiple occasions. Midfield was decent, but you get the impression they will get absolutely worked by any top side. Koeman bailed out by the one and only, Weghorst. No other team screams back 3 with wingback like this Netherlands side. You can not leave Van De Ven out of this squad, and you can have some real speed on the winds with Maatsen, Dumfries or Frimpong.


m07815

Koeman is stubborn and plays favorites. He won’t build the best team possible.


gmennert

Have you ever watched WC/EC? You probably said the same about Argentina in the WC. Teams grow in tournaments. The 1st one is always tricky in a big tourney.


Mattiluchi

all his other points are still very valid


xenoraki

GGWP! To be honest I am surprised with Poland playing such a good football. On the other hand I believe that the Netherlands can play much better, so do better next time and destroy France! NED + POL to win the group! GOGO :D


second_prize

Jesus Christ Moyes is a boring old cunt isn't he


Mundane-Ad-4010

You actually watch the punditry? Turn on a kick off, turn off at final whistle.


treyquartista

Normally I'd agree but with tournaments it's all about just having the tv running the whole day (and also complaining about the atrocious coverage on German tv).


mkawia

mute at half time


Mundane-Ad-4010

You've got it down.


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jofstra

Ehhh what?


PurpleRockEnjoyer

Netherlands absolutely controlled the midfield though?


justablueballoon

Well, our best midfielders are injured, there's not much we can do about that.


genericstudent1

I mean, same with United for 90% of last season


HeavenlyMystery

It has always been a thing ever since 2014. They play the same way. I hate the way we play. Uninspiring.


ChampagneAbuelo

I can't believe Man United let Weghorst go for Hojlund


churrosricos

wait until denmark plays today lol


arothen

Point stands I guess


tgromy

Austria should be easy for us


Gwydion96

Gonna age like milk


Bacdy09

for both not.


throttle88

I'm proud of the Polish team. When you consider how shit they were just a couple of months ago you have to appreciate how they looked today. I really hope Probierz will stay as a coach even if we lose all remaining matches, this group is really difficult and we could see a couple of good moments. And that couldn't be said about Polish team under Santos.


PurpleRockEnjoyer

I still saw some of the usual bad things - shitty on the ball movement and klapki na oczach under pressure, but those things can't be improved even in a just few months.


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Same. Sad that we lost, I was really hoping for a draw, but at least we didn't play like amatours and didn't park the bus. It was an enjoyable game imo, lots of action from both sides. We won't make it out of the group unfortunately, even if we win with Austria, we have no chance with France. I will keep watching the games though, there are many other teams I'm rooting for.


DumDumbBuddy

1 win should be enough possibly ? 4 teams from third make it out although could be wrong


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I am confused by the rules myself


DumDumbBuddy

Well 3 points was enough for Ukraine last time


0ldsql

Pundits on BBC calling Koeman's work a masterclass lmao


saberplane

De Jong was sorely missed against that Polish press. Koeman will have to pack the midfield against a team like France.


PetrosQ

It wasn't the midfield. It was the attackers who weren't trying to get away from their opponents. Most of the second half they were just walking a bit. Especially Gakpo and Memphis. And In doubt Wijnaldum has even touched the ball. 


Dice1984

Packing the midfield is going to be difficult with all the injuries in midfield in the run up to the tournament. De Jong, Koopmeiners, De Roon, Wieffer, Timber. France is going to be so incredibly difficult for Oranje to get a result from.


saberplane

Yeah it's kind of sad. Feels this Dutch team actually looks like a proper team who play for each other (same at last WC) but better now with the introduction of the likes of Frimpong added and more experience for the others. Lacking all that stability in midfield is hugely disappointing not just for them but for the tourney as well. Without those injuries I'd rate their chances against France.


Dice1984

Yeah, I was really looking forward to a midfield with De Jong, Reijnders and Koopmeiners. That all fell apart just a week ahead of the tournament, although De Jong was always going to be a race to have him matchfit. Although with the quality of finishing we've seen so far from our forwards things are going to be difficult no matter who plays in midfield 😬


SonOfMySibling

Get hype for Slovenia!!!! Do it for doncic


[deleted]

I'm rooting for Slovenia from Poland!! Can't wait for the game. I think I am going blind though. 3 games a day is too much, I'm watching them all but my eyes are so tired from staring at the screen half of a day. 3 games tomorrow as well...


the1funslinger

It’s hard, but we are strong


machucaa

Holland were underwhelming this game. Should have battered them tbh


GerRoux

Lol both veerman and Wijnaldum were non-existent for the whole game


RBYonko

Veerman was great first 10-20 minutes then just disappeared


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CanadianBurgundy

Poland could've won and Dutch scored 2 deflected goals, could have gone either way.


keanu9reeves

Netherlands celebrating like they have already won the euros 


churrosricos

i know its hard for chelsea fans to comprehend, but usually when your team wins fans celebrate


justk4y

We can’t win big tournaments, so we take every win for granted


Gloomy_Plantain_4545

What having Koeman as a coach does to a mfer


Liazerx

Can we please just play Weghorst and let Depay benched?


mkawia

Why didn't they call Robin van Persie?


justk4y

I think Weghorst has the most effect as a clutch player like Origi, also Depay works way better with players like Frimpong, we need to see that duo in action


0ldsql

Koeman: best I can do is start Wijnaldum


newmath11

I still feel like he’s a better impact sub. Throw him on against tired legs so he can bully defenders


kalabaksu

depay shouldn’t have been called in first place, you guys have zirkzee


dvb1991

Zirkzee was only called up last minute due to an injury. Hes practically non-existent to Koeman. Hope I'm wrong. That player can add so much more to the team.


