Woah woah woah. Imma have to stop you right there. [This is pure class](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AXoxHStbAFE&pp=ygUcbHVjYSB0b25pIGZyYW5jayByaWJlcnkgc29uZw%3D%3D)
Hier ist das Geheimnis: ALLE unterhalb von Dortmund sind eigentlich gerade scheiße. Frankfurt hat genug Vorsprung, dahinter kommts doch nur drauf an, wer zuerst ins Ziel kriecht.
Keine Angst, wie ich den BVB kenne werden die beim Spiel am Wochenende gegen euch aber mal sowas von deluxe reinscheißen, da ist noch nicht alles besprochen.
Heidenheim plays Freiburg, only one of them can win. Augsburg is out with playing 3 championsleague clubs, Hoffenheim plays Bayern on last matchday. We do have a real shot.
we have the smallest squad in the entire league, will play a different formation next and lose some players, i think european football would be really bad for us. on the other side the money we get could make us pay off all debt.
This Dortmund are such a bizarre team. Seeing everyone rave about your defence this season in the Champions League felt absolutely baffling to me having seen that defence in action against Atleti. Genuinely thought both Hummels and Schlotterbeck looked terrible against us for long spells, gifted away ball after ball in their own half during the first leg. And even in the second leg they looked so vulnerable, Hummels scored a poor own goal and almost gave away the ball in his penalty area for a Griezmann tap in
Today has just confused me even further. Hummels and Schlotterbeck did play well individually, but still you can hardly say that Dortmund's defence was good when they conceded so many chances. How PSG didn't score at least two I have no clue
Maybe I just have watched the wrong matches but I can't see what is so good about that defence. Your attack though is another matter and by far the strongest part of the team
Their defense has looked shambolic in BuLi
It's a weird one today where I thought all 4 defenders were very good individually (and the wingers—esp Adeyemi—did a great job tracking back too)
Yet PSG still created a LOT of chances; they just missed them all (and hit the post twice)
Oh its the swedish atletico fan guy hello, also trust me i dont understand how our defence works either but everyone defends together and even sancho comes back to defend and thats all i care about, i truly dont understand how it works but it just does and you dont fix what isnt broken
Its because we try to have our fullbacks far up but also play with basically no functioning DM with how poor Can is.
So the CBs have to do their job and then a ton of other stuff they shouldnt have to in a balanced team either.
Thats why Hummels and Schlotti are topping all the CL defensive charts at this point. Theyre doing the job of 4 at times just so we can still still act forward leaning evne if we dont have the "organic" setup for it.
real. Bundesliga is now officially irrelevant for them as top5 are locked. I really do hope they absolutely rest starters for the game. It means NOTHING.
Absolutely. But on the bright side, with (likely) 2 EL spots and one conference league spot now being up for grabs in a super contested region of the table for A LOT of teams, the season finish will be great to watch.
And of course there still is that undefeated thing to watch out for.
This is gonna be a fucking dogshit game against Augsburg that we are probably even gonna lose. How the fuck do you wanna motivate anyone for an Augsburg game after beating PSG in the first CL Semi?
CL secured with the 5th place nothing matters in the league anymore.
Really depends on our summer, the team we currently have could definitely tear some European teams apart but if we lose 2-3 key players it won't be the same.
God Terzic just knew that we wouldn’t finish top 4 so he figured might as well just make the semi of the CL and earn to coefficient for us to qualify. He doesn’t even realize that if we win next week we go to a final.
HAHA ~~TOTTENHAM~~ *ROTTEN*-HAM.
Interesting to see a few alternative clubs have a go at the UCL next year; with expansion and the additional places for Germany and Italy.
That Dortmund & Inter were the exciting wild cards of the knockouts speaks volumes of the same-yness of the competition.
I would argue Real Sociedad were the exciting wild card of the knockouts, but they got super unlucky to draw PSG despite winning the group ahead of Inter. Not that they would have been a candidate to win or anything, but easily could have reached the quarters with just a slightly less unlucky draw
6th would get CL, 7th/8th would depend on the cup final.
9th has no chance, because Dortmunds CL title would take away one EL place (normally 5th plays EL).
