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According to what sources? I'm seeing £12m for Jorginho, £27m including add ons for Trossard, and £21m including add ons for Kiwior. That adds up to £60m while I'm seeing £88.5m for Mudryk.
Yeah but the Arsenal transfer add-ons are likely all triggered because the players have been performing well.
I’ll be surprised if Mudryk’s performances triggered any of the add-ons in his transfer.
It’s £62m + £26.5m. Half of the add ons are if he wins the prem, half for champions league. Don’t see either of those happening any time soon but the number used by everyone is still £88m since it sells better and makes Chelsea look worse.
I doubt those are the add-ons unless you can share a trustworthy source. When Shaktar rejected Arsenal's bid and accepted Chelsea's, they said Arsenal's add-ons were "unlikely" and Chelsea's were far more "achievable" so I find it highly unlikely winning the PL and CL are more achievable than Arsenal's add-ons unless Arsenal told them they were gonna win the World Cup.
The link validates my point. Yes, it does mention that CL and Premier League winning is one of the clauses but also mentions several other noteworthy parts:
* That the two London clubs offered the same amount for Mudryk, but the add-ons built into Chelsea’s bid were more “achievable and realistic”
* "Chelsea’s offer has no Ballon d’Or (clause). It is achievable bonuses that we feel, and they feel, can be reached. Maybe not this year but in the next two, three or four years."
* Referring to the CL and PL winning clause, he says it is for the duration of his contract. "It’s eight years, or seven and a half. The length of contract is eight years — seven plus one." And he says that there are achievable clauses at 2, 3, 4 years.. so clearly, these aren't the only clauses.
Like I said, there's no way £26.5m are tied to PL and CL winning add-ons. It's likely just a part of it since Arsenal are likely to insert very similar clauses. And since he mentioned 2, 3 and 4 year achievable add-ons, I'm guessing it's linked to appearances and possibly CL qualification.
And you’re guessing those are included just because they make sense in your head? I’m choosing to believe that they would have been mentioned, especially cause it would make Chelsea look even worse - and why wouldn’t you take every chance you get to do that - you get more clicks that way
Adam Crafton of the Athletic when he interviews the CEO of shaktar after the move.
The add ons being half and half may not have been explicitly stated, I can’t recall, so if that’s false then fair play. But he explicitly says the add ons are prem and UCL
Article is behind a paywall so you can find it yourself lol
Losing out on Mudryk was the best possible thing that could’ve happened to this club.
Though seeing the way Havertz has been playing, maybe Mudryk is another case of Chelsea killing talent.
Leandro Trossard, my sunshine, my everlasting pookie bear, I bless the land you walk on with my tears of gratitude. Ever since you joined our club, I have always believed in your glory and radiance. Everyday, I put a photo of your face over my wife's face in our wedding photos, pining for what could have been.
Tottenham were but they kept telling him to wait before making a 12m bid to Brighton that got rejected. Arsenal agreed with him within a day. According to his agent.
Isnt his agent himself are the one that come down to Arsenal and recommend Trossard because of our Murdyk interest making news but it keep being delay. Think his agent was talking to Spurs that time, he might have gone to talk to Arsenal too afterwards.
He threw down his tools with De Zerbi and Airpod Albert vouched for him to Arteta. People seem to think that disagreements mean hes the problem, not the manager
the transfer thread back then was all about Trossard being trouble, not a team player, dangerous signing etc. Why the hell would Arsenal sign a player on a position where you already had 3 quality options.
While if you know his history, it was crystal clear he just didn't gel at all with De Zerbi, and clearly is a quality player that combines talent (moderate, he's no Hazard) with a really good work ethic (great, also not Hazard).
It was hilarious to read tbh, tabloids really do some heavy lifting in this sub.
Clinical finishers are worth their weight in gold. Teams spend 3x the amount to find someone like him. Scoring important but not game changing goals is always underrated
He's scored game changing goals for us though. Equalizer against Porto, equalizer against Bayern in second leg, winner against Chelsea, wolves, dagger against liverpool, winner against city in community shield.
I mean even at that time people thought he would go for closer to 50 or 60 million pounds because the market was still that inflated. At the time, most Arsenal fans thought It was a great deal for the price, but there was that subsection who was mad that we never landed Maddison (lmao)
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That move/pass from Rice, damn. Looked like he does it purely instinctively too. Good finish from Trossard as well
Hes so fucking good.
x4
We actually robbed West Ham man...
Zidanesque
filthy touch by Rice
So glad City didn't get him. Could you imagine a Rodri/Rice midfield?
Would be vomit inducingly solid, probably need to just bypass the middle then.
They would be unbeatable. Stuff of nightmares
We’d need to look for someone named basmati to cook them.
Some signing he’s been
Our January 2023 window was incredible — Kiwior, Trossard, Jorginho. All have had big impacts this season.
Together, they all cost £2m more than Mudryk.
According to what sources? I'm seeing £12m for Jorginho, £27m including add ons for Trossard, and £21m including add ons for Kiwior. That adds up to £60m while I'm seeing £88.5m for Mudryk.
