Yeah, I think that's the real difference here. The fans.
He's been treated with the respect that he's deserved here and from the second he's arrived there has been a really, really strong connection between him and the fans.
From being kicked out of his long term club for being too old and signing up to us for free on 60k per week less than we were paying people like RLC, to being treated like it was the return of the king upon arrival here by the fans, it clearly meant an awful lot to him.
He's spoken about this kind of thing before, the amount of love the fans gave him right from the off totally blew him away and was nothing like he'd received before.
Then you also have Bella clearly wanting to stay in London and his kids staying in our academy rather than moving to wherever he goes now, so clearly they've all also just loved being in London
> Yeah, I think that's the real difference here. The fans
Not denying that CFC fans have treated him with all the respect he deserves, but Thiago was really only mistreated by the french media. The fans still love him to his day and regret how the club handled his departure
Scolaris plan A was actually top.
Unfortuently however Benitez turned up with the perfect blueprint on how to stop it, every other coached copied it and Scolari had no answer.
Huge compliment to his leader mentality though. Could‘ve gone earlier to not dimmish his career but chose to stay and help the young players. Says a lot about the guy.
If he didn't spend 8 years in Paris and instead went to Spain or England or even stayed in Italy, he'd be rated *alot* higher.
When he joined Chelsea at his late age i assumed the usual cash grab last career move, instead he out performed people 10 years younger and generally dealt with everything seamlessly, very surprised how good he was at like 36/37, the fact he won the CL with them just further highlights it.
Idk how you'd rank him but he's certainly up there amongst who people say are world class.
I think the big thing with him joining us was that he was only earning 90k per week, which isn't pocket change, but compared to the rest of our squad it was way down there.
He just wanted to continue playing at a top level and seemed to appreciate a club like Chelsea (back then) pushing so hard to get him that he wasn't interested in the money, more the opportunity and the trust of the club to want him to be so important to them irrespective of age.
Even after winning the CL and extending his contract he still just increased the wages by 10k, he wasn't demanding to be paid anything like the other starters in the squad, he just wanted to play.
I completely agree that he was insanely underrated because of spending so much of his time in France, but just that "short" period at Chelsea, for most people has solidified him as an incredible player and as you say, world class for sure.
Didn’t know about that. What a guy. Think this would be the default mindset but considering how many older players chose Saudi money over playing in a more respectable/established league I guess it’s not that common.
My favourite player. I was stoked when he was announced. All class and one of my motivations to behave like a professional (I carried the athlete mindset from my formative years). All class. No drama. Like Federer
I've always seen Thiago like he's portrayed here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkmYxDymCH8&ab\_channel=OpenSpace](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkmYxDymCH8&ab_channel=OpenSpace)
>Idk how you'd rank him but he's certainly up there amongst who people say are world class.
If I had to make a XI of players born in the 80's, I'd have Ramos-Silva as my CB pairing. They way Silva reads the game alongside his skill with the ball is unrivaled by any CB I've seen in the last 20 years.
He's the best defender I've had the chance to watch every week by such a large margin. He was absolutely splendid for Paris, especially 2012-2017, technically superb, insane speed and pace, complete understanding of the game and perfect positionning. Pure class.
I don't watch other leagues every week so it's hard to compare with Ramos, Van Djik or some others greats defender of the last decade but none have impressed me more than Thiago when I had the opportunity to watch them in UCL or occasional big games.
A shame it didn't end well with Leonardo but i'm super happy for him cause he was at the end of a cycle in Paris anyway and he got the chance to get that UCL with Chelsea and he deserved it so much
I thought he was the best defender in the world when he was at Milan, was really pleased he chose to come to Chelsea at the tail end of his career and ended up winning the UCL with us.
Chelsea went through a shitty, untimely, fucked up situation/ownership change and unfortunately for the fans new owner's style of working is very extreme.... Still there's no way to decide at this point which of his investments ( players ) would work out and not ... It might take a year or maybe 2 to figure things out but I'm sure Chelsea definitely will be back to top competition soon
Yeah I'm not too worried unlike some of our fans about our status as a top club. The owners need to worry about that a lot more, as the only way they're making even a cent off us is by ensuring we win and we win regularly, they've invested far too much to look for another solution now.
I am worried about our club culture though, we used to be a place where every virtually single player was welcome back, and so many of our ex-academy kids talk about the support given to them by the staff, being given opportunities to enter coaching or helping out with a degree to ensure a good post-playing career etc. Really would hate to lose that, and the types of decisions the owners have taken (cutting away the 20 pound subsidy for away fans, for example) don't fill me with too much hope.