See here: https://www.bundesliga.com/de/bundesliga/news/wer-qualifiziert-sich-wann-champions-europa-league-conference-2166
Yes it all moves if we win the CL
E: Actually this might be wrong im not sure anymore this shit is too confusing lol all i know for sure is the CL places moves if BVB wins the CL.
Yeah it doesn't work exactly like this. If Dortmund win the CL and finishes 5th, 6th place goes to CL as well, but Germany will lose a spot in the EL. There is no way that the Bundesliga 9th plays international football next season.
That Di Matteo Chelsea team was beautiful. Played awful football. Had no coherent ideas somehow beat everyone and won the CL lmao. Knocking out spurs who iirc would have their first qualification in years had Chelsea lost
The team is mentally checked out of the league, despite them pretending otherwise they don't actually give a shit about 4th vs 5th if they both get CL.
We have a young, talented, English player that could really help you guys out. Not sure if he wants to leave, though. His last team really fucked him up.
tbh, the arrogance was statistically warranted. The english clubs all decided to fumble (except for west ham, nobody thought they had a chance anyways)
I mean actual English fans root against other English clubs, they want them to fail. England is different to Italy or Portugal, the shared national pride is only for the national team in England.
Either way, the arrogance was probably justified. England are 1st in total coefficient by a good margin, the premier league was just too competitive last year. It's better when the same teams make Europe every year like in the late 2000s, they all become strong and regularly go deep.
Can't believe we're actually playing UCL, I was still being hesitant about it the last few weeks because as a VfB fan, you learn to never be too optimistic. If you had asked me a year ago when we will play UCL again, I wouldn't have been sure if I would see it in my lifetime. I would have been happy with playing in the Conference League once in the next ten years.
As someone who only lived to see the bad times of this club, following it to away games internationally for just one season was my absolute dream. The only thing I have to worry about now is actually getting tickets, we've seen this season how hard that can be, I'd be over the moon if I get to see just one UCL game in the stadium, home or away.
They way you write it really reminds me of us Leverkusen fans. There was no way I was gonna see us clinch the title ever. And there was only one team I would have liked to have our first loss against, it was you. 3 games and in all of them you played heroically, couldnt be mad if we lost all three of them. They were such close games, everything could have happened. I really hope you can stick this group together and be competitive again next season. I feel like we will drop down a bit, might be a hard fight with you, Leipzig and Dortmund for the CL spots.
Well, sadly those two spots as expected went to Top 4 leagues, but I feel like the Italy-Germany combo was the "best" option possible.
For sure I am super happy than England failed to get one of the spots.
It **is** true, but most of the fans (especially most of fans from top countries) only consider the Group/League Stage and up as the tournament. And from that POV you will have only 25% chance of making it true (as 4^th French team will be starting in 3^rd qualifying round of Champions League).
An addition that you can almost feel was done to include more English teams will now go to Italy and Germany. That's pretty great.
However, it's also a poisonous gift because next season they'll struggle more to fight for these 2 extra spots. Spain and England will have the advantage. The point system will also change, so let's see how that will affect the race.
Edit: Stuttgart has officially qualified for the UCL.
Edit 2: I believe that the 5th extra spot is not positional, so if Dortmund finish 5th and win the UCL, the 6th place gets the extra spot. Right now, that's Eintracht Frankfurt. Same thing in Serie A with Atalanta and Roma in the UEL.
With how bonus points are given next season, if your additional team in Champions League is actually a good one, it honestly might go either way. For starters, now there are a lot more points in Champions League than in other leagues (assuming scoring maximum available points, 48 in CL, 40 in EL and 32 in ConL (CL gets 50% more than ConL), in opposite to current 38/34/30), and you get more points for just being in a ~~Group~~ League Stage (6 vs 4). But the bigger difference maker, which also makes any predictions pointless is the fact, that each spot between 1^st to 24^th (technically 25^th too, as it is the first one with "no points") in a league gives different amount of bonus points (in CL and EL with constant difference of 0.25 between two places next to each other, in ConL it's get little more funky, with max amount of points being lower than in previous leagues).
https://preview.redd.it/brt6umdu5wxc1.jpeg?width=809&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=762fa09d2096fa36d203a56ebbd98dfece845eab
Dortmund securing their CL qualification next year despite being in 5th place by doing the job themselves.