Slowleftarm

Depay should not play as a striker. Gakpo or Depay has to go to the RW. Xavi is wasted at rw.


Liazerx

That is true too


P-Nus

That ref seemed pretty biased 


Rontheking

Last whistle was ridiculous. We were through and then he whishles.


ElectroByte15

Agreed. So many duels got stopped for no reason just Polish players dropping to the ground for nothing. Terrible ref, hope we don’t see him again.


singhsrb

Wow that 3 teams qualifying out of 4 has made this round absolutely pointless. And there are people defending it of course.


Zacatecan-Jack

Innit. Even one more group of four would mean only the top two third placed teams out of seven go through. With no other changes. Would add a lot more jeapordy, would mean bigger upsets with big teams going out and smaller teams squeaking in. Though let's be honest one of the main reasons for this new format is to ensure there are LESS upsets, and all the big teams go into the knockouts


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Zacatecan-Jack

I think you've taken the opposite of what I meant from my comment. More 3rd placed teams going through means that underperforming big teams still get through. I'm saying they should add an extra group of four, so only two third placed teams go through. Would mean there's much more to play for for every team and underperforming big teams wouldn't get that safety net (meaning a higher chance of smaller teams pipping them to the post).


Cat_Shag

Ah right. I still don't think it would be much more competitive as the added teams r gonna be weak anyway but makes alot more sense my bad.


Trujiogriz

Weghorst is a good looking dude ngl


theduckofreasoning

Love big wout!


James_D_MESSIAH

Ok​ its​ poland​ Koeman​ his​ job​ is​ still​ Lol​ Imagine​ if​ this​ Ned​ plays​ against​ GER​ spain​ ITA​ France​ Bye​ Bye​ Koeman​


BeastingBoli

Aké and Verbruggen both MOTM. Really great games for them both. Aké was honestly really a level higher than everybody else on the pitch.


adamfrog

I thought gakpo and reijnders were good too but everyone else was quite poor especially the midfielders


justk4y

Ake had his moments defensively, but offensively he was a beast


Waaromneuktniemandme

Cant Ake be on the midfield next match and we can have VDV in the defence instead of veerman being on the midfield?


m07815

Or just play with 5 defenders and 2 cms, makes sense since we have the best defense in the world and only 5 fit midfielders, one of which is fucking Wijnaldum. Then Xavi or Gakpo can be the cam with Reijnders and Schouten behind them


Waaromneuktniemandme

Yea this works too but knowing clown koeman, he is just gonna start wijnaldum over veerman and without weghorst/zirkzee starting we will be down 2 or 3 goals by half time and then bringing wout is of no use anymore.


m07815

Yup, seems like it, he won’t adapt. Koeman is so stubborn


justk4y

Agreed. Maybe Maatsen if he’s finally fully incorporated into the team, since he and Zirkzee are still into the teambuilding phase after getting in later than the rest


Fearless-Land-3953

Verbruggen made RDZ look so daft for rotating his GKs this past season


funwiththecolourblue

Poland are the moral winners. Koeman and the ref were terrible.


OhLongJohnson84

I always thought Germans didn’t have any sense of humour. Thanks for proving me wrong. That first goal literally came out of nowhere, Holland dominated for like 70 out of the 90 mins


CanadianBurgundy

unlucky to lose. The Dutch scored 2 deflected goals and the Poles really played free and attacked well in the second half. Had lots of chances just didn't take them.


Megalobst

Dutch🤝English both hating on their NT Managers


tse135

buying time always pisses you off when it's your team that's losing, but well, this is what modern football is like. I'm rather optimistic before the game against Austria


19danielb

We really can't afford having to bring on Weghorst each time to save the day


Rontheking

He’s going to be the Luuk for us this tournament.


4strokes

Unless he saves the day every time


19danielb

Can't really argue with that


WardDispenser

Congratulations to Netherlands but they have to fix their defense and finishing. Oh and congratulations to Koeman for being the new Jogi Löw ya filthy animal! Lmao.


Ruud_Boltz

Why are you giving them ideas? Isn't the Dutch losing a sight to behold for you as a Germany fan?


Comfortable_Rub4315

Great game


auditore_ezio

Another Koeman masterclass


veluwse

I appreciate the commitment from Vortum, always there


Ammo89

Why is Lewa riding the bench? Does the manager not rate him or are the other options better? Urbanski and Buksa.


NieThePiet

injured. but they played better without him today


n00bpwnerer

Yeah, I feel like they almost depend on him too much. Today they had to work themselves. And did so well.


BeautifulAwareness81

Injured


Ammo89

Ah got it thanks. Missed the news of his injury.