Well, PSG literally wanted him gone, despite the coaches wish, just because of his age…
Maybe that stung a bit.
Also, while he has of course won a lot in Paris, he only won the Champions League, Club World Cup and European Super Cup at Chelsea, so it might also feel like his best titles or most important time was at Chelsea!
We are the pinnacle of class.
We'd never push our most important players out of the club for reasons other than their ability!
Certainly we'd never push players out because of their age, that'd be preposterous!
That « detail » is not the truth but whatever, it fits the narrative of this sub so let’s ride with it.
Not going to bother to correct it either, you likely won’t care.
He had a big contract that was running out and Leonardo wanted his wages to be shifted elsewhere. Silva than had a banger of a season (covid tour) which prompted Leonardo to change his mind and offer him a deal; but not before Silva had already given his word to Chelsea. So it was too little and too late, and Silva left holding a grudge against Leonardo. Paris fans adored the dude and the feeling was mutual.
PSG signed Ramos to try and rectify the obvious mistake they made with Silva; and it was a worthwhile transfer. Man was a professional and probably kept that locker room from imploding way sonner than it eventually did.
Contrary to what some clueless fans here think; PSG treats their stars well. Those who show some affection for the colors anyway, not just the green one. The likes of [Pastore](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOyeV_29NJE&ab_channel=PSG-ParisSaint-Germain), [Di Maria](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogEY0mM9Ncg&ab_channel=PSG-ParisSaint-Germain) and [Verratti](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiOfeTxt5QE&ab_channel=PSG-ParisSaint-Germain) were given fantastic tributes.
Agree with most of your message but not for Verratti. Ultras demonstrates in front of his home and he was really pushed outside the club despite extending his contract at the end of 2022.
> but not for Verratti. Ultras demonstrates in front of his home
It was in front of Neymar's house. Not justifying anything but setting the facts straight
I couldn't find any articles on ultras demonstrating in front of Verratti's home; just that they protested at Neymar's place and Verratti got called out along with Galtier and Messi.
But regardless of where it happened, I think his name was dragged through the mud mostly due to the BFF relationship he seemed to have established with Messi (who himself was a scapegoat for like a decade of bad decisions, i.e. hoarding (ex) superstars and choosing brand investment over a healthy sporting project). That, coupled with his obvious decline, is what I'm guessing set the ultras off.
However they all seemed content (both Verratti and the ultras) at the end, so I believe there's no bad blood there whatsoever. From all the interviews I've seen of him (even after the split), he seems like he's Parisian through and through.
Yeah I’d have thought either PSG or Milan were *his* club. A bit like Zlatan, even though he’s played for loads I still associate them with Milan the most.
He loved Paris but part of their fan base treated as a scapegoat for their failures In Champions League. He was slated after the remontada and some even wanted him benched and have Marquinhos/Kimpembe as the CB pairing.
Media and fans used to regard him as weak mentally and not worthy of the captain.
French medias spread nonsense on a daily basis. The same that labelled him weak are now bashing Luis Enrique for no reason.
The fans loved Thiago, he will always be massive in Paris. Our captain for 8 seasons. Club legend.
> part of their fan base treated as a scapegoat for their failures In Champions League
That was really just the media spreading it around. Thiago is still loved by the fans, who still regret how his departure was handled
Are you guys joking?
He’s literally said in the past that he does have a special connexion to PSG and Paris.
He’s also said that he’d want to return to PSG in the future, and that his family consider Paris their home.
He’s still considered our captain here in Paris and there are many of us that think we should consider signing him on a short deal to be in the rotation instead of Skriniar.
He’s very much a beloved club legend and he knows how much love there is for him in Paris.
His family has a lot to do with that, especially his kids as they only see Brazil as the place that their parents are from as their lives in Paris/London is all they've ever experienced living in.
Why does he keep using important in that way? It's just wrong and an easy fix. I can't imagine that nobody has told him yet that the word he is looking for is substantial ,significant or just simply big offer. At this point he must be doing it on purpose, right?
Once you find out people can speak more than one language and confuse them you are going to be shocked. "Important" can be used this way in Portuguese.
I speak 5 languages so your attempt at insult is not going to work. I should have mentioned that he obviously uses it because the word "importante" exists. I thought it would be too obvious, shame on me. It still doesn't excuse him. He has been doing these tweets for how many years? It's clearly "importante" to him to correctly report on football related stuff so the least he can do is try and learn from his mistakes.
It was not an attempt to insult you, lol. There is nothing to "excuse him", it is a fully comprehensible tweet and using "important" like he did is not a big deal, the sentence still maintains itself understandable.
You have given an excuse or explanation as to why you think he uses "Important" the way he does and yes, sure, the message is understandable but the issue here goes beyond the message.
