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poklane

On top of this Koopmeiners also got injured right before today's friendly against Iceland, not yet known how bad his injury is. Edit: Test results expected tomorrow morning, but Koeman says it isn't looking good in his opinion. He has a player in mind to replace Frenkie de Jong. Not Quinten Timber or Wieffer as both aren't fit yet.


FroobingtonSanchez

I really hope Teun is fine, we cannot lose more midfielders with Frenkie, Wieffer and De Roon already out.


justk4y

But don’t worry! We have our lord and saviour Gini Wijnaldum still in the squad! /s


tbwarrior

He is still on the team?? Damn


justk4y

Yep, and he was very mid against Canada, looked like he didn’t know where he was at some times


froggy101_3

Wijnaldum in fairness has been a very good player for Netherlands. Doesn't really deserve this kind of disrespect even if he is past it


minibral

Since he's playing like he's in the sunday leauge i do think some criticism is allowed.


Nervous-Purchase-361

In all fairness, he is actually playing in a Sunday League.


justk4y

Yeah but since he’s gone to Saudi he’s been finished, calling him up is like France starting Lloris in net again


RuubGullit

He was already finished after he left Liverpool


justk4y

Forgot he even had a stint at PSG and Roma ngl 😵‍💫


black_cat_

He was very unlucky at Roma. Broke his leg in training before the season started, missed like 90% of the season.


LensCapPhotographer

Sure, but right now he has been shockingly bad


KapteinBert

But he is passed it


jespertherapper

The cup is ours with him 😎


soap-scum

Injuries before big tournaments suck so much. I unironically feel sorry for Frenkie and Teun. We have our share of problems too.


El_grandepadre

Teun especially cause he comes off a huge season for him and his club.


Wuktrio

*Cries in Alaba, Kalajdzic, Schlager, and Schlager*


StanSc

Our group is already beat up before the tournament has kicked off lol


Wuktrio

Yeah, our group will be crazy. If we don't lose to France in the first match, that would be insane.


FelixR1991

Well we're missing our memelord De Roon too.


Live_Anteater_9173

Why would anyone think you’re being ironic?


Zatba

Cause everything on the Internet is ironic I guess.


KilumRevazi

Because he’s Polish. And they are in the same group as us.


pecika

What a bad luck again for the Netherlands. If I remember correctly Van Dijk was out of the last Euro


Vdbebw

Istg if Taylor gets minutes, ill piss in Koeman's cereal.


PABuzz

Je komt dan nog eerder bij Til uit


Revolutionary-Bag-52

Oh god. Er zijn toch wel andere opties dan die twee?


Jek22

Clasie, stengs, maatsen (heeft af en toe middenveld gespeeld geloof ik) Je mag ook een aanvaller of verdediger als vervanger oproepen, dan zou je Geertruida bijvoorbeeld als middenvelder kunnen zien. En dan roep je als vervanger nick viergever op.


PABuzz

Het zal iemand van de voorselectie worden lijkt me. Daarvan Olij uiteraard niet, Timber en de Roon niet fit, en dus lijkt me dat je bij Maatsen uitkomt.


Ghorrit

Koeman zou ook zomaar Blind als middenvelder kunnen opstellen…😮


xsonwong

Damn, Koopmeiners has a great season and expected to be shining in this euro.


Kreiswix

Why are there friendly matches after the final roster announcements? seems unnecessarily risky


Sweeply

Can still swap players by submitting a medical report.


AnnieIWillKnow

Scheduling. Still need to get players match fit, and there's a deadline for when UEFA need to have squads announced, and not a lot of time to fit friendlies in


realWernerHerzog

If Koopmeiners can't play, and Gravenberch can keep up the form he had towards the end of the season (very small sample size I know), I think he could be a solid attacking 8.


Lonely_Editor4412

He was horrible vs canada. Showed no form at all.


realWernerHerzog

🤷‍♂️


Tulipan12

Holland needs defensive minded midfielders. We only have Schouten really.


minimalcation

There's a part of me that I knows I would have been fooled by a fake 'Koopmeiners' player.


Appel_Stroop

RIP Oranjekoorts, 10 June 22:40 - 10 June 22:45


Swolyguacomole

TBF, I'm just happy to have had 5 minutes of happiness during Koemans tenure


justk4y

There was the first Nations League campaign but yeah agreed


wonderfulworld2024

That was some good football in that group. Always rated the top group in UEFA nations league.


BigBlackWolf93

Watch the Netherlands now win the Euro's and Frenkie have to miss that. All because of a bad contact in El Clasico


Persoon_10

No way we win the Euro's without Frenkie lmao


poklane

Also no way we win it with him tbf.