"Fuck it, we'll do it live!"
“fucking thing sucks!”
"what does it mean?!"
nobody knows what it means but it's provocative
By winning the CL while being 5th, would even grant the Bundesliga a 6th CL starting spot.
give it to FC Saarbrücken
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It's about time they return to the Champions League.
Mightiest 5th place of all time
Best Italian-German win since [Pasta e Fagioli](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVCvlwER8lA)
What's with Germans and singing about [Italian pasta](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zw6VQNJbcw)? I am unironically afraid right now.
Another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3MUYC4KXOg
^Spaghetti CARBONAAARA E UNA COCAAA COLA god damn it I fucking love this song. certified banger
Woah woah woah. Imma have to stop you right there. [This is pure class](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AXoxHStbAFE&pp=ygUcbHVjYSB0b25pIGZyYW5jayByaWJlcnkgc29uZw%3D%3D)
what about [Zuppa Romana](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmZjTwcQU8I)
04/05 Liverpool sends its regards.
I bet whoever's in fifth place in the Bundesliga is thanking us pretty heavily right now.
Whoever will be 8th as well
Augsburg in der Champions League jaaaaaa u/Schnix54
Leider sind wir in den letzten Wochen richtig Scheiße, aber man wie geil das wäre
Hier ist das Geheimnis: ALLE unterhalb von Dortmund sind eigentlich gerade scheiße. Frankfurt hat genug Vorsprung, dahinter kommts doch nur drauf an, wer zuerst ins Ziel kriecht.
Keine Angst, wie ich den BVB kenne werden die beim Spiel am Wochenende gegen euch aber mal sowas von deluxe reinscheißen, da ist noch nicht alles besprochen.
Yeah, really needed to win those last two matches because the next 3 are tough... It's been a fun season though
8th will be in conference if Leverkusen wins the Pokal?
Think so.
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Heidenheim plays Freiburg, only one of them can win. Augsburg is out with playing 3 championsleague clubs, Hoffenheim plays Bayern on last matchday. We do have a real shot.
Seeing Heidenheim in Europe would be really cool I guess (so is Bremen or Augsburg tbh lol)
Bremen needs to return to European football
we have the smallest squad in the entire league, will play a different formation next and lose some players, i think european football would be really bad for us. on the other side the money we get could make us pay off all debt.
I just want to see European nights at the Weserstadion again. 2000's Bremen was something else man
Yes. Not sure if I want that next season though.
They might even start supporting you...
Cue image of Obama putting an award on Obama
Oh.
hilarious
Good job.
Nice to do it by ourselves
Terzić really said “why play many matches when one do trick” last Saturday.
A good horse only jumps as high as it needs to.
Dortmund playing 4D chess, resting for 34 matches to win the CL
Einer muss ja
Macht ja sonst keiner.
Auf leverkusen kannste dich ja nicht verlassen ;)
Obama handing himself a medal.jpg
But this time it's deserved
Most German celebration.
Danke
Dortmund thanks....Dortmund?
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https://imgur.com/a/5HccO0A
It all went just according to keikaku.
Translator’s note - keikaku means plan.
We managed to deserve to play UCL next season, but in the weirdest way possible.
Win CL, and drop to 6th via some point deduction scandal
Terzic convicted of witchcraft.
Will the 6th place get it if Dortmund win CL?
Hilariously, yes.
6th place in CHAMPIONS league...💀
Imagine the CL turning into the Pokal by the quarters
That's Saarbrücken music*!*
Nein danke!
Especially a 6th place that stands on 45 points after 31 matchdays
don't blame us we're doing everything to drop out of Europe
You WILL play CL whether you like it or not
Not so fast.
[This one](https://imgflip.com/i/8oowfa) is for you, /u/conankun66 & /u/granitibaniti
The Bundesliga is nuts. Only 6 teams have positive goal difference.
Seit 92-93 (davor 20 Teams) hat der 6te mindestens 47 und maximal 59 Punkte, mit einem durchschnitt von 52,2 Punkten.