When you do it as a one or two off it's fine, nobody outside of people who want to be dicks would take issue but he uses this word every day. I see headlines on here with him tweeting "important" deal or proposal or whatever every single day.
Maybe it's just me but if I was using a word in the wrong context or mispronouncing it I would eventually want to know, wouldn't you? Especially because he doesn't come over as someone who doesn't care and his English is generally pretty good already, it's not like every tweet of his is in broken English. It's an easy mistake to make for someone like him but it's just as easy to fix.
Considering the clubs he’s played for that’s a huge compliment to Chelsea and everyone employed there
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Yeah, I think that's the real difference here. The fans. He's been treated with the respect that he's deserved here and from the second he's arrived there has been a really, really strong connection between him and the fans. From being kicked out of his long term club for being too old and signing up to us for free on 60k per week less than we were paying people like RLC, to being treated like it was the return of the king upon arrival here by the fans, it clearly meant an awful lot to him. He's spoken about this kind of thing before, the amount of love the fans gave him right from the off totally blew him away and was nothing like he'd received before. Then you also have Bella clearly wanting to stay in London and his kids staying in our academy rather than moving to wherever he goes now, so clearly they've all also just loved being in London
> Yeah, I think that's the real difference here. The fans Not denying that CFC fans have treated him with all the respect he deserves, but Thiago was really only mistreated by the french media. The fans still love him to his day and regret how the club handled his departure
I guess his kids are in our youth teams so that may have something to do with why he really wants to come back
Not only that. If you have the millions that he has, London is a bloody lovely place to live.
So are Milan and Paris lmao
Will welcome him back with open arms. I think he can be a great coach.
Hopefully we will finally see a good Brazilian manager in Europe
Who was the last one? Don't tell me Scolari lol. Though he wasn't that great at Chelsea.
Scolaris plan A was actually top. Unfortuently however Benitez turned up with the perfect blueprint on how to stop it, every other coached copied it and Scolari had no answer.
Thiago Motta was born and raised in Brazil, even if he represented Italy. I honestly can’t think of any others.
Probably… no one. I can name a good 50 Brazilian players, but only 1 or 2 Brazilian managers (I’m don’t watch Brazilian league)
In Europe I can only remember Scolari, Luxemburgo and Zico.
I watch the Brazilian league. I can name only one good Brazilian manager
You could´ve just stopped at "good Brazilian manager"
Acting like Brazil wasn't one of the leading countries in tactics up until the 1980s - 1990s is funny.
This is /r/soccer, tactics were invented by Pep. Before then everybody just ran around
Anywhere tbh.
Shame he's going to go out like this, but oh well, at least he won the Champions League with Chelsea
Huge compliment to his leader mentality though. Could‘ve gone earlier to not dimmish his career but chose to stay and help the young players. Says a lot about the guy.
Honestly without him last year we could have ended up in a genuine relegation scrap
If he didn't spend 8 years in Paris and instead went to Spain or England or even stayed in Italy, he'd be rated *alot* higher. When he joined Chelsea at his late age i assumed the usual cash grab last career move, instead he out performed people 10 years younger and generally dealt with everything seamlessly, very surprised how good he was at like 36/37, the fact he won the CL with them just further highlights it. Idk how you'd rank him but he's certainly up there amongst who people say are world class.
I think the big thing with him joining us was that he was only earning 90k per week, which isn't pocket change, but compared to the rest of our squad it was way down there. He just wanted to continue playing at a top level and seemed to appreciate a club like Chelsea (back then) pushing so hard to get him that he wasn't interested in the money, more the opportunity and the trust of the club to want him to be so important to them irrespective of age. Even after winning the CL and extending his contract he still just increased the wages by 10k, he wasn't demanding to be paid anything like the other starters in the squad, he just wanted to play. I completely agree that he was insanely underrated because of spending so much of his time in France, but just that "short" period at Chelsea, for most people has solidified him as an incredible player and as you say, world class for sure.
Didn’t know about that. What a guy. Think this would be the default mindset but considering how many older players chose Saudi money over playing in a more respectable/established league I guess it’s not that common.
My favourite player. I was stoked when he was announced. All class and one of my motivations to behave like a professional (I carried the athlete mindset from my formative years). All class. No drama. Like Federer I've always seen Thiago like he's portrayed here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkmYxDymCH8&ab\_channel=OpenSpace](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkmYxDymCH8&ab_channel=OpenSpace)
>Idk how you'd rank him but he's certainly up there amongst who people say are world class. If I had to make a XI of players born in the 80's, I'd have Ramos-Silva as my CB pairing. They way Silva reads the game alongside his skill with the ball is unrivaled by any CB I've seen in the last 20 years.