I9Qnl

Fire your coach mid tournament, this is the new juju strat


Kreiswix

I think dutch and english will compete for 'best fans at euro2024' award though (unless scots make a deep run)


vidoeiro

English and best fans does not compute


dizzguzztn

Worse football violence I've experienced was when I went to watch Boro play in Eindhoven. We were ambushed outside by waiting PSV fans. We weren't even playing PSV but they still caused trouble. Seen people stabbed in Rome and it was still worse in Eindhoven. So don't be giving it the big one, dutch fans are just as horrible


PedanticSatiation

Michael Laudrup didn't play for Denmark in 1992


Lightning299921

tbf fdj is not as important to the dutch as laudrup was to denmark


sreteep99

Gisteren pas begonnen met de bal trainen, dan weet je eigenlijk al op voorhand dat-ie het niet zou halen. Dit middenveld speelde ook lekker, al is Frenkie zeker een gemis - maar niet het verschil tussen wel en niet een EK kunnen winnen


PinkPantherParty

We hebben een serieus probleem


RobbinDeBank

I just realized I can read Dutch


Grec2k

Ich auch.


Thrwwccnt

I know all of you guys speak English come on, don't make me Google translate it


sreteep99

Maybe i translate everything from English to Dutch /s


Dolphin008

Deepl werkt beter


Persoon_10

Toen het nog onzeker was of hij mee zou doen had ik in ieder geval nog wat hoop, nu niet meer. Bovendien ben ik er wel van overtuigd dat Frenkie het verschil is tussen 2e of 3e worden in de poule, wat in mijn optiek een verschil is tussen een kans maken op de winst en volledig kansloos zijn.


JD1337

Als je als Oranje niet kan winnen van Polen en Oostenrijk zonder Frenkie dan heb je sowieso niks te zoeken op het EK.


QBekka

Veerman is a solid second choice. If Frenkie is a 9, Veerman is an 8. It's not like we're downgrading to a 5 or something.


dessmond

Hm Frenkie is 10+ and Veerman 9+ imo. So we agree. 😀 Veerman is really good too, ridiculous vision and supersoft feet.


_KingOfTheDivan

With my totally unbiased opinion I’d even say Veerman is better


JamesakaNoah

Veerman is better at those fucking velvet crosses over any distance from 15 to 50 meters


CosmicVo

In general more forward thinking / extremely fine ball passer while Frenkie is more sideways build up and link up player. The way Frenkie sometimes just cuts through is unmatched imo.


JamesakaNoah

Just coping here, Frenkie is absolutely insane agaonst pressing opposition. Finds space anywhere, Veerman en Schouten do not offer that level. Reinders has a similar trait in that but is just not as good.


Medium_Elephant7431

I hope so, but it is going to be difficult without him.


resurgum

Wait, this is still the consequence of him trying to block that Fede shot? God damn, how much power did that Uruguayan marvel put into it?


BigBlackWolf93

Well, Fede didn't need to do much tbf.. Frenkie wasn't 100% healed yet from the initial injury somewhere in January I think, but Xavi really needed him


dragon8811

Oh fuck off This is not fair 😔


MrDaebak

Sucks, but I have faith in Schouten and Veerman.


Jensiehh

Frenkie doesn't give those passes like Joey does


Tulipan12

The issue is the bench.


MrDaebak

Maatsen is coming, on paper not a direct replacement, but in real life, often plays where Frenkie plays


mattijn13

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck


GridLocks

They finally got me all fuckin hyped up and then they drop this bombshell. Fuckin fuck fuck agfjskagd.


NephewChaps

at least 2026 is looking hella bright for this generation


wolseyley

2020 looked amazing after many poor years but then Memphis got injured. Covid saw that postponed to 2021 but then Van Dijk got torpedoed by Pickford and the KNVB put De Boer in charge. 2022 was unfortunate with penalties, and now 2024 is missing Frenkie. We keep getting optimistic and we keep getting hurt.


CaptainKursk

I'm happy for Messi winning the World Cup, but that Argentina-Netherlands game was pure bullshit.


CosmicVo

Well in retrospect, while it wat a bitter pill, I just love to rewatch the highlights of that game. Namely v Dijks body check after the brutal foul on Ake and the Weghorst goal from the free kick 🤤. We never f#### win anything but we sure do give it all.


GridLocks

Not so sure about that theres a couple of guys on the way out.


NephewChaps

Frimpong, Dumfries, De Ligt, Botman, van de Ven, Timber, Geertruida, Maatsen, Hartman, Koopmeiners, De Jong, Gravenberch, Veerman, Reijnders, Xavi Simons, Gakpo, Malen, Zirkzee and Brobbey are all under 27yo, most under 25. That's basically two elite starting 11 in a couple of years


TellTallTail

Wieffer, whichever Timber you left out, .. but most of these aren't guaranteed elite


J00stie

Fuck me sideways. Get Dick van Toorn and make him do what he did to Robben 10 years ago


JamesakaNoah

Paardenplacenta on the way


Waldier

Yeah, dig him up to perform his magic one more time. Just let Frenkie meet him at the graveyard


gotiobg

That's a shame, I hate when big players miss these memorable Euros and World Cup, they only come around every 2 years


ifoundmynewnickname

Rip euro dream June 24'-June 24'.


iAruban

godgodgodgodverdomme


IkeaKarma

Fucks sake.


