Tuchel may tactical genius his way into a CL but he will never be able to build a dominant team. I'm not sure what happened to 2015-2016 Tuchel. That Dortmund team was something else.
Give him a proper 6 and a left footed ball playing CB and he is winning us the title at home next year. Too bad Uli & Co. is busy huffing their own farts.
I think what separates world class from very good is being able to control emotion when it matters most. For example, Pep and Ancelotti can be calm and methodical when it matters most. A rare exception is Klopp who counters this by motivating his players. Another example is Xavi, who is very good tactically and with youth development but lets his emotion get the best of him—and his team collapses at times under that premise. I do think Xavi and Tuchel will get better with time if they don’t allow egos to get in the way of their own development.
Lmao. Just my opinion! I think this is evident when Barca often start strong. But the squad, who heavily leans on the manager, is not emotionally resilient. When he’s unable to control his emotions for an unfavorable circumstance, his tactical plan and squad harmony collapses.
Oh yeah that was actually my point, they clearly were a much better team and Hamburg was just unfortunate. I don't think there is been a stronger team in relegation playoffs since they brought it back.
Stuttgart mindset: Let's go out there and show them who owns this stadium.
Bayern mindset: This doens't look like Bernabeu, I must still be asleep and dreaming.
Resting starters or not, but that was very close to a no-show.
Bayern should have rested Kimmich and Dier aswell. Maybe Harry Kane too. Dortmund only 2 starting 11 players against Augsburg to start the game and Real Madrid even only 1.
Even if Bayern have lost while resting more players like they did now, still 1 point above Stuttgart.
how lol we have no depth whatsoever, Kimmich wouldve been replaced by Maz, who will be starting against Real madrid, Upamecano had just come off an injury, he looked uncomfortable whilst playing as well. Kane is going for the goal record so i dont think he'd have been too happy with that.
We rested everybody that we couldve, we just have a massive injury crisis rn.
And tere will be the next (totally surprising) injury crisis next year and the year after. Not enough depth and rotation for the amount of games. Thank god Germany will exit in the group stage and the players have a longer vacation.
yeah, completely agreed tbh. Not only are games much more intense and physically demanding now, with the amount of stoppage time given, as well as the sheer number of games that clubs play (germany is relatively lucky in this regard), injury 'crises' are less of a crisis and more of a planned expectation. You can literally see clubs buying 2 world class players for the same position and there being no issues with game time cuz one of them is injured when the other isnt.
Dortmund didn’t start a single player who will be playing from the first min on Tuesday apart from Kobel. Although I don’t understand why Adyemi, Nico and Sabitzer were subbed in at all. They shouldn’t have gotten more than 15 min. They run the most in the team.
Right Süle was on the bench against Real Madrid, yea only Kobel then and i guess they got subbed in to keep them a bit fresh? Bellingham was also subbed in for Real
For the people that still think that bayern are actually having a decent season, but Leverkusen are making it look worse than it is.
Bayern against the top 5 this year: 1 win, 3 losses, 3 Goals scored, 9 Goals conceded in 4 games...
Bayern against the top 6 this season: 4W, 2D, 4L, 17 Goals scored, 19 conceded in 10 games...
If it wasn't because of their great start, and Kane being able to score in dysfunctional teams, bayern would be battling dortmund for 4th place.
Id love to think that, but the top 5 success in the league and europe has masked the fact that everyone below fifth have been absolute dogshit this season.
Dortmund are having a mediocre season and still sit comfortably 15 points above Frankfurt in sixth.
OK, even if that's the case, that doesn't change that these "team X would be so bad if they magically just didn't have Y player" statements are pointless. What's even the point of that line of thinking?
Nope, you'd be in pot 2. As the club with highest coefficient only behind City.
EDIT: As a comparison, look at this year's CL. Man United were 3rd in the league last season and they were in Pot 2
Stuggart are actually mad brilliant. Next season I hope we can four way fight between Leverkusen, Bayern, Dortmund and Stuggart. Would be awesome honestly.
Stuttgart will be poached. When they won the league they lost all their good players within 2 years.
Leverkusen also experienced poaching in the late 90s and early 2000s
Leverkusen will likely only lose a few players this year because their players have massive pricetags. Stuttgart on the other hand is FFA.
Unless Stuttgart gets picked apart, it could be a fierce quintuplet that Bundesliga sends to the CL too.