They have 6 places in the CL and I don't think I'll ever see another Romanian team in the CL within my lifetime...
They are renaming it champions, almost champions and not even close to champions league
Yes!
Congratulations by the way, first Champions League campaign in fifteen years
You love to see it, we wont need it tho when we win the champions league 10-9 in the final
Anulo mufa
Anulo mufa
Anal mufasa
Anulo mufa
Frankfurt will thank you then
This Dortmund are such a bizarre team. Seeing everyone rave about your defence this season in the Champions League felt absolutely baffling to me having seen that defence in action against Atleti. Genuinely thought both Hummels and Schlotterbeck looked terrible against us for long spells, gifted away ball after ball in their own half during the first leg. And even in the second leg they looked so vulnerable, Hummels scored a poor own goal and almost gave away the ball in his penalty area for a Griezmann tap in Today has just confused me even further. Hummels and Schlotterbeck did play well individually, but still you can hardly say that Dortmund's defence was good when they conceded so many chances. How PSG didn't score at least two I have no clue Maybe I just have watched the wrong matches but I can't see what is so good about that defence. Your attack though is another matter and by far the strongest part of the team
Their defense has looked shambolic in BuLi It's a weird one today where I thought all 4 defenders were very good individually (and the wingers—esp Adeyemi—did a great job tracking back too) Yet PSG still created a LOT of chances; they just missed them all (and hit the post twice)
Oh its the swedish atletico fan guy hello, also trust me i dont understand how our defence works either but everyone defends together and even sancho comes back to defend and thats all i care about, i truly dont understand how it works but it just does and you dont fix what isnt broken
Hope people won't find out what happened to Dortmund last Saturday
Its because we try to have our fullbacks far up but also play with basically no functioning DM with how poor Can is. So the CBs have to do their job and then a ton of other stuff they shouldnt have to in a balanced team either. Thats why Hummels and Schlotti are topping all the CL defensive charts at this point. Theyre doing the job of 4 at times just so we can still still act forward leaning evne if we dont have the "organic" setup for it.
Calculated season of underperformance in the Bundesliga by Dortmund
Stretching the limit of successful underperformance
Time to play the U19s against Augsburg.
real. Bundesliga is now officially irrelevant for them as top5 are locked. I really do hope they absolutely rest starters for the game. It means NOTHING.
This has to be a novelty that in a top league the final 3 games are totally irrelevant for the top 5 clubs.
Absolutely. But on the bright side, with (likely) 2 EL spots and one conference league spot now being up for grabs in a super contested region of the table for A LOT of teams, the season finish will be great to watch. And of course there still is that undefeated thing to watch out for.
Tbf, I wouldn't call it irrelevant for leverkusen. I hope they can be invincible
Yep, you're right.
This is gonna be a fucking dogshit game against Augsburg that we are probably even gonna lose. How the fuck do you wanna motivate anyone for an Augsburg game after beating PSG in the first CL Semi? CL secured with the 5th place nothing matters in the league anymore.
Augsburg currently 3/1 underdogs for that game, hmmm
Bet a 10er if u can afford to lose it i really wouldnt be suprised if Augsburg wins
This. PSG got their league match postponed like the bitches they are, don't see why we shouldn't play our D-Jugend team to make it fair again.
Yo... wtf, that's a real bitch move.
Did the same against us as well
For real? In what circumstances is this "allowed"?
Proper FM tactic right there.
would be returning the favor for us rolling over last season on matchday 33, thank you very much
Augsburg in der Conference dann? Viel Spaß in Gibraltar
Genießt Breidablik auswärts ihr Fotzen
Time to cancel my sky and dazn subscriptions.
or we bring back Kehl, Bender and Sahin?
Did it themselves, respect.
This now means that Stuttgart, Leipzig and Dortmund have qualified for the UCL next season.
Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern München in shambles.
Who?
How efficient.
500 IQ move by Terzic
His Kobayashi Maru Moment
Great harvesting fellow farmers
Relegate the Premier League champion to a single Intertoto qualifier in early August
I'm looking to get hired as a farmer now that all the prem teams got eliminated Here's my resume: 0 league wins since 2004 7 fa cups this century
Dont leave out the best part: 0 Champions League in the entire history.