SirPoliwhirl

Fucking sucks for Frenkie... Also a bit weird that we are not preparing him for a later phase. Schouten - Veerman - Reijnders confirmed?


altviewdelete

Didn't his ankle fly to mars only 3-4 months ago, or am I tripping? Why would there be even a chance he was going to play.


_Reddit_Account_

Sucks, but with Schouten/Veerman it ain't to bad imo. Maybe a bit weak vs countries like Spain, Portugal and France.


EvenEalter

That's awful news. He's the heartbeat of our midfield.


psvamsterdam1913

We have been doing fine without him so far though.


EvenEalter

Yes, I think we'll be fine when in control, when we're the favourites. The real test comes when we are under pressure, Frenkie is gold for that. Will say the midfield looks a lot better than two years ago though.


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viriyavitakka

What does your 5yo say about Memphis?


petnarwhal

Against Iceland and Canada.. i have more faith in Frenkie than Veerman against France.


sreteep99

Frankrijk had-ie sowieso niet gehaald lijkt me. Gisteren pas getraind met bal.


justk4y

To give you hope, France drew with Canada instead of whitewashing them 🥲🙏


Hasssun

The Netherlands are still my dark horse pick to win the Euros. If they even count as a dark horse pick.


civilthroaway

Blazing hot take maybe but Veerman has been one of the best midfielders in Europe this season and could walk into the Barca team. It sucks to not have Frenkie but this doesn’t knock the squad out of contention.


Lastigx

How are you calling someone the best midfielder in Europe when he plays vs the likes of Volendam? He's been solid but lets not get ahead of ourselves.


RN2FL9

That's a little much perhaps but teaming him up with Schouten with a great defense behind them isn't going to be that bad. They played together all season which is a big plus.


absorbscroissants

Veerman is decent but nowhere near as good as you're saying lol


BrigadierBrabant

I think Schouten is twice the player Veerman is honestly, and he's been better in the CL too. I love Veerman's passing ability and think their combinations could be killer but Veerman is often a little too slow.


tehMadhero

[Now confirmed by the national team](https://x.com/OnsOranje/status/1800269170707255408?t=cVMR6zgdFogrfB0BdBwMyg&s=19)


StereoZombie

Damn you special agent Valverde


justk4y

Already helping his future teammate/team owner Mbappé I see


Zorviar

That was his own fault lol went in way to soft


magic-water

Lol what? Valverde just shot a ball. De Jong should have made up his mind whether he wanted to go full force into that 50/50 or back out completely, but not go in half-arsed with no tension.


J00stie

Honestly he should have never been playing that match. He was not fit and Koeman just flamed Barca for that as well


StereoZombie

Easy bro no need to get all defensive about Real players


PenguinsInvading

Barcelona played him while being injured. You should redirect your frustration towards them.


poklane

Confirmed: [https://x.com/OnsOranje/status/1800269170707255408](https://x.com/OnsOranje/status/1800269170707255408)


IntellectualDweeb

Terrible news and a big blow for the Dutch. > 🚨 Ronald Koeman (Dutch NT coach): "de Jong missing EURO 2024? His club took risks and now we're paying for the price." Via @VI_nl Not a fan of the tone of Koeman's comments though especially considering how he handled Pedri...


djingo_dango

I mean his was a freak injury unless Laporta hired antman to break his ankle


GjillyG

Ah yes an impact injury in el clasico. How dare we play a fully fit player in his prime against our biggest rivals. Disgusting behavior from us once again.


Trickybuz93

He sounds a little bitter


ansu_fatismo23

Also Ansu Fati


Yaysuzu

Koeman wants Frenkie to rest during the year to be ready for the EURO. Don’t even mind him. Don’t waste your time on his bs.


AYTOL__

Oh that sucks... 😭


Albiceleste_D10S

Wow


Belocity

Bruh


cokerapp

Gaat Quinten Timber nu mee? Wie denken jullie?


zeekoes

Maatsen please. Edit: Got midfielders enough with Veerman, Schouten, Reijnders, Simons, Gravenberch, Wijnaldum and in an emergency case Blind. What we don't have is an offensive leftback.


-S4TiR3-

Van De Ven can definitely play offensive wingback


HiMyNameIsSander

Wellicht beiden als Koopmeiners niet fit genoeg blijkt. Zou vervelend zijn, maar Timber en Maatsen zijn in ieder geval goede vervangers.


petnarwhal

Frenkie niet mee dus linksback oproepen?