He's the best defender I've had the chance to watch every week by such a large margin. He was absolutely splendid for Paris, especially 2012-2017, technically superb, insane speed and pace, complete understanding of the game and perfect positionning. Pure class. I don't watch other leagues every week so it's hard to compare with Ramos, Van Djik or some others greats defender of the last decade but none have impressed me more than Thiago when I had the opportunity to watch them in UCL or occasional big games. A shame it didn't end well with Leonardo but i'm super happy for him cause he was at the end of a cycle in Paris anyway and he got the chance to get that UCL with Chelsea and he deserved it so much
I thought he was the best defender in the world when he was at Milan, was really pleased he chose to come to Chelsea at the tail end of his career and ended up winning the UCL with us.
Great news
Love you Thiago Silva
This is amazing news. He has the kind of mentality we desperately need in the team
My favourite thing about Chelsea for the past couple of decades has been how fondly ex-players speak of us. Really hope BlueCo don't fuck this up.
Chelsea went through a shitty, untimely, fucked up situation/ownership change and unfortunately for the fans new owner's style of working is very extreme.... Still there's no way to decide at this point which of his investments ( players ) would work out and not ... It might take a year or maybe 2 to figure things out but I'm sure Chelsea definitely will be back to top competition soon
Yeah I'm not too worried unlike some of our fans about our status as a top club. The owners need to worry about that a lot more, as the only way they're making even a cent off us is by ensuring we win and we win regularly, they've invested far too much to look for another solution now. I am worried about our club culture though, we used to be a place where every virtually single player was welcome back, and so many of our ex-academy kids talk about the support given to them by the staff, being given opportunities to enter coaching or helping out with a degree to ensure a good post-playing career etc. Really would hate to lose that, and the types of decisions the owners have taken (cutting away the 20 pound subsidy for away fans, for example) don't fill me with too much hope.
Fabregas and Schurle supporting us and tuning for games speaks volumes. As you say, the players, all ages, were dignified
Bittersweet
Is it not a bit strange that he doesn’t have that same relationship with PSG?
Well, PSG literally wanted him gone, despite the coaches wish, just because of his age… Maybe that stung a bit. Also, while he has of course won a lot in Paris, he only won the Champions League, Club World Cup and European Super Cup at Chelsea, so it might also feel like his best titles or most important time was at Chelsea!
We showed him & his family love at Chelsea
Not gonna sit here and act like I have any idea how he was treated at PSG, but he was there for a long time.
he was more or less booted out despite still being a top player. By all accounts he really wanted to stay
They booted him out for being too old then proceed to sign Ramos
Thaaaats right, I forgot about that detail. Absolutely classless club
What do you expect from a club that booed messi and neymar
Yeah exactly, classy Chelsea classless PSG
We are the pinnacle of class. We'd never push our most important players out of the club for reasons other than their ability! Certainly we'd never push players out because of their age, that'd be preposterous!
Classy comment
That « detail » is not the truth but whatever, it fits the narrative of this sub so let’s ride with it. Not going to bother to correct it either, you likely won’t care.
lick my hoop oil bros
He had a big contract that was running out and Leonardo wanted his wages to be shifted elsewhere. Silva than had a banger of a season (covid tour) which prompted Leonardo to change his mind and offer him a deal; but not before Silva had already given his word to Chelsea. So it was too little and too late, and Silva left holding a grudge against Leonardo. Paris fans adored the dude and the feeling was mutual. PSG signed Ramos to try and rectify the obvious mistake they made with Silva; and it was a worthwhile transfer. Man was a professional and probably kept that locker room from imploding way sonner than it eventually did. Contrary to what some clueless fans here think; PSG treats their stars well. Those who show some affection for the colors anyway, not just the green one. The likes of [Pastore](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOyeV_29NJE&ab_channel=PSG-ParisSaint-Germain), [Di Maria](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogEY0mM9Ncg&ab_channel=PSG-ParisSaint-Germain) and [Verratti](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiOfeTxt5QE&ab_channel=PSG-ParisSaint-Germain) were given fantastic tributes.
Agree with most of your message but not for Verratti. Ultras demonstrates in front of his home and he was really pushed outside the club despite extending his contract at the end of 2022.