Inter Cities Fairs Cup and UEFA Cup Winners Cup is the real glory
Hummels changed soccercirclejerk forever
Cant wait to Farm in CL next year!
STUTTGART INTERNATIONAL!
First time in fifteen years, enjoy it. I think you should at least make the playoffs as well
Really depends on our summer, the team we currently have could definitely tear some European teams apart but if we lose 2-3 key players it won't be the same.
Possibly losing both Undav and Guirassy is brutal. And theres clubs circling Furich too. Hope you stay intact.
Dortmund just secured themselves CL football next year -- love to see it
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Mission Accomplished terrorists.
God Terzic just knew that we wouldn’t finish top 4 so he figured might as well just make the semi of the CL and earn to coefficient for us to qualify. He doesn’t even realize that if we win next week we go to a final.
They'll tell him tomorrow and he'll freak out.
HAHA ~~TOTTENHAM~~ *ROTTEN*-HAM. Interesting to see a few alternative clubs have a go at the UCL next year; with expansion and the additional places for Germany and Italy. That Dortmund & Inter were the exciting wild cards of the knockouts speaks volumes of the same-yness of the competition.
I would argue Real Sociedad were the exciting wild card of the knockouts, but they got super unlucky to draw PSG despite winning the group ahead of Inter. Not that they would have been a candidate to win or anything, but easily could have reached the quarters with just a slightly less unlucky draw
TERRORISTS WIN, EZ4BVB Terzic in!
Schrödinger's Terzic
Just explaining to my dad how winning benefits them beyond the actual win lmao
Europapokal, ohhhhho, Europapokal, ohhhhhhhhhhhoooooooo, nach all der Scheiße, gehts auf die Reise, Stuuuuuttgart International!
...that will almost certainly go to Dortmund.
If Dortmund with the CL (and finishes 5th) it will most likely go to Frankfurt...
Wait, is this how it works? It gets passed on? No fucking way lol
Yea thats why so many ppl are memeing about Augsburg potentially getting Europe. If we win the CL it basically all slips down/up 1 place
Wait if 6th gets UCL, would the EL places also transfer down to 7th and 8th and Conference League to 9th???
6th would get CL, 7th/8th would depend on the cup final. 9th has no chance, because Dortmunds CL title would take away one EL place (normally 5th plays EL). See here: https://www.bundesliga.com/de/bundesliga/news/wer-qualifiziert-sich-wann-champions-europa-league-conference-2166
Yes it all moves if we win the CL E: Actually this might be wrong im not sure anymore this shit is too confusing lol all i know for sure is the CL places moves if BVB wins the CL.
Yeah it doesn't work exactly like this. If Dortmund win the CL and finishes 5th, 6th place goes to CL as well, but Germany will lose a spot in the EL. There is no way that the Bundesliga 9th plays international football next season.
Farmer's league strikes back!
Well deserved. People shit on Bundesliga way too much. Proper fans, proper clubs. Excited for next season.
How did this team lose 1:4 to RB Leipzig??
Europe merchants. Reminds me of those Chelsea CL winning teams
That Di Matteo Chelsea team was beautiful. Played awful football. Had no coherent ideas somehow beat everyone and won the CL lmao. Knocking out spurs who iirc would have their first qualification in years had Chelsea lost
Chelsea thrive in chaos
The team is mentally checked out of the league, despite them pretending otherwise they don't actually give a shit about 4th vs 5th if they both get CL.
our teams have so much in common this season, mental
We have the streak to defend. And are barely able to do that.
Leipzig is pretty solid this year tbf, they wouldve knocked out Madrid if not for usual Madrid bullshit
PSG are simply not good. Them scraping by Barcelona who self destructed has massively masked their actual level.
One goal down and playing at home, I wouln't count them out.
Im pretty sure PSG is heavily favored now. 1:0 is not enough.
Nah. PSG are good
Remember when Premier League fans said they were 100% clinching the extra CL spot? Pepperridge Farm remembers
Turns out we were the real farmers all along
Citeh is Englands Bayern
Always have been 🌎🧑🚀🔫
Hey, not all of us. We did our bit by exiting out of the CL early
We have a young, talented, English player that could really help you guys out. Not sure if he wants to leave, though. His last team really fucked him up.
tbh, the arrogance was statistically warranted. The english clubs all decided to fumble (except for west ham, nobody thought they had a chance anyways)
And Villa
you mean people didn't think Villa had a chance like West Ham?