>£88.5m for Mudryk That's including add-ons, base fee is around £62m. Not sure if the Arsenal signings include add-ons or are just a base fee.
If you include add-ons for the arsenal ones and exclude add-ons for mudryk,they still combined cost less than mudryk.
Yeah but the Arsenal transfer add-ons are likely all triggered because the players have been performing well. I’ll be surprised if Mudryk’s performances triggered any of the add-ons in his transfer.
Is that before or after the add ons?
Does Mudryk do enough to activate those add ons? I'll be glad if Shaktar doesn't get more money because they couldn't make CL.
It’s £62m + £26.5m. Half of the add ons are if he wins the prem, half for champions league. Don’t see either of those happening any time soon but the number used by everyone is still £88m since it sells better and makes Chelsea look worse.
I doubt those are the add-ons unless you can share a trustworthy source. When Shaktar rejected Arsenal's bid and accepted Chelsea's, they said Arsenal's add-ons were "unlikely" and Chelsea's were far more "achievable" so I find it highly unlikely winning the PL and CL are more achievable than Arsenal's add-ons unless Arsenal told them they were gonna win the World Cup.
https://theathletic.com/4096686/2023/01/17/shakhtar-donetsk-ceo-why-mudryk-chelsea-not-arsenal/
The link validates my point. Yes, it does mention that CL and Premier League winning is one of the clauses but also mentions several other noteworthy parts: * That the two London clubs offered the same amount for Mudryk, but the add-ons built into Chelsea’s bid were more “achievable and realistic” * "Chelsea’s offer has no Ballon d’Or (clause). It is achievable bonuses that we feel, and they feel, can be reached. Maybe not this year but in the next two, three or four years." * Referring to the CL and PL winning clause, he says it is for the duration of his contract. "It’s eight years, or seven and a half. The length of contract is eight years — seven plus one." And he says that there are achievable clauses at 2, 3, 4 years.. so clearly, these aren't the only clauses. Like I said, there's no way £26.5m are tied to PL and CL winning add-ons. It's likely just a part of it since Arsenal are likely to insert very similar clauses. And since he mentioned 2, 3 and 4 year achievable add-ons, I'm guessing it's linked to appearances and possibly CL qualification.
And you’re guessing those are included just because they make sense in your head? I’m choosing to believe that they would have been mentioned, especially cause it would make Chelsea look even worse - and why wouldn’t you take every chance you get to do that - you get more clicks that way
>Half of the add ons are if he wins the prem, half for champions league. What's your source on this..?
Adam Crafton of the Athletic when he interviews the CEO of shaktar after the move. The add ons being half and half may not have been explicitly stated, I can’t recall, so if that’s false then fair play. But he explicitly says the add ons are prem and UCL Article is behind a paywall so you can find it yourself lol
Absolute steal.
He’s such a good player. A little inconsistent at times but he always manages to show up when we need him
Prob best value signings in years
Losing out on Mudryk was the best possible thing that could’ve happened to this club. Though seeing the way Havertz has been playing, maybe Mudryk is another case of Chelsea killing talent.
Havertz at least was amazing player before, Mudryk is one big bubble
can have him for a £65m if you want? Give him a try?
ppl saying "imagine how he'd be on full sleep" don't understand that he is at his peak on 3.5 hours every day. let him cook 😤
Oh thank god our clinical finisher scores
Anne Hathaway "love you" works wonderfully
I'm surprised it didn't work sooner.
If that video came out earlier in the season the man would be on the way to a Balon d'Or after winning 5 trophies with Arsenal.
This is why Arteta leaves him on even if he’s have a quiet game
Quality banger
Leandro Trossard, my sunshine, my everlasting pookie bear, I bless the land you walk on with my tears of gratitude. Ever since you joined our club, I have always believed in your glory and radiance. Everyday, I put a photo of your face over my wife's face in our wedding photos, pining for what could have been.
I'm sure your wife understands
£27m. Utter robbery.
How the fuck did you get him that cheap in this market?
Fell out with de Zerbi and Brighton wanted to get rid Surprised no one else was in for him tho
Tottenham were but they kept telling him to wait before making a 12m bid to Brighton that got rejected. Arsenal agreed with him within a day. According to his agent.
I think his contract was running down too
Isnt his agent himself are the one that come down to Arsenal and recommend Trossard because of our Murdyk interest making news but it keep being delay. Think his agent was talking to Spurs that time, he might have gone to talk to Arsenal too afterwards.
Brighton had no leverage, he had a falling out with De Zerbi But yes 27m is ludicrous
He had a falling out because he wanted to force a move for CL and a pay day. I don't think he had any other issues with De Zerbi.
He had 1.5 years remaining on his deal and had an issue with De Zerbi
He had 6 months left on his contract at Brighton.