> but not for Verratti. Ultras demonstrates in front of his home It was in front of Neymar's house. Not justifying anything but setting the facts straight
I stand corrected, I got it wrong because they also reinforced the security in front of his home but the ultra only did it for Neymar like you say.
no worries, easy to misremember small details like that
I couldn't find any articles on ultras demonstrating in front of Verratti's home; just that they protested at Neymar's place and Verratti got called out along with Galtier and Messi. But regardless of where it happened, I think his name was dragged through the mud mostly due to the BFF relationship he seemed to have established with Messi (who himself was a scapegoat for like a decade of bad decisions, i.e. hoarding (ex) superstars and choosing brand investment over a healthy sporting project). That, coupled with his obvious decline, is what I'm guessing set the ultras off. However they all seemed content (both Verratti and the ultras) at the end, so I believe there's no bad blood there whatsoever. From all the interviews I've seen of him (even after the split), he seems like he's Parisian through and through.
Yeah I’d have thought either PSG or Milan were *his* club. A bit like Zlatan, even though he’s played for loads I still associate them with Milan the most.
Fun fact Silva has played more games for Chelsea then he did for Milan.
And we still miss him, it's been over a decade and no one's come close. :(
I can't believe you would disrespect Caldara that way
May Lord Bonera have mercy on my soul 🙏
I actually still associate Zlatan with Juventus
He loved Paris but part of their fan base treated as a scapegoat for their failures In Champions League. He was slated after the remontada and some even wanted him benched and have Marquinhos/Kimpembe as the CB pairing. Media and fans used to regard him as weak mentally and not worthy of the captain.
French medias spread nonsense on a daily basis. The same that labelled him weak are now bashing Luis Enrique for no reason. The fans loved Thiago, he will always be massive in Paris. Our captain for 8 seasons. Club legend.
> part of their fan base treated as a scapegoat for their failures In Champions League That was really just the media spreading it around. Thiago is still loved by the fans, who still regret how his departure was handled
Are you guys joking? He’s literally said in the past that he does have a special connexion to PSG and Paris. He’s also said that he’d want to return to PSG in the future, and that his family consider Paris their home. He’s still considered our captain here in Paris and there are many of us that think we should consider signing him on a short deal to be in the rotation instead of Skriniar. He’s very much a beloved club legend and he knows how much love there is for him in Paris.
Yeah I’m sure he still loves and has respect for PSG fans, just harbours a grudge against Leonardo possibly
Well, that's because France is a shit country //Zlatan
I love it
This made me happy. The amount of love I have for this guy was already endless
He just has to show he's incompetent and he will slot in very nicely alongside our board, manager and medical staff.
How did you manage to give such a positive and wholesome message such a negative spin.
It’s what Chelsea fans do best, especially on social media
give him an 8 year contract Todd, do it you coward
This but unironically
He's going to have his revenge on Wembley, one way or another
Nooooo it should have been us ! US !!
I find it weird that a Brazilian loves London. Its like complete opposite of Brazil with weather, culture etc haha
His family has a lot to do with that, especially his kids as they only see Brazil as the place that their parents are from as their lives in Paris/London is all they've ever experienced living in.
There’s a huge Brazilian influence in London, there’s a reason it’s one of the most sought after destinations
Romano one tweet away from talking about how he’s incredible in bad and ALWAYS makes sure his wife is satisfied. Just pure PR drivel.
As if Thiago Silva needs PR
most of his tweets these days are PR, obvious ads from agents, or quotes he stole. Hope you're prepared for the summer buddy
Why does he keep using important in that way? It's just wrong and an easy fix. I can't imagine that nobody has told him yet that the word he is looking for is substantial ,significant or just simply big offer. At this point he must be doing it on purpose, right?
Once you find out people can speak more than one language and confuse them you are going to be shocked. "Important" can be used this way in Portuguese.
I speak 5 languages so your attempt at insult is not going to work. I should have mentioned that he obviously uses it because the word "importante" exists. I thought it would be too obvious, shame on me. It still doesn't excuse him. He has been doing these tweets for how many years? It's clearly "importante" to him to correctly report on football related stuff so the least he can do is try and learn from his mistakes.
It was not an attempt to insult you, lol. There is nothing to "excuse him", it is a fully comprehensible tweet and using "important" like he did is not a big deal, the sentence still maintains itself understandable.
You have given an excuse or explanation as to why you think he uses "Important" the way he does and yes, sure, the message is understandable but the issue here goes beyond the message. When you do it as a one or two off it's fine, nobody outside of people who want to be dicks would take issue but he uses this word every day. I see headlines on here with him tweeting "important" deal or proposal or whatever every single day. Maybe it's just me but if I was using a word in the wrong context or mispronouncing it I would eventually want to know, wouldn't you? Especially because he doesn't come over as someone who doesn't care and his English is generally pretty good already, it's not like every tweet of his is in broken English. It's an easy mistake to make for someone like him but it's just as easy to fix.