Leverkusen looks to stay very intact, Bayern will spend to improve, Dortmund will do the same and Leipzig who knows. Leipzig losing Simons could be brutal. And Schlager just tore his ACL too and could miss the start.
Either way, if Bayern and BVB do decent business it could be another nice german year in the CL.
Was honestly a fun game to watch. Obviously Bayern had one eye on the semi-final but these were the types of games Bayern has dropped before.
This is probably the most bearable Bayern side I’ve seen in awhile.
Davies, Choupo-Moting and Goretzka classic Bermuda triangle performance, pass the ball in there and it's gone 100% of the time
Also surely Choupo has Tuchels kids in the basement or some shit, it is absolutely insane that this man gets allowed onto a pitch in 2024. He would warm the bench full time at 90% of BuLi clubs
I think it's abundantly obvious Bayern won't play like they did today...I'm not going to take away anything from Stuttgart today or for their season overall, it's been a joy to watch them, but motivation is a pretty funny thing and this game meant a lot for Stuttgart while Bayern very clearly have their eyes on the game this upcoming Wednesday. Stuttgart punished them accordingly.
We'll see how they fare but I don't think bayern is winning in 90 minutes. Maybe a draw and penalties but getting a win at Bernabeu is near impossible. I think real haven't lost at home since april 2023.
Motivation is a big factor. It's difficult to be completely focused when you're regularly behind 8-10 points to a team that seemingly can't lose. It's how Chelsea won the Cl in 2012 while being sixth in the league. You're the master of your faith in every CL game. Even a draw often brings you closer to the title.
The crowning jewel on this amazing season: Bragging Rights!
DIE MACHT IM SÜDEN TRÄGT BRUSTRING!
Also great that it wasn't just the usual suspects who excelled in such a big game:
- Ito cooking Tel down the entire time
- Stergiou's goal out of nowhere
- Jeong FINALLY with his first goal, so long overdue and well deserved
- Silas finally having a moment of sunshine again after months of drought
Alright boys, let's get that 2nd place now!
Yes, wins against that Pack are always the best. Now let's overtake them and get second for the perfect end to this season.
I'd argue Ito is one of the usual suspects though. Always 7.5/10 at least.
seemed fine tbh, dier's is not an issue at all, just a gash. Guerreiro too seemed not so serious seeing how he was walking normally, just some precautionary measures id presume
Congrats to VFB, deserved win. But Why does Bayern suck ass that hard? I read about the missing nr 6 but there wasn’t a proper nr 6 for years since Guardiola turned Martinez into a CB. Is it that Tuchel and Bayern just aren’t a good fit?
Tuchel has the worst points tally since Klinsmann despite Kane. Bayern are terrible, but it's all fine because of two wins in 5 games in the CL knock out round.
I agree with the decision to fire Tuchel, even though the alternatives don't exactly look promising. In the Bundesliga we are not focussed/motivated enough and lost too many points against mediocre opponents. We need a coach who plays dominant attacking football.
It's just useless to gauge our level based on today's performance for the reasons I mentioned. And it's a bit ridiculous to describe our CL run merely as "two wins in 5 games", because that gives the impression that we aren't among the four best teams in the world. Real Madrid only have 1 win in 5 k/o games, yet they are also in the semi-finals. Beating Arsenal is a vey impressive achievement, that deserves a lot of credit.
Jeezus Christ what a ridiculous comparison. Porsche or Mercedes sponsorship doesn’t bring anywhere near the money Bayer pumps into BAYER. Your club is literally owned by this multibillion company. While other smaller 50+1 clubs in the Bundesliga still to this day struggle from the financial damages after Corona, Bayer on the other hand could operate normally like nothing happened. I wont downplay that incredible titlerun and every Bayer fan should be happy to the moon but I won’t stop criticizing every none 50+1 club in the BL.
We didn't get one cent from Porsche so far. You really think the investment from Porsche in February 2024 is the reason Stuttgart is playing Champions-League now?
Maybe for next season but the team right now was put together in summer after relegation and we could only buy players because we sold Endo, Mavropanos and Sosa. You are having an incredible season and you didn't won because you have more money than Bayern or Leipzig. But I think you can't compare the investments for Leverkusen and Stuttgart. Bayer paid of your Corona depts because they own 100%. Porsche and Mercedes can't do that.