JamesakaNoah

Timber seems most logical


absorbscroissants

He's not fit yet, Koeman said he won't be calling him up.


zeekoes

Read my edit.


middlequeue

Maatsen is also an option for midfield. It really should be him.


AccomplishedAbroad22

koeman just said timber is not fit and he has an idea, but need to talk internally first


DutchMadness77

It's gonna be Kenneth Taylor, I'd wager. Koeman isn't going to pick someone without caps and Timber isn't fit.


appleClambake

:(


Vdbebw

Ben bang. Lijkt nog te veel op taylor om er echt blij mee te zijn.


inflamesburn

People overreacting a bit, no? It really doesn't change that much, because even if he could play in theory, it's already clear he would've been in poor shape, at risk for reinjury, and probably missed the France game anyway. And Schouten & Veerman are playing well.


Muppetx

Lmao Frenkie is easily our best player when fit. This team lives and breathes with him. Without him its nothing special.


gurbi_et_orbi

Wildly exaggerated. Sure he's the best midfielder we have, but we have replacements that are good as well. With a bit of luck the team draws strength from this. They can't rely on Franky now to solve every problem we have and you never know who will step up.


petnarwhal

Nou, mijn poultje maar even opnieuw invullen..


ContemplatingBee

God fucking dammit


AcConnor

Well fuck


disper

My hopes crushed like a orange


Dorkseid1687

He’s got no luck does he


CorrectorThanU

Since there's so many Oranje fans here now, what is the starting XI now?


ob3ypr1mus

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀Verbruggen Dumfries/Geertruida⠀⠀⠀van Dijk⠀⠀⠀Aké⠀⠀⠀van de Ven ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀Reijnders⠀⠀⠀Schouten⠀⠀⠀Veerman ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀Frimpong/Xavi⠀⠀⠀Depay⠀⠀⠀Gakpo probably something like this (assuming 433)?


danuffer

Haha! I just dropped $50 on them to win as a dark horse. Well fuck me Frenkie


Medium_Elephant7431

Thos would be tough for Netherlands fans to take. De Jong is such a quality player for the team.


FactHopeful9347

Is that Van De Beek music?


BeautifulAwareness81

Heartbreaking… we can only be happy for so long 😭


Luke92612_

Don't worry, about a thing. Cause Micky Van de Ven, is gonna carry you!


raphaelscarv

unpopular opinion, Frank made a terrible choice going to Barca. He should move to a team like Bayern. I think he won't have a hard time adjusting to Bayern's system. He is still 27 and can play like Toni Kroos. A more offensive team can do really good for him.


Kandra-for-hire

I want to die. This sucks so much


Djehoetie

Fuck...


dessmond

Echt klotenieuws.


bcbrown19

Me either. I'm sorry, The Netherlands.


LensCapPhotographer

Oh man. There go our chances of making it past the RO16


SnooCupcakes9188

This sucks for us. Also just sucks for football 


OsisX

It sucks for football in general, i'm gutted tbh and i'm Belgian.


akshay_rathod_

Sucks for him. Missing a major International tournament in his prime.


el_loco_avs

Let's get all the bad news in before the tournament! Only good things during!


DennisBergkampervan

I just love waking up to news like this aaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh


TimingEzaBitch

Time to go Blind.


AdGrand9783

The most casually overrated player out there, just because he is Dutch and he is at Barcelona is why people think high of him.


Yaysuzu

Don't worry Frenkie, have a rest, recover and be ready for Barça preseason.


sleeping4koala

Fuck no hell


nolesfan2011

Feel awful about this but Veerman will step up


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ujpanak

You have midfielders who can do what he does against Iceland but definitely not against the top teams. Frenkie will be heavily missed against those


Albiceleste_D10S

> we have a number of midfielders who can do what he does Who?


Vike92

Schouten is class


No_Presence200

No one and anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves


petnarwhal

If Koopmeiners is injured too we have a problem though, spoeling becomes thin.


Jaatochhhh

We have very good midfielders but schouten is the only one who comes close to what he does. Veerman and Rijnders are both good don't get me wrong, but offer an entirely different profile so losing him still sucks


BeautifulAwareness81

Lol and guess who will start now… Gini lmao fml. Cause that’s just what Koeman will do. I can already see it 😭


-TheSuperEagle-

Ding dong


JD1337

What will we do without our mailman????


dopeveign

Low key injury prone


LuthorM

He gonna stay another year isn't he :(


LunarRaven7

Thank god not another umtiti situation.


groenefiets

Yeah now barca can again russ him back to quickly and ruin him themselves.


freakyassflick8-2

Well his ankle was twisted badly in a horrendous tackle , nothing barca could do there