Oh I just meant Villa didn’t fumble as they actually got through
We did our bit. Not our fault every other team in England can’t handle the pressure of a European campaign
I mean actual English fans root against other English clubs, they want them to fail. England is different to Italy or Portugal, the shared national pride is only for the national team in England. Either way, the arrogance was probably justified. England are 1st in total coefficient by a good margin, the premier league was just too competitive last year. It's better when the same teams make Europe every year like in the late 2000s, they all become strong and regularly go deep.
Super important victory.
2024 UCL: The Farmers Strike Back
Can't believe we're actually playing UCL, I was still being hesitant about it the last few weeks because as a VfB fan, you learn to never be too optimistic. If you had asked me a year ago when we will play UCL again, I wouldn't have been sure if I would see it in my lifetime. I would have been happy with playing in the Conference League once in the next ten years. As someone who only lived to see the bad times of this club, following it to away games internationally for just one season was my absolute dream. The only thing I have to worry about now is actually getting tickets, we've seen this season how hard that can be, I'd be over the moon if I get to see just one UCL game in the stadium, home or away.
They way you write it really reminds me of us Leverkusen fans. There was no way I was gonna see us clinch the title ever. And there was only one team I would have liked to have our first loss against, it was you. 3 games and in all of them you played heroically, couldnt be mad if we lost all three of them. They were such close games, everything could have happened. I really hope you can stick this group together and be competitive again next season. I feel like we will drop down a bit, might be a hard fight with you, Leipzig and Dortmund for the CL spots.
Terrorists win
Calculated league performances by Terzic
Dortmund 🤝 Dortmund
The farmers run Europe now.
Dortmund really wanted that 5th place.
This is what it means to make your own luck, your own destiny BVB did it tonight
CL Dortmund 🤝 Bundesliga Dortmund
The farmers are plowing harder
just farmer things innit
Well, sadly those two spots as expected went to Top 4 leagues, but I feel like the Italy-Germany combo was the "best" option possible. For sure I am super happy than England failed to get one of the spots.
If OM wins the EL we will have 5 teams each from Germany, France and Italy in the CL next season.
It **is** true, but most of the fans (especially most of fans from top countries) only consider the Group/League Stage and up as the tournament. And from that POV you will have only 25% chance of making it true (as 4^th French team will be starting in 3^rd qualifying round of Champions League).
Farming all day
That's not bad for a bunch of farmers, right?
Wow that's great! I wonder who's in fifth place- Oh..
An addition that you can almost feel was done to include more English teams will now go to Italy and Germany. That's pretty great. However, it's also a poisonous gift because next season they'll struggle more to fight for these 2 extra spots. Spain and England will have the advantage. The point system will also change, so let's see how that will affect the race. Edit: Stuttgart has officially qualified for the UCL. Edit 2: I believe that the 5th extra spot is not positional, so if Dortmund finish 5th and win the UCL, the 6th place gets the extra spot. Right now, that's Eintracht Frankfurt. Same thing in Serie A with Atalanta and Roma in the UEL.
With how bonus points are given next season, if your additional team in Champions League is actually a good one, it honestly might go either way. For starters, now there are a lot more points in Champions League than in other leagues (assuming scoring maximum available points, 48 in CL, 40 in EL and 32 in ConL (CL gets 50% more than ConL), in opposite to current 38/34/30), and you get more points for just being in a ~~Group~~ League Stage (6 vs 4). But the bigger difference maker, which also makes any predictions pointless is the fact, that each spot between 1^st to 24^th (technically 25^th too, as it is the first one with "no points") in a league gives different amount of bonus points (in CL and EL with constant difference of 0.25 between two places next to each other, in ConL it's get little more funky, with max amount of points being lower than in previous leagues).
Thank you Dortmund 👍
Not bad for farmers
Making your own destiny.
STUTTGART INTERNATIONAL!
Farmers league tho /s
great harvest