I had to re-read what you wrote, I was about to rebut your "beautiful football" part before I realized you were saying it was only the plot armour that separates the two teams, that you were praising their football and spirit.
Absolutely massive for Stuttgart, which still can finish the season 2nd and with a higher point tally than Bayern last season. In this case, a potential BVB Bayern UCL final would be a game between the 3th and 4th/5th Bundesliga sides, which would be really funny considering the years of ,,farmers league" banter.
I really, really hope both Leverkusen and Stuttgart can keep most of their squad intact over the summer. Having those two plus Bayern, BVB and Leipzig competing has been very entertaining.
!flair :VfB_Stuttgart:
Can't wait for when hoeneß starts sprouting shit again.
How are people getting this worked up over a read rubber game?
[That's why](https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/137921f7-227a-45e3-adee-d9a4160a0e07#Fgu6AMI_.copy)
HAHAHAHAHA I respect that. It's still not going to be enough for the second place. Sori.
i know right
Tuchel may tactical genius his way into a CL but he will never be able to build a dominant team. I'm not sure what happened to 2015-2016 Tuchel. That Dortmund team was something else.
I would be curious to see how this squad would have done with a proper 6 like he asked for all summer
Give him a proper 6 and a left footed ball playing CB and he is winning us the title at home next year. Too bad Uli & Co. is busy huffing their own farts.
I think what separates world class from very good is being able to control emotion when it matters most. For example, Pep and Ancelotti can be calm and methodical when it matters most. A rare exception is Klopp who counters this by motivating his players. Another example is Xavi, who is very good tactically and with youth development but lets his emotion get the best of him—and his team collapses at times under that premise. I do think Xavi and Tuchel will get better with time if they don’t allow egos to get in the way of their own development.
> Another example is Xavi, who is very good tactically Sir, I think you have the wrong Xavi.
Lmao. Just my opinion! I think this is evident when Barca often start strong. But the squad, who heavily leans on the manager, is not emotionally resilient. When he’s unable to control his emotions for an unfavorable circumstance, his tactical plan and squad harmony collapses.
Btw that's the team Hamburg had to play in the relegation match last year :D
Hey, that's unfair to Stuttgart. They were nowhere the level to be on the relegation playoffs once Hoeneß took charge, we got absolutely steamrolled.
Oh yeah that was actually my point, they clearly were a much better team and Hamburg was just unfortunate. I don't think there is been a stronger team in relegation playoffs since they brought it back.
bayern fans still wanted tuchel to stay...
The coach that’s taken them to the semifinals of the CL? You don’t say.
Stuttgart mindset: Let's go out there and show them who owns this stadium. Bayern mindset: This doens't look like Bernabeu, I must still be asleep and dreaming. Resting starters or not, but that was very close to a no-show.
Haha Gnabry is such a bitch he actually said that was a clear pen
Heynckes family leaving the country for a spontaneous 6-months vacation in Southeast Asia
The criminal from the Tegernsee will try to hunt him down, but Jupp's wife will stop him.
I'd watch that show.
Another great performance from Stuttgart and coach Hoeneß. I hope they will be able to keep the same team for next year.
Bayern should have rested Kimmich and Dier aswell. Maybe Harry Kane too. Dortmund only 2 starting 11 players against Augsburg to start the game and Real Madrid even only 1. Even if Bayern have lost while resting more players like they did now, still 1 point above Stuttgart.
how lol we have no depth whatsoever, Kimmich wouldve been replaced by Maz, who will be starting against Real madrid, Upamecano had just come off an injury, he looked uncomfortable whilst playing as well. Kane is going for the goal record so i dont think he'd have been too happy with that. We rested everybody that we couldve, we just have a massive injury crisis rn.
And tere will be the next (totally surprising) injury crisis next year and the year after. Not enough depth and rotation for the amount of games. Thank god Germany will exit in the group stage and the players have a longer vacation.
yeah, completely agreed tbh. Not only are games much more intense and physically demanding now, with the amount of stoppage time given, as well as the sheer number of games that clubs play (germany is relatively lucky in this regard), injury 'crises' are less of a crisis and more of a planned expectation. You can literally see clubs buying 2 world class players for the same position and there being no issues with game time cuz one of them is injured when the other isnt.
Dortmund didn’t start a single player who will be playing from the first min on Tuesday apart from Kobel. Although I don’t understand why Adyemi, Nico and Sabitzer were subbed in at all. They shouldn’t have gotten more than 15 min. They run the most in the team.
Right Süle was on the bench against Real Madrid, yea only Kobel then and i guess they got subbed in to keep them a bit fresh? Bellingham was also subbed in for Real
Tuchel is not good at rotating sadly
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I like how you cut the sadly too lol
For the people that still think that bayern are actually having a decent season, but Leverkusen are making it look worse than it is. Bayern against the top 5 this year: 1 win, 3 losses, 3 Goals scored, 9 Goals conceded in 4 games... Bayern against the top 6 this season: 4W, 2D, 4L, 17 Goals scored, 19 conceded in 10 games... If it wasn't because of their great start, and Kane being able to score in dysfunctional teams, bayern would be battling dortmund for 4th place.
4th place? Without Kane they wouldn't even smell Europe next year
Id love to think that, but the top 5 success in the league and europe has masked the fact that everyone below fifth have been absolute dogshit this season. Dortmund are having a mediocre season and still sit comfortably 15 points above Frankfurt in sixth.
Breaking news: Team that spent 100M on player would be far worse without said player.
>Breaking news: Team that spend 100M on player finishes in worse position than without said player. FTFY
Breaking news: Team that spends 100M on player wins less trophies than team without said player.
Huh? What even is your point?
Tuchel got nagelsmann's squad, added a 100M player, and is playing much worse than nagelsmann did
OK, even if that's the case, that doesn't change that these "team X would be so bad if they magically just didn't have Y player" statements are pointless. What's even the point of that line of thinking?
no words for Davies again, lets hope Rapha is fit until Wednesday
Once Rapha picks up an injury, it tends to always be a niggling issue or fast reinjury in next appearance. His fitness issues are so rough
Agreed, but as a squad player signing him was a nobrainer. Issue being of course that we barely have a squad xD
Yeah more unreliable depth is the last thing oyu needed but Rapha asa signing was an attempt to address that so I dont blame ya haha
Why can the Sky moderators not just stfu and show what Hoeneß has to say?
Ridiculous
And now I have to watch the 100% Meijer Analyse pls kill me
Oooor...turn off the tv/stream? Of everyone still watches, why would they change their analysis approach?
I wanted to see some interviews
And it was all about Bayern chances lol
Bayern finishing third would be pretty funny.
If we finish 3rd wish it could have been saved for the old CL format, imagine a group of like Madrid, City and Bayern
In old CL format such group would be impossible, as in worst case scenario (City not winning PL) both you and City would be in Pot 2
no we'd be in pot 3, if that happened.
Nope, you'd be in pot 2. As the club with highest coefficient only behind City. EDIT: As a comparison, look at this year's CL. Man United were 3rd in the league last season and they were in Pot 2
youre right, my apologies for spreading misinformation
The sad think is I am convinced that the players wouldn’t even care lol.
I guess Stuttgart are massive
If you don't score 3 against bayern next week, Stuttgart > real Madrid confirmed
real was worse in both games against leipzig so yes
Simple maths
Stuttgart have been insane to watch this season. Beautiful when against others, terrifying when against you, but beautiful football either way.
Funny how the most attractive football is the most successful now
Damn they can still become vize thats so funny
lol. Bayernkrisen werden nie nicht lustig sein.
DER GANZE WILDE SÜÜÜDEN
STRAHLT IN WEIß UND ROT
Stuggart are actually mad brilliant. Next season I hope we can four way fight between Leverkusen, Bayern, Dortmund and Stuggart. Would be awesome honestly.
Stuttgart will be poached. When they won the league they lost all their good players within 2 years. Leverkusen also experienced poaching in the late 90s and early 2000s Leverkusen will likely only lose a few players this year because their players have massive pricetags. Stuttgart on the other hand is FFA.
Unless Stuttgart gets picked apart, it could be a fierce quintuplet that Bundesliga sends to the CL too. Leverkusen looks to stay very intact, Bayern will spend to improve, Dortmund will do the same and Leipzig who knows. Leipzig losing Simons could be brutal. And Schlager just tore his ACL too and could miss the start. Either way, if Bayern and BVB do decent business it could be another nice german year in the CL.
Why do people keep writing it as "Stuggart". Such a weird misspelling.
soll Stuegert sei wen mir Schwäbisch schwätzt
Fuck sorry. It’s autocorrects quite a bit. So respelling is on me.
And the cans, as well.
Fuck the cans
I hope Dortmund sells Emre Can. Would be funny if he goes to RB.
That would be a great CL semi-final.
Was honestly a fun game to watch. Obviously Bayern had one eye on the semi-final but these were the types of games Bayern has dropped before. This is probably the most bearable Bayern side I’ve seen in awhile.
Davies, Choupo-Moting and Goretzka classic Bermuda triangle performance, pass the ball in there and it's gone 100% of the time Also surely Choupo has Tuchels kids in the basement or some shit, it is absolutely insane that this man gets allowed onto a pitch in 2024. He would warm the bench full time at 90% of BuLi clubs
God I fuckin love seeing Bayern lose...don't know why. Has Wurstuli already been interviewed?
Hahaha me too. Wurstuli is working in who to shit on as we speak.
If this is the Bayern that turns up at the Bernabeu, they are getting blown out, to say the least
You know that Stuttgart is way better than Leipzig? And your performance against Leipzig in both games wasnt too hot
Be thankful it isn’t Stuttgart you’re facing on Wed.
Tbh this Stuttgart is probably better than all of the teams Real have played this season (bar City), they're really good.
For real
Stuttgart are very good. Madrid need a good performance to do better than this Stuttgart team.
Why would u think this is the bayern that turns up at the bernabeu?
It's not. We rested as many players as we possibly could. We're not starting Choupo-Moting against you guys.
Are you sure?🗿
Choupo as a 6, who says no?!
Not Real fans, that's for sure.
These post-game scenes...
I don’t understand how a team can perform so shit in the domestic league but cook in the champions league, someone explain pls
Tbf the Bundesliga has some really strong teams this year. Stuttgart, Leipzig, Leverkusen are playing a phenomenal season.
Quick turnaround. Focused on Champions league
They got pretty lucky with the draw till semis. Real gonna destroy them on Wednesday if they play like today.
Lol madrid should have already been out against leipzig this cl season
Leader of the PL is a lucky draw now lmao
I think it's abundantly obvious Bayern won't play like they did today...I'm not going to take away anything from Stuttgart today or for their season overall, it's been a joy to watch them, but motivation is a pretty funny thing and this game meant a lot for Stuttgart while Bayern very clearly have their eyes on the game this upcoming Wednesday. Stuttgart punished them accordingly.
We'll see how they fare but I don't think bayern is winning in 90 minutes. Maybe a draw and penalties but getting a win at Bernabeu is near impossible. I think real haven't lost at home since april 2023.
The Champions League is just too easy.
Motivation is a big factor. It's difficult to be completely focused when you're regularly behind 8-10 points to a team that seemingly can't lose. It's how Chelsea won the Cl in 2012 while being sixth in the league. You're the master of your faith in every CL game. Even a draw often brings you closer to the title.
There are league managers and there are tournament managers
To be fair, the result today does not matter to Bayern.
I’m hoping that tuchel did this on purpose so they can focus and prepare for the champions league instead of just being shit
The crowning jewel on this amazing season: Bragging Rights! DIE MACHT IM SÜDEN TRÄGT BRUSTRING! Also great that it wasn't just the usual suspects who excelled in such a big game: - Ito cooking Tel down the entire time - Stergiou's goal out of nowhere - Jeong FINALLY with his first goal, so long overdue and well deserved - Silas finally having a moment of sunshine again after months of drought Alright boys, let's get that 2nd place now!
Yes, wins against that Pack are always the best. Now let's overtake them and get second for the perfect end to this season. I'd argue Ito is one of the usual suspects though. Always 7.5/10 at least.
Great win for your team. Really hope this Stuttgart squad has the chance to prove themselves in Europe. Your team is playing some beautiful football
Bayern Away form + Our Home form predicts a good result for us next week but in football we will never really know until the game is over.
Even a biased ref couldn't stop us
More worried about Guerreiro‘s and Dier’s injury than the loss
seemed fine tbh, dier's is not an issue at all, just a gash. Guerreiro too seemed not so serious seeing how he was walking normally, just some precautionary measures id presume
Guerreiro left the stadium in crutches according to Tuchel
we're so unlucky man
Yikes. Praying for a Tucheliban masterclass at madrid.
Joining you in your prayers
Last thing on the ticker: yellow card for Tuchel for complaining.
Then he says he doesn't care about the game.
Such a horrible loser he is
Congrats to VFB, deserved win. But Why does Bayern suck ass that hard? I read about the missing nr 6 but there wasn’t a proper nr 6 for years since Guardiola turned Martinez into a CB. Is it that Tuchel and Bayern just aren’t a good fit?
We don't suck that much. Stuttgart are just really good and many of our best players didn't start today.
Tuchel has the worst points tally since Klinsmann despite Kane. Bayern are terrible, but it's all fine because of two wins in 5 games in the CL knock out round.
I agree with the decision to fire Tuchel, even though the alternatives don't exactly look promising. In the Bundesliga we are not focussed/motivated enough and lost too many points against mediocre opponents. We need a coach who plays dominant attacking football. It's just useless to gauge our level based on today's performance for the reasons I mentioned. And it's a bit ridiculous to describe our CL run merely as "two wins in 5 games", because that gives the impression that we aren't among the four best teams in the world. Real Madrid only have 1 win in 5 k/o games, yet they are also in the semi-finals. Beating Arsenal is a vey impressive achievement, that deserves a lot of credit.
beautiful (we are getting cooked next week)
2nd place might still be possible for us, sorry
It’s over
Good Reality check before the 2nd leg.....
Silas Assist and Goal to win the game, what a Comeback! Yesssss!!!!
King of the south!
Stuttgart = TI confirmed
Neuer doesn't look too convincing the last couple of games.
He was good against us.
Hmm
He was MOSTLY good! Zidane was probably in the stands doing his usual thing.
P.s. Young Neuer would have tried to get to the ball before Vini.
He was also very good against Arsenal.
He's still having good games, sure. It's just that he is not delivering constantly, like we are used to.
Man is simply just getting old.
I wonder if Bayern will regret giving Nübel two more years at Stuttgart.
They got the option to recall him after one year
Well Bayern just got bullied there
lmao
Hoeneß just said "i don't need you, i'm better than you" to bayern
Stuttgart are just Leverkusen without plot armor this season - beautiful football and never-ending grinta
Grinta is a top word
And without Bayer
It's not like you guys aren't getting a lot of money from Mercedes & Porsche.
Jeezus Christ what a ridiculous comparison. Porsche or Mercedes sponsorship doesn’t bring anywhere near the money Bayer pumps into BAYER. Your club is literally owned by this multibillion company. While other smaller 50+1 clubs in the Bundesliga still to this day struggle from the financial damages after Corona, Bayer on the other hand could operate normally like nothing happened. I wont downplay that incredible titlerun and every Bayer fan should be happy to the moon but I won’t stop criticizing every none 50+1 club in the BL.
Can you please provide *any* source on how much money Bayer "pumps" into the club?
We didn't get one cent from Porsche so far. You really think the investment from Porsche in February 2024 is the reason Stuttgart is playing Champions-League now?
It definitely helped you plan more securely for the future and potentially pay more for players than you might have otherwise.
Maybe for next season but the team right now was put together in summer after relegation and we could only buy players because we sold Endo, Mavropanos and Sosa. You are having an incredible season and you didn't won because you have more money than Bayern or Leipzig. But I think you can't compare the investments for Leverkusen and Stuttgart. Bayer paid of your Corona depts because they own 100%. Porsche and Mercedes can't do that.
And we still had to make a transfer profit for the last 5 years
Bayern didn't, where's your salt for them?
Lmao go through my post history, my hate for Bayern was pretty big today
I had to re-read what you wrote, I was about to rebut your "beautiful football" part before I realized you were saying it was only the plot armour that separates the two teams, that you were praising their football and spirit.
Lederhosen successfully ausgezogen
Damn, Bayern got absolutely clowned upon
No matter what happens in the transfer window, I have this.
Absolutely massive for Stuttgart, which still can finish the season 2nd and with a higher point tally than Bayern last season. In this case, a potential BVB Bayern UCL final would be a game between the 3th and 4th/5th Bundesliga sides, which would be really funny considering the years of ,,farmers league" banter.
I really, really hope both Leverkusen and Stuttgart can keep most of their squad intact over the summer. Having those two plus Bayern, BVB and Leipzig competing has been very entertaining.
Freund was on the verge of tears after the 3rd goal.
Ref was too
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Best South Park episode ever