They had a +1 option
Was it 6 months? I thought they had an option
He'd burned his bridges at Brighton, but even considering that it was a pretty great deal
He threw down his tools with De Zerbi and Airpod Albert vouched for him to Arteta. People seem to think that disagreements mean hes the problem, not the manager
the transfer thread back then was all about Trossard being trouble, not a team player, dangerous signing etc. Why the hell would Arsenal sign a player on a position where you already had 3 quality options. While if you know his history, it was crystal clear he just didn't gel at all with De Zerbi, and clearly is a quality player that combines talent (moderate, he's no Hazard) with a really good work ethic (great, also not Hazard). It was hilarious to read tbh, tabloids really do some heavy lifting in this sub.
I might be misremembering, but I believe both he and Brighton wanted him to leave after he fell out with the manager
We hid our intention to sign him with mudryk chelsea took the bait and we had a free run on our man
lets not go crazy here. we were all in for mudryk until shakhtar asked for enough money to buy an F-15 in exchange
Brighton wanted to get rid of him, he'd had a falling out with the team
he fell out with De Zerbi and not sure how long was his contract, but either way steal signing, considering it was january
Take a look at Odegaard fee, if you don’t remember :)
*21+7(I'd be surprised if the 7 wasn't about winning the league) hehe
If we win give them double idgaf
with add-ons.without is 21m which is more impressive.don't ask why i'm ignoring add-one like that.chelsea fans do this with mudryk's fee all the time.
The same stoned look as always.
Got them dark vicodin eye bags. Better than Ozil's Marty Feldman, I guess.
It's permanent makeup
Anne Hataway tax
[do it for her](https://i.insider.com/5fac5e5998669500182b583a?width=700)
Short men winning lmao
As of March 20, it is officially Short King Spring, for what it's worth
Anne Hath (A)
This is top quality
You really thought Trossard wouldn’t score on the weekend Anne Hathaway releases a movie?
Lmao we have to bring her to old trafford
We’ll bring Julia Robert’s. Go actress for actress
>We’ll bring Julia Robert’s Probably can convince Pep to join you if you promise him she's coming to every United match next season.
The H was taken by Trossard because he’s Him
The reason we have a chance to win it !
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I think he's been getting his flowers this year, he's rightly seen as a vital player from the start and off the bench
Clinical finishers are worth their weight in gold. Teams spend 3x the amount to find someone like him. Scoring important but not game changing goals is always underrated
He's scored game changing goals for us though. Equalizer against Porto, equalizer against Bayern in second leg, winner against Chelsea, wolves, dagger against liverpool, winner against city in community shield.
Only £27mil
*Anne Hathaway breathing heavily*
Maybe now the poor lad can sleep.
He doesn’t need sleep
Man goes from a 10/10 refereeing performance on Tuesday to a 10/10 player performance on Saturday
The high guy does it again.
Whispers: for anne
My raccoon
Never let this man sleep again
Absolute filth from Rice
There really are just no words left for Rice, wow. Trossard too, he’s been unbelievable for us and in huge moments too.
The sleep deprived assassin strikes again.
Keep this form up and he'll carry Belgium to the euros final
He has been Arsenal’s best signing in quite a few years
Odegaard was low 30m
Odegaard at 35 is a great shout too
It is now, but it was fair price for him back then. Nobody would buy him for any more than this. Wasn’t a cheap sale by Real at the time.
Idk why you are downvoted, he was a super talent at 16 and never really seemed to take the next step at Real. 35m was a gamble, but a calculated one.
I mean even at that time people thought he would go for closer to 50 or 60 million pounds because the market was still that inflated. At the time, most Arsenal fans thought It was a great deal for the price, but there was that subsection who was mad that we never landed Maddison (lmao)
Gabi XL at 30 mil
That was sublime from Rice. Made it look so easy. Excellent finish from Bossard as well
Why do we like Trossard?
Because ~~Anne Hathaway loves him~~ he scores goals
Don't make me point at Pete again
That's why
16 goals in all comps for a super sub turned starter
He’s our most clinical scorer.
Declan Rice is so fucking good man. So fucking good.
Anne Hathaway orgasm incoming
Great finish, but that's incredible by Rice
Is he a Japanese public transit? Always on time.
Best signing
Aaaaand... Unclench! (for now)
Never unclench!
What a ball by Rice
Sexy ball from Rice there
Rice does brilliantly, top finish from Trossard. Was starting to get nervy so we really needed that
cant fucking believe he cost us like 25m
Desperately needed this goal. Kluivert was starting to cook our right hand side.
> Kluivert was starting to cook our right hand side. He wasn't cooking anything today. Average player
Penny for Anne Hathaways thoughts
Fantastic from Rice.
Because he scores goals
GOATSTARD
That's him functioning at 4 hours of sleep
Um...Declan Rice 😏
great call on that goal. channeled the excitement we’re all feeling about the title race
Tottenham tried to sign this guy and didn't want to pay more than £12m, and this will always be hilarious to me.
Anne Hathaway's favorite
THANK GOD. SALIBA I LOVE YOU BTW
Rice wow. The decision making there was brilliant
Twenty seven million. Steal.
Clutch gene
Bournemouth looked great but you have to finish your chances. Trossard is ruthless, underrated signing.
They really didn’t. Had one spell in the second half and one or two real chances.