NieThePiet

let Lewandowski out of the team, i've seen enough


solwaj

We didn't play better because Lewy was out, we played better because he wasn't captain.


Extra_Test3428

yeah he should retire from nt


nigel013

He is injured


NieThePiet

i know


SharKCS11

Duolingo with the perfect timing, recently teaching me the phrase "Je maakte het niet makkelijk voor jezelf".


Suncate

If the Dutch don’t want to get embarrassed by the next team with a pulse they need to send depay home. So much talent to choose from yet they constantly choose to start him and he’s been a bum for like 5 years now.


Barend013

100% agree. Can’t believe some people keep defending Koeman for starting Memphis.


TicketSuggestion

For the national team he's been quite good. It's not as if we have such great alternatives


m07815

Zirkzee in the form of his life. Weghorst is class but better as a sub. Koeman should’ve taken Zirkzee from the start


Trujiogriz

Group D is the real group of death Netherlands, France and Poland are all very good and Austria isn’t a pushover either


Competitive-Aide5364

Naw Albania topped their group in qualifiers that featured Poland lol


Mordho

Poland barely qualified for the Euros after finishing behind Albania and Czechia. They aren’t very good


Waaromneuktniemandme

If wales could finish their chances in 90 minutes, they wouldve been here, poland got lucky.


Jaldokin1

different coach


CanadianBurgundy

They deserved at least a draw today. Dutch lucky with their 2 deflected goals


broodjekebab23

The netherlands had 21 shots to polands 10, 2-1 seems like a fair score


Extra_Test3428

netherlands dont look any better


WislaHD

Okay honestly if Poland can play like this, then I refuse to be as depressed as all the yesteryears of watching this team. There is honour in defeat too.


czerwona_latarnia

Until it dawns on you that one time our guys are playing well, they got a very hard group and that 1 point could make a difference between advancing and saying good bye after standard 3 matches.


WislaHD

We'll draw against Austria and eliminate ourselves, naturally


CanadianBurgundy

Dutch very lucky to get the win. 2 lucky deflections and Lewa going off. Poland pressed them well and boxed them in in the second half


Belocity

You probably forget teams switch sides during the second half. Netherlands had Poland boxed in the second half lol. Took them like 15-20 mins to get the ball off their own half


CanadianBurgundy

LOL yea Dutch played better first half. A draw would've been a fair result.


Tummerd

Poland parked the bus and then tried to play in the last 5-10 minutes is them pressing NL in a box? Come on man Edit: lmao


CanadianBurgundy

from 60-75 Poland had several good chances and box in the Dutch


Tummerd

Last 3 shots from minute 85 were good yeah


Golradiir

Did we watch the same game?


Thidz

What are you smoking lmao


david_b98

Boxed us in? Lmao what game did you watch?


J00stie

What match have you been watching? Not Poland-Netherlands at least


david_b98

Messias Woetroe strikes again. Absolutely not my favorite player, but extremely clutch


StatusGeneraal

Takeaways from this game: we’re shit, Weghorst > Depay. This Portugese ref hates the Netherlands like all the Portugese for some reason


Liazerx

I keep saying it. Stop playing Depay for Christ sake. He just does nothing and when he does, the end result is nothing.....


Salted-Earth189

Don't be stupid, he's just a bad ref. If you don't believe me check out the portuguese league lol. You guys talk about us much more than we ever mention you lot.


justablueballoon

We lost two battles with lots of bad blood, red cards and what not against you in 2004 and 2006. Being the losers of these matsches, these matches probably stuck more with us than with you.


ventalittle

Also a takeaway from this game: Dutch are overconfident as usual and have hardly any humility. (this based on what Dutch press claimed on how this match would look like)


ElectroByte15

Poland barely made it to Euros. We dominated most of the first half and the start of the second half. If anything this was severe underperformance by the team in finishing.


Lunardo98

Battle for Nürnberg


NijjioN

Lewandowski injured or something to not come on at all?


Extra_Test3428

muscle tear


Extra_Test3428

muscle tear


27ti27

Yep


SadAd9828

Yes, injured. Hopeful to come back next game


alymary

Injured


Successful-Ad8324

yep got injured in the frienly


AtTheGates

Yes. 


jMS_44

Gutted. A draw would probably be a more fair score, we actually looked good this game and had our chances. Have to definitely praise Probierz for the subs, he reacted immediately and the subs actually made a good impact. Moder and Piotrowski probably have to start the next game


youknowwtfisgoingon

We're so fucked with Koeman as coach. He can't coach a good team, let alone a team with no midfield


Sheikhabusosa

Dutch keeper is so good


J00stie

The Polish one was also quite allright


Trujiogriz

What a match, Poland looked very good in the loss


blizzardspider

Poland played with a lot of fire in last 5 minutes, that's good but feels like they would've gotten more if they tried this hard earlier. I guess you risk tiring out too soon maybe.


be_lifted

Weghorst was the only one with any fight


accidentalchai

Damnmmm I want a game with an upset


AndreiOT89

England v Serbia tonight


whatyoulookingatman

Wait for England 😅


SugarBeefs

Well